True. Lots of mental health problems getting worse and confusing that person because they don’t know they have a sickness. Mental sickness is just as same as physical sickness. For physical sickness is easy cause you can see you getting fever etc, but it’s hard to handle mental sickness if you never know you are sick.
Jiwon's ability to concentrate on games is also an ADHD trait. It's called hyperfocus. It's almost like you're posessed and you can't stop doing the thing that you're doing (it's usually with the things that bring you joy - just like the Doctor said, it brings dopamine to the brain). I hope this realization will help him!
I think the big plot twist for viewers is that Heechul was the normal one!😁 How Heechul can't be silent reminds me when his mom said he used to be a chatterbox following her and keep talking to her when he was a kid😅 I hope Jiwon and Jongmin take care of themselves more✌
they did not say he was the normal one. he shows every possible sign he has hyperactivity and severe moodswings. the doctor said he must be intelligent and because of that he could have "tricked"/ lead the outcome of the computertest. so yeah i do think he should also be testing further. jiwon shows autism signs as he is not interested in other peoples business. is it he is depressed because society has expectations he is not seeing the reasons for but also feels pressure (especially in a country like sk where they wamnt everybody to be social and high-achieving) hope they all find the help they need :)
@kaahfnor not being interested in other people can be a sign of burnout, and not necessarily due to autism. Doesn't mean he can't have autism, it's common to have both ADHD and Autism (like me)
Oh Heechul definitely has ADHD. He could be the poster boy, as he ticks all boxes. I don't know what test they did, but you can fool a test if you're smart enough. Which he is. And that's why you should see a psychologist and not just do a test. Also why the doctor is there, so she can observe their behaviours and compare them with the results from the test. However, I do wonder if he could have something else too. He's way too particular about certain things for it to be only ADHD...
The results are very accurate to what they show in the programs when they participate. Jiwon really changes how he behaves a lot depending on who is around him, I feel like he just becomes more relaxed when he's around a member of "New Journey to the West" When he is not with someone from the cast, he uses his experience, but you can see that he uses it more for slapstick humor in these cases.
Not even three minutes in….Heechuls’ Mom is already in embarrassment mode! He is like the hyperactive kid in class - when she said “ no talking “ how did we all not know this was an extreme challenge! Lol But Heechul has a big heart, I love him! 🍒🌟💫✨💙 @5:41 “ Heechul is unique indeed “. That’s why we love him!
This was great content for them and the viewers, especially if you're not familiar with ADHD... The few times ive seen Jongmin i noticed he's pretty gullible, i hope he can work on not being so trusting 😊
I don't really like the fact that they're making ADHD out to be like this terrible thing... I mean, as someone who has it, it does have a share of difficulties, and being borderline is kind of difficult if you don't know that you're borderline. But once you realize that you have ADHD, it's a lot easier to maintain. However, as someone who also has depression, my heart goes out to Jiwon. Cause I totally understand just not being able to understand yourself, but having to act like you do. Having someone like a therapist or a psychologist unveil your feelings, even for a little bit, is stressful but relieving cause it helps you understand.
So true, Koreans still treat mental health as a taboo subject, look at the editing when they talked about ADHD, they were trying to portray it as some mysterious and scary thing.
No mental illness, behavioural or learning difficulty is a good thing. That like saying because you have a disease that won't kill you its a good thing. The west has an issue with overdiagnosing people because there is a culture of wanting to be different or garner sympathy, so almost everyone is anxious or depressed or suffering from some illness or behavioural issue. Even tons of overweight people are claiming to havr thyroid issues to excuse why they can't manage their weight. The reason the west has "normalised" these psychological problems is to excuse behaviours.
No wonder the love I feel for this three is like the love of a parent, Its like I want to take care of them, make them happy, be with them, support them, cheer for them. I want to take this kind of test also, I feel that mine is the mix of them.
Question is: A person isnt born to love themselves. What was cause ? " cause and affect! " Heechul owned it! He didn't get angry about or deny it. Love his honesty. He definitly got alot of attention when he was young. Regardless we can't deny his amazing genuis & complex talent. 💙 He does also have soft heart. Thanks for englush subtitles .
‘Get rid of depression and love yourself’ is a stupid statement. People with depression can’t just ‘get rid’ of their depression even if they want to. Many take medication and seek therapy with professionals and still have depression. Don’t even add on the phrase ‘love yourself’. TV programmes should be careful of what they present to the public.
😅 I have adhd. It's freeing when you figure out how your brain works, and then you can get it to work for you rather than fight against it. It's an advantage for creatives and entrepreneurs. But it's really important to have the proper nutrition and get the sleep you need! If you treated a Porsche the way you treat a Hyundai accent you're going to have problems, same with your brain - it's going to take more maintenance and care than a neurotypical, but worth it as long as you care for it properly! 😉
Often depression can be a comorbidity of ADHD because we're criticized a lot and people seem to not see the effort we put in, and we assume life is this difficult for everyone but we just aren't good enough to handle it as well. ❤ To any ADHDers who need to hear it, you're not lazy or careless. In fact, ADHD can be your superpower when you work with your 🧠 😉🦸🏻♀️
I'm not sure I have ADHD, but I have some of the symptoms, especially for sleeping. I need to tire myself out to sleep properly, and it's quite hard on daily basis as my line of work is not very active. How do you manage your sleep?
How do one take care of it ? The last time i went to see a doctor abt AdHd which i thought i have ,he just gave me pills without actually testing me,so i never took them and went to another doctor ,but i really wannna know if i have and anything i can do abt it ?
I hope they all get therapy, and if the government allows, appropriate medication. They should also be tested for Autism as it often goes hand-in-hand with ADHD. At the end of the day, it’s not a bad thing to know how your brain works. But it is a very bad thing to do nothing about it. Undiagnosed or untreated people with ADHD and Autism have a much shorter lifespan due to the depression and impulsivity that goes along with not understanding yourself and other people not understanding you. I’m really hope these guys take it seriously and get proper treatment. ❤
It might be me, but Heechul looks concerned for Jiwon when the depression topic came up. He had to bury a couple of friends because of it, and I'm sure he's gotten more aware of the dangers of minimizing/ignoring it.
Basically what i understand here, despite Heechul is hyper based on the observation behavior, he able to make the test show that he normal due to his intelligence, while he in fact do have ADHD right ?
The first half was funny to watch but the second half... I feel like I shouldn't have heard that. That's personal matter. They are all together, with commentators and... With us. It's kinda nor right:(
I get what you mean, but at the same time I think it's important for the audience especially in Korea. The results might encourage more people to seek testing and help if they found it relatable.
I'd love to try this kind of test to know myself better. To know myself will allowed me to love myself better and help me to improve myself to become a better person within my ability.
Eun Jiwooonnn 😔 please take care of yourself. I hope there will be a NJTTW soon. Kim Jong Min, fighting! Hang in there. You are doing great! Hee Chul, 😂 too funny
it's great that they got tested, but i want to emphasize what other comments say that having ADHD isn't a bad thing. they edit it as if it's a disease or something, but it's just a test to determine how your brain works differently. and once you understand yourself better, you can start learning what makes you happy based on your differences.
14:30 ADHD and intelligence aren't linked though. Makes me wonder and doubt what test this is... You can have ADHD and do well on tests. Or be masking well
I think the results were different if not Hechul only, but everyone started a drawing. So It had to have 3 sheets, not only one. Besides, Jongmin is not good at all at drawing, this is why he added bodyes only. I don't think the testes they took are accurate.
They have to have other measures for diagnosis in korea 😮 😂 than the rest of the world. 😯🤷♀️ Heechul definitely has the typical traits for male ADHD and other emotional disorders. And to say that Heechul doesn’t have it because he is intelligent is just laughable. I mean there are studies on ADHD done all over the world, some of the commen traits are intelligence and genius creativity.
Who even are you to judge the ACTUAL PSYCHIATRIST? Are you just searching that up on Google and basing your opinion on researches or are you a Psychiatrist as well? If not, shut up. You are not a doctor to say what you have to say.
the doctor said it could be that he lead the test like he wanted because of his intelligence. she said he shows signs and that he has severe moodswings. that was the truth she never said he does not have it.
Doctors can get diagnoses wrong lol. Besides you would have to do more repeated testing over a period of time to get a proper diagnosis. Several mood disorders can take at least 6 months of repeated sessions before the psychiatrist/psychologist feels confident enough to diagnose since a lot of disorders have overlap. All of these episodes where they see these specialists should not be taken as the be all end all of medical history for the people involved
Professional mental health professio al need to improve their language when referring to brain disorders. The words normal or compraring people like this is terrible
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I"m so glad that Jiwon can finally begin to understand why he's feeling the way he's and can now take proper measures to manage the symptoms.
You can see how Heechul looks so worried when he hears about Jiwon’s depression. Too much trauma from previous situations
heechul lost too many close friends to depression. i think that is also why
@@vforvann who else that falls from it?
@@vonn2221goo hara kara, suli fx, jonghyun shinee
Having ADHD is not bad. Living with ADHD without the diagnosis is bad.
Agree
Omg well said. cuz u just think something is wrong with u if you arent aware that your brain just works differently
Agreed
True. Lots of mental health problems getting worse and confusing that person because they don’t know they have a sickness. Mental sickness is just as same as physical sickness. For physical sickness is easy cause you can see you getting fever etc, but it’s hard to handle mental sickness if you never know you are sick.
Jiwon's ability to concentrate on games is also an ADHD trait. It's called hyperfocus. It's almost like you're posessed and you can't stop doing the thing that you're doing (it's usually with the things that bring you joy - just like the Doctor said, it brings dopamine to the brain). I hope this realization will help him!
I think the big plot twist for viewers is that Heechul was the normal one!😁 How Heechul can't be silent reminds me when his mom said he used to be a chatterbox following her and keep talking to her when he was a kid😅
I hope Jiwon and Jongmin take care of themselves more✌
heechul actually the most normal one in suju 😂
they did not say he was the normal one. he shows every possible sign he has hyperactivity and severe moodswings. the doctor said he must be intelligent and because of that he could have "tricked"/ lead the outcome of the computertest. so yeah i do think he should also be testing further. jiwon shows autism signs as he is not interested in other peoples business. is it he is depressed because society has expectations he is not seeing the reasons for but also feels pressure (especially in a country like sk where they wamnt everybody to be social and high-achieving) hope they all find the help they need :)
@@kaahfeenot interested other people business is good thing it’s not autism
@kaahfnor not being interested in other people can be a sign of burnout, and not necessarily due to autism. Doesn't mean he can't have autism, it's common to have both ADHD and Autism (like me)
Oh Heechul definitely has ADHD. He could be the poster boy, as he ticks all boxes. I don't know what test they did, but you can fool a test if you're smart enough. Which he is. And that's why you should see a psychologist and not just do a test. Also why the doctor is there, so she can observe their behaviours and compare them with the results from the test. However, I do wonder if he could have something else too. He's way too particular about certain things for it to be only ADHD...
The results are very accurate to what they show in the programs when they participate.
Jiwon really changes how he behaves a lot depending on who is around him, I feel like he just becomes more relaxed when he's around a member of "New Journey to the West"
When he is not with someone from the cast, he uses his experience, but you can see that he uses it more for slapstick humor in these cases.
Agree
Not even three minutes in….Heechuls’ Mom is already in embarrassment mode! He is like the hyperactive kid in class - when she said “ no talking “ how did we all not know this was an extreme challenge! Lol But Heechul has a big heart, I love him! 🍒🌟💫✨💙 @5:41 “ Heechul is unique indeed “. That’s why we love him!
Heechul is such a considerate person. You can just tell by the way he saves guests during awkward moments in every show he is in ❤
This was great content for them and the viewers, especially if you're not familiar with ADHD... The few times ive seen Jongmin i noticed he's pretty gullible, i hope he can work on not being so trusting 😊
I don't really like the fact that they're making ADHD out to be like this terrible thing... I mean, as someone who has it, it does have a share of difficulties, and being borderline is kind of difficult if you don't know that you're borderline. But once you realize that you have ADHD, it's a lot easier to maintain.
However, as someone who also has depression, my heart goes out to Jiwon. Cause I totally understand just not being able to understand yourself, but having to act like you do. Having someone like a therapist or a psychologist unveil your feelings, even for a little bit, is stressful but relieving cause it helps you understand.
So true, Koreans still treat mental health as a taboo subject, look at the editing when they talked about ADHD, they were trying to portray it as some mysterious and scary thing.
Agreed. It was morbidly comical@@tanushreesingh1999
No mental illness, behavioural or learning difficulty is a good thing. That like saying because you have a disease that won't kill you its a good thing.
The west has an issue with overdiagnosing people because there is a culture of wanting to be different or garner sympathy, so almost everyone is anxious or depressed or suffering from some illness or behavioural issue. Even tons of overweight people are claiming to havr thyroid issues to excuse why they can't manage their weight.
The reason the west has "normalised" these psychological problems is to excuse behaviours.
Jongmin and Eun Jiwon, fighting oppas👊. Been following them since 2D1N.
No wonder the love I feel for this three is like the love of a parent, Its like I want to take care of them, make them happy, be with them, support them, cheer for them. I want to take this kind of test also, I feel that mine is the mix of them.
The old boy cast does this type of test all the time yet not a single one of them ever changes 😂😂😂
Question is: A person isnt born to love themselves. What was cause ? " cause and affect! " Heechul owned it! He didn't get angry about or deny it. Love his honesty. He definitly got alot of attention when he was young.
Regardless we can't deny his amazing genuis & complex talent. 💙 He does also have soft heart.
Thanks for englush subtitles .
‘Get rid of depression and love yourself’ is a stupid statement. People with depression can’t just ‘get rid’ of their depression even if they want to. Many take medication and seek therapy with professionals and still have depression. Don’t even add on the phrase ‘love yourself’. TV programmes should be careful of what they present to the public.
😅 I have adhd. It's freeing when you figure out how your brain works, and then you can get it to work for you rather than fight against it. It's an advantage for creatives and entrepreneurs. But it's really important to have the proper nutrition and get the sleep you need! If you treated a Porsche the way you treat a Hyundai accent you're going to have problems, same with your brain - it's going to take more maintenance and care than a neurotypical, but worth it as long as you care for it properly! 😉
Often depression can be a comorbidity of ADHD because we're criticized a lot and people seem to not see the effort we put in, and we assume life is this difficult for everyone but we just aren't good enough to handle it as well. ❤ To any ADHDers who need to hear it, you're not lazy or careless. In fact, ADHD can be your superpower when you work with your 🧠 😉🦸🏻♀️
I'm not sure I have ADHD, but I have some of the symptoms, especially for sleeping. I need to tire myself out to sleep properly, and it's quite hard on daily basis as my line of work is not very active. How do you manage your sleep?
How do one take care of it ? The last time i went to see a doctor abt AdHd which i thought i have ,he just gave me pills without actually testing me,so i never took them and went to another doctor ,but i really wannna know if i have and anything i can do abt it ?
I hope they all get therapy, and if the government allows, appropriate medication. They should also be tested for Autism as it often goes hand-in-hand with ADHD. At the end of the day, it’s not a bad thing to know how your brain works. But it is a very bad thing to do nothing about it. Undiagnosed or untreated people with ADHD and Autism have a much shorter lifespan due to the depression and impulsivity that goes along with not understanding yourself and other people not understanding you. I’m really hope these guys take it seriously and get proper treatment. ❤
Learning about yourself is one step to recover
It might be me, but Heechul looks concerned for Jiwon when the depression topic came up. He had to bury a couple of friends because of it, and I'm sure he's gotten more aware of the dangers of minimizing/ignoring it.
Jiwon nim..be happy and healthy..we love you ❤❤❤
Yes.🌹
Jongmin always is full of compashion, always conforting❤❤❤
This reminds me of 2d1n drawing of Jongmin that said his drawing is similiar to a child. Jongmin fighting ❤
As a person who just got diagnosed of ADHD a month ago, I feel so related. Watching this video makes me feel less lonely.
Jongmin&Jiwon together is dynamite!😃😃😃💖🍀
jiwon ADHDresults reminds me of the EP when he visited shaman , shaman literally teared up while feeling his sadness.
4 de junio 2024 ELF 🥰 siempre te Amara tal y como eres Estrella Internacional ⭐ KIM HEECHUL ⭐ Fighting 💪😎💙🇲🇽
Heechul saking pintarnya sampai bisa mengontrol emosi dan spontanitasnya. Keren
Jiwon, wish you be healthier and more happy
Kim Jongmin ❤❤❤❤
Hechul is smart! But EJW&KJM are genius, everybody knows!😃😃😃!💛💙💖👌😍
Haha...heechul broke the rule..ㅋㅋㅋ😅😅😅😅
I love heechul so much
Basically what i understand here, despite Heechul is hyper based on the observation behavior, he able to make the test show that he normal due to his intelligence, while he in fact do have ADHD right ?
eun jiwon 😭😭💛
The first half was funny to watch but the second half... I feel like I shouldn't have heard that. That's personal matter. They are all together, with commentators and... With us. It's kinda nor right:(
私もそう思います
I get what you mean, but at the same time I think it's important for the audience especially in Korea. The results might encourage more people to seek testing and help if they found it relatable.
@@iampetz Looking at this in that way... Yeah, that's meaningful and educational 😊
I'd love to try this kind of test to know myself better. To know myself will allowed me to love myself better and help me to improve myself to become a better person within my ability.
Hes drawing so good tho
Eun Jiwooonnn 😔 please take care of yourself. I hope there will be a NJTTW soon.
Kim Jong Min, fighting! Hang in there. You are doing great!
Hee Chul, 😂 too funny
I’m a people pleaser like Jongmin and also have no interest in others. Sigh.
I have the absolute same exact symptoms as junmi but get really mad too as heechul
Aside the art. I’m wondering if other test were done prior
it's great that they got tested, but i want to emphasize what other comments say that having ADHD isn't a bad thing. they edit it as if it's a disease or something, but it's just a test to determine how your brain works differently. and once you understand yourself better, you can start learning what makes you happy based on your differences.
Trio caos ❤❤❤❤❤😊
Ji wonm ighf be laughing but he knew deep down is very sad
Kim Jongmin "peks&abs"😂😂😂
Kim Jong Min 🎉Congratulations.. good news really getting married soon 2024.09.30 can't waitt
Fact?!
What?!?
Have rumors in 2day & 1Night ep.223 Jong Min say I have a girlfriend
I'm still waiting kyeong hwan and han jimin episode/scene
What's happened to them ...
same i'm waiting kyeong hwan and han jimin
@tiasmukti5860 I'm wondering, until now, what's happened to them..
I hope they're will be married this year😊
Something hapened with KJM teeth: other shape up and down. I think that when editing in HD.
Honestly I feel so sorry for asian society it seems like they’re really unhappy ppl majority of their lives
Очень интересно!
희철이 그림 넘 잘 그리네. 재능있을같애
Can anyone tell me where can I learn to become a doctor in this video? Thanks so much
I just knew i had adhd after watching this...
where kyeong hwan and han jimin i want to knows about their dating what happend with them
It’s been a while since I watched MLOB. Did Jiwon join the team?
I'm like half jongmin half eun jiwon, do i have adhd?
❤
14:30 ADHD and intelligence aren't linked though. Makes me wonder and doubt what test this is... You can have ADHD and do well on tests. Or be masking well
That's the poin she make, imho. But in a polite way.
@@wangiserunioh interesting, maybe I will rewatch and look into this test further
I think the results were different if not Hechul only, but everyone started a drawing. So It had to have 3 sheets, not only one. Besides, Jongmin is not good at all at drawing, this is why he added bodyes only. I don't think the testes they took are accurate.
Where I should go if I want to take this kind of test?
Search up adhd test near me
Going to a psychiatrist would help :)
i seriously think that jiwon is like me. i dont think what everyone do or anything.
김희철 is the best !!! 😍😍🩷🩷🩷🩷
Watched again: they edited...J9ngmin teeth! Upper and down teeth are edited. I wonder why. His low denture is a bit imperfect but so what?!
He got veneers
Great learning experience for s as viewers.
They have to have other measures for diagnosis in korea 😮 😂 than the rest of the world. 😯🤷♀️ Heechul definitely has the typical traits for male ADHD and other emotional disorders. And to say that Heechul doesn’t have it because he is intelligent is just laughable. I mean there are studies on ADHD done all over the world, some of the commen traits are intelligence and genius creativity.
So, are you saying that everyone can have an ADHD just because he/she is intelligent or creative on his/her work perfectly? No, right?
Who even are you to judge the ACTUAL PSYCHIATRIST? Are you just searching that up on Google and basing your opinion on researches or are you a Psychiatrist as well? If not, shut up. You are not a doctor to say what you have to say.
the doctor said it could be that he lead the test like he wanted because of his intelligence. she said he shows signs and that he has severe moodswings. that was the truth she never said he does not have it.
I mean she's a doctor and your not so ill go with her opinion
Doctors can get diagnoses wrong lol. Besides you would have to do more repeated testing over a period of time to get a proper diagnosis. Several mood disorders can take at least 6 months of repeated sessions before the psychiatrist/psychologist feels confident enough to diagnose since a lot of disorders have overlap. All of these episodes where they see these specialists should not be taken as the be all end all of medical history for the people involved
ADHD!😂😂😂
Professional mental health professio al need to improve their language when referring to brain disorders. The words normal or compraring people like this is terrible
Heechul zodiac sign is cancer; very moody.
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