I hate the modern, "contemporary" worship that has taken over the Lutheran churches in the US. We traded hymns and liturgy for drums and electric guitars. Disgusting. This video is beautiful to see.
@VDMA LCMS.... And I found a "good" one (after suffering through one that was all about the harmful church-growth movement, and several that felt like 2 or 3 different congregations, based on whether you attended the liturgical vs contemporary service). Btw, if you are interested in LCMS stuff on YT, my pastor is Bryan Wolfmueller and he is AWESOME.
Uppsala Cathedral is the heart of the Lutheran Church in Sweden where students of theology studied for centuries. Lutherans have no fear of Catholicism when they hold to their "catholic traditions" in the spirit of reform. Luther would be proud to worship here.
@Altar and Incense condoning of immoral LQBTXYZ blessings marriages while maintaining a deceiving appearance of high church Lutheranism...so 😥sad. Even the RC CHURCH..seems to be adapt to the false version of the Lutheran faith.
Wonder what Martin Luther would say about the Swedes having the Pope in their Reformation service? Many feel Pope’s ecumenical efforts, like kissing the Quran and bowing to an Imam , are laying the foundation for the one world religion of end times. Muhammad’s allah is NOT the God of the Bible, he is the ancient moon god idol. Beware and do not be deceived by apostasy in the church predicted in Holy Scripture. Signed - Augsburg Confessional Lutheran
@@finneganohooligan9026Luther considered himself to be a papist while writing the 95 Theses. Featuring him doesn’t mean exalting him to the level he is in the Roman church.
From the Augsburg Confession - Book of Concord - 1580, which contain the ten statements of faith that Lutherans use as official explanations and summaries of what they believe, teach, and confess. It is the standard of what Lutheranism is. Article XXIV: Of the Mass. 1] Falsely are our churches accused of abolishing the Mass; for the Mass is retained among 2] us, and celebrated with the highest reverence.
I'm really surprised; I don't know about Lutheran Church, too much. But I've found out, a bit, and I've realized that Orthodox, Roman Catholic, Anglican, Presbiterian and Lutheran Churches have a lot of symbols, religious clothes, choirs, traditions, architecture of the temples, lithurgy,, etc. in common. I hope these Christian Churches will work together, soon. I am sure they could do an excellent job around the world!
@Skrailing it’s truly sad what happened afterwards. So many splits after that. Even the Catholic Church changed from its original way of celebrating mass.
Anglican in europe are in full communion with lutheran churches, and lutheran, presbyterian, methodist, hussites, waldensian are in full communion to each others in europe as well
Tbh I don’t think Presbyterian worship is very liturgical, it is structured with a liturgy but it’s more barebones in terms of symbolism. The Reformed tradition uses the regulative principle in which anything not commanded in Scripture is rejected. Whereas Lutherans believe in adiaphora, which means that anything that isn’t explicitly forbidden is allowed
@@brendonpremkumar8207 Ive noticed that too, it seems mainline denominations are usually more liturgical than their conservative counterparts, especially TEC vs ACNA and UMC vs Wesleyan/FMC/Nazarene. My local PCUSA church is this huge building, looks almost like a cathedral (ofc they dont have bishops so not actually lol) Lutheranism seems tricky though, there are some very liturgical ELCA churches near me but most aren’t, hell with the one in my town the pastor doesn’t even wear vestments for their contemporary service! Online Ive seen many Evangelical Catholic LCMS pastors but around me they’re also just as low church Wish Lutheranism in America wasn’t so pietistic overall, Europe seems to care more about retaining the Mass like the Augsburg Confession actually says :(
This is a beautiful church, beautiful organ, and glorious acoustics. I loved the procession with the thurifer, crucifer, torchbearers and banner bearers. This very much reminds me of a high-church Anglican Vespers as well. Thanks for posting this video!
I love the variation in registry on the organ being played in such glorious acoustics. I also like the procession with smoke, cross and numerous torches, followed by a banner of the Mother of God: so stately and dignified. Very beautiful and thank you for posting this video.
I wish Lutheran churches in America were like this. Love the robes, incense, cross, and even the banner with Mother Mary. But usually American churches are rather plain, with the pastor wearing only a stole, and a simple altar with a plain cross and a few candles. But I am also very saddened with the progressive direction that Lutherans in Europe are taking. I pray that the Word of God is taken more seriously and that a revival happens. 🙏
(Lutheranism) Is a knock_off" of Catholicism! Their Wannabes" everyone knows this. Even if you know an ounce of official' Church history. They can claim as many others have, to be Catholic' but they are Not! Not even close...
@@christianorthodoxy4769 Very big of you calling others historically illiterate when you don't seem to take the creation of the Lutheran church into consideration at all. There's no "wannabeism", it came into fruition for a reason.
@@_loss_ it's Satanic/Demonic' Rebellion" at the very Core. You obviously aren't to well familiar with that arch_heretic Martian Lucifer, are you... The garbage he said & taught and to this day the Lutheran's attempt to hide lot's of his stuff that they edit it to hopefully sterilize it and clean it up to make a little bit more palatable for people just as yourself to swallow. 🔥🙁☹️😕❤️🔥💔 You really need to study and go deep inside the whole issue before making yourself look foolish, Almighty' God save you from your delusion and deception. Lord have mercy'
It is the biggest cathedral in Scandinavia and truly magnificient...the Church of Sweden as a body is much more high church than the American lutheran churches, and this is especially high church.
The closer Lutherans lived near Roman Catholics and suffered the 30 Years [religious] War in central Europe and that killed 1/3 of the population of Germany, the more they distanced themselves from their catholic heritage--though much still remains. In Scandinavia, Lutherans did not have this experience and so retained more of it. They did not borrow these elements from Anglicans. It is part and parcel Lutheran. All Lutherans deleted certain elements in the mass that they found unscriptural, put it the differing languages of people, stressed preaching and introduced hymn singing. More and more, the 70 million Lutherans around the world are gradually re-appropriating their catholic heritage--some more, others less. But unlike Protestants it has always been there to some degree.
The Liturgy is also, very similar. I was surprised when I attended with a school friend of mine about how similar the Sunday service Smal Catechism is.
@thedoctorplusone It is no 512 (Hymn book of the Swedish Church) Det ringer till vila (evening hymn). Lyrics: Archbishop J.O. Wallin (who has written many hymns, this was written in Järvsö and is also known by that name) 1838 and music: I. Widén 1916.
I love the church in my country ( Indonesia ) we don't have a very very beautifull Protestant church or a high protestant church, beacuse Indonesian Churches get influent from the Calvinist and the Charismatic
I’d feel much more at home if the Lutheran church in America would readopt this liturgy and church design. We’ve allowed the reformed to influence us too greatly. We don’t really do the liturgy of the hours here at all and Americanism runs deep in our veins.
I agree 100%. I'm so sick of American Lutheran churches that seem more like Methodist or Presbyterian churches. What's worse, Lutheran churches with so called "contemporary worship". You have to look really hard to find a high church Lutheran liturgy.
I agree. The Lutheran church here seems so fragmented and each congregations seems to "do their own thing" ... to me this further divides a church when a congregation makes their own rules. I say get it together for the good of all. And, there are so many different sects of the Lutheran church. The Catholics have got it organized well.
As a Catholic i am impressed on how you still preserve your Catholic Heritage amd uses traditional hynms sad that the Modern world had dystroyed our ancient tradition 😊
@mrstjs Well this was a special occasion, but the Cathedral of Uppsala is magnificent. Maybe you should talk with your pastor so that the parish could adopt a more High church liturgy
Incense has not been commonly used except among the high Church like here. But on the tv broadcasted Easter night liturgy from the Cathedral of Linköping with Bishop Modéus they actually used incense. Was surprising.
yes.... before 1527, all these beautiful and big churches were Catholic, but KIng Gustav of Sweden forced these churches and all Swedes to convert to Lutheranism, but this church was originally built by Catholics for Catholic Masses.... the same thing happened in Norway, Denmark, Iceland, England, Holland, Findland and Scotland.... Protestants turned Catholic churches and Cathedrals into Protestant churches!
+Multi0703 Possession is 9/10ths of the law; all happening after pagans invaded the first Christian church, blended God's teachings with heathenism and created Roman Catholicism. The Lutherans broke ranks with her in 1517. You say 1527 but everyone knows it was on 31st October, 1517 that Dr. Martin Luther, a young devout monk, publicized his list of 95 theses inquiring among other things on the sale of indulgences, actually selling the way to heaven.
@Sidney Dorsett So why Luther kept according to his will many of the things that Protestant fanatics like you seems to hate or ignore other Protestants do, such as the Mass, the veneration for the Virgin Mary, churches, cathedrals, celebration of Christian holidays, statues, paints, icons, stained glassed, the calendar of the saints, the celebration of the saints, a hierarchy and all the Catholic thinking medieval literature, from Saint Thomas Aquinas to Saint Augustine of Algeria? - It is clear to me that his struggle was more about getting power than to "purify" the Church. - Erasmus was able to reform the Church and died as a Catholic, so did Saint Francis of Assisi. Stop lying, please!
I could be Lutheran if they were align with the Bible in certain popular issues but I will stick on being a Roman Catholic for now. Anyways we are all Christians anyway. Lets just love our neighbours. I did not convert from islam to spread hatred among Christian brothers
Yes, we Christians are a big family with differences but we're still Christians. I attend Latin mass all the time and Lutheran high church is reminiscent to me of Catholic High Mass.
You are on the right track, you were wise to listen to God and convert from Islam to Christianity, but don't be afraid to learn about other Christian churches besides the Catholic Church, I was a Catholic, then I was a Baptist, and now I'm a Pentecostal, here is the main thing I found a lot of Churches are missing, the baptism needs to be according to the scripture, under water and in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ according to Acts 2:38
Luther changed the Church only to that which the Bible commands. Lutheranism is really just the name for the Apostolic Faith of the Church Fathers. If you want what is Biblical, go to a Confessional Lutheran Church.
Madame Poovie No, you are mistaken. You have no ownership rights to that which the Lord commanded. Martin Luther condemned all protestant denominations, and never renounced his Catholic Faith. Lutherans aren't really Protestant in the first place. We are still waiting for Rome to correct its heresies so that we may come back into communion together. God bless you, friend.
Very unusual for a Reformed guy to see this service and procession at first. Very interesting how two denominations, founded at about the same time and very close to each other territorially, differ. It really reminds me more catholicism than Reformation time offshoots of Christianity
That's because the Lutheran Church, unlike the Reformed Church, never meant to be Protestant. Although Luther was credited for the Reformation, he saw his movement as a reforming movement within the Catholic Church rather than Protestant. So Lutherans are really closer to Roman Catholics than to Reformed.
@@brendonpremkumar8207 agreed, I think ultimately it came from two very different perspectives of the Reformation. While both the Lutherans and the Reformed agreed on taking issue with the Catholic church of their day, the latter felt that reformation necessitated completely rebuilding the Church from the ground up, whereas the former merely sought to reform it while maintaining as much of its preexisting structure as possible This is mostly seen with the Reformed regulative principle vs the Lutheran normative principle. Essentially, Calvin believed that anything which was not explicitly commanded in Scripture should be forbidden in terms of doctrine and worship. Meanwhile, Luther believed that anything which is explicitly forbidden in Scripture should be thrown out, but anything else is fair game. So anything of the Christian faith which is neither commanded nor forbidden (adiaphora) is permitted to exist, and often is preferable for it to in order to maintain continuity with the Early Church and its patrimony
@@DeFyYingin simpler terms Luther just found it difficult to completely get rid of any Catholic influence as it would be expected, and other reformers and Protestants over time sought to eliminate any trace of Catholicism in them and had no problems with that. This service however seems to be very “Catholic” oriented however even for Lutheran standards, you probably wouldn’t see Luther’s service like this ideally
@karpov89 Thanks for the clarification and thank you for taking the time to make this video. I wish more Lutheran Churches in the States embraced their Catholic heritage/past. In fact, in recent times, I've seen more Lutheran Churches here trying to distant themselves from it. One Lutheran Church near my home remains Lutheran but took the name off of the front.
@jojanv They might be singing the liturgy in Latin if it were Catholic, but this is a hymn, thus it is in the native language. However, this isn't a Catholic service anyway, though it's not far off.
@karpov89 Thanks for the clarification. I really loved watching your video. I wish more Lutheran Churches in the States embraced their Catholic heritage/past. In fact, in recent times, I've seen more Lutheran Churches here trying to distant themselves from it. One Lutheran Church near my home remains Lutheran but took the name off of the front.
@speaks3703 Well there may be parts in Latin, and even Greek in the liturgy eventhough it is not Catholic, like in "Julnattsmässa i Mariakyrkan 2 - Christmas night mass in the Church of St. Mary 2"
Very beautiful song ! This is Lutheran Church right ? But the liturgy is very catholic ! The church is quiet packed though.. But only less than 4% swedish attend weekly mass right ?
+abcdefgh1688 Of course the liturgy is Catholic, Catholicism is the form of worship that is closest to God in scripture, works, sacrament, and prayer. Catholics do not leave out parts of scripture that other sects seem to ignore, nor books of the bible, for that matter. Catholicism is complete surrender and devotion.
@Masaru Kodama "is a movement which began in 20th-century Europe that emphasizes worship practices and doctrines that are similar to those found within both Roman Catholicism and the Anglo-Catholic wing of Anglicanism" "The mentioned countries, once a part of the Swedish Empire, have more markedly preserved Catholic traditions. "
@Masaru Kodama This is the reason that i wrote "a union between lutehran and catholic traditions" but as many protestants, especially swedish, I think they're more close to catholicism with this liturgy and tradition, even if the protestant theology. They're like a "via media"
@@LuigiFilipeBonvenuto They are in full communion with Church of England as well, the priests and bishops in this video are from "Swedish Church Union", regarding to this association, they had a tight relationship with Anglo-Catholicism in history, and affected by the oxford movement, very interesting.
Very late reply lol, but the Calvinists were iconoclasts and believed in the regulative principle. Essentially anything that wasn't explicitly in the Bible was strictly forbidden. Whereas the Lutherans wanted to preserve many parts of the ancient church tradition, as long as it wasn't explicitly forbidden by Scripture. If it wasn't mentioned, then it could still be optionally practiced.
Nice video, but not sure it was good to be filming from the pews so close to other worshipers. I for one would not appreciate a camera stuck in my face. But, that's just me.
@tmaclure3 This is not the mass but a vesper but what you say is correct. However if the service is called anything else than the mass - you can say it is abolished. The word 'mass' is still used in the Scandinavian countries.
The problem though is Church of Sweden (as a whole body), ECLA and also the Episcopals I Think Believe that the priest in the sacrifice of the mass re-presents Jesus Christ as High priest like Melchizedek, meaning that the Apostolic succession is necessary for a valid eucharist, also that there are 7 sacraments.
Old High Church Anglicans had a Eucharistic theology more similar to the Reformed school, emphasising a spiritual real presence rather than corporal, but they also reserved more 'Catholic' understandings than Lutherans in Eucharistic Sacrifice and Apostolic ministry, also certain aspects regarding to the Saints and dead faithful (we may find some indirect invocational prayers to the saints in 17th c Laudians). The Anglo-catholics after the Oxford Movement are in all aspacts more in line with the Roman Chuch, some anglo-papalists even see the pope as their spiritual leader, embracing the infalibility.
Saint John Quincy I'm swedish, and I agree with you. But many of us still oppose women priests. I live in a parish where all priests are conservative "high church". It's growing with converts from Islam and a revival with many young people. The sermons are allways excellent with references to the Church fathers and the holy scripture. The congregation is like a big family. But of course, the liberals have destroyed much. Everything they touch dies, as one priest told me.
kingjayapala It's wrong with women as priests, both according to the holy Scripture and tradition. Luther also explicitly opposed women as priests. But women can serve as deaconesses, make important decisions in the parish council, run the economy and a lot of other things.
Stig Bylind that's good that you have high church liturgy and are growing with new converts from Islam. But I still see nothing wrong with female pastors in the 21st century. And I'm a very religious Lutheran in the US who actively shares the Good News with every person I can. But I'll admit that I'm quite liberal in most of my views.
kingjayapala Yes, we live in the 21th century, but what's that supposed to mean? 100 years ago people lived in the 20th century. Every period of time has been "modern" for the people of that time. That's not an argument for women priests. Actually, it's not an argument at all. Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, and today and forever. The New Testament priest (=presbyter) is "father of the house" for God's people, one of those "whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of meat in due season". Everyone familiar with jewish celebration of Passover can see the same structure (and of course in the last supper when Jesus "took bread, gave thanks, brake and gave". The priests serves "in the person of Christ". There were priestesses in several pagan religions, and demands were apparently made in apostolic time that women should preach and lead the congregation. However that was rejected by the apostles. St. Paul didn't refer to something that can change with time, but to "commandments of the Lord". Because the church is generally attributed with feminine terms "holy mother church", "the bride of Christ", I think true balance is achieved with an all-male priesthood. That was God's all-wise counsel from the beginning.
I hate the modern, "contemporary" worship that has taken over the Lutheran churches in the US. We traded hymns and liturgy for drums and electric guitars. Disgusting. This video is beautiful to see.
But God loves bended knee and adoration no matter what the genre. I like traditional liturgy but contemporary wouldn't stop me from worship
Most churches here in the US lack reverence. I hope one day reverence is restored to us.
@VDMA LCMS.... And I found a "good" one (after suffering through one that was all about the harmful church-growth movement, and several that felt like 2 or 3 different congregations, based on whether you attended the liturgical vs contemporary service). Btw, if you are interested in LCMS stuff on YT, my pastor is Bryan Wolfmueller and he is AWESOME.
@boy raph Sure, what is it?
@@shellieperreault6262........... he never answerd since........ Is he passed or is he alive........... Nobody knows......
Uppsala Cathedral is the heart of the Lutheran Church in Sweden where students of theology studied for centuries. Lutherans have no fear of Catholicism when they hold to their "catholic traditions" in the spirit of reform. Luther would be proud to worship here.
@Altar and Incense condoning of immoral LQBTXYZ blessings marriages while maintaining a deceiving appearance of high church Lutheranism...so 😥sad. Even the RC CHURCH..seems to be adapt to the false version of the Lutheran faith.
Sorry man, no protestants for XVI centuries, repent and become Catholic
I think Luthier would turn over in his grave with women clergy and a union with the reformed the Church of Sweden has sold out
My cousin, Bishop JA Eklund was bishop of the Svenska Kyrkan and served this cathedral. He is buried there.
I love this hymn. It's written for when the bells calls for prayer at sunday first vesper. Pray for the Church of Sweden, she needs that.
Amen to that.
Wonder what Martin Luther would say about the Swedes having the Pope in their Reformation service? Many feel Pope’s ecumenical efforts, like kissing the Quran and bowing to an Imam , are laying the foundation for the one world religion of end times. Muhammad’s allah is NOT the God of the Bible, he is the ancient moon god idol.
Beware and do not be deceived by apostasy in the church predicted in Holy Scripture.
Signed - Augsburg Confessional Lutheran
@@finneganohooligan9026 é o fim da linha está chegando as igrejas estão ficando vazias, a cobra vai fumar
@@finneganohooligan9026Jesus Christ, you are delusional
@@finneganohooligan9026Luther considered himself to be a papist while writing the 95 Theses. Featuring him doesn’t mean exalting him to the level he is in the Roman church.
I wish my Lutheran service was more like this.
Me too, brother
Me too
Why isn't it?
never knew they had incense in the Lutheran church... Learn something new every day!
From the Augsburg Confession - Book of Concord - 1580, which contain the ten statements of faith that Lutherans use as official explanations and summaries of what they believe, teach, and confess. It is the standard of what Lutheranism is.
Article XXIV: Of the Mass.
1] Falsely are our churches accused of abolishing the Mass; for the Mass is retained among 2] us, and celebrated with the highest reverence.
AND you actually believe that statement!" Lol 😢 😂 😅 how delusional, and extremely" deluded you are. 🤣🤣
I'm really surprised; I don't know about Lutheran Church, too much. But I've found out, a bit, and I've realized that Orthodox, Roman Catholic, Anglican, Presbiterian and Lutheran Churches have a lot of symbols, religious clothes, choirs, traditions, architecture of the temples, lithurgy,, etc. in common. I hope these Christian Churches will work together, soon. I am sure they could do an excellent job around the world!
@Skrailing it’s truly sad what happened afterwards. So many splits after that. Even the Catholic Church changed from its original way of celebrating mass.
Anglican in europe are in full communion with lutheran churches, and lutheran, presbyterian, methodist, hussites, waldensian are in full communion to each others in europe as well
Tbh I don’t think Presbyterian worship is very liturgical, it is structured with a liturgy but it’s more barebones in terms of symbolism. The Reformed tradition uses the regulative principle in which anything not commanded in Scripture is rejected. Whereas Lutherans believe in adiaphora, which means that anything that isn’t explicitly forbidden is allowed
@@DeFyYing True but liberal Reformed and Presbyterian churches tend to have services that are very similar to Episcopalian worship.
@@brendonpremkumar8207 Ive noticed that too, it seems mainline denominations are usually more liturgical than their conservative counterparts, especially TEC vs ACNA and UMC vs Wesleyan/FMC/Nazarene. My local PCUSA church is this huge building, looks almost like a cathedral (ofc they dont have bishops so not actually lol)
Lutheranism seems tricky though, there are some very liturgical ELCA churches near me but most aren’t, hell with the one in my town the pastor doesn’t even wear vestments for their contemporary service! Online Ive seen many Evangelical Catholic LCMS pastors but around me they’re also just as low church
Wish Lutheranism in America wasn’t so pietistic overall, Europe seems to care more about retaining the Mass like the Augsburg Confession actually says :(
This is a beautiful church, beautiful organ, and glorious acoustics. I loved the procession with the thurifer, crucifer, torchbearers and banner bearers. This very much reminds me of a high-church Anglican Vespers as well. Thanks for posting this video!
wow they even have Theotokos
Lutheranism has always been about renewing actual catholisism. That can't be denied allthough one of course can disagree whether it was achieved.
I love the variation in registry on the organ being played in such glorious acoustics. I also like the procession with smoke, cross and numerous torches, followed by a banner of the Mother of God: so stately and dignified. Very beautiful and thank you for posting this video.
Älskar denna psalm, så vacker gudstjänst
Allt i sverige kan vara som detta gudstjänst.
I wish Lutheran churches in America were like this. Love the robes, incense, cross, and even the banner with Mother Mary. But usually American churches are rather plain, with the pastor wearing only a stole, and a simple altar with a plain cross and a few candles. But I am also very saddened with the progressive direction that Lutherans in Europe are taking. I pray that the Word of God is taken more seriously and that a revival happens. 🙏
(Lutheranism) Is a knock_off" of Catholicism! Their Wannabes" everyone knows this. Even if you know an ounce of official' Church history. They can claim as many others have, to be Catholic' but they are Not! Not even close...
Its called the catholic/orthodox church, where God is treated reverently and properly in a proper church.
@@christianorthodoxy4769 Very big of you calling others historically illiterate when you don't seem to take the creation of the Lutheran church into consideration at all. There's no "wannabeism", it came into fruition for a reason.
@@_loss_ it's Satanic/Demonic' Rebellion" at the very Core. You obviously aren't to well familiar with that arch_heretic Martian Lucifer, are you... The garbage he said & taught and to this day the Lutheran's attempt to hide lot's of his stuff that they edit it to hopefully sterilize it and clean it up to make a little bit more palatable for people just as yourself to swallow. 🔥🙁☹️😕❤️🔥💔 You really need to study and go deep inside the whole issue before making yourself look foolish, Almighty' God save you from your delusion and deception. Lord have mercy'
At least 2 Lutheran high churches in Manhattan NYC.
Love this. Wish my Lutheran church was this beautiful.
Why isn't it?
It is the biggest cathedral in Scandinavia and truly magnificient...the Church of Sweden as a body is much more high church than the American lutheran churches, and this is especially high church.
The closer Lutherans lived near Roman Catholics and suffered the 30 Years [religious] War in central Europe and that killed 1/3 of the population of Germany, the more they distanced themselves from their catholic heritage--though much still remains. In Scandinavia, Lutherans did not have this experience and so retained more of it. They did not borrow these elements from Anglicans. It is part and parcel Lutheran. All Lutherans deleted certain elements in the mass that they found unscriptural, put it the differing languages of people, stressed preaching and introduced hymn singing. More and more, the 70 million Lutherans around the world are gradually re-appropriating their catholic heritage--some more, others less. But unlike Protestants it has always been there to some degree.
As an anglican I would feel at home with this service as the procession and robed choir are very familiar.
The Liturgy is also, very similar. I was surprised when I attended with a school friend of mine about how similar the Sunday service Smal Catechism is.
I bet you feel at home in another Schismatic" Re-formed (deformed*) Protestant! breakaway C_hurt🔥 😢 sad. Indeed and ignorant... 💔
Mein Herr...Amen Stand up and shout his holy name...
Swedish church keeps a little bit of it's catholic roots. And that's good.
Beautiful!!!! Im Oriental Orthodox but when I visit North Europe, I want to visit lutheran
No. Please stay away from these so-called churches my friend. 😢 No good Not good at all" Bad idea.
@thedoctorplusone It is no 512 (Hymn book of the Swedish Church) Det ringer till vila (evening hymn). Lyrics: Archbishop J.O. Wallin (who has written many hymns, this was written in Järvsö and is also known by that name) 1838 and music: I. Widén 1916.
I love the church in my country ( Indonesia ) we don't have a very very beautifull Protestant church or a high protestant church, beacuse Indonesian Churches get influent from the Calvinist and the Charismatic
yoi padahal HKBP bisa diubah kaya gini, tp blm ada yg sadar
Gabriel Sir. Hkbp sibuk baku hantam di sinode godang
@@cherokeechung4368 awkwkwk ribut terus ndak guna memang
I’d feel much more at home if the Lutheran church in America would readopt this liturgy and church design. We’ve allowed the reformed to influence us too greatly. We don’t really do the liturgy of the hours here at all and Americanism runs deep in our veins.
I agree 100%. I'm so sick of American Lutheran churches that seem more like Methodist or Presbyterian churches. What's worse, Lutheran churches with so called "contemporary worship". You have to look really hard to find a high church Lutheran liturgy.
🤨 Lol. 😕 Hilarious"
CHRIST JESÚS SAVES DELIVERS AND HEALS!
SHALOM
The music is by Ivar Widén, 1916, B-minor 6/4 beat
I agree. The Lutheran church here seems so fragmented and each congregations seems to "do their own thing" ... to me this further divides a church when a congregation makes their own rules. I say get it together for the good of all. And, there are so many different sects of the Lutheran church. The Catholics have got it organized well.
Which is the reason for Martin Luther's distention against Rome. Don't tell us. Let the Word of God speak to us!
As a Catholic i am impressed on how you still preserve your Catholic Heritage amd uses traditional hynms sad that the Modern world had dystroyed our ancient tradition 😊
No. They did not preserve Their Catholic faith nor Apostolic' Tradition.. on the contrary. 😢 They have Departed! Far far away from it.
@mrstjs Well this was a special occasion, but the Cathedral of Uppsala is magnificent. Maybe you should talk with your pastor so that the parish could adopt a more High church liturgy
Incense has not been commonly used except among the high Church like here. But on the tv broadcasted Easter night liturgy from the Cathedral of Linköping with Bishop Modéus they actually used incense. Was surprising.
this is protestant church? like Catholic huh... in my place i cant find protestant church like this. beautiful...
Yes protestant, Evangelical Lutheran Church of Sweden
so before that was a Catholic Chruch?
yes.... before 1527, all these beautiful and big churches were Catholic, but KIng Gustav of Sweden forced these churches and all Swedes to convert to Lutheranism, but this church was originally built by Catholics for Catholic Masses.... the same thing happened in Norway, Denmark, Iceland, England, Holland, Findland and Scotland.... Protestants turned Catholic churches and Cathedrals into Protestant churches!
+Multi0703 Possession is 9/10ths of the law; all happening after pagans invaded the first Christian church, blended God's teachings with heathenism and created Roman Catholicism. The Lutherans broke ranks with her in 1517. You say 1527 but everyone knows it was on 31st October, 1517 that Dr. Martin Luther, a young devout monk, publicized his list of 95 theses inquiring among other things on the sale of indulgences, actually selling the way to heaven.
@Sidney Dorsett
So why Luther kept according to his will many of the things that Protestant fanatics like you seems to hate or ignore other Protestants do, such as the Mass, the veneration for the Virgin Mary, churches, cathedrals, celebration of Christian holidays, statues, paints, icons, stained glassed, the calendar of the saints, the celebration of the saints, a hierarchy and all the Catholic thinking medieval literature, from Saint Thomas Aquinas to Saint Augustine of Algeria?
- It is clear to me that his struggle was more about getting power than to "purify" the Church.
- Erasmus was able to reform the Church and died as a Catholic, so did Saint Francis of Assisi.
Stop lying, please!
Thank you! Well Lutherans in other countries are less High Church.
Thanks! Yes it is the biggest cathedral of all Scandinavian countries.
I could be Lutheran if they were align with the Bible in certain popular issues but I will stick on being a Roman Catholic for now. Anyways we are all Christians anyway. Lets just love our neighbours. I did not convert from islam to spread hatred among Christian brothers
Yes, we Christians are a big family with differences but we're still Christians. I attend Latin mass all the time and Lutheran high church is reminiscent to me of Catholic High Mass.
Go to the Latin Mass. it is sacred and rich in Tradition!
You are on the right track, you were wise to listen to God and convert from Islam to Christianity, but don't be afraid to learn about other Christian churches besides the Catholic Church, I was a Catholic, then I was a Baptist, and now I'm a Pentecostal, here is the main thing I found a lot of Churches are missing, the baptism needs to be according to the scripture, under water and in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ according to Acts 2:38
Luther changed the Church only to that which the Bible commands. Lutheranism is really just the name for the Apostolic Faith of the Church Fathers. If you want what is Biblical, go to a Confessional Lutheran Church.
Madame Poovie No, you are mistaken. You have no ownership rights to that which the Lord commanded. Martin Luther condemned all protestant denominations, and never renounced his Catholic Faith. Lutherans aren't really Protestant in the first place. We are still waiting for Rome to correct its heresies so that we may come back into communion together. God bless you, friend.
That's Regina H. Fryxell's setting of that hymn she wrote as #218 in the ELCA 1958 SBH Hymnal. Nice.
sehr schön!
Grüße aus Deutschland.
Berni
Almost same as in catholic church where I'm weekly attending.
Very unusual for a Reformed guy to see this service and procession at first. Very interesting how two denominations, founded at about the same time and very close to each other territorially, differ. It really reminds me more catholicism than Reformation time offshoots of Christianity
That's because the Lutheran Church, unlike the Reformed Church, never meant to be Protestant. Although Luther was credited for the Reformation, he saw his movement as a reforming movement within the Catholic Church rather than Protestant. So Lutherans are really closer to Roman Catholics than to Reformed.
@@brendonpremkumar8207 agreed, I think ultimately it came from two very different perspectives of the Reformation. While both the Lutherans and the Reformed agreed on taking issue with the Catholic church of their day, the latter felt that reformation necessitated completely rebuilding the Church from the ground up, whereas the former merely sought to reform it while maintaining as much of its preexisting structure as possible
This is mostly seen with the Reformed regulative principle vs the Lutheran normative principle. Essentially, Calvin believed that anything which was not explicitly commanded in Scripture should be forbidden in terms of doctrine and worship. Meanwhile, Luther believed that anything which is explicitly forbidden in Scripture should be thrown out, but anything else is fair game. So anything of the Christian faith which is neither commanded nor forbidden (adiaphora) is permitted to exist, and often is preferable for it to in order to maintain continuity with the Early Church and its patrimony
@@DeFyYingin simpler terms Luther just found it difficult to completely get rid of any Catholic influence as it would be expected, and other reformers and Protestants over time sought to eliminate any trace of Catholicism in them and had no problems with that.
This service however seems to be very “Catholic” oriented however even for Lutheran standards, you probably wouldn’t see Luther’s service like this ideally
@x8lover Yes, as did the bishop of the Church of England taking part in the evening song.
Nice Church and I am Catholic so piece to the 2 sides
I hope that one day we Lutherans will be reinserted into the Catholic Church as long as the Lutheran particulars are respected.
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Even though I attended a Methodist Church I remember going with my Grandma Hazel weasel quest tua Lutheran Church
@karpov89 Thanks for the clarification and thank you for taking the time to make this video. I wish more Lutheran Churches in the States embraced their Catholic heritage/past.
In fact, in recent times, I've seen more Lutheran Churches here trying to distant themselves from it. One Lutheran Church near my home remains Lutheran but took the name off of the front.
@jojanv They might be singing the liturgy in Latin if it were Catholic, but this is a hymn, thus it is in the native language. However, this isn't a Catholic service anyway, though it's not far off.
@karpov89 Thanks for the clarification. I really loved watching your video. I wish more Lutheran Churches in the States embraced their Catholic heritage/past.
In fact, in recent times, I've seen more Lutheran Churches here trying to distant themselves from it. One Lutheran Church near my home remains Lutheran but took the name off of the front.
Sad.
Thanks, it is called Det ringer till vila (in Swedish), by 19th century archbishop Johan Olov Wallin.
@UncleAl3 Thanks for the information; I did not know about the origin of the icon on the banner.
@speaks3703 Well there may be parts in Latin, and even Greek in the liturgy eventhough it is not Catholic, like in "Julnattsmässa i Mariakyrkan 2 - Christmas night mass in the Church of St. Mary 2"
A Swedish Church full of people!? Sweden is so atheistic its not funny! Yet, this video gives me hope. I am faving it.
What is the processional song? I really love it!
What is the image on the banner that the women are holding at 2:42? Is it the Virgin Mary?
Very beautiful song ! This is Lutheran Church right ? But the liturgy is very catholic ! The church is quiet packed though.. But only less than 4% swedish attend weekly mass right ?
abcdefgh1688 Church of Sweden, I am not sure how many, that depends on where and what church
+abcdefgh1688 Of course the liturgy is Catholic, Catholicism is the form of worship that is closest to God in scripture, works, sacrament, and prayer. Catholics do not leave out parts of scripture that other sects seem to ignore, nor books of the bible, for that matter. Catholicism is complete surrender and devotion.
The Liturgy is Lutheran. Luther retained much of the Mass, just tossed out what wasn't Scriptural.
Beautiful hymn.
Who knows the title of the hymn?
Swedish psalm 512
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An interesting banner being carried, the Byzantine icon of Our Lady of the Sign.
It's called Platytera.
People, this isn't a protestant church, look at description. Is a union between lutheran and catholic traditions, the Swedish Church Union.
@Masaru Kodama "is a movement which began in 20th-century Europe that emphasizes worship practices and doctrines that are similar to those found within both Roman Catholicism and the Anglo-Catholic wing of Anglicanism"
"The mentioned countries, once a part of the Swedish Empire, have more markedly preserved Catholic traditions. "
@Masaru Kodama This is the reason that i wrote "a union between lutehran and catholic traditions" but as many protestants, especially swedish, I think they're more close to catholicism with this liturgy and tradition, even if the protestant theology. They're like a "via media"
@@LuigiFilipeBonvenuto They are in full communion with Church of England as well, the priests and bishops in this video are from "Swedish Church Union", regarding to this association, they had a tight relationship with Anglo-Catholicism in history, and affected by the oxford movement, very interesting.
I just saw it. I have always bought American anyways but, thank you for posting this.
beautiful church, there will still know about this beautiful country and these beautiful churches.
Yes, very often on feast days and high holy days.
I don't think there is that strong connection between singing in latin and being high church so Longcaulk is correct.
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I want to know why do the reformed churches (calvinism) are looking far different of Lutherans?
Very late reply lol, but the Calvinists were iconoclasts and believed in the regulative principle. Essentially anything that wasn't explicitly in the Bible was strictly forbidden. Whereas the Lutherans wanted to preserve many parts of the ancient church tradition, as long as it wasn't explicitly forbidden by Scripture. If it wasn't mentioned, then it could still be optionally practiced.
Yes it looks very Anglican indeed.
Greetings from a Roman Catholic.
The lutheranism is beautiful
No. It's not 😢 NO WAY! Lol.
@@christianorthodoxy4769It is extremely beautiful with lots of iconography
I didn't know Lutherans are so Catholic-like! Nice video
It's a knock off"
Nice video, but not sure it was good to be filming from the pews so close to other worshipers. I for one would not appreciate a camera stuck in my face. But, that's just me.
@1891serru The Catholics are our friends of course, but High Church is High Church, the expression has its origin within the Anglican Communion.
@koiny2009 Well the sound of the camera is not perfect....maybe a bit loud in one or two of the verses, but it is also tradition with powerful organ.
I like their hats :)
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What is the name of the hymn at the beginning, and is there an English version of it?
There needs to be an ordinariate for Lutherans
When we can see this in church?i mean are they having any spcl day for this.bcs i want to see this live.Can u plz tell me the day and time
What is the title of the hymn? It's great!
optimatus Det ringer Till Villa
I think it is interesting to see the amount of people NOT singing and looking around.
Tourists
@tmaclure3 This is not the mass but a vesper but what you say is correct. However if the service is called anything else than the mass - you can say it is abolished. The word 'mass' is still used in the Scandinavian countries.
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Biskopen ser ut som N. T. Wright. (The bishop looks like N. T. Wright)
Thank you for the information. Do you know where I could obtain a copy of the sheet music for this hymn?
The hymn is called "Det ringer till vila".
@stpaulphillip I know. I wish my Lutheran parish was like this!
what is the name of the hymn they are singing? It is very nice.
beautiful!!!!
Why irritating?! Well German Lutherans are very influenced by the reformed Church..
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The problem though is Church of Sweden (as a whole body), ECLA and also the Episcopals I Think Believe that the priest in the sacrifice of the mass re-presents Jesus Christ as High priest like Melchizedek, meaning that the Apostolic succession is necessary for a valid eucharist, also that there are 7 sacraments.
Answer me please about the hymn
@aal49 No idea.
I want then name of the first hymn
@redbrian3655 That was very few.
what is the difference between high church lutheran and anglican high church?
Old High Church Anglicans had a Eucharistic theology more similar to the Reformed school, emphasising a spiritual real presence rather than corporal, but they also reserved more 'Catholic' understandings than Lutherans in Eucharistic Sacrifice and Apostolic ministry, also certain aspects regarding to the Saints and dead faithful (we may find some indirect invocational prayers to the saints in 17th c Laudians). The Anglo-catholics after the Oxford Movement are in all aspacts more in line with the Roman Chuch, some anglo-papalists even see the pope as their spiritual leader, embracing the infalibility.
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Does anyone know the name of the hymn they're singing?
@koiny2009 What is absurd?! In my channel you have to write in Scandinavian languages, English or German.
WOw! WHo's the cutie at 01:36?
Is this church part of the Free Synod?
No, Church of Sweden
I saw this film and will never buy a German car because of it.
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YIKES!
this is the anniversary of Luther's protest. How dare you!
Too bad they practice the ordination of women and other abnormalities.
Saint John Quincy why is that abnormal?
Saint John Quincy I'm swedish, and I agree with you. But many of us still oppose women priests.
I live in a parish where all priests are conservative "high church". It's growing with converts from Islam and a revival with many young people. The sermons are allways excellent with references to the Church fathers and the holy scripture. The congregation is like a big family.
But of course, the liberals have destroyed much. Everything they touch dies, as one priest told me.
kingjayapala It's wrong with women as priests, both according to the holy Scripture and tradition. Luther also explicitly opposed women as priests.
But women can serve as deaconesses, make important decisions in the parish council, run the economy and a lot of other things.
Stig Bylind that's good that you have high church liturgy and are growing with new converts from Islam. But I still see nothing wrong with female pastors in the 21st century. And I'm a very religious Lutheran in the US who actively shares the Good News with every person I can. But I'll admit that I'm quite liberal in most of my views.
kingjayapala Yes, we live in the 21th century, but what's that supposed to mean? 100 years ago people lived in the 20th century. Every period of time has been "modern" for the people of that time. That's not an argument for women priests. Actually, it's not an argument at all. Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, and today and forever.
The New Testament priest (=presbyter) is "father of the house" for God's people, one of those "whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of meat in due season". Everyone familiar with jewish celebration of Passover can see the same structure (and of course in the last supper when Jesus "took bread, gave thanks, brake and gave". The priests serves "in the person of Christ".
There were priestesses in several pagan religions, and demands were apparently made in apostolic time that women should preach and lead the congregation. However that was rejected by the apostles. St. Paul didn't refer to something that can change with time, but to "commandments of the Lord".
Because the church is generally attributed with feminine terms "holy mother church", "the bride of Christ", I think true balance is achieved with an all-male priesthood. That was God's all-wise counsel from the beginning.
What song are they singing?
Ok ! Do they accept gay marriages? Church of Sweden ---does it approve of outward homosexual behsviour?
Unfortunately, yes. And that is a big reason why the pews are empty in Swedish churches.
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