Loved the whole interview and especially this session. The way I see it she distinguishes the work (acting) from the industry and that seems very important and valuable to me, because you can simultaneously love the job and be very good at it while feeling disconected from the habits, expectations and pace of the industry; and that applies not only for artists but for so many other professional fields, mine included. It’s a very interesting perception and I’m thankfull for being able to revisit the interview from time to time.
Its interesting, Mia Wasikowka said basically the same things about the acting profession. I think a lot of people see the glitz and Glamour of hollywood and want to be part of that, but when they do actually gain entry so to speak, they realise its not what they thought it would be. Which can be soul destroying.
@@VeeLondon1449 Her grandfather was an absolutely brilliant director and a very flawed man. But I am tired of connected people telling us how hard they worked, and how they saved their pennies. It is so tone-deaf. I know people love to hate Gwynth but she at least is honest - she has talked about winning the lottery at birth.
@@LG-dj9qr totally agree. Just say “hey I get that I was born in third base, I didn’t choose it but here I am and I got handed the ball. Still had to run with it though.”
Acting is a great job if you can get it: stand there, wear this, say that, but it is hard profession because you are so dependent on other people to create work for you. Stringing together a career is tough.
You can create your own work though. You can write a screenplay or short story. Look at sly stallone, Ben affleck and matt Damon, they created work for themselves.
I first saw the huge gulf between the work of acting and the profession when watching Robert DeNiro squirm through an interview while sitting next to a quite comfortable Meryl Streep. Just because you excel at acting doesn't mean you excel at sitting in front of a camera as yourself, answering questions from strangers that would be hella rude in any other situation. And that's just the tip of the iceberg.
This guys is the perfect interviewer. He's not a wannabe like so many, he's not obnoxious. He doesn't overtalk his guests. He listens and know when to shut the fuck up
Sad to hear zoe feels this way about acting and the business. i hope things can change because she’s such a great actress! and want to see her in more things in the future.
I really like Zoe Kaz as an actress, and I know that Hollywood (not just acting) can come with ridiculous requirements/pressures. My only question is, does the love of acting overweigh the undesirable/miserable aspects of the business? Because while it does pay well, and it being the passion of many, are the downsides really worth it? If you don't want your child to go into acting, you still being in the business will only encourage them to step into it. Cameron Diaz, and many others made the decisions to quit, but its not always easy of course. Anyway, lovely interview, looking forward to more stuff Zoe Kaz will be in! Keep it up Sam.
Sometimes it does. Sometimes it doesn't. And it varies day to day, season to season. And boy, I hate to break it to you, but it pays shit for 99% of us.
Here’s the real question, should we actually discourage young females who want to act or should we work on dismantling and remaking the system that has kept older stories less desirable and women oppressed?
what people in the entertainment industry fail to understand, we “regular” people are also on a treadmill. We aren’t promoted, we have office politics, typically people in leadership are inept…they’re risen beyond their ability to be successful at that level, the Peter Principal….but we usually don’t get paid as well. I know not all actors have financial success…bif you have some fame you have access to things regular people do not, It’s all high school, there is always a treadmill, no one is better than you….they just organized and planned their life better.
Is it really any different from any profession tho? Everything I've ever done would be wonderful if not for the litany of downsides that complicate it from pay to working conditions...everything is riddled with costs. The more desirable the job, the more the downsides, in terms of cost of chasing that profession. Such is life as a human, I'd think.
Why. so serious? Really, just enjoy your career. She got in with the support of her parents, so kinda lucky (imo) while others are truly struggling to even get one gig. Dance is a harder profession. Ballet is tough. Acting, if your a B actor pay a sh*zzton more. So really, if you don't truly "enjoy" it, don't do it. Maybe take more independent gigs. Glad she's speaking out about women but now-a-days it IS changing. Directors don't get too far with a certain attitude. The script-writing (at least what we've all watched on Netflix) has definitely improved. So no, actors/ actresses today aren't all miserable- just find your niche.
@@corpsefoot758 did we watch the same interview? The whole world knows that Hollywood is brutal, ageist and sexist. It's not exactly a secret - she can be honest about it all she wants, with or without her famous last name.
@Robert Slack she’s going to break away and become an actor and not a screen writer or director like her parents or her famous grandfather because being an actress is so hard and all her actress friends are miserable and she paid for her acting lessons and blah blah blah.
@Robert Slack of course not, but nobody wants to hear a privileged girl complain about how difficult her chosen career can be…women have it worse in the real world than behind the silver screen.
Looking at their body language throughout this clip just drives home again how amazing Sam is at what he does
I’m chomping at the bit to hear the whole interview. She just helped me see the futility and frustration of the profession in a whole new way.
*Champing
@@therocketboost chomping makes more sense.
@@redfordreddington8834 Isn't the phrase though.
@@therocketboost thank you!!
The Zoe Kazan interview is one of the better interviews on his show.
Loved the whole interview and especially this session. The way I see it she distinguishes the work (acting) from the industry and that seems very important and valuable to me, because you can simultaneously love the job and be very good at it while feeling disconected from the habits, expectations and pace of the industry; and that applies not only for artists but for so many other professional fields, mine included. It’s a very interesting perception and I’m thankfull for being able to revisit the interview from time to time.
Its interesting, Mia Wasikowka said basically the same things about the acting profession. I think a lot of people see the glitz and Glamour of hollywood and want to be part of that, but when they do actually gain entry so to speak, they realise its not what they thought it would be. Which can be soul destroying.
I love how she is holding herself like she is comforting herself as she is being vulnerable. Introverts, we roll differently.
Hmm, she doesn't seem THAT introverted.
It’s funny to hear zoe talking about “getting older” when she literally looks like she never ages lol
I love that she spoke about this
I love how she refers to her father’s father (Elia Kazan) as just some director.
We call those people "Grandpa", or some such, where I come from...
@@corneliuspraeda6452 She is understandably uncomfortable about the role he played in McCarthyism witch hunts.
@@VeeLondon1449 Her grandfather was an absolutely brilliant director and a very flawed man. But I am tired of connected people telling us how hard they worked, and how they saved their pennies. It is so tone-deaf. I know people love to hate Gwynth but she at least is honest - she has talked about winning the lottery at birth.
@@VeeLondon1449 god people in TH-cam and fight about anything.
@@LG-dj9qr totally agree. Just say “hey I get that I was born in third base, I didn’t choose it but here I am and I got handed the ball. Still had to run with it though.”
Acting is a great job if you can get it: stand there, wear this, say that, but it is hard profession because you are so dependent on other people to create work for you. Stringing together a career is tough.
You can create your own work though. You can write a screenplay or short story. Look at sly stallone, Ben affleck and matt Damon, they created work for themselves.
@@eoinMB3949 3 actors out of thousands and thousands. Well done You.
But when they get successful it is fun. I always said that if I could choose to be very successful at something that would be acting.
@stryfetc1 Another 5 to the list of hundreds of thousands actors. WOW. Great representation.
@@murphymagic you sound bitter
Honest and refreshing. Great interview.
I first saw the huge gulf between the work of acting and the profession when watching Robert DeNiro squirm through an interview while sitting next to a quite comfortable Meryl Streep. Just because you excel at acting doesn't mean you excel at sitting in front of a camera as yourself, answering questions from strangers that would be hella rude in any other situation. And that's just the tip of the iceberg.
IN YOUR EYES was an incredible film, and she amazing in it. My favorite from this actress.
Have you seen Ruby Sparks which she also wrote and produced?
This guys is the perfect interviewer. He's not a wannabe like so many, he's not obnoxious. He doesn't overtalk his guests. He listens and know when to shut the fuck up
Sad to hear zoe feels this way about acting and the business. i hope things can change because she’s such a great actress! and want to see her in more things in the future.
Every industry sucks it’s best to just work for yourself
I really like Zoe Kaz as an actress, and I know that Hollywood (not just acting) can come with ridiculous requirements/pressures. My only question is, does the love of acting overweigh the undesirable/miserable aspects of the business? Because while it does pay well, and it being the passion of many, are the downsides really worth it? If you don't want your child to go into acting, you still being in the business will only encourage them to step into it. Cameron Diaz, and many others made the decisions to quit, but its not always easy of course.
Anyway, lovely interview, looking forward to more stuff Zoe Kaz will be in! Keep it up Sam.
Sometimes it does. Sometimes it doesn't. And it varies day to day, season to season. And boy, I hate to break it to you, but it pays shit for 99% of us.
Business always comes in the way so yeah it can be a pain in the ass goin thru
She seems to be have raised and loved right. She has a great head on her shoulder. I am fame of her character.
Here’s the real question, should we actually discourage young females who want to act or should we work on dismantling and remaking the system that has kept older stories less desirable and women oppressed?
The previous system is already dismantled, we are already in the new system. Crazy how we don’t have utopia yet.
She was FANTASTIC in What If (or The F Word for non Americans)!
@@SonicCloudLink Different project. She was in a film from 2014 called 'What If'.
we all hate our professions because most of them shouldnt even exist. But we dont mind the actual job and people we work with each day.
What if you hate both Id rather work for myself
Guess I'll give it a go and do other stuff too. Good interview!
Wow a real interview. Rare.
what people in the entertainment industry fail to understand, we “regular” people are also on a treadmill. We aren’t promoted, we have office politics, typically people in leadership are inept…they’re risen beyond their ability to be successful at that level, the Peter Principal….but we usually don’t get paid as well. I know not all actors have financial success…bif you have some fame you have access to things regular people do not,
It’s all high school, there is always a treadmill, no one is better than you….they just organized and planned their life better.
She is 100% correct
Wow! She actually told the truth about what it feels like to be an actor 😅
(Yes I act in indie films)
Holy Crap he kept cutting her off
Parents projecting their own fears onto their kids and then not supporting them... great way to kill a deep relationship.
The interviewer interrupts her every two seconds. Not my jam.
Omg she had to take the bus!
Go and listen to the whole interview. Probably the most profound and poignant that I heard on this show.
Is it really any different from any profession tho? Everything I've ever done would be wonderful if not for the litany of downsides that complicate it from pay to working conditions...everything is riddled with costs. The more desirable the job, the more the downsides, in terms of cost of chasing that profession. Such is life as a human, I'd think.
Spot on! To the fullest.
Acting in the way she describes it is DEFINITELY different from "safe" careers like engineering, etc. No comparison.
@@jon8004 Damn. But y'all cherry picking and being so technical about it. It's all besides the point he was trying to make.
thought she was little Esther at first.
Kazan... just like that movie with Sinbad.
Nah, Kazaam starred Shaq.
@@WaitingtoHit Oh, I see, you're one of those people...
@@davideassis87 One of what people? Were you joking? If so, there was no way for me to tell. People make that Sinbad/Shaq mistake all the time.
@@WaitingtoHit You know exactly what I'm talking about. ¬¬
@@davideassis87 No, I don't, and that is the result you can expect if you are resolved to be a poor communicator.
Learn to code.
Cool
Isn't she just describing how people judge one another in any stage of life anyway?
Not really, because not everyone's livelihood is based upon other people deeming them attractive enough to act in a film.
It's a really hard life unlike battling a blazing inferno or chasing dangerous criminals
It’s not a competition
Isn’t it crazy that people who are paid to stand in front of a camera are judged by their looks?
Crossed arms, very defensive
Glad I wasn’t the only one who picked up on that
It's probably cold in the studio.
Why. so serious? Really, just enjoy your career. She got in with the support of her parents, so kinda lucky (imo) while others are truly struggling to even get one gig. Dance is a harder profession. Ballet is tough. Acting, if your a B actor pay a sh*zzton more. So really, if you don't truly "enjoy" it, don't do it. Maybe take more independent gigs. Glad she's speaking out about women but now-a-days it IS changing. Directors don't get too far with a certain attitude. The script-writing (at least what we've all watched on Netflix) has definitely improved. So no, actors/ actresses today aren't all miserable- just find your niche.
Ohhh poor me... if you don't like it don't do it. Simple.
Wow im sure she is a blast to hang out with. Said nobody ever.
She reminds me so much of myself. But trust me, that's what the drugs and alcohol are for!.. God, I hate myself. lol
Boo hoo
It’s kinda weird to see a product of nepotism complain about her job, especially
She should be grateful for her last name
@@corpsefoot758 did we watch the same interview? The whole world knows that Hollywood is brutal, ageist and sexist. It's not exactly a secret - she can be honest about it all she wants, with or without her famous last name.
@@azulk955 of course she can, but her complaining is annoying because everyone's eating a shit sandwich but doesn't 'speak out' about it
@Robert Slack she’s going to break away and become an actor and not a screen writer or director like her parents or her famous grandfather because being an actress is so hard and all her actress friends are miserable and she paid for her acting lessons and blah blah blah.
@Robert Slack of course not, but nobody wants to hear a privileged girl complain about how difficult her chosen career can be…women have it worse in the real world than behind the silver screen.