I really like that y'all are doing this series again, i remember when i first got into this sport there was also a series explaining FE and that really helped me get up to speed with the sport. and this one is more in-depth too so yeah, great for new fans. also, i like that the drivers featured in this are the FE veterans.
I think you people should talk more about how regen works. I think it's a really cool bit of technology and that it's also worth explaining why regenerating too much power is penalized
I also think power usage in general should be explained because drivers are also penalized for “overconsumption” - why can’t isn’t the energy usage capped remotely so that drivers just “run out” of energy just like they would run out of gas? Wouldn’t that be penalty enough?
@@BillyCovington just like your road car, running out of energy (or fuel) will not mean there is nothing left, it just means that they desperately need to fill up. It allows you to travel a bit longer to do so, otherwise cars would be stopping in the middle of the road. Plus, completely draining your battery and charging it to its maximum is actually bad for it. This is why most car companies will set 0% to display when a little is still left, and 100% when it could still hold more charge. Formula E penalise using more than the allocation because it encourages the manufacturers to become more and more efficient, which increases road relevancy
@@BillyCovington the most important aspect of this would be so that cars don't come to a standstill on the middle of the track, which would impede other drivers or straight up cause a crash. Of course drivers could "glide" somewhat out of the racing line, but that really only mitigates the problem, the street circuits are really narrow after all. And it also prevents yellow flags and/or safety cars coming out on the last few laps, not only to keep the racing going but also to negate having the stewards out on track. Arguably they could have the car go into limp mode once they 'run out' as that would be a good way to make the penalties immediately apparent, but that's still liable to cause some accidents when racing in tight packs.
Formula E death: 0 I hope it stays right there And RIP Justin Wilson, he was killed in an IndyCar accident before he was able to drive Formula E in the new 2015 season
Can see all these guys' passion for the sport, no one is overly media trained, just pure interest and passion for motorspot shining through, great stuff
Am a marshal, we definitely don't do that. That's just irresponsible. *Stands in front of debris collection* In all seriousness though, I have a bit of front splitter from a GT3 car that hit the wall about 10m from me
For some reason, this is the only place where these videos are released, and it's a shame that it's only here, because the topics are extremely interesting. :з
Super interesting video. I never even considered how a wrecked FE car could be a potential electric shock hazard but after watching this, it makes perfect sense.
if there's ever one, FIA gonna be stomping down the alley and do a serious investigation and to see if it would affect the other cars (iirc all cars use the same battery)
@mosscliff red car mean the outside of the car is potentially live (has current going through it). It also means that the driver is probably not having a good time because it’s a hard knock to get the car live (they have very strong connections in the battery bay and a strong surrounding). If it is live, and a driver or marshal touches the car (driver is insulated in the cockpit), it would ground a probably fatal current through them.
For those who question why the rubber around the car, it’s because carbon fibre like the body of the car is electrical conductive, and if there was a short, it would harm/cause death to anyone touching it.
They were talking about doing an entire electric junior ladder a few months ago but I don’t know whether they still plan on doing that and if it’s anything more than just an idea to explore at this point
I like this idea but idk what will happen when a driver wants to switch from f1 ladder to the FE ladder. Like would they start from the bottom again or would they go from F3->F3E?
I think it was a full course yellow when he crashed there. And I don't think we've seen any red light situation in FE so that's why he was cleared to get out
@@nikamirimran I remember him jumping straight out as he was in the path of the cars. Unusually they just told him off, Unlike when he wore the wrong underpants 🤣
Do you also use SAFER barriers? I mean at some tracks they could be very useful and they've stood the test of time in NASCAR, Indycar and F1. And hopefully the Mini has AC😉
Im not 100% on this but I believe that SAFER barries have to be permanent installations, so they use the tech pros since they can act as temporary barriers for the race
I’d like to see this video finished with what actually happens to the cars after a crash. Are they trashed? Rebuilt? Recycled? Etc. where do the parts that are broken end up? Can we purchase them as souvenirs?
@@insane_t1605 yep, they have so far to go! The only comparable track really is Mexico City, the Formula E layout is 2.98 km and the fastest lap they did was 1:26. The Formula 1 layout is 4.3 km and the fastest lap time was 1:18!! FE cars are so slow compared to any real racing cars. I just hope it stays where it is and doesn’t force real cars from racing in the future.
Because these cars are navigating pretty narrow street circuits, I think four-wheel steering and torque vectoring would be a pretty helpful addition. It would also be nice to see four-wheel steering become a lot more commonplace on road cars. Additionally, I would like to see _regenerative suspension_ happen: basically, the suspension system is coupled with linear alternators and piezoelectric materials so that even the smallest suspension travel from the slightest bump in the road will produce a small bit of extra energy for the battery without the car needing to slow down. Lastly, something that I want to see on the cars (mostly for aesthetic, but possibly also for function) would be underglow. Name one motorsport where all of the cars have an underglow. That's what I thought.
@@AmaroqStarwind true. Also good ideas btw. The glowing lights would look amazing on night circuit, like it wouldn't add much weight or use alot electricity. Also the suspension thing might be a good idea, but I just can't think of a situation where that can happen though.
I think the side skirts and covered wheel arches are better than in F1, we wouldn't see another driver going in between the Tyres and causing a crash like at Silverstone 2021 with VER & HAM or many many others, surely it woulnd't be the end of these types of crashes but it would reduce them I think.
Does Bruno have a co-driver in the safety car? And what would happen if something is wrong with the SC while it's out on track? You probably have a back-up car, but who would drive that?
Small question : with the ecological consideration of FE, why not trying to reduce the number of crash, contact ? (remplacement of parts lead to pollution)
@@TheMangazixy but that would most likely make it more boring. Stricter penalties will make drivers take risks less. And how would you modify the circuit? The circuits themselves are limited to the design of the roads themselves, so changing the layout of a town or city would be impossible.
@@TheMangazixy but when they don't it makes the races so much more interesting. Even if they crashed, at least they attempted it right. Seeing the attempt the daring overtakes are what make Motorsport fun. If you put stricter and stricter regulations, it's all going to end up in drivers all following the exact same drive line with no overtaking just due to fear of receiving penalties if they ever make a mistake.
Whats worrying is how long it takes to put out a fire on an electric car, if the driver gets knocked out there's zero chance it'll be put out in time, i know it's still very possible in a petrol car but there's zero chance with electric
@@redbullsauberpetronas If the safety cell around the battery is damaged, to the point where it can catch fire and get enough oxygen to stay alight, that's likely a fatal crash anyway. It would have to be a huge incident.
@@redbullsauberpetronas don't know if I'm wrong about this but they might probably have a mechanism similar to the formula 1 car separating its engine from the driver
We will need red car evacuation protocol for road EV cars too. Road side emergency response members will also need to imbibe these measures, as more and more EVs take the road in coming years.
I know this is a whole different sport per say but I'd love to see a video on potential time when Formula E and F1 will equal in terms of weight and speed
There’s so much to it though by design, different tyres, different track types, downforce amounts etc. Even if you matched the power output, speed and weight the base chassis would still be very different. I’m not sure there will ever be a direct comparison that’s accurate unless someone designs two the cars specifically to be compared. One ICE, one Electric.
I don't think we will ever get that. With the Gen 2 FE cars, there's way less downforce and tyre contact patch that makes it slower than an f1 car, and the top speed makes it only equal to a formula 3 car. In terms of weight, the FE car already holds a 903kg weight including the driver and battery while the new 2022 f1 car weighs 960kg including the driver and 100kg max fuel allowance
love it? good no... Formula E is so boring to watch on.. Formula E need to run on F1 tracks and have a solution for battery change in the pitstop, not just moving over to another charged car..
where formula E can improve a lot and that is having proper circuts to race around why race on these boring setup street circuts when you can race on a proper race track?? very dumb if u ask me because the cars can run for many laps now with the new technology battery stuff so why race on street circuts?? they all look the same fences and boring barriers you cant really have favorite corners or a any specialness about these boring circuts
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I really like that y'all are doing this series again, i remember when i first got into this sport there was also a series explaining FE and that really helped me get up to speed with the sport. and this one is more in-depth too so yeah, great for new fans.
also, i like that the drivers featured in this are the FE veterans.
Great to hear! Glad you’re enjoying it 🙌
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I think you people should talk more about how regen works. I think it's a really cool bit of technology and that it's also worth explaining why regenerating too much power is penalized
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Huge crash 2021
Nice idea! One for start of next season perhaps?
I also think power usage in general should be explained because drivers are also penalized for “overconsumption” - why can’t isn’t the energy usage capped remotely so that drivers just “run out” of energy just like they would run out of gas? Wouldn’t that be penalty enough?
@@BillyCovington just like your road car, running out of energy (or fuel) will not mean there is nothing left, it just means that they desperately need to fill up. It allows you to travel a bit longer to do so, otherwise cars would be stopping in the middle of the road. Plus, completely draining your battery and charging it to its maximum is actually bad for it. This is why most car companies will set 0% to display when a little is still left, and 100% when it could still hold more charge. Formula E penalise using more than the allocation because it encourages the manufacturers to become more and more efficient, which increases road relevancy
@@BillyCovington the most important aspect of this would be so that cars don't come to a standstill on the middle of the track, which would impede other drivers or straight up cause a crash. Of course drivers could "glide" somewhat out of the racing line, but that really only mitigates the problem, the street circuits are really narrow after all. And it also prevents yellow flags and/or safety cars coming out on the last few laps, not only to keep the racing going but also to negate having the stewards out on track.
Arguably they could have the car go into limp mode once they 'run out' as that would be a good way to make the penalties immediately apparent, but that's still liable to cause some accidents when racing in tight packs.
Waiting for Formula Tank now.
I'm told there is something called "tank biathlon" if that's your thing
95% sure that's already thing in Russia.
Nicholas Latifi has got you covered.
Formula E death: 0
I hope it stays right there
And RIP Justin Wilson, he was killed in an IndyCar accident before he was able to drive Formula E in the new 2015 season
The last thing i want to see from motorsports is a crispy bacon racing
I'd love to see how you go from city streets to a racing battlefield. The construction of the circuits would be really cool to see.
👀 👀 Stay tuned… Also, permission for me to use that phrase?? “City street to racing battlefield” love it!
@@saunderscb 👀👀 you've got me interested now. And go for it, feel free to use it. Would love it if you referenced me but don't worry if not.
Can see all these guys' passion for the sport, no one is overly media trained, just pure interest and passion for motorspot shining through, great stuff
That safety car looks sick af!
Medical team will be so important when the gen 3 car comes out.
Forever grateful to our medical staff ❤️
@@FIAFormulaE ✊
Great insight, thanks for this. 👌 Some more technical info on battery tech would be interesting.
Thanks for watching! Cool, cool... * writes this down *
And I wonder if the marshalls take some debris as souvenirs 🤭
debriefs XD
Am a marshal, we definitely don't do that. That's just irresponsible.
*Stands in front of debris collection*
In all seriousness though, I have a bit of front splitter from a GT3 car that hit the wall about 10m from me
@@AstonCulf wow nice to know! Thanks for telling us 🤗
@@AstonCulf So nice of you explaining this! God bless you at your job!
Well, they're not paid, so flogging off some bits on ebay might be a good way of making money out of the weekend.
Just marshalled the London e-prix - great safety overview of these amazing vehicles.
For some reason, this is the only place where these videos are released, and it's a shame that it's only here, because the topics are extremely interesting. :з
Super interesting video. I never even considered how a wrecked FE car could be a potential electric shock hazard but after watching this, it makes perfect sense.
Wow the video is very intersting 😯
Glad you enjoyed! Which area interested you most?
Fabulous content! I hope we never see a red car in Formula E ✌
if there's ever one, FIA gonna be stomping down the alley and do a serious investigation and to see if it would affect the other cars (iirc all cars use the same battery)
Same!
@mosscliff red car mean the outside of the car is potentially live (has current going through it). It also means that the driver is probably not having a good time because it’s a hard knock to get the car live (they have very strong connections in the battery bay and a strong surrounding). If it is live, and a driver or marshal touches the car (driver is insulated in the cockpit), it would ground a probably fatal current through them.
Once again, brilliant explanation, Formula E.
Everytime I see a Formula E car crash it saddens me i mean look at the sweet chassis
I know right?!
Yeah, they look so good and futuristic, but oh god the sound and the awful circuits...
@@MGLpr0 it's like every race is Monaco or Baku or Singapore
@@MGLpr0 true, would love to see them race at bigger circuits
For those who question why the rubber around the car, it’s because carbon fibre like the body of the car is electrical conductive, and if there was a short, it would harm/cause death to anyone touching it.
10:20 fan showdown
Great Video, very interesting.👍
Glad you enjoyed it! Any other topics you would like explained?
I would really like to know, how the drivers know when to coast or ro regenerate. Those Power Units in general are quite interesting.
I want to see two new series named F2E and F3E that work like F2 and F3 but are on the Formula E progression.
How about the F2E series uses the older Generation cars
That would be interesting! An all-electric junior program. There’s an electric Karting championship now so would make sense.
I’d love to see more races using cars like Teslas and Chevy Bolts.
They were talking about doing an entire electric junior ladder a few months ago but I don’t know whether they still plan on doing that and if it’s anything more than just an idea to explore at this point
I like this idea but idk what will happen when a driver wants to switch from f1 ladder to the FE ladder. Like would they start from the bottom again or would they go from F3->F3E?
7:29 Literally showing Lucus go against what he's telling us you're meant to do 🤣 he wasn't cleared to get out the car here.
I think it was a full course yellow when he crashed there. And I don't think we've seen any red light situation in FE so that's why he was cleared to get out
@@nikamirimran I remember him jumping straight out as he was in the path of the cars. Unusually they just told him off, Unlike when he wore the wrong underpants 🤣
@@vl3005 Editing? Why does the audio have to be from the same time as the video
I thought this was Sanya, but it’s another hairpin 🤷🏻♂️ ...so he literally didn’t do what he’s saying at Sanya.
@@vl3005 see above comment, I changed my mind about this specific clip.
Damn, the level of safety is impressive
Great video 👍
Thanks! 🙌
I love these kind of videos 😁
I'm so proud to be a Formula E Fans!
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Do you also use SAFER barriers? I mean at some tracks they could be very useful and they've stood the test of time in NASCAR, Indycar and F1.
And hopefully the Mini has AC😉
The tech pro barriers se to be the same idea
@@davyt0247 yeah but Tecpros don't deflect. They work pretty much like a reinforced tyre wall.
@@hallo_welt_ag FE doesn’t want to deflect too much though, not with how narrow the courses are
Im not 100% on this but I believe that SAFER barries have to be permanent installations, so they use the tech pros since they can act as temporary barriers for the race
@@AstroLoser32 ah that makes sense.
It's a shame there is more crashing (than F1), but the narrow city tracks and very limited, if not zero, run-off does explain it 👍
His mask has the new F1 front wing design
Make a video about what is going on in the garage during a race and in a pit stop
What element of Formula E would you like to see us explore next?
What is the circuit requirements? The type of kerb, min/max width, length, minimum straight length, something like that
@@26.raffifvashhanatiqi96 Funny you should mention that... 👀
The energy regeneration system or what the seatbelt system looks like
I’d like to see this video finished with what actually happens to the cars after a crash. Are they trashed? Rebuilt? Recycled? Etc. where do the parts that are broken end up? Can we purchase them as souvenirs?
How the podium is set up, and requirements for trophy design
Would be interesting to see how a driver gets out of a red car incident if the car is lying upside down .
Kinda making me interested in watching formula e. Formula 1 and formula e are so different but have good racing
Take a shot every time they say safe or safety.
That safety car look sick!
what are drivers doing if their legs or feet are starting to itch??
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That’s a good question! We’ll ask one of the drivers in London and let you know!!
@@saunderscb nice!
So what happens if the car is on fire, but there's a red light on the car? Would the driver have to wait to be extracted?
No. Ex:Grosjean s Crash.
@@Eyyy579 the battery pack was detached from the monocoque so that wasn't an issue.
Most likely am immediate jump out.
when will we get electric track racing ?
They won’t as FE cars are so slow compared to real racing cars, if people realised how slow they actually were it would lose it’s following.
@@rma_trackdays will porbably get faster tho in like 10 yrs
@@insane_t1605 yep, they have so far to go! The only comparable track really is Mexico City, the Formula E layout is 2.98 km and the fastest lap they did was 1:26. The Formula 1 layout is 4.3 km and the fastest lap time was 1:18!! FE cars are so slow compared to any real racing cars. I just hope it stays where it is and doesn’t force real cars from racing in the future.
As he said it can't be a tank the first thought that came in my mind is tank race.
Lucas di grassi was telling you how to be a real racing driver 🤣🤣🤣
Because these cars are navigating pretty narrow street circuits, I think four-wheel steering and torque vectoring would be a pretty helpful addition. It would also be nice to see four-wheel steering become a lot more commonplace on road cars.
Additionally, I would like to see _regenerative suspension_ happen: basically, the suspension system is coupled with linear alternators and piezoelectric materials so that even the smallest suspension travel from the slightest bump in the road will produce a small bit of extra energy for the battery without the car needing to slow down.
Lastly, something that I want to see on the cars (mostly for aesthetic, but possibly also for function) would be underglow. Name one motorsport where all of the cars have an underglow. That's what I thought.
Damn, a pretty good idea ngl. But honestly would torque vectoring be useful for two wheel drived vehicles tho?
This would probably be only applied in maybe a gen 4 car though, or maybe a gen 3 Evo edition or smth.
@@foxgaming76yt24 I mean, it wouldn't hurt.
@@AmaroqStarwind true. Also good ideas btw. The glowing lights would look amazing on night circuit, like it wouldn't add much weight or use alot electricity. Also the suspension thing might be a good idea, but I just can't think of a situation where that can happen though.
I think the side skirts and covered wheel arches are better than in F1, we wouldn't see another driver going in between the Tyres and causing a crash like at Silverstone 2021 with VER & HAM or many many others, surely it woulnd't be the end of these types of crashes but it would reduce them I think.
The most important thing you have to remeber is to be sad till the end of the day of you crash
Does Bruno have a co-driver in the safety car? And what would happen if something is wrong with the SC while it's out on track? You probably have a back-up car, but who would drive that?
What is the crash at 0:13?
Didn't realize there was that Mini Cooper safety car. All this time I thought it was just the BMW
BMW owns MiNi Cooper
It was the BMW i8 until Rome this season :)
0:12 what race was that
those wheels on the mini looks siick
What happens when there's a red card upside down like how do you go around that procedure
Now I want to see the safety car on a track and see it's lap times.
What happens when the safety car crashes?
formula E at the moment is the only electric car racing that i like
Small question : with the ecological consideration of FE, why not trying to reduce the number of crash, contact ? (remplacement of parts lead to pollution)
How would you do that though? This really is only up to the drivers skill, there isn't much else we can do to reduce contact.
@@foxgaming76yt24 circuit modification, penalties harder, etc.
@@TheMangazixy but that would most likely make it more boring. Stricter penalties will make drivers take risks less. And how would you modify the circuit? The circuits themselves are limited to the design of the roads themselves, so changing the layout of a town or city would be impossible.
@@foxgaming76yt24 it's boring to see so much "crash"...
@@TheMangazixy but when they don't it makes the races so much more interesting. Even if they crashed, at least they attempted it right. Seeing the attempt the daring overtakes are what make Motorsport fun. If you put stricter and stricter regulations, it's all going to end up in drivers all following the exact same drive line with no overtaking just due to fear of receiving penalties if they ever make a mistake.
That dude in the red car that crashes at 4:10 didn't have a halo! Hope he came out of that ok!!? That looked bad when slowed down.
Nice
Damn they finally showed the crash in the Saudi E-Prix
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Whats worrying is how long it takes to put out a fire on an electric car, if the driver gets knocked out there's zero chance it'll be put out in time, i know it's still very possible in a petrol car but there's zero chance with electric
Luckily the cars are designed for that to be avoided at all costs. The extra wall around the battery, anti-intrusion panels and so on.
@@saunderscb yeah but still the second that battery goes up in flames it's not going out for a very long time
@@redbullsauberpetronas If the safety cell around the battery is damaged, to the point where it can catch fire and get enough oxygen to stay alight, that's likely a fatal crash anyway. It would have to be a huge incident.
@@redbullsauberpetronas don't know if I'm wrong about this but they might probably have a mechanism similar to the formula 1 car separating its engine from the driver
I wanted to be a f1 driver but now I want to be a formula e driver
Great detailed explanation. The "crispy bacon" comment not so much ... :^)
Glad you enjoyed. That’s the Sam Bird school of terminology for you!
We will need red car evacuation protocol for road EV cars too. Road side emergency response members will also need to imbibe these measures, as more and more EVs take the road in coming years.
Just finished watching RD 15 of season 9 it had 2 red flags!
Has anyone tried to put Bruno Correia in a FE car to see how he does with a race car?
5:42 Sebastian Vettel is that you? 😔🤔
Yeah, but what happens to the car itself, eg., the batteries? How's that take care of???
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maybe the tracks should be more wider??
This is just my opinion, but these narrow tracks look quite dull..
I didn’t actually know the cars where safe and time to time to time I watch the formula e race’s
It's hard
As each car crashes they should not fix it throw it away and not make a new one until there is none left
Gah those brakes are tiny
the amount of crashes in formula e is the reason it shouldn't move to hydrogen fuel (hydrogen fuel can cause an explosion in a crash)
Why don't you guys just race in normal circuits and bump up power?
what's with the god awful ticking as the driver is explaining the safety features of the car?
Mag Lev Racers
I know this is a whole different sport per say but I'd love to see a video on potential time when Formula E and F1 will equal in terms of weight and speed
There’s so much to it though by design, different tyres, different track types, downforce amounts etc. Even if you matched the power output, speed and weight the base chassis would still be very different. I’m not sure there will ever be a direct comparison that’s accurate unless someone designs two the cars specifically to be compared. One ICE, one Electric.
I don't think we will ever get that. With the Gen 2 FE cars, there's way less downforce and tyre contact patch that makes it slower than an f1 car, and the top speed makes it only equal to a formula 3 car. In terms of weight, the FE car already holds a 903kg weight including the driver and battery while the new 2022 f1 car weighs 960kg including the driver and 100kg max fuel allowance
If they got crashed drivers wont be electricuted......
Hi people from Reddit
I can’t handle watching this which everyone virtu signaling how safe they are w their face diapers on
You should make a offisial FE game. But more realistic than what codemsaters make
🥰🥰
love it? good no... Formula E is so boring to watch on.. Formula E need to run on F1 tracks and have a solution for battery change in the pitstop, not just moving over to another charged car..
its very safe as it cant go so fast
Those cars still go 290
@@ploppyjr2373 I mean with the setup for that
where formula E can improve a lot and that is having proper circuts to race around why race on these boring setup street circuts when you can race on a proper race track?? very dumb if u ask me because the cars can run for many laps now with the new technology battery stuff so why race on street circuts?? they all look the same fences and boring barriers you cant really have favorite corners or a any specialness about these boring circuts
My god I can’t hear a thing he’s saying with that mask on
and f1 crashed today
the fact that Formula E glorifying their crash happy tendency is so fucked up
Where exactly did they do that?
Formula e looks like the cheap version of f1
Formula E has no fucking point, it's literally Formula 1 but every circuit is an international variant of monaco.
Not really.
Pretty cool, but F1 is better and has more action and are lot faster
Hi please pin big fan
Still no.
First pease pin
no.