As a 21 year old that owns a 2014 ES350... I have to say I only like it being FWD for fuel efficiency. I used to own an Integra and loved it so much. I wanted to get out of the cheap sporty world and enter the cheap luxury market because ive grown up. I dont want to go fast. I just want something thats comfortable and also somewhat fun to drive!
This really is an amazing car. You can rotate the car predictably with drop throttle neutral to slight oversteer in corners, has enough power and a great transmission. And will last much longer and be more reliable than most cars. Great review Sarah.
The Lexus is $10k more than a similar Avalon, but it looks like $20k more, inside and out. This is the ES to get! Great job, Lexus! The flaws with this car is Lexus will not allow you to have an F-Sport Hybrid, an AWD Hybrid, or an AWD V6 Bad job, Lexus!
not molesting a f-sport with a hybrid system is a great choice. Hybrid cars in performance do worse in sales. If you are concerned for fuel economy, then you do NOT want a fast car.
I have a 2013 ES350 with only 38k miles. Best car ive ever owned and I’m on #20 since 1981 when i turned 17. LEXUS is by far the best car company, most reliable and luxurious! Reliability and longevity is unparalleled. My ES350 will last for 10+ years since I drive only about 6-8k miles a year and will maintain it. Pearl White (triple coat) metallic exterior is beautiful and glistens in the sun. WOuld love to drive this F Sport version! 302 hp vs my 268 hp would be great too. That interior is amazing, especially those seats
As crazy as it sounds, all rocks in the UK actually weigh 14lbs. Every single one. I definitely tried to flick that fly off my screen before you said it was on your arm.
If I remember correctly, the trunk access lock is so you can store valuables in there when going to Valet or anywhere someone else drives your car. There was an access in the glovebox of my Old ES which disabled the trunk from opening for any reason, and you can lock the glovebox as well.
@@thisismagacountry1318 You will love it ! I bought a used low mileage GS F V8 and it has been fantastic. Best car I have ever owned, including Mercedes and Audi in the past.
I have 2019 ES350 F-Sport and it's a great car to cruise around in. You mentioned the fuel economy is not great, but you should also have mentioned this car runs on regular, not premium, so you are saving 20% on your fuel bill.
Sarah your reviews are always awesome. You end this one saying you like the GS better... I bought a certified pre-owned GS350 F-Sport AWD a little over a year ago, and have shocked all my family and friends who've known me as a Mazda purist for the past 30+ years. I'm in love! It's needed some warranty work, and I've had almost every other Lexus as loaners, the ES being one of them. While it's an overall great car, quieter than my GS, smoother, waaaay more rear legroom, more efficient, and pretty zippy too, it's - as you stated - "wrong-wheel drive". There is just no comparison to the rear-drive based GS. Sadly, the GS is gone now. grrrr But no way does an F-Sport ES fill the big shoes of the GS F-Sport. No way. Thanks again, I always look forward to seeing your reviews!
The common complaint is yes they now share the same 3.5L (2GR-FKS) engine, yes they both run the same 8sp auto. But where the Camry/Avalon fall short is the fact that lesser models (Camry/Avalon) feel like they don't have "all" their power available (thus feeling restricted) where as the Lexus version is so much better, it feels like it has no restrictions power wise, etc. Toyota did this because they can't have the same true performance/programming otherwise ES's wouldn't sell, after driving both back to back, yes they're both decently quick but the ES feels so much more responsive, more top end, less eager to dial back everything, etc. I'd take the Lexus for many reasons including that extra/unique cladding lexus models get over the Camry, interior fit/finish, transmission programming is superior, etc
I came across your channel about a week ago and you are not only entertaining, but so refreshing at what you do. I love the reviews (more Mustang's though LOL) and the videos on your project cars are awesome. You are inspiring to not just girls but to all of us. Thanks for the great reviews, I look forward to all of them.
The fact that you're obsessed with automotive lighting is one of the reasons I like your reviews. Regarding the Lexus ES ... I think it looks amazing, but based on your reactions, the drive clearly doesn't match the looks.
That locking hatch into the trunk/boot is so you can stick your skis through the trunk into the passenger cabin, where they will drip all over the seat and jab you in the elbow when you forget and try to lean on the center armrest. Great review, Sarah!!
Sure, but now that old lady has something REALLY BALLSY to unintendedly accelerate into the storefront of her hair salon at the strip mall. It's always some sort of Toyota. The ES is, after all, a glammed up Camry.
@@thisismagacountry1318 You've been somewhat misinformed. The Toyota New Global Architecture (aka TNGA-K, also GA-K) platform was rolled out to underpin the current generation Camry in 2017, then for the new Avalon, Rav-4 & Lexus ES in '18, the new Highlander in '19 and the new Sienna and resurrected Venza in 2020. I knew the gist of this from reading Car & Driver for years, but I had to look up the specifics on Wikipedia.
You’d be surprised to know the older generation Avalon’s have a cult following on the used Car market which includes young people and first time buyers.
@@Evilj82 yeah not surprised here. My older son's buddy drives his grandma's older Avalon, and all their tall, big football friends fit nicely in there. lol. There was a time my son wanted one, but my old Mazda 6S V65-speed manual was not only free to him but so much more fun to drive! haha
Apparently the ES350 F Sport has a 302HP 3.5L V6 and front-wheel drive and the ES250 F Sport has a 203HP 2.5L I4 and all-wheel drive. Why not all-wheel drive in the ES350? Seems odd to me.
Still is man. Only they take it several steps further these days, sheet metal wise that is. Same engine, transmission, floor pan and other bits even now.
InexplicableBill I know that. However, the ES and Avalon have the same wheelbase and track width as each other. Starting with the previous generation, Lexus decided to base the ES on the Avalon, rather then the Camry. This might have been because the 2005 Avalon outclassed the ES and basically made it obsolete.
I’m with you, Sarah. I love tail light assemblies that have contrasting lenses... nothing is more boring than staring at plain red lenses when stopped at a traffic light. Nice review.
What was that flying spud?! Back to the review. Hot looking ride Sarah; lots like the reviewer. You are a full 3+ penguin bird. These new cars just hit me as information overload!! My ride is a primitive 90 Geo Storm. Hand crank windows too. It may be old like me but both in excellent condition. Still under 90k miles for the car. 💖🎉👏👍🕊
Sarah puts the car in Eco mode while having the Traction Control set to OFF - this is the first time in the history of Toyota these events have occurred.
I do not watch your videos because you sometimes wear short skirts! I like your style, your humor, and the info you present to us. Like you say, your not reading a brochure to us. I can't wait until you review the next Rogue and the next Z car. Stay cool out there!! Chris Farley from Twinsburg, OH
Great review, looks like a lot of fun to drive. The front end/grill is a deal breaker, what an eyesore. Do a video touring around Tuscon ! It would be cool to see you cruising around the hometown
@sarah-n-tuned Anatomically speaking the part of your palm under your thumb is called the thenar eminence and on the opposite side it’s called the hypothenar eminence. Thought you would like to know.
These cars in person are way more stunning then video does them justice.I feel like these cars should have a twin turbo v6 making around 345hp tho.With all that look and prestige they should deff be faster then the TLX and Maxima and Camry.They do take off pretty fast tho Lexus has short gearing .But on the highway they should give these extra oommph..they deff have the looks to pull off way more power and torque
The ES has always been front wheel drive. In fact, it's the only front wheel drive car the Lexus has ever made. For many years it used the same body and platform as the Toyota Camry.
Thank you Sarah for your reviews!! Did you see the new Nissan 400z? V6 turbo and manual transmission!! Im drooling already. Hopefully you'll be able to review that soon..😀
You liked the GS, its too bad no one else did. I also have to say that the F-Sport is not sport at all. the ISF, GSF, RCF, and the canceled LCF were something special. F-Sport is a trim package.
@@eefwonton The Avalon is proper affair for the Toyota line up by style, performance, comfort, and price. The ES has no place between the IS and GS. The price is not right with the performance, comfort, and styling, which, is very similar to the Avalon. The up charge is more to say I have a Lexus then a true current Lexus engineered product. For this particular vehicle the buyer is better off buying the Toyota.
Only because Toyota leaves too much off the table to protect Lexus. With the same sound deadening and engine and transmission programming, the Avalon is a much more attractive car.
@@stevenr6279 By that logic the RX also shouldn't be a Lexus product given that it's front wheel drive in the base model. Lexus offers better materials and noise insulation. The ES is perfect for those who want luxury features and could care less about RWD performance. There's also more legroom in the ES for rear passengers than both the GS and IS. I've driven both and ended up with the ES.
@@jpizel1070 I think Atomic Silver really accentuates the smoked chrome trim and gunmetal wheels on the ES350 F Sport. It's just a great color. It almost looks like liquid metal poured over the ES350.
Yup. Lexus sales have been dipping. I wonder if they've ever ever ever done any consumer focus groups on the grille design and learned how much of an abomination the spindle grille is across their entire lineup.
As a 21 year old that owns a 2014 ES350...
I have to say I only like it being FWD for fuel efficiency. I used to own an Integra and loved it so much. I wanted to get out of the cheap sporty world and enter the cheap luxury market because ive grown up. I dont want to go fast. I just want something thats comfortable and also somewhat fun to drive!
This is a chill everyday car. Nice stereo system with enough horsepower for the highway. Decent interior space. Long lasting V6.
This really is an amazing car. You can rotate the car predictably with drop throttle neutral to slight oversteer in corners, has enough power and a great transmission. And will last much longer and be more reliable than most cars. Great review Sarah.
Looks way better than the previous gen. You should definitely add a 0-60 segment.
The Lexus is $10k more than a similar Avalon, but it looks like $20k more, inside and out. This is the ES to get!
Great job, Lexus!
The flaws with this car is Lexus will not allow you to have an F-Sport Hybrid, an AWD Hybrid, or an AWD V6
Bad job, Lexus!
not molesting a f-sport with a hybrid system is a great choice. Hybrid cars in performance do worse in sales. If you are concerned for fuel economy, then you do NOT want a fast car.
It does have upcoming AWD trims
@@SEVENZEROTWO
Spot on
@@yousef.al-assaf But it's only in a 4-cyl engine that will be available in next year's model. I agree the 3.5L V6 can work with AWD.
@@76carmel
If the IS does idk why the ES doesn't
I have a 2013 ES350 with only 38k miles. Best car ive ever owned and I’m on #20 since 1981 when i turned 17. LEXUS is by far the best car company, most reliable and luxurious! Reliability and longevity is unparalleled. My ES350 will last for 10+ years since I drive only about 6-8k miles a year and will maintain it. Pearl White (triple coat) metallic exterior is beautiful and glistens in the sun. WOuld love to drive this F Sport version! 302 hp vs my 268 hp would be great too. That interior is amazing, especially those seats
As a fellow cargirl, it was so awesome to find your channel, and I love how much you're just a silly car nerd. Yes! Awesome channel! Subscribed
i think your kinda the only female here
@@mitri5389 think again 🤗
As crazy as it sounds, all rocks in the UK actually weigh 14lbs. Every single one.
I definitely tried to flick that fly off my screen before you said it was on your arm.
😂🙌👌
If I remember correctly, the trunk access lock is so you can store valuables in there when going to Valet or anywhere someone else drives your car. There was an access in the glovebox of my Old ES which disabled the trunk from opening for any reason, and you can lock the glovebox as well.
Rather have the G'S even if it has to be used.
Long live the GS.!
I'm using next 2 year's profit for my down payment on the 2020 GS-F when it comes off a single owner lease with low mileage in 2022.
@@thisismagacountry1318 You will love it !
I bought a used low mileage GS F V8 and it has been fantastic. Best car I have ever owned, including Mercedes and Audi in the past.
I love my 2018 GS 350 F sport my change for the 2020.
I have a 2000 GS 300 and it’s doing amazing! Thinking about getting a new GS and customizing my 2000 for car shows
Your humour was absolutely hilarious on this car review.keep up the funnies.
I have 2019 ES350 F-Sport and it's a great car to cruise around in. You mentioned the fuel economy is not great, but you should also have mentioned this car runs on regular, not premium, so you are saving 20% on your fuel bill.
I get 33mpg on the highway. It's great
Sarah your reviews are always awesome. You end this one saying you like the GS better... I bought a certified pre-owned GS350 F-Sport AWD a little over a year ago, and have shocked all my family and friends who've known me as a Mazda purist for the past 30+ years. I'm in love! It's needed some warranty work, and I've had almost every other Lexus as loaners, the ES being one of them. While it's an overall great car, quieter than my GS, smoother, waaaay more rear legroom, more efficient, and pretty zippy too, it's - as you stated - "wrong-wheel drive". There is just no comparison to the rear-drive based GS. Sadly, the GS is gone now. grrrr But no way does an F-Sport ES fill the big shoes of the GS F-Sport. No way. Thanks again, I always look forward to seeing your reviews!
I just liked it because its a Lexus... reason enough... I'll watch the video now.
Yeah not because of any woman wearing short clothes trying to get likes doing a car review.
I liked this video because the TNA and sexual innuendos. The cars are alright. Hot girls that work on them, even better.
YOU'RE RIGHT BEAUTIFUL I HOPE THE LEXUS ES HAS A TRD EXHAUST SYSTEM, WITH MORE HORSEPOWER, it would truly attracts younger buyers by far......
The common complaint is yes they now share the same 3.5L (2GR-FKS) engine, yes they both run the same 8sp auto. But where the Camry/Avalon fall short is the fact that lesser models (Camry/Avalon) feel like they don't have "all" their power available (thus feeling restricted) where as the Lexus version is so much better, it feels like it has no restrictions power wise, etc. Toyota did this because they can't have the same true performance/programming otherwise ES's wouldn't sell, after driving both back to back, yes they're both decently quick but the ES feels so much more responsive, more top end, less eager to dial back everything, etc. I'd take the Lexus for many reasons including that extra/unique cladding lexus models get over the Camry, interior fit/finish, transmission programming is superior, etc
Me: I like Sarah because she knows cars like the palm of her hand.
Sarah's knowledge of her palm: 5:25
:D
I came across your channel about a week ago and you are not only entertaining, but so refreshing at what you do. I love the reviews (more Mustang's though LOL) and the videos on your project cars are awesome. You are inspiring to not just girls but to all of us. Thanks for the great reviews, I look forward to all of them.
The fact that you're obsessed with automotive lighting is one of the reasons I like your reviews. Regarding the Lexus ES ... I think it looks amazing, but based on your reactions, the drive clearly doesn't match the looks.
"Stone" varied quite widely until the Brits declared a stone of wool (14 lbs.) to be the universal stone around 1836.
My stone is better.
That car is Boaring, but with Sarah Magic and Great Editing, it was really a Fun Review! Your Bolstering was Cute and gets a score of 4.3 Race Seat.
That locking hatch into the trunk/boot is so you can stick your skis through the trunk into the passenger cabin, where they will drip all over the seat and jab you in the elbow when you forget and try to lean on the center armrest. Great review, Sarah!!
Sarah's nail color, 4.75 cookies.
Sarah all the cookies
My father has one of these and loves it. It’s rather nice.
My 2003 es300 still runs well😅
When I hear Avalon, I picture a 65 year old lady wearing a mask alone in her car with the windows rolled up.
Sure, but now that old lady has something REALLY BALLSY to unintendedly accelerate into the storefront of her hair salon at the strip mall. It's always some sort of Toyota. The ES is, after all, a glammed up Camry.
@@InexplicableBill WAS a Camry. They've used the Avalon platform since the Avalon refresh in 2013.
@@thisismagacountry1318 You've been somewhat misinformed. The Toyota New Global Architecture (aka TNGA-K, also GA-K) platform was rolled out to underpin the current generation Camry in 2017, then for the new Avalon, Rav-4 & Lexus ES in '18, the new Highlander in '19 and the new Sienna and resurrected Venza in 2020. I knew the gist of this from reading Car & Driver for years, but I had to look up the specifics on Wikipedia.
You’d be surprised to know the older generation Avalon’s have a cult following on the used Car market which includes young people and first time buyers.
@@Evilj82 yeah not surprised here. My older son's buddy drives his grandma's older Avalon, and all their tall, big football friends fit nicely in there. lol. There was a time my son wanted one, but my old Mazda 6S V65-speed manual was not only free to him but so much more fun to drive! haha
Have you ever been pulled over while testing out vehicles? Your humor is still 🔥
HERE for the penguins....and the bolster test
Not gonna find that on Autotrend!
In 1389 a British Royal statute fixed the stone of wool at 14 pounds
Yes, the Sarah seat bolster move. It was great to see small Sarah a few videos ago.
5:35 It’s called the Thenar Eminence.
Apparently the ES350 F Sport has a 302HP 3.5L V6 and front-wheel drive and the ES250 F Sport has a 203HP 2.5L I4 and all-wheel drive. Why not all-wheel drive in the ES350? Seems odd to me.
wow I really can't believe you saw my cooking videos and liked them. Thank you.
Just visited your channel. Amazing, everything looks so delicious. Such class and common sense cooking.
I remember when the ES was a gussied up Camry.
Still is man. Only they take it several steps further these days, sheet metal wise that is. Same engine, transmission, floor pan and other bits even now.
InexplicableBill Actually, now it’s a gussied up Avalon.
@@DLordSadow the Avalon, Rav4, Highlander, ES and Camry are all built on the same TNGA platform these days.
InexplicableBill I know that. However, the ES and Avalon have the same wheelbase and track width as each other. Starting with the previous generation, Lexus decided to base the ES on the Avalon, rather then the Camry. This might have been because the 2005 Avalon outclassed the ES and basically made it obsolete.
@@InexplicableBill Yea but the Avalon is horrendous looking and this new ES is very sleek.
I’m with you, Sarah. I love tail light assemblies that have contrasting lenses... nothing is more boring than staring at plain red lenses when stopped at a traffic light. Nice review.
That Bolstering test though 💚🔥
love your reviews of the many different cars that you test drive
Can you say G forces? Love this car. The TRD exhaust system would be nice with it though.
Another great review and equally great bolster wiggle.
'Fuji Raceway' - style "F". Very cool. Love the information Sarah.
Love your channel and can confirm yes the heel of your hand yes, actual stones where used as a unit of weight!
OMG! I laughed so much my eyes were watering from beginning to end!😂🥰👍
What was that flying spud?! Back to the review. Hot looking ride Sarah; lots like the reviewer. You are a full 3+ penguin bird. These new cars just hit me as information overload!! My ride is a primitive 90 Geo Storm. Hand crank windows too. It may be old like me but both in excellent condition. Still under 90k miles for the car. 💖🎉👏👍🕊
Sarah puts the car in Eco mode while having the Traction Control set to OFF - this is the first time in the history of Toyota these events have occurred.
Oh yea! It’s Sarah time once again and we all cheer! 👏👏👏🔥🔥🔥🍀
Car review full of puns, penguins and science, love it.
i love the penquin in every review
Awesome review I'm not even looking to buy a car I just love your videos
"A big potato with wings" 😂🤣😂🤣😂 thank you for starting off my day with a big laugh. And you do a GREAT JOB reviewing!
I do not watch your videos because you sometimes wear short skirts! I like your style, your humor, and the info you present to us. Like you say, your not reading a brochure to us. I can't wait until you review the next Rogue and the next Z car. Stay cool out there!! Chris Farley from Twinsburg, OH
As always you never disappoint with your car reviews!! Keep up the great work!!
such a great review! so entertaining, informational, and definitely a style all of her own!! No other reviewer like Sarah.
I pooped in the cupholder lol 🐧🐧🐧
Sarah, I can't wait to see 2021 TLX review....
ES350 have BEST INTERIOR Looking...those awesome WOODS! I just never understand why LEXUS don't let us have that AWD on V6 Engine!!! I mean wth!!!!!
It's coming soon
i wish this was RWD with AWD option
Honda never fails to disappoint
Great review, looks like a lot of fun to drive. The front end/grill is a deal breaker, what an eyesore. Do a video touring around Tuscon ! It would be cool to see you cruising around the hometown
Beautiful car I just bought me a lexus ES 350 fsport black line 2021 last Tuesday I love it is so beautiful
The F-Sport logo is a tribute to the Fuji Raceway in Japan. The 'F' is the same.
Compare it with the LC500 tail lights. Cool, huh?
Sarah, if you put the video on speed screen, it would be great. Because we will feel what you do in driving
i drive a 2019 Camry XSE V6 and the only reason i would get the ES 350 F-Sport is so i can have the LFA gauge 😂 but i love both vehicles!
GrEat Review Sarah! I Love Lexus! Wonderful Automobiles! Wonderful Dealer Service!
all my homies love Sarah's Toyota reviews
Gonna have to leave the country to review a sweet ass GR Yaris though
The "Stone" as a unit of measure = Another F'd up system that Metric made better
Am glad we went metric way back when in Canada.
Sarah love y poo ur reviews! Can't stop giggling from beginning to end!
The braking test are the best part of your car reviews! Maybe you can use your actual 🐧’s in your rating instead of the graphics.
Sarah with the new shop you can finally get Teeter. Tot. Going again!
@sarah-n-tuned Anatomically speaking the part of your palm under your thumb is called the thenar eminence and on the opposite side it’s called the hypothenar eminence. Thought you would like to know.
Toyota + Luxury = Lexus 😍
No it = to Toyota. Toyota is the parent company , Lexus is not
Trd Avalon for the win on looks!!
These cars in person are way more stunning then video does them justice.I feel like these cars should have a twin turbo v6 making around 345hp tho.With all that look and prestige they should deff be faster then the TLX and Maxima and Camry.They do take off pretty fast tho Lexus has short gearing .But on the highway they should give these extra oommph..they deff have the looks to pull off way more power and torque
The ES has always been front wheel drive. In fact, it's the only front wheel drive car the Lexus has ever made. For many years it used the same body and platform as the Toyota Camry.
Actually, the Lexus NX is based on the Toyota Rav-4, and the Lexus UX is based on the Toyota CH-R. Both are front-wheel drive or available w/ AWD.
3:47 Ellie Goulding Lights - Bassnectar Remix. Instantly liked the video.
Nice ride but I'd opt for the Avalon. Less attitude at the dealership.
Thank you Sarah for your reviews!!
Did you see the new Nissan 400z?
V6 turbo and manual transmission!! Im drooling already. Hopefully you'll be able to review that soon..😀
Thanks for another brilliantly entertaining review/video.
Sarah will, and always will be I’m sure, be the only other person besides me who will compare a door locking knob to a Diglet...😂
I love your car reviews!
This interior is WAY better than what’s in the IS 🤦🏾♂️
Mark Levinson sound system makes you want to get one alone should be standard on all newer Lexus model probably what beats out the Avalon
You liked the GS, its too bad no one else did. I also have to say that the F-Sport is not sport at all. the ISF, GSF, RCF, and the canceled LCF were something special. F-Sport is a trim package.
That miniature glove box on the driver side is actually for coins!
you do a great job Sarah what do you suggest go for ES ultra premium or the F Sport?
Neither as they are just FWD Camry's underneath.
I never get tired of watching you or you car reviews :-)
Thank You Sarah for the entertaining video as always loved it
I love my 2008 ES ♥️
Love your video. easy to follow and fun.
Liked that oh face during the brake test don't know where that came from but it came 😉
Another great review, Love your randomness :) :)
I would love to see you test drive 2021 Cadillac CT4-V, CT5-V, CT4-Blackwing, and CT5-Blackwing! :-)
I'm not sure what is nicer, 🔥Sarah or the ES?
This car makes the Avalon irrelevant. The interior quality and design is just on another level.
Its the other way around, a front wheel drive car should not be badge as a Lexus.
@@stevenr6279 Why can't it be? The ES has been in Lexus since inception.
@@eefwonton The Avalon is proper affair for the Toyota line up by style, performance, comfort, and price. The ES has no place between the IS and GS. The price is not right with the performance, comfort, and styling, which, is very similar to the Avalon. The up charge is more to say I have a Lexus then a true current Lexus engineered product. For this particular vehicle the buyer is better off buying the Toyota.
Only because Toyota leaves too much off the table to protect Lexus. With the same sound deadening and engine and transmission programming, the Avalon is a much more attractive car.
@@stevenr6279 By that logic the RX also shouldn't be a Lexus product given that it's front wheel drive in the base model. Lexus offers better materials and noise insulation. The ES is perfect for those who want luxury features and could care less about RWD performance. There's also more legroom in the ES for rear passengers than both the GS and IS. I've driven both and ended up with the ES.
This is on the top of my short list in Atomic Silver.
Atomic silver is awesome. My IS350 is that color. It looks great with the red interior.
@@jpizel1070 I think Atomic Silver really accentuates the smoked chrome trim and gunmetal wheels on the ES350 F Sport. It's just a great color. It almost looks like liquid metal poured over the ES350.
Real leather actually ages very nicely and if properly cared for it can last 30+ years
I’d love to see an ES-F
oh yeah
I like the Avalon interior and Lexus es exterior.
Finally you reviewed another Lexus!
Such a beautiful car. I prefer it over the LS
Talking about the lights without throwing up on that grill
Yup. Lexus sales have been dipping. I wonder if they've ever ever ever done any consumer focus groups on the grille design and learned how much of an abomination the spindle grille is across their entire lineup.