Also, in most movies the zombies have visual/audio clues, even the fresh ones: cloudy eyes, yellow teeth, moaning, limping, etc. What if they just look the same (at the start), are silent and move normally, just slower than usual?
@@dimitarivanovski6322 I have no idea what is that (I know Day Z is a videogame), but if it's a gesture I'd say it could be very dangerous. Imagine being killed because you don't know it. Or because you didn't see someone do it at you, so you didn't do it in response. In real life we have a much more limited and imprecise eyesight.
There's a Manga like this. It's cringey because it was written by a hentai artist but the zombies were cool. Totally blind, but they didn't make a sound aside from whatever sound movement makes, and their hearing was OP
I wouldn't be surprised if if there are certain labs in the world where very, very dangerous viruses have been "created" over the years. Just imagine something like the ebola but airborne. That would be basically rip mankind. Of course there would be no zombies from that.
@@huldu 100% agree, hopefully this covid lab release is a wakeup call to virologists that they are playing with fire and could potentially end mankind or transform society to be unrecognizable.
My favorite example is Shaun of the Dead, where the unarmed people have problems dealing, but the moment the military steps in with armor and weapons they curb stomp a whole horde
IRL people aren't over ripe tomatoes, hitting a zombie anywhere wouldn't do much damage, fall traps and explosives are the only defence aganst big hoardes.
@@al-imranadore1182 Rifle bullets can easily rip pieces off people so automatic weapons and shotguns would be quite lethal . However we do know from real life experiences that zombie like behaviors can be quite dangerous to the unprepared and even to handgun armed police . In Florida and elsewhere some persons exhibiting zombie like behavior and cannibalistic traits like face eating were able to shrug off multiple handgun rounds do to insensitivity to pain. They did die after at least 4 gun shots but if there were dozens? Worse UK cops which are mostly unarmed would literally be lunch. These occurrences are generally assumed to have been some sort of designer drug, a new bath slat variant but while highly likely its unproven. If such a thing were to occur as highly contagious virus we'd have serious issues. Consider the damage done to the economy by the reaction to COVID 19 any sizable outbreak would end society rapidly Society would probably just stop. The legitimate risk of marauders being eaten and the fear of contagion would basically mean no food, medicine or anything else. Maybe power and water and some supply distribution could be maintained by the military but at a certain point your soldiers will fear zombification too much to obey orders.
Come in man, start weight lifting, make a diet eventually take some steroids, all that while being able to say something smart occasionally... Worked for me.
When you start talking about guns and ammo, keep in mind that 1/3 of households in the U.S. have at least one gun. It isn't uncommon for gun owners to stock up on ammo when it goes on sale, as well. Police only account for a tiny percentage of the people in the U.S. who would have rapid and easy access to guns.
True about stocking up ammo. I currently have about 170 rounds for my AK and that's a small amount for many gun owners. Also, most gun owners have multiple firearms and could share with unarmed friends/family/neighbors.
@MelloWattz 1/3 have at LEAST one gun. A pretty significant number of gun owners have more than one. I know a fair number of people (particularly hunters) who have dozens. That isn't even taking into account all the guns at stores, warehouses, and other places that aren't people's homes. Once the zombies start killing people, the ratio of guns to people just starts rising dramatically.
I think a lot of things are overlooked when analyzing zombie situations. Armor would greatly decrease the infection rate just like thick clothing. Train to Busan had a scene where the protagonists wrapped newspapers around their arms to reduce the chances of being bitten. On the higher end, it could be like a suit of plate armor with modern materials like polycarbonate for the visor, a gas mask filter to protect from airborne virus, better steels, etc. In between, people could bend sheet metal to cover most of their body, but with exposed joints to reduce complexity and cost. The military also has a lot of things that would heavily sway it into their favor. Zombies can do basically nothing to a helicopter and a helicopter could get somewhat low altitude then fire at a horde with plenty of horizontal distance and right at head height, which would mean a slight downwards angle and lots of headshots. Armored vehicles are also pretty much immune to zombies and likely have rapid fire weapons in fixed mounts. For example, some MBTs have roof machine guns remotely controlled by the commander, which means you could get a similar downwards angle as the helicopter and recoil control is done by the mount. Even if the vehicle runs out of ammo, it could just go and run over the zombies just fine. Airburst explosives would be very effective on hordes because it sends thousands of fragments downwards at their heads.
I recall in a zombie apocalypse MMO that it was mentioned under normal circumstances, biking armor to protect from abrasions and scratches would be enough, it’s just, well. Tanks, and spitter boys, and super strength and all that.
@@kielbasamage Acid is actually a lot weaker than most people think. It'd really be quite simple to have bases to neutralize the acid (baking soda/ powder is most available to average people) or simply blast it off with something like a fire truck. Then there's the challenge of actually having the spit hit the target. I doubt zombies would be able to hit a helicopter that is several hundred feet up, while the helicopter could be very effective at that distance. Large tough zombies with super strength still don't sound particularly dangerous. Plenty of people hunt elephants with rifles just fine. Something like a mounted heavy machine gun firing rounds like .50 BMG or 12.7mm for the Russians should kill the tanky zombie just fine from a safe distance. If that fails somehow, then just throw explosives at it. Planes and helicopters can have dozens of explosive rockets in just a few rocket pods, each would kill the zombie, or damage it's limbs enough to neutralize it. It's very silly that in most depictions of zombies that the military gets rolled over when some ragtag survivors are able to fight their way through loads of zombies. If the zombies are as weak as they're typically depicted, where survivors can kill them, the military would have no problem. If the zombies were dangerous enough to wipe out the military, then the survivors wouldn't last long. It's just plot armor for the sake of the story.
@@brianwyters2150 It should also be mentioned that even the most potent acids take several minutes to melt a chicken's drumstick. Chemical burns are pretty bad and even worse if it gets in your eyes. But I agree that acid's lethality gets overplayed way too much. In reality, patient 0 would easily be subdued before any zombie outbreak occurs. Police and paramedics have dealt with some crazy drug induced cannibalism before just fine. Usually the argument is when there is a hoard of zombies but how does it even get to that point? If it did, the civilian population and police would struggle to contain the outbreak BUT a lockdown would basically halt the outbreak. But I guess COVID is a perfect example of how most countries fail to enforce a lockdown. If we get the military involved, the situation resolves itself instantly.
Those modern shark suits would be the best armor I can think of. It would offer great protection but still be light and flexible enough to wear for long periods. The problem would be availability or lack thereof.
You had a lot of fun with this video. Me, I'd try to hold down until the initial panic is done and then try to get into the countryside or find a boat.
Basically the machete and M1 carbine survival thing again -take a PCC[pistol calibre Carbine] share the magazine with your pistol instead- -glock is shit but definitely more commonly available everywhere- -need a hatchet than a machete if you're in northern region- -the Hypothermia will kill you before the Z word- #Survival101 #ZWord
@@al-imranadore1182 need lubrication regularly keeping it reliable And machete is just a thin blade And solo purpose is for cleaning the bushes Not as mutil task as a crowbar or a hatchet
Another thing many people forget to consider is that there's different interpretations of zombies, like Left 4 Dead for example, where rather than being reanimated corpses, they're actually living people, mutated by disease, much like the scenario he mentioned at the end of the video.
What plot hole I find hard to ignore in the classic Zombie movies is, that when a Zombie attacks a human, there only every are three outcomes: 1. Zombie fails, gets killed, doesn't bite anyone 2. Zombie bites, but gets killed. The bitten dumdum hides his infection until he himself is a zombie. 3. Zombie totally wins and devours its victim. The point is, in case 1 we have zero remaining Zombies and in case 2 and 3 we have one remaining zombie. There is no way for the Zombie population to increase. A Zombie does not just bite a dude and then move on, unless it sees more survivors, that it attacks, in which case it will then be killed (I guess in theory it could run around, biting multiple people and then dying but I've never seen this happening in any movie).
This assumes zombies feel a desire to consume. Most organisms that require a host only focus solely on "reproduction" aka spreading as much as possible. In both viruses and the real world creepy fungus scenario, there would be no reason for zombies to do anything EXCEPT infect as many other hosts as possible.
This would only be the case if the only transmission of the "Zombieness" is via bites. If it has alternate vectors (Which it would require to exist in the first place. It has to come from SOMEWHERE before there exists a zombie to bite someone) then it can continue to spread, with the general existence of zombies being this at best 1v1 exchange. Though, you can't disregard the potential for a dead zombie to be feasted upon by animals, thus infecting the animals (Depending on how the zombiness works, if animals can carry/become zombies)
Yeah, I really just base this of the "X of the Living dead" series of movies. Possibly some others movies I don't remember that well. There definitely are versions where this the zombies behave somewhat differently and this is not a problem.
That whole thing about crossfit: While it IS true that someone doing crossfit is prolly in better shape than someone doing nothing: 1. It's very easy to become a crossfit trainer and doesn't require NEAR the training that becoming a certified personal trainer does and because of that combined with crossfit WOD's not being designed for the beginner, many people have been injured in the process of wanting to get healthier and a few have even died from rabdomialysis, when is when you break down your muscles so much they tear open releasing the proteins within into bloodstream (something that is extremely toxic and sometimes fatal). 2. On top of the chance of injury, it's been proven that those that try to work on everything at once like crossfit does (strength, muscle size, endurance and cardio) don't get results NEARLY as fast as those that just do one type of workup at a time and switch focuses everything 3 months or so.
To the wear and tear point I would like to add with our modern diet millions of humans have terrible teeth(I had a friend chip his tooth on a soft sandwich and he didn't have visible cavities and you could tell he brushed) so a couple chomps on a leather or winter jacket full force could leave tons of zombies basically toothless, sure the broken teeth will be sharper but they won't last. Add in that if they don't have the physical restraint that the brain puts on our muscles they could theoretically break their own jaws limiting any bite after that
I'd like to mention that zombies need to eat aswell if we're going with the "bite to infect" zombies the zombies are people who got infected but that doesn't stop their need to consume nutrients in some shape or form even though they won't realize it themselves which means they all will start to starve eventually unless they actually go seek out food (and I think zombies would seek out other humans not to eat but spread the infection further)
>Zombie outbreak starts in a city in Texas. >Zombie stumbles out into square and tries to bite people >Zombie is riddled with lead and collapses. >Texans go up and kick the Zombie >Texans get infected >Crowd descends into shooting eachother.
Hi Skall, another horrifying scenario would be a desease which makes any infected infectious after minutes, shows no signs of the desease for a year or so and then turns them...
I always said that Canada's harsh climate was a factor in maintaining its peace throughout history (no one wants to bother invading such a cold dang place). Turns out that it might save us from zombies as well. Nice !
In the World War Z books they noticed that as well. It ended with thousands of people frozen to death, the environment completely screwed and the survivors reduced to cannibalism, because they didn’t get any instructions beyond “Zombinis freeze, head as far north as you can and keep going.”
@@kielbasamage And then, as told by Native American legends, cannibalism turns the few survivors into Wendigos! And then we're all even more screwed. XD
Im sure calling them zombies is inappropriate. How about "humans that were once living and now have rotten flesh and the desire to eat brains". That should please the mob.
Or people would say it’s all a hoax/conspiracy to attack the people fighting the zombies, people would demand they have the right to get bitten, people would completely ignore the zombies and instead use it as an excuse to enact vendettas against people…and a lot of people would become super violent because someone else has all the food/medical supplies/and a lot of gunfire in America
Depends, is the cause localized so people and governments throughout the world have time to prepare or is the cause administered as something else globally and turns people all over the world simultaneously?
I'd like to see a new iteration of zombies that uses neuropsychological explanations to make them terrifying. Maybe a pharmaceutical company produces a new drug and it causes a contagious parasite to appear. Eats the PFC, eats the frontal lobe, amps up the amygdala and hypothalamus, causes psychotic aggressive delusions. Turns people into vicious animalistic brawlers that see anyone living and uninfected into immense threats and only leaves in-tact the "fight" response. Nice video btw
The worst scenario I have ever heard of would be biologically mediated zombies and the infection jumping species. Hordes of zombie rodents is a terrifying thought
I'd say that the chrysillid from the XCOM games would be a somewhat "plausible" way of getting, but I think that Minecraft's would be easier to deal with. The difference is quite easy to see. XCOM: Enemy Unknown / Within - If a chrysillid (I'm probably butchering the name of this thing) kills a target directly, then the corpse will turn into a zombie, which will then hatch into a new chrysillid three turns after it rises, allowing exponential growth. Ironically enough, if a survivor of a chrysilid gets killed by any means other then the claws directly (poison, plasma rifle, sectopod, etc), then it won't turn into a zombie. Minecraft - If a zombie kills you, then you turn into a zombie. Thankfully, the zombies (barring a variant, the husk) burn in the daylight, making avoiding them a matter of surviving the night. If you decide to use the Counter:Side interpretation, then a corrupted object (CS's version of zombies) will kill you, but won't spread an infection. Living in an area that's under the Counterside effect though, is a different story. Treat it like you would radiation. In other words, stay away entirely.
Have you read the Zombie Survival Guide and/or World War Z? The two books do rather well at the broad strokes of a believable world outbreak. Real shame about the movie. The zeds in the books don't even run lol
@Algernon Papadopoulos Oh I know why we got what we got. They missed the point of the book and wasted the rights to it. It's a fine zombie film on it's own but it's an insult to one of my favourite books growing up. It was a series of the most dramatic events from a years long war and they somehow missed the opportunity to show how dramatic those events could be. Like the writers couldn't frame it? Like they haven't heard the word 'flashback' before? I just hope reboot culture picks it up. Everyone's too busy going "ooh regular zombies are overdone let's make our own thing" to realise their OC zombies are the overdone thing and the classic zombie has been ignored for a long time now. Edit: Forgive the rambling, I'm merely lamenting missed potential.
@@korstmahler Exactly. I dont hate that movie because it was a bad movie. I hate it because it was a soulless cash grab that bastardized my favorite zombie IP.
@Algernon Papadopoulos Amen to that, the horror of Zombies is a slow creeping dread akin to being stranded on a dessert island. Zombies are like water; there's always more to wade through.
@@williamjenkins4913 Here here! I actually really enjoyed the movie and I think it really upped the danger of zombies. But I CANNOT forgive that they used the title "WWZ". Had they picked any other title other than the book then I would be way less angrier
3:00 I do not think people would be nearly as dismissive to an actual zombie virus vs something that turned out to be lesser then a typical flu season :/ dude
Here in Arizona we bundle up when the temperature drops below 70 and we got snakes, scorpions, cactus, and sunburns to deal with so exposed skin is usually a bad idea
Something I like about the Left 4 Dead universe is the varying effects the rapid mutation of the Green Flu has on its hosts. The most dangerous mutation is not the one that makes Special Infected such as the Tank, Spitter, Boomer, or Witch; but it's the one that makes silent killers: the Carriers, which the original four Survivors happen to be. Outside of any injuries sustained during their escape, Carriers appear to be just normal, healthy people. No rabid behaviors, no drastic transformations, no detectable symptoms, but they asymptomatically carry the Green Flu like Mary Mallon carried typhoid. This makes Carriers the most dangerous vector for the virus, because while the other Infected expire before getting too far into a sparsely-populated rural area (seriously, wait around a bit and watch the zombies, they die after a while if you don't disturb them. Really nice attention to detail by Valve), a few Carriers could be the doom of any dense survivor camp they visit. This condition is especially insidious during first aid, in which if either party is a Carrier, then they will more than likely end up infecting the other.
Another problem is that some zombies suddenly have improved hearing and smell, it's not like a virus could just "unlock magic secret powers", we don't have the physical structure to do such things, we can't just smell things from 100m or hear any small noise from far away, we don't have the proper ear or nose to do such things, and even if they weren't already dead, they still could die or become immobile by acting like they do, they would break their legs and tendons in the first week, and wouldn't be able to get as much energy as us by eating trash and blood, by the second week they would be lying on the ground in a perpetual agony
The last of us infection would be the worst. Infection via spores in the air, and it doesn’t kill the host. The host loses control but the fungus keeps the bodies power, allowing for full power attacks and sprinting (not running, full out sprinting). Given time, they grow hard fungal armor that is resistant to bullets and even Evolve bile sacs and such that they can use/throw as weapons to spread infection. And to top it off, its based off of a real life fungus. The cordyceps fungus which basically does exactly what I described but to bugs.
what makes the last of us zombies even worst is that the first infected were from contaminated produce not bites, so if you drink coffee or eat chocolate, avocado, pineapple etc, then you are one of the first infected... damn id be screwed.
Imagine being on an oil rig during the last scenario, after 3 months of survival, you decide to fish in a medium sized boat, you fish for two hours and, suddenly, a blue whale jumps out of the water and sneezes all over you. Your first thought is "Oh shit!", followed by "I'm covered in boogers,!"
There is of course the aspect of one of the infected being in base camp. Even if stringent inspection efforts are mandatory in regards to bite and scratches there is still the possibility of it being airborne local to zombie population in zone then it's a matter of air filtration vs viral particles per volume of air vs maintenance of said filters for survival.
I’ve been preparing for the zombie apocalypse for years and I can 100% say without a doubt that if zombies ever came I would be the most badass. Coolest looking…. Corpse on the street
My plus side on Z Days is no more taxes. My actual fantasy is having a castle in Left 4 Dead 💀 I figured if we're gonna be all living in the dark ages 🏰
I would definitely be one of those worldbuilding zombies with a couple empty magazine pouches, an empty knife scabbard and probably a screwdriver stuck in my neck
This evening there was a incident on a county lane by were I live I live in a village involving a bus anyway paramedics turned up along with the police and a ambulance. So me and my six year grandson were watching by my front door but we could not see what was going on so after a while I said to him it was the start of the zombie apocalypse and they were coming across the farmers field to get us he had a look of horror on his face and run in to my house. I said to him oh you big girl he said to me no granddad I was going to get your crossbow. Haha yeah right son I believe you. I could not stop laughing my daughter and son in law were not amused
The Night Of The Living Dead (1990) is the best example of what would happen if a zombie outbreak started in America. That movie was way ahead of its time. Pardon my english.
To be honest I think the worst-case scenario would be the Trioxin zombies from Return of the Living Dead. It starts out an air born infection via chemical transmission, the transformation length varies depending on whether you're living or dead at the time of contact. Living creatures (NOTE: IT IS NOT LIMITED TO HUMANS!! It infects any and all animals, maybe even plants too) will take a few hours (2-8 hours, time is hard to judge in a movie) while the dead are almost instantly revived. After the initial airborne phase, the infection becomes transmissible through contact, a bite will turn a person within the hour while having a zombie grab your arm for a minute will cause you to turn over the course of several hours. Literally just touching one of the infected for long enough will infect you. Death of course causes reanimation within minutes. Here's the kicker, depending on how degraded the zombie is determines how fast it moves. They can be fast or slow, depending basically on how much of the zombie is still there. Here's the worst part though. They are virtually impossible to kill. Literally, head shots don't work, decapitation only blinds them, even total dismemberment only means that you have animated pieces of a zombie instead of a whole zombie. The only way to kill them is through total destruction of the body at the molecular level. What's worse is that burning them resets the infection to the airborne stage again, unless you burn them in an enclosed system, with no escape for the exhaust. So literally nukes would actually exacerbate the situation. Another hiccup is that trioxin zombies retain their intelligence, even after death. So, with all this in mind, the fact that the zombies are fast, can infect without needing to wound, are ridiculously hard to kill, and the most efficient ways to kill them can make the situation worse, on top of the fact that the transformation can be fast AND infection can be stealthy, I gotta say this would have to be the worst scenario.
Another thing is that the brain of a person limits muscle use. In the case of resi or last of us, the brain is damaged or subdued to the point where that strength limitation is turned off, making for stronger zombies
Skallagrim, while you have points with Firearms etc. It seems we are taking into account following rules from Geneva and Hague Conventions. I'm sure survivors hell even the government would start to use tactics that are banned in war. Anything to maximize destruction and eliminate transmission methods. Napalm etc. Also depending on the time of year and location, I don't know how much heat a zombie's body can produce, but if it isn't producing enough heat it can freeze over night and they may or may not stop zombification alone. I don't know if when they defrost if they come back or not.
I think the best way for dealing with zombies goes as follows: 1: At all times, evade rather than engage unless completely necessary, drawing zombies away from you also counts as evading. Going around the threat lowers the chances of getting injured and potentially drawing more to your location and also saves precious time and resources. 2: Wear relatively light but tough to tear clothing, motorcycle equipment and denim fabrics are ideal. With light clothing, you won't get fatigued as quickly, you'll be able to move faster and more quietly (important) and if zombies can't actually break the skin and exchange bodily fluids, you're pretty much safe. 3: If you are going to engage zombies, use a blunt weapon with a reasonable amount of reach and weight. Forget aiming for the centre of mass, aim for the head and destroy the brain. Also blunt weapons will be easier to maintain and last longer than sharp ones. Forget using firearms, they're loud, require maintenance and ammunition and unless you have atleast professional training, you're unlikely to hit anything that matters. 4: If you have a fortified area with a stockpile of necessary supplies, only go out if you need to get something and keep all entrances closed tight even if you're leaving for just a few minutes. The whole point of having somewhere safe to stay is keeping the threat out. Also if you're going to burn the bodies of zombies you have killed (also important, rotting flesh can cause various diseases and is generally unpleasant to be around), make sure you do it somewhere away from your base but still easy enough to get to if you know the area.
A self care zombie! We need this. It doesn't care about brains. It cares about hair products, skin care, and nail polish. It accidentally spreads as people are freaking out, between it and the care products. 🤣
High calibres that transfer most of its projectile energy quickly would be the most efficient imo (7.62x39 for an instance). Soft core, no jacket/hollow points or fragmentations/HE rounds.
If I saw a horde of zombies, and wasn't already one myself, I would poke their king with a shard of obsidian, thus causing the entire horde to promptly shatter.
I’d love to see a modern movie use the magical undeath trope, we see it allot in dnd. But I’d love to see a movie use the idea, some ancient curse, a lich, or something else magical causing the undeath. It would be interesting to see how that would be depicted in film, last time I remember a movie using magical undead was from Evil Dead, but think about how terrifying magical undead are. They never get tired, always move, some are intelligent enough to hunt humans down like pack animals. It would make the spread of undeath allot more terrifying if the undead were capable of somewhat intelligent thought to use to kill more humans
It's not just a fun horror movie trope. Zombies are a slur against the common person. ""We are the dead," he said. "We are the dead," echoed Julia dutifully. "You are the dead," said an iron voice behind them." -Orwell, 1984
I'm a little late to the party but I wanted to mention that the US government has run a scenario to see how well it would cope with a zombie incursion. It's called CONPLAN 8888 and was an exercise done to practice against bioterrorism. You should look it up, they actually talk about the various kinds of zombies that could exist (only one of which actually being real) and how best to combat them from a strategic standpoint. Also, the idea of a zoonotic zombie virus that infects all mammals, yeah, no thank you. That would be the worst case scenario.
I am working on a zombie story fan story for one manga series. Zombies are more of a fungal version and never were considered a big threat as it is Not so easy to spread the fungi, just easy enough that it needs to be kept in check. However, some vampires with nanotech figured out that zombies can be hardwired.. and with certain battle computers... zombies with guns and other weapons.... uh oh....
i always thought of a sharkbite proof suit. If shark teeth dont cut it zombies wont either. also some kind of treadmill in front of my fence. zombies try to reach my fence and get pushed just back again.
Yeah, but is the zombie virus transmissible if i am sitting down to eat at a resturant or gathering in groups of less than 6? How effective is toilet paper armor?
Another thing to consider is that regular people will try to combat the zombies in their daily lives for example I can imagine that people that have at least one case of the virus in their city will minimize the time they are at of the house, out of the car, start wearing more protective clothing and even carrying things such as heavy walking sticks/hammers, especially if we are taking about slow moving zombies
The Cataclysm dda zombies are probably most dangerous and the most impossible to contain. Because the bodys must be destroyed in a way that prevents them from getting back up.
Believe it or not there's a "zombie" military training exercise that's only use for an actual outbreak is the rage type. A couple of things that weren't mentioned in the video that could have an effect if the zombie outbreak occurred are things like the group of people with weapon training including armed gangs/other criminals, retired military/police, hunters, and gun enthusiasts. All are people that have a slightly better chance than average citizen using improvised weapons and or limited to no training. The next thing to affect an outbreak is mostly restricted to a blood/bodily fluid transmission and that is even at range blood splatter can land on you or an ally with melee much more likely to lead to infection not even from an open wound or bite. The last bit is how a zombie can be dangerous after it is killed by simply causing a survivor to fall/stumble (if the blood transmission counts toward infection then it would be difficult to avoid something from getting to your mouth because of automatic reflex beyond a hazmat suit)
I think the Rage virus in 28 days Later might not be as bad in reality compared to the movie because if the infected have an uncontrollable urge to kill anything that moves, they would most likely attack each other as much as the uninfected & only infected injured would turn, a dead person wouldn't. Also they would be out in the open rather than hiding or trying to escape, so after the initial outbreak, they would mostly be targeting each other, which would bring the overall number of zombies down quite rapidly.
> Zombie infection spreads on the East Coast > Florida eradicates all threats from spreading south into the state That feeling when Florida, home of the infamous bath salts homeless man face eater incident, is one of the safest spots in the US during a zombie apocalypse.
Let's all take a sec to just remember this stuff is for fun, and as it stands, there is no 100% perfectly scientific way to measure such a hypothetical. But gosh darn, does it make for some really good storytelling and fun speculations!
Little sidenote, it was mostly the tv show of TWD that handled heads being sponges really badly, in the comic I dont remember them being that much of an easy target (in comparison of course)
A zombie apocalypse, in which the zombies fall apart over time. They start as fresh corpses, after few weeks they are nearly only skeletons and after few months all zombies are gone, only bones left on the ground. Also interesting idea, but probably to easy for the survivors xD.
... So if their regenerative abilities is some how effected. For fairness, lets say the it effects it in a way that makes the regenerative abilities more reactive to shots, like their wounds close of fairly quick, blood gets redirected though they won't regrow limbs and organs etc. This may allow them to move better in extreme weathers etc.
How about the zombies being eaten/attacked by animals? Unless animals have an aversion to undead flesh (like in A Song of Ice and Fire) a not insignificant amount of zombies would be at the very least taken out of action by animals.
on the topic of police in the video, Law Enforcement is not trained to aim for the head, they are taught to go center of mass and take down by volley fire until a dangerous target is neutralized, so in a situation where head shots are mandatory for putting down the undead, that percentage within law enforcement would be more on a person to person basis. the true saviors in a zombie apocalypse are the Competition handgun shooters, even amatures at it who compete will have a larger advantage over most in dealing with shooting a target the size of a melon at several feet. Remember folks guns aren't like in video games, the small subtle shakes of your hand mean a world of difference between hitting your target and hitting a unintended target hundreds of yards behind it.
Your "worst case scenario" case sounds almost identical to project zomboid Airborne infection gets most people, but a few have a genetic resistance to the virus, so they can only be infected by fluid exchange
I started making my own shotgun slugs/reloads.and stored up food and supplies. I sharp hatchet 🪓 with a hammer on it. Bowie Knife and side arm. Zombies survival starter kit.
I've never understood why people feel the need to specify the 'type' of zombies, runners or not, etc. No matter if they're infected or undead, you would think they would be able to do what ever the host human could at first and that ability would deteriorate over time. A fresh zombie could probably run and its senses should be pretty much in tact - leave him out in the sun for a few days and the corneas get scratched and the limbs broken, sinuses dry up and tendons shorten? It makes the most sense that most would start as rage zombies and deteriorate to Romero type.
There are several very good non-American zombie movies. Aside from 'Shaun of the Dead', I enjoyed 'Rammbock', which takes place in Germany, 'The Horde' which is a French production and pretty much off the shelf, and the tour de force, 'Train to Busan', an excellent movie with really good acting and a clever scenario. I have also seen an Italian zombie movie that was well done on a low budget with few actors. I cannot remember the name of it, though. Some people also include the 'Dead Snow' movies, but those aren't really zombie apocalypse movies. More in line with old-time monster movies. Honorable mention goes to 'Fido'. (A Boy and his Zombie could also have been the title.)
In a zombie apocalypse, the best places to be are near Shad, Jorg Sparve, the Metatron, Matt Easton, Skallagrim, Matt of Demo Ranch, Edward Sarkissian, and Gun Jesus. Why? Because they're all armed to the teeth. Honorable mentions go to Officer Greg of Taoflaedermaus and Kirsten Joy Weiss becuase even though they may not be quite as well armed as the people mentioned above, they both really good shots.
@@devil5cry Yeah, I forgot about Tod's workshop. That would definitley be a great place to set up a base/camp at if you live in the UK. It's not only well equipped with all kinds of melee weapons, you also have someone, in the form of Tod himself, and the facilities to make more weapons. At least until you run out out raw metal, but I imagine that Tod could probably work with any scrap metal that could be scrounged.
I work for a LEO agency. I would not count on cops are being very useful, even if their accuracy was significantly higher. I once walked in on a bunch of them talking about their plan for a zombie outbreak. They decided to hole up in the jail. A defensible position, but without a food supply, an armory, and only two ways out that were easily blockaded from the outside... I though of a base decision tree some time ago for a zombie outbreak: Is the outbreak very recent? No -> Suicide. Are the zombies fast? Yes -> Suicide Do animals get zombified? Yes -> Suicide Are the zombies semi-intelligent? Yes -> Suicide If It's a recent outbreak of slow, stupid, human-only zombies, then gather your friends with low-tech survival skills and head for the hills to wait it out, while Nature eats all the mobile carrion.
Also, in most movies the zombies have visual/audio clues, even the fresh ones: cloudy eyes, yellow teeth, moaning, limping, etc. What if they just look the same (at the start), are silent and move normally, just slower than usual?
I'm an elderly cripple and already have ALL of those clues.
@@comradebork Patient zero spotted!
In such case it becomes culturally acceptable to do the DayZ friend-check wiggle. Silent and efficient.
@@dimitarivanovski6322 I have no idea what is that (I know Day Z is a videogame), but if it's a gesture I'd say it could be very dangerous. Imagine being killed because you don't know it. Or because you didn't see someone do it at you, so you didn't do it in response. In real life we have a much more limited and imprecise eyesight.
There's a Manga like this. It's cringey because it was written by a hentai artist but the zombies were cool. Totally blind, but they didn't make a sound aside from whatever sound movement makes, and their hearing was OP
The most plausible type of zombie, aside from fungal like you said, I think would be a variant of rabies or something like we see in 28 days later.
@Jo Jo yea theyre fast and angry, think rabid dog but people. I thought 28 days later was a good movie, 28 weeks later wasn't as good imo
@Jo Jo
There’s a game too
Left 4 Dead and I think that new game Back 4 Blood counts too
The movie Quarantine/REC also had a variant of rabies. Good movie, worth watching.
I wouldn't be surprised if if there are certain labs in the world where very, very dangerous viruses have been "created" over the years. Just imagine something like the ebola but airborne. That would be basically rip mankind. Of course there would be no zombies from that.
@@huldu 100% agree, hopefully this covid lab release is a wakeup call to virologists that they are playing with fire and could potentially end mankind or transform society to be unrecognizable.
My favorite example is Shaun of the Dead, where the unarmed people have problems dealing, but the moment the military steps in with armor and weapons they curb stomp a whole horde
Yeah just imagine an abrams with its 4 machine gun setup
IRL people aren't over ripe tomatoes, hitting a zombie anywhere wouldn't do much damage, fall traps and explosives are the only defence aganst big hoardes.
@@al-imranadore1182 Rifle bullets can easily rip pieces off people so automatic weapons and shotguns would be quite lethal . However we do know from real life experiences that zombie like behaviors can be quite dangerous to the unprepared and even to handgun armed police . In Florida and elsewhere some persons exhibiting zombie like behavior and cannibalistic traits like face eating were able to shrug off multiple handgun rounds do to insensitivity to pain.
They did die after at least 4 gun shots but if there were dozens? Worse UK cops which are mostly unarmed would literally be lunch.
These occurrences are generally assumed to have been some sort of designer drug, a new bath slat variant but while highly likely its unproven. If such a thing were to occur as highly contagious virus we'd have serious issues. Consider the damage done to the economy by the reaction to COVID 19 any sizable outbreak would end society rapidly Society would probably just stop. The legitimate risk of marauders being eaten and the fear of contagion would basically mean no food, medicine or anything else.
Maybe power and water and some supply distribution could be maintained by the military but at a certain point your soldiers will fear zombification too much to obey orders.
@@al-imranadore1182 I mean... 50 caliber machine guns turn people to pulp remarkably quickly. And they’ve got plenty of ammo...
Yeah. Too bad drones nowadays can only at most manage to hit 12 kids.
A Zombie Outbreak is my only chance to impress pretty girls using my Leon Kennedy Rocket Launcher skills against monsters.
Come in man, start weight lifting, make a diet eventually take some steroids, all that while being able to say something smart occasionally... Worked for me.
It'll give me more purpose than work, sleep, work, sleep, work, sleep.
Rinse and repeat.
I'd say I would punch boulders in lava field but
@@christopherbarbosa321 Why take steroids haha
@@sheevinopalpatino4782 well maybe Skip that part, 😂
When you start talking about guns and ammo, keep in mind that 1/3 of households in the U.S. have at least one gun. It isn't uncommon for gun owners to stock up on ammo when it goes on sale, as well. Police only account for a tiny percentage of the people in the U.S. who would have rapid and easy access to guns.
True about stocking up ammo. I currently have about 170 rounds for my AK and that's a small amount for many gun owners. Also, most gun owners have multiple firearms and could share with unarmed friends/family/neighbors.
@@overlorddante 170 rounds isn't even a fun day at the range!
@@Lyulfr exactly my point.
@MelloWattz 1/3 have at LEAST one gun. A pretty significant number of gun owners have more than one. I know a fair number of people (particularly hunters) who have dozens. That isn't even taking into account all the guns at stores, warehouses, and other places that aren't people's homes. Once the zombies start killing people, the ratio of guns to people just starts rising dramatically.
I think a lot of things are overlooked when analyzing zombie situations.
Armor would greatly decrease the infection rate just like thick clothing. Train to Busan had a scene where the protagonists wrapped newspapers around their arms to reduce the chances of being bitten. On the higher end, it could be like a suit of plate armor with modern materials like polycarbonate for the visor, a gas mask filter to protect from airborne virus, better steels, etc. In between, people could bend sheet metal to cover most of their body, but with exposed joints to reduce complexity and cost.
The military also has a lot of things that would heavily sway it into their favor. Zombies can do basically nothing to a helicopter and a helicopter could get somewhat low altitude then fire at a horde with plenty of horizontal distance and right at head height, which would mean a slight downwards angle and lots of headshots. Armored vehicles are also pretty much immune to zombies and likely have rapid fire weapons in fixed mounts. For example, some MBTs have roof machine guns remotely controlled by the commander, which means you could get a similar downwards angle as the helicopter and recoil control is done by the mount. Even if the vehicle runs out of ammo, it could just go and run over the zombies just fine. Airburst explosives would be very effective on hordes because it sends thousands of fragments downwards at their heads.
Paintball armour, Bike gear etc would all be easy to obtain and effective.
I recall in a zombie apocalypse MMO that it was mentioned under normal circumstances, biking armor to protect from abrasions and scratches would be enough, it’s just, well. Tanks, and spitter boys, and super strength and all that.
@@kielbasamage Acid is actually a lot weaker than most people think. It'd really be quite simple to have bases to neutralize the acid (baking soda/ powder is most available to average people) or simply blast it off with something like a fire truck. Then there's the challenge of actually having the spit hit the target. I doubt zombies would be able to hit a helicopter that is several hundred feet up, while the helicopter could be very effective at that distance.
Large tough zombies with super strength still don't sound particularly dangerous. Plenty of people hunt elephants with rifles just fine. Something like a mounted heavy machine gun firing rounds like .50 BMG or 12.7mm for the Russians should kill the tanky zombie just fine from a safe distance. If that fails somehow, then just throw explosives at it. Planes and helicopters can have dozens of explosive rockets in just a few rocket pods, each would kill the zombie, or damage it's limbs enough to neutralize it.
It's very silly that in most depictions of zombies that the military gets rolled over when some ragtag survivors are able to fight their way through loads of zombies. If the zombies are as weak as they're typically depicted, where survivors can kill them, the military would have no problem. If the zombies were dangerous enough to wipe out the military, then the survivors wouldn't last long. It's just plot armor for the sake of the story.
@@brianwyters2150 It should also be mentioned that even the most potent acids take several minutes to melt a chicken's drumstick. Chemical burns are pretty bad and even worse if it gets in your eyes. But I agree that acid's lethality gets overplayed way too much.
In reality, patient 0 would easily be subdued before any zombie outbreak occurs. Police and paramedics have dealt with some crazy drug induced cannibalism before just fine. Usually the argument is when there is a hoard of zombies but how does it even get to that point? If it did, the civilian population and police would struggle to contain the outbreak BUT a lockdown would basically halt the outbreak. But I guess COVID is a perfect example of how most countries fail to enforce a lockdown.
If we get the military involved, the situation resolves itself instantly.
Those modern shark suits would be the best armor I can think of. It would offer great protection but still be light and flexible enough to wear for long periods. The problem would be availability or lack thereof.
You had a lot of fun with this video.
Me, I'd try to hold down until the initial panic is done and then try to get into the countryside or find a boat.
So the plot of 2005s Dawn of the Dead remake
You Sir, remind me of Kenny from Telltale The Walking Dead game season 1.
Basically the machete and M1 carbine survival thing again
-take a PCC[pistol calibre Carbine] share the magazine with your pistol instead-
-glock is shit but definitely more commonly available everywhere-
-need a hatchet than a machete if you're in northern region-
-the Hypothermia will kill you before the Z word-
#Survival101
#ZWord
@@devil5cry an M1 carbine will only be used in very dire FUBAR kinda situation. Mostly problems will be dealt with a sharp well maintained machete.
@@al-imranadore1182
need lubrication regularly keeping it reliable
And machete is just a thin blade And solo purpose is for cleaning the bushes
Not as mutil task as a crowbar or a hatchet
I really like this type of content. Stuff with fantasy analyzed in real life. A lot of the old fantasy weapon evaluations are similar.
Another thing many people forget to consider is that there's different interpretations of zombies, like Left 4 Dead for example, where rather than being reanimated corpses, they're actually living people, mutated by disease, much like the scenario he mentioned at the end of the video.
What plot hole I find hard to ignore in the classic Zombie movies is, that when a Zombie attacks a human, there only every are three outcomes:
1. Zombie fails, gets killed, doesn't bite anyone
2. Zombie bites, but gets killed. The bitten dumdum hides his infection until he himself is a zombie.
3. Zombie totally wins and devours its victim.
The point is, in case 1 we have zero remaining Zombies and in case 2 and 3 we have one remaining zombie. There is no way for the Zombie population to increase. A Zombie does not just bite a dude and then move on, unless it sees more survivors, that it attacks, in which case it will then be killed (I guess in theory it could run around, biting multiple people and then dying but I've never seen this happening in any movie).
This assumes zombies feel a desire to consume. Most organisms that require a host only focus solely on "reproduction" aka spreading as much as possible. In both viruses and the real world creepy fungus scenario, there would be no reason for zombies to do anything EXCEPT infect as many other hosts as possible.
This would only be the case if the only transmission of the "Zombieness" is via bites. If it has alternate vectors (Which it would require to exist in the first place. It has to come from SOMEWHERE before there exists a zombie to bite someone) then it can continue to spread, with the general existence of zombies being this at best 1v1 exchange.
Though, you can't disregard the potential for a dead zombie to be feasted upon by animals, thus infecting the animals (Depending on how the zombiness works, if animals can carry/become zombies)
Yeah, I really just base this of the "X of the Living dead" series of movies. Possibly some others movies I don't remember that well.
There definitely are versions where this the zombies behave somewhat differently and this is not a problem.
@@Maxuras "Zombie totally wins and devours its victim."
Dude. I can't believe you ate that whole thing... You couldn't even save me a leg or an arm?
The first thing I learned after reading Zombie Survival Guide is that I would die in the initial wave
When you listed all the rabid aggressive.murderous animals, I was expecting a rabbit... not even a mention 😭
That whole thing about crossfit: While it IS true that someone doing crossfit is prolly in better shape than someone doing nothing: 1. It's very easy to become a crossfit trainer and doesn't require NEAR the training that becoming a certified personal trainer does and because of that combined with crossfit WOD's not being designed for the beginner, many people have been injured in the process of wanting to get healthier and a few have even died from rabdomialysis, when is when you break down your muscles so much they tear open releasing the proteins within into bloodstream (something that is extremely toxic and sometimes fatal). 2. On top of the chance of injury, it's been proven that those that try to work on everything at once like crossfit does (strength, muscle size, endurance and cardio) don't get results NEARLY as fast as those that just do one type of workup at a time and switch focuses everything 3 months or so.
I really like this video, more apocalypse analysis could be fun!
To the wear and tear point I would like to add with our modern diet millions of humans have terrible teeth(I had a friend chip his tooth on a soft sandwich and he didn't have visible cavities and you could tell he brushed) so a couple chomps on a leather or winter jacket full force could leave tons of zombies basically toothless, sure the broken teeth will be sharper but they won't last.
Add in that if they don't have the physical restraint that the brain puts on our muscles they could theoretically break their own jaws limiting any bite after that
I'd like to mention that zombies need to eat aswell if we're going with the "bite to infect" zombies the zombies are people who got infected but that doesn't stop their need to consume nutrients in some shape or form even though they won't realize it themselves which means they all will start to starve eventually unless they actually go seek out food (and I think zombies would seek out other humans not to eat but spread the infection further)
Eventually meaning a few days.
Last of Us has good zombies that feed off of their host's decay since they are a fungus (and is similar to a real fungus that infects ants).
Rodents and insects are preety common and easy to get.
>Zombie outbreak starts in a city in Texas.
>Zombie stumbles out into square and tries to bite people
>Zombie is riddled with lead and collapses.
>Texans go up and kick the Zombie
>Texans get infected
>Crowd descends into shooting eachother.
Hi Skall, another horrifying scenario would be a desease which makes any infected infectious after minutes, shows no signs of the desease for a year or so and then turns them...
@Skallagrim at about the 25:00 mark you bring up mammals being affected - some areas have bears. Imagine those 'rage zombies' being bears.
I always said that Canada's harsh climate was a factor in maintaining its peace throughout history (no one wants to bother invading such a cold dang place). Turns out that it might save us from zombies as well. Nice !
In the World War Z books they noticed that as well. It ended with thousands of people frozen to death, the environment completely screwed and the survivors reduced to cannibalism, because they didn’t get any instructions beyond “Zombinis freeze, head as far north as you can and keep going.”
War of 1812: 👀.
🤣
@@kielbasamage And then, as told by Native American legends, cannibalism turns the few survivors into Wendigos! And then we're all even more screwed. XD
Trust the science. Make sacrifice to the Science.
No matter how dangerous, in present times someone would surely defend their rights.
I like that.
Im sure calling them zombies is inappropriate. How about "humans that were once living and now have rotten flesh and the desire to eat brains". That should please the mob.
Doom Eternal in a nutshell
Or people would say it’s all a hoax/conspiracy to attack the people fighting the zombies, people would demand they have the right to get bitten, people would completely ignore the zombies and instead use it as an excuse to enact vendettas against people…and a lot of people would become super violent because someone else has all the food/medical supplies/and a lot of gunfire in America
Dead rising lol
Depends, is the cause localized so people and governments throughout the world have time to prepare or is the cause administered as something else globally and turns people all over the world simultaneously?
I think I know what you mean...
Because it worked so well with covid.
I'd like to see a new iteration of zombies that uses neuropsychological explanations to make them terrifying. Maybe a pharmaceutical company produces a new drug and it causes a contagious parasite to appear. Eats the PFC, eats the frontal lobe, amps up the amygdala and hypothalamus, causes psychotic aggressive delusions. Turns people into vicious animalistic brawlers that see anyone living and uninfected into immense threats and only leaves in-tact the "fight" response.
Nice video btw
Late stage rabies is somewhat similar. Infected get aggressive and bite, thus transmitting the virus.
The most "plausible" scenario describes "Under the graveyard sky" by John Ringo. :)
Exactly!! The whole "Black Tide Rising" series is awesome!!
The worst scenario I have ever heard of would be biologically mediated zombies and the infection jumping species. Hordes of zombie rodents is a terrifying thought
I'd say that the chrysillid from the XCOM games would be a somewhat "plausible" way of getting, but I think that Minecraft's would be easier to deal with. The difference is quite easy to see.
XCOM: Enemy Unknown / Within - If a chrysillid (I'm probably butchering the name of this thing) kills a target directly, then the corpse will turn into a zombie, which will then hatch into a new chrysillid three turns after it rises, allowing exponential growth. Ironically enough, if a survivor of a chrysilid gets killed by any means other then the claws directly (poison, plasma rifle, sectopod, etc), then it won't turn into a zombie.
Minecraft - If a zombie kills you, then you turn into a zombie. Thankfully, the zombies (barring a variant, the husk) burn in the daylight, making avoiding them a matter of surviving the night.
If you decide to use the Counter:Side interpretation, then a corrupted object (CS's version of zombies) will kill you, but won't spread an infection. Living in an area that's under the Counterside effect though, is a different story. Treat it like you would radiation. In other words, stay away entirely.
Have you read the Zombie Survival Guide and/or World War Z? The two books do rather well at the broad strokes of a believable world outbreak.
Real shame about the movie. The zeds in the books don't even run lol
@Algernon Papadopoulos Oh I know why we got what we got. They missed the point of the book and wasted the rights to it. It's a fine zombie film on it's own but it's an insult to one of my favourite books growing up.
It was a series of the most dramatic events from a years long war and they somehow missed the opportunity to show how dramatic those events could be.
Like the writers couldn't frame it? Like they haven't heard the word 'flashback' before?
I just hope reboot culture picks it up. Everyone's too busy going "ooh regular zombies are overdone let's make our own thing" to realise their OC zombies are the overdone thing and the classic zombie has been ignored for a long time now.
Edit: Forgive the rambling, I'm merely lamenting missed potential.
@@korstmahler Exactly. I dont hate that movie because it was a bad movie. I hate it because it was a soulless cash grab that bastardized my favorite zombie IP.
@Algernon Papadopoulos Amen to that, the horror of Zombies is a slow creeping dread akin to being stranded on a dessert island. Zombies are like water; there's always more to wade through.
@@williamjenkins4913 Here here! I actually really enjoyed the movie and I think it really upped the danger of zombies. But I CANNOT forgive that they used the title "WWZ". Had they picked any other title other than the book then I would be way less angrier
3:00 I do not think people would be nearly as dismissive to an actual zombie virus vs something that turned out to be lesser then a typical flu season :/ dude
Here in Arizona we bundle up when the temperature drops below 70 and we got snakes, scorpions, cactus, and sunburns to deal with so exposed skin is usually a bad idea
Something I like about the Left 4 Dead universe is the varying effects the rapid mutation of the Green Flu has on its hosts.
The most dangerous mutation is not the one that makes Special Infected such as the Tank, Spitter, Boomer, or Witch; but it's the one that makes silent killers: the Carriers, which the original four Survivors happen to be.
Outside of any injuries sustained during their escape, Carriers appear to be just normal, healthy people. No rabid behaviors, no drastic transformations, no detectable symptoms, but they asymptomatically carry the Green Flu like Mary Mallon carried typhoid. This makes Carriers the most dangerous vector for the virus, because while the other Infected expire before getting too far into a sparsely-populated rural area (seriously, wait around a bit and watch the zombies, they die after a while if you don't disturb them. Really nice attention to detail by Valve), a few Carriers could be the doom of any dense survivor camp they visit. This condition is especially insidious during first aid, in which if either party is a Carrier, then they will more than likely end up infecting the other.
According to my brother (retired police chief), most police officers are actually poor shots with their duty weapons.
More like a common man with firearms
Plus aren't police officers trained to shoot at the center of mass? Aka the exact OPPOSITE of what you're suppose to be hitting a zombie at?
"The past 2 years have shown how braindead humans can be when dealing with a global pandemic"
Damn Skal you gotta drop truth bomb on us
I actually bought a copy of the zombie survival guide recently, and boom your video pops up, coincidence?
Another problem is that some zombies suddenly have improved hearing and smell,
it's not like a virus could just "unlock magic secret powers", we don't have the physical structure to do such things, we can't just smell things from 100m or hear any small noise from far away, we don't have the proper ear or nose to do such things,
and even if they weren't already dead, they still could die or become immobile by acting like they do, they would break their legs and tendons in the first week, and wouldn't be able to get as much energy as us by eating trash and blood, by the second week they would be lying on the ground in a perpetual agony
The last of us infection would be the worst. Infection via spores in the air, and it doesn’t kill the host. The host loses control but the fungus keeps the bodies power, allowing for full power attacks and sprinting (not running, full out sprinting). Given time, they grow hard fungal armor that is resistant to bullets and even Evolve bile sacs and such that they can use/throw as weapons to spread infection. And to top it off, its based off of a real life fungus. The cordyceps fungus which basically does exactly what I described but to bugs.
what makes the last of us zombies even worst is that the first infected were from contaminated produce not bites, so if you drink coffee or eat chocolate, avocado, pineapple etc, then you are one of the first infected... damn id be screwed.
3:20 This guy should appear in all your videos
Imagine being on an oil rig during the last scenario, after 3 months of survival, you decide to fish in a medium sized boat, you fish for two hours and, suddenly, a blue whale jumps out of the water and sneezes all over you. Your first thought is "Oh shit!", followed by "I'm covered in boogers,!"
There is of course the aspect of one of the infected being in base camp. Even if stringent inspection efforts are mandatory in regards to bite and scratches there is still the possibility of it being airborne local to zombie population in zone then it's a matter of air filtration vs viral particles per volume of air vs maintenance of said filters for survival.
I’ve been preparing for the zombie apocalypse for years and I can 100% say without a doubt that if zombies ever came I would be the most badass. Coolest looking…. Corpse on the street
My plus side on Z Days is no more taxes.
My actual fantasy is having a castle in Left 4 Dead 💀 I figured if we're gonna be all living in the dark ages 🏰
"Just some yokel"
Found out a while ago the origin of yokel, (jökul) means a frost spirit... never knew how that developed to what it is now.
Would have love that you mentioned Z Nation type of zombies too
I would definitely be one of those worldbuilding zombies with a couple empty magazine pouches, an empty knife scabbard and probably a screwdriver stuck in my neck
Zombie rodents would screw us real bad, zombie birds too. I don't even want to think about zombie insects and other invertebrates.
This evening there was a incident on a county lane by were I live I live in a village involving a bus anyway paramedics turned up along with the police and a ambulance. So me and my six year grandson were watching by my front door but we could not see what was going on so after a while I said to him it was the start of the zombie apocalypse and they were coming across the farmers field to get us he had a look of horror on his face and run in to my house. I said to him oh you big girl he said to me no granddad I was going to get your crossbow. Haha yeah right son I believe you. I could not stop laughing my daughter and son in law were not amused
The Night Of The Living Dead (1990) is the best example of what would happen if a zombie outbreak started in America.
That movie was way ahead of its time.
Pardon my english.
To be honest I think the worst-case scenario would be the Trioxin zombies from Return of the Living Dead.
It starts out an air born infection via chemical transmission, the transformation length varies depending on whether you're living or dead at the time of contact. Living creatures (NOTE: IT IS NOT LIMITED TO HUMANS!! It infects any and all animals, maybe even plants too) will take a few hours (2-8 hours, time is hard to judge in a movie) while the dead are almost instantly revived.
After the initial airborne phase, the infection becomes transmissible through contact, a bite will turn a person within the hour while having a zombie grab your arm for a minute will cause you to turn over the course of several hours. Literally just touching one of the infected for long enough will infect you. Death of course causes reanimation within minutes.
Here's the kicker, depending on how degraded the zombie is determines how fast it moves. They can be fast or slow, depending basically on how much of the zombie is still there.
Here's the worst part though. They are virtually impossible to kill. Literally, head shots don't work, decapitation only blinds them, even total dismemberment only means that you have animated pieces of a zombie instead of a whole zombie. The only way to kill them is through total destruction of the body at the molecular level. What's worse is that burning them resets the infection to the airborne stage again, unless you burn them in an enclosed system, with no escape for the exhaust. So literally nukes would actually exacerbate the situation.
Another hiccup is that trioxin zombies retain their intelligence, even after death.
So, with all this in mind, the fact that the zombies are fast, can infect without needing to wound, are ridiculously hard to kill, and the most efficient ways to kill them can make the situation worse, on top of the fact that the transformation can be fast AND infection can be stealthy, I gotta say this would have to be the worst scenario.
man the 28 days/weeks later movies were nuts, fuuuuuuck that would NOT wanna deal w a virus like that
Lol, not even zombies want to go down into Florida. It really is the worst. Granted it would be hard to find an adequate supply of brains there.
Another thing is that the brain of a person limits muscle use. In the case of resi or last of us, the brain is damaged or subdued to the point where that strength limitation is turned off, making for stronger zombies
Skallagrim, while you have points with Firearms etc. It seems we are taking into account following rules from Geneva and Hague Conventions. I'm sure survivors hell even the government would start to use tactics that are banned in war. Anything to maximize destruction and eliminate transmission methods. Napalm etc. Also depending on the time of year and location, I don't know how much heat a zombie's body can produce, but if it isn't producing enough heat it can freeze over night and they may or may not stop zombification alone. I don't know if when they defrost if they come back or not.
I think the best way for dealing with zombies goes as follows:
1: At all times, evade rather than engage unless completely necessary, drawing zombies away from you also counts as evading. Going around the threat lowers the chances of getting injured and potentially drawing more to your location and also saves precious time and resources.
2: Wear relatively light but tough to tear clothing, motorcycle equipment and denim fabrics are ideal. With light clothing, you won't get fatigued as quickly, you'll be able to move faster and more quietly (important) and if zombies can't actually break the skin and exchange bodily fluids, you're pretty much safe.
3: If you are going to engage zombies, use a blunt weapon with a reasonable amount of reach and weight. Forget aiming for the centre of mass, aim for the head and destroy the brain. Also blunt weapons will be easier to maintain and last longer than sharp ones. Forget using firearms, they're loud, require maintenance and ammunition and unless you have atleast professional training, you're unlikely to hit anything that matters.
4: If you have a fortified area with a stockpile of necessary supplies, only go out if you need to get something and keep all entrances closed tight even if you're leaving for just a few minutes. The whole point of having somewhere safe to stay is keeping the threat out. Also if you're going to burn the bodies of zombies you have killed (also important, rotting flesh can cause various diseases and is generally unpleasant to be around), make sure you do it somewhere away from your base but still easy enough to get to if you know the area.
or 5, live in the USA gather up your neighbors and just start blasting
A self care zombie! We need this. It doesn't care about brains. It cares about hair products, skin care, and nail polish. It accidentally spreads as people are freaking out, between it and the care products. 🤣
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High calibres that transfer most of its projectile energy quickly would be the most efficient imo (7.62x39 for an instance).
Soft core, no jacket/hollow points or fragmentations/HE rounds.
Just started this video. Liked it anyway. I know listening to Skal talking about zombies is going to be awesome!
If I saw a horde of zombies, and wasn't already one myself, I would poke their king with a shard of obsidian, thus causing the entire horde to promptly shatter.
I’d love to see a modern movie use the magical undeath trope, we see it allot in dnd. But I’d love to see a movie use the idea, some ancient curse, a lich, or something else magical causing the undeath. It would be interesting to see how that would be depicted in film, last time I remember a movie using magical undead was from Evil Dead, but think about how terrifying magical undead are. They never get tired, always move, some are intelligent enough to hunt humans down like pack animals. It would make the spread of undeath allot more terrifying if the undead were capable of somewhat intelligent thought to use to kill more humans
It's not just a fun horror movie trope. Zombies are a slur against the common person.
""We are the dead," he said.
"We are the dead," echoed Julia dutifully.
"You are the dead," said an iron voice behind them."
-Orwell, 1984
I'm a little late to the party but I wanted to mention that the US government has run a scenario to see how well it would cope with a zombie incursion. It's called CONPLAN 8888 and was an exercise done to practice against bioterrorism. You should look it up, they actually talk about the various kinds of zombies that could exist (only one of which actually being real) and how best to combat them from a strategic standpoint.
Also, the idea of a zoonotic zombie virus that infects all mammals, yeah, no thank you. That would be the worst case scenario.
I am working on a zombie story fan story for one manga series. Zombies are more of a fungal version and never were considered a big threat as it is Not so easy to spread the fungi, just easy enough that it needs to be kept in check. However, some vampires with nanotech figured out that zombies can be hardwired.. and with certain battle computers... zombies with guns and other weapons.... uh oh....
i always thought of a sharkbite proof suit. If shark teeth dont cut it zombies wont either.
also some kind of treadmill in front of my fence. zombies try to reach my fence and get pushed just back again.
Yeah, but is the zombie virus transmissible if i am sitting down to eat at a resturant or gathering in groups of less than 6?
How effective is toilet paper armor?
@Jo Jo six feet?
Sounds like they are in polearm distance, safer for them to be even further away lol.
Another thing to consider is that regular people will try to combat the zombies in their daily lives for example I can imagine that people that have at least one case of the virus in their city will minimize the time they are at of the house, out of the car, start wearing more protective clothing and even carrying things such as heavy walking sticks/hammers, especially if we are taking about slow moving zombies
The Cataclysm dda zombies are probably most dangerous and the most impossible to contain. Because the bodys must be destroyed in a way that prevents them from getting back up.
Believe it or not there's a "zombie" military training exercise that's only use for an actual outbreak is the rage type. A couple of things that weren't mentioned in the video that could have an effect if the zombie outbreak occurred are things like the group of people with weapon training including armed gangs/other criminals, retired military/police, hunters, and gun enthusiasts. All are people that have a slightly better chance than average citizen using improvised weapons and or limited to no training. The next thing to affect an outbreak is mostly restricted to a blood/bodily fluid transmission and that is even at range blood splatter can land on you or an ally with melee much more likely to lead to infection not even from an open wound or bite. The last bit is how a zombie can be dangerous after it is killed by simply causing a survivor to fall/stumble (if the blood transmission counts toward infection then it would be difficult to avoid something from getting to your mouth because of automatic reflex beyond a hazmat suit)
I put forward the "Black Tide Rising" series by John Ringo as a realistic zombie apocalypse and response.
my answer to all kinds of zombie outbreaks would always be machine guns, living or not won't matter in seconds
The channel Thought Potato did a video on Zombie Biology, pretty good video
I think the Rage virus in 28 days Later might not be as bad in reality compared to the movie because if the infected have an uncontrollable urge to kill anything that moves, they would most likely attack each other as much as the uninfected & only infected injured would turn, a dead person wouldn't. Also they would be out in the open rather than hiding or trying to escape, so after the initial outbreak, they would mostly be targeting each other, which would bring the overall number of zombies down quite rapidly.
2:30 hey I have that coat!
> Zombie infection spreads on the East Coast
> Florida eradicates all threats from spreading south into the state
That feeling when Florida, home of the infamous bath salts homeless man face eater incident, is one of the safest spots in the US during a zombie apocalypse.
should put a screamer warning at 3:16 I nearly had a heart attack X3
Let's all take a sec to just remember this stuff is for fun, and as it stands, there is no 100% perfectly scientific way to measure such a hypothetical. But gosh darn, does it make for some really good storytelling and fun speculations!
Little sidenote, it was mostly the tv show of TWD that handled heads being sponges really badly, in the comic I dont remember them being that much of an easy target (in comparison of course)
A zombie apocalypse, in which the zombies fall apart over time. They start as fresh corpses, after few weeks they are nearly only skeletons and after few months all zombies are gone, only bones left on the ground. Also interesting idea, but probably to easy for the survivors xD.
You think children wouldn't be dangerous until you get a zombie kid in the middle of a crowd biting at people's legs
... So if their regenerative abilities is some how effected. For fairness, lets say the it effects it in a way that makes the regenerative abilities more reactive to shots, like their wounds close of fairly quick, blood gets redirected though they won't regrow limbs and organs etc. This may allow them to move better in extreme weathers etc.
Love the Outtakes XD
How about the zombies being eaten/attacked by animals? Unless animals have an aversion to undead flesh (like in A Song of Ice and Fire) a not insignificant amount of zombies would be at the very least taken out of action by animals.
on the topic of police in the video, Law Enforcement is not trained to aim for the head, they are taught to go center of mass and take down by volley fire until a dangerous target is neutralized, so in a situation where head shots are mandatory for putting down the undead, that percentage within law enforcement would be more on a person to person basis. the true saviors in a zombie apocalypse are the Competition handgun shooters, even amatures at it who compete will have a larger advantage over most in dealing with shooting a target the size of a melon at several feet. Remember folks guns aren't like in video games, the small subtle shakes of your hand mean a world of difference between hitting your target and hitting a unintended target hundreds of yards behind it.
Your "worst case scenario" case sounds almost identical to project zomboid
Airborne infection gets most people, but a few have a genetic resistance to the virus, so they can only be infected by fluid exchange
I love these kinds of videos from you! 10/10!
I started making my own shotgun slugs/reloads.and stored up food and supplies. I sharp hatchet 🪓 with a hammer on it. Bowie Knife and side arm. Zombies survival starter kit.
I've never understood why people feel the need to specify the 'type' of zombies, runners or not, etc. No matter if they're infected or undead, you would think they would be able to do what ever the host human could at first and that ability would deteriorate over time. A fresh zombie could probably run and its senses should be pretty much in tact - leave him out in the sun for a few days and the corneas get scratched and the limbs broken, sinuses dry up and tendons shorten?
It makes the most sense that most would start as rage zombies and deteriorate to Romero type.
*I'll take zombies that crave tax breaks over craving brains.*
I think worst case is Z-Nation: you cannot even hunt for food because everything is infected (and you get mutations), which you can still do in TWD.
There are several very good non-American zombie movies. Aside from 'Shaun of the Dead', I enjoyed 'Rammbock', which takes place in Germany, 'The Horde' which is a French production and pretty much off the shelf, and the tour de force, 'Train to Busan', an excellent movie with really good acting and a clever scenario. I have also seen an Italian zombie movie that was well done on a low budget with few actors. I cannot remember the name of it, though. Some people also include the 'Dead Snow' movies, but those aren't really zombie apocalypse movies. More in line with old-time monster movies. Honorable mention goes to 'Fido'. (A Boy and his Zombie could also have been the title.)
Skal this was funny af you did so freaking good on this video 🤘🤘
After a 50 hour work week.. Thank you 🙏 this was great 👍 10/10
Muh Immune System part was amazing. This is 100% the best video you ever made Skall, I love it
Skal's house would be a great safehouse in the apocalipse. You wouldn't be running out of weapons.
Also, after reaching some amount, horde can't increase anymore by meeting survivors, because after N bites bodies will become unusable.
I like a zombie that's had its brain eaten and replaced by a parasite that takes over its autonomic and motor functions.
If we're dealing with a "The Girl With All the Gifts" situation (airborn spores) everyone is screwed.
That's just a fact.
The golden shower tinkle down economics is fucking harlirous.
In a zombie apocalypse, the best places to be are near Shad, Jorg Sparve, the Metatron, Matt Easton, Skallagrim, Matt of Demo Ranch, Edward Sarkissian, and Gun Jesus. Why? Because they're all armed to the teeth. Honorable mentions go to Officer Greg of Taoflaedermaus and Kirsten Joy Weiss becuase even though they may not be quite as well armed as the people mentioned above, they both really good shots.
Probably That's works and Tods workshop as they have shit load of melee weaponry or even pole arms LoL
@@devil5cry Yeah, I forgot about Tod's workshop. That would definitley be a great place to set up a base/camp at if you live in the UK. It's not only well equipped with all kinds of melee weapons, you also have someone, in the form of Tod himself, and the facilities to make more weapons. At least until you run out out raw metal, but I imagine that Tod could probably work with any scrap metal that could be scrounged.
Easy, if zombies show up, learn necromancy and become a lich. Once you've done that, they'll do what you tell them. Then you can rule all of existence
Skall makes a disturbingly convincing neo-shaman type.
I work for a LEO agency. I would not count on cops are being very useful, even if their accuracy was significantly higher. I once walked in on a bunch of them talking about their plan for a zombie outbreak. They decided to hole up in the jail. A defensible position, but without a food supply, an armory, and only two ways out that were easily blockaded from the outside...
I though of a base decision tree some time ago for a zombie outbreak:
Is the outbreak very recent? No -> Suicide.
Are the zombies fast? Yes -> Suicide
Do animals get zombified? Yes -> Suicide
Are the zombies semi-intelligent? Yes -> Suicide
If It's a recent outbreak of slow, stupid, human-only zombies, then gather your friends with low-tech survival skills and head for the hills to wait it out, while Nature eats all the mobile carrion.