Lol do you guys really need everything explained in movies like kids... it's more than obvious that the very arrogance of Wayland finding the engineers to become inmortal is why they wanted to destroy human kind, oh and the fact that we have been killing each other for milleniums
@@darthmalicos9973 lol ya, also if the engineers thought humans unfit to survive and was about to annihilate us, why would he even feel the need to explain to them the error of their ways. Would be so corny if he did.
@ronfelix6507 Except that the religion was actually a myth created by the engineers... current religious institutions wouldn't want to hear that. It's not to far of a leap from realizing it IS a man made religion.
Also I'am pretty sure this dialogue is fake, is from a fan script that somehow fooled everyone in the community into thinking was at some point planned to be in the movie.
Was not supposed to be covrenant, was supposed to be Alien Paradise Lost...which knowing about those scripts definitely was a more interesting storyline....
The first film was poorly written and completely incoherent in many ways. And the sequels did absolutely nothing to fix this problem. They only made it worse, bringing new inconsistencies.
WHY? The movie was FULL of holes, 2D characters and lost potential. Covenant only made this worse. This had all the potential in the world, dropped the ball on EACH and every level of the story. Besides this was never shot nor written, this was click bate. The real speech (taken out for a reason) is on line anyways.
They could have left the reasoning in without the allusions to Jesus. They took it out because it’s on the nose and it doesn’t make sense for the Engineer to take a moment for story time before he tries to kill everyone.
As a roman catholic, I would have like to see this in the film. It would have brought a lot of really interesting discussions. You have to step out of your comfort zone, out of the box....
I’m a Christian, I’m not offended, I know the difference between Fiction and reality. How poor is someone’s faith if they feel threatened by this fictional speech in a science FICTION film? 🙄🙄🙄🙏🌈🇬🇧♥️
The fundamentalist Christians most offended by this sort of thing didn't go to see it despite the line's removal. Appeasing special interest groups of any persuasion is folly.
It isn't the long believing Christian who is most suseptible to deception... it is the young Christian and the uninformed. Objection to such deception by those more experienced in the ways of this world isn't being offended for their own sake, but for the sake of the young and naive. What is merely offensive to the elder Christian can be life altering for those whose faith and knowledge is yet undeveloped, so, taking offense and protesting such things is an effort by the elders to shield the young.
@climbermatt556 Having observed life inside a fundamentalist Baptist church, I can say that the elder Christians certainly did see themselves as "sentinels" so to speak...but their vigilance too often manifested as overbearing arrogance, intolerance and hypocrisy.
@@climbermatt556 your entire religion is based off of indoctrinating the minds of children. if you're scripture is so flimsy and uninspiring that a teenager watching a sci-fi film turns secular then that's a problem with your church, not pop culture.
They didn't create them, they discovered a technology that could eradicate the universe of life. As far as I'm concerned the black goo is a hyperdimensional form that interfaces with conscious will to create dream forms in reality. Of course a weapon could be created.
Sufficient evidence was that the ship was supposed to fly towards earth 2k years ago. (it's strange that they ended up on this ship since there were more of them) It's good that they did what they did, because then the film would have earned less and there would have been no further parts.
I don't think so, because if it was in the movie, it would go like this : "So we just sent you one guy, with not much of power, so he tells you what we want. He was among thousands of other self-proclaimed prophets and you dared to not believe him. Also, all his paradise and hell stories were bs (obviously since we really are aliens) and you choose not to believe. How dare you !" That would be so stupid, it would make fools of the Engineers and also, while we are at it, they call us barbarians but... arn't they the ones who created the Aliens as a weapon ?
@@ardour1587 they know how dangerous and warmonger human is, but in the past, human still not capable of galaxy travel. Up to Prometheus, now human can travel around the galaxy, spreading as a virus, violent creature who only want war and dominance. The engine want to save the galaxy from human
@@ardour1587it wasn’t the occasional humans cannot get along look where we are today and most importantly, if they did send Jesus with all that knowledge, and they still killed him, they’re beyond saving, sometimes it’s better to just kill the garden and start fresh
@@user-xj4jh8ho4x plot my ass. Invent some "higher authority" (gods, super aliens, whatever) for yourself to be able to judge humanity like you have a right. After all its not aliens who wanted to nuke people but those people who made up aliens :) Go judge lions for eating lambs or in general be offended about nature of things [shrug] cheap and old trick. Ridley is an old idiot
Lol listen to the anunaki creation story, or the book of Enoch, or Sumerian creation story. It’ll make you wonder. All pretty much prove Jesus, Moses, Noah, etc. just told in a different time with different people.
It would have been something, true. But i cannot see, why they couldnt film in a cryptic way (in order not to insult anyone). Its sad, that they did not include this in the film.
It would seem because of the cuts. To the script, they turned the engineers from benevolent. To the villains... Is so many closed mighty people in this world... I guess the engineers Were correct.
How tf does anyone think this is anything other than completely retarded? The engineers literally created Jesus Christ himself and filled his brain with alien knowledge and sent him down to earth? That's the laziest most fucking dogshit writing I've ever heard in my life thank god someone talked sense into them.
When Ridley Scott talks about this movie, he still tells this same story about the Engineers. While it isn’t discussed in the film, it’s looked at as if it’s just common knowledge that this is what happened
Perhaps because we did not fit in their plans for the place? Perhaps we turned out different from their vision. When someone becomes all powerful, they eventually start seeing the rest of the world as means to an end, and lives are taken very easily.
MY biggest problem with Promotheus is the extensive use of stupidity as a plot vehicle. Every significan turn of events is brought about by someones stupid actions.
It's run by the church of science. Of course they don't want religious references, science fiction movie or not. They hate Jesus like most people and for no reason other than to blame their anger on something that has nothing to do what's wrong with the world sctientificly.
The implications they wanted to avoid by cutting it out was who Christs killers were, they own Hollywood and that’s why it never made it into the final cut
That's not how it works. You are responsible for yourself. If you chose to be a barbarian then that's your free will in play and there will be consequences.
Ai being sentient is a myth. Ultimately its programed by humans, and for it to go rogue or kill is a human programing into the machine in itself. All rogue programs were created to do so, not by their own choice. If you understand “Operation Northwoods” it makes much more sense.
@@nevrom25 yes, it's earth name for them were The Anunnaki...mean "Those who came from heaven to earth." But it's for all who come from heaven to earth. I'm sure they have individual names or sector names. ie insectoids, humanoids etc
The religious institutions dont work under the same framework a movie does. If u want to sell, you acclimate to your buyers. Religion is not a sold product like a movie. They did the right thing and made more money in doing so. You're a dogmatic fool and will continue in your fruitless life until you perish and the world will rejoice.
Religious institutions have no control over how someone feels. I agree however this would had made for an interesting story line and made the movie make sense.
We are talking about species that knows no war trying to create another like them. But black goo they used was a replica of original substance and imperfect. In the end they created humans who in them have seed of mindless violence that is present in all creatures spawned from black goo. Imagine if humans tried to create more humans artificially and end result is basically goblins
we have free will and time. Many think time is the enemy but truly time is a boundary where man can indulge, and oppose. Satan sinned in eternity, man sinned in time which is why we have time to repent while still here because for humans we have a chance to be better.
@@teachmehacks AHHH sophistry. By the terms of the comic book scenario you described, humans are superior to all angels, devils and even God, because we can choose, worry and regret. Omnipotent, eternal beings can't do those things, all is known, all is possible. That's why they're childish ideas.
The engineer seemed pretty violent in the movie unleashing a terrible plague on the earth that also kills all the other flora and fauna doesn’t sound too advanced or evolved
What your government do to animals.? You ignore it and tolerate it. In Dante inferno, there is part for neutral people. We must learn empathy to all living beings. Love right.? Show my your plate at xmass eve. 🙂 You soul can't work within toxic acidic body. Which is not made to procces meat. The way to your heart it's through your stomach. From Bible, cave paintings to isis, and virgin. Biochemistry written in parables and alegories,. It's about you and your journey to reunion. Western poison education to create consumers. Illusion of material existence That excludes the soul s
@@ninjanoku They didn't talk because the species was so evolved they could communicate telepathically. We would eventually be able to communicate the same way, after all we have the same DNA, we are just too young as a creation.
@@biznisman7049 I just think that saying there is a deleted line like this is a clickbait lie. We all wanted there to be some resolution that gave us “the answers” to life and the universe that satisfied the itch. But that wasn’t the point Prometheus was trying to make. When dude was playing pool with bishop and he asked why humans made him and the answer was “because we could”. Then he replied with something like well how disappointing would it be if that’s the answers you got. I’m not denying the points you’re trying to make about the characteristics of the engineers. I’m denying that there was any deleted line from the script because it wouldn’t make sense with the themes of the movie. Like this video is trying to claim that they abducted Jesus and sent him back?? lol that’s laughably retarded and would have killed the vibe of the movie.
@@ninjanoku We had how many total minutes of them on screen? From that how many minutes was there any motivation to talk? David clearly decoded their language and the one engineer apparently understood. It’s also clear they really looked down on David and the humans and probably felt no reason to communicate to the lesser being Kind of like how most (rational and sane) people probably don’t speak to the ants as they prepare to spray them when they start coming in the house in the summer
But he smashed the old dude to death. So good point. This movie is amazing like Burger King. You enjoy everything until You digest it and You realise there is no real value in it.
@@bartoszulkowskitattoo I mean, he was on his way to destroy all life on earth. Why would killing one old guy be out of line. The lore in Prometheus is good, people just can't be happy with anything when they put something (Alien) on such a high pedestal and also have a lot of nostalgia attached to it as well.
I thought it was pretty creative. I’m Christian; I’m Catholic but I still see this movie as an interesting adaptation of art for enjoyment. Nothing else.
@@user-qs1ii5br7f you don't know the story of Enoch then. He gets brought to heaven, so that they can show him that God isn't cruel, and then he's told to go back to earth to tell people to repent. They don't show him the mysteries or anything like that. And when enoch is brought to the seventh heaven he isn't brought there with his mom or anything like that.
@@netwraith8215 did they really ? They looked pretty violent ripping that guys head off lol not to mention the genocide of a whole planet of other engineer like looking beings
@@jessicalynn7229 the engineer ripped the robots head off because he saw the robot as a perversion of humanity. Besides, it was not the engineer that virus bombed the planet of engineer looking people, it was the robot.
Yes. That whole scene is crazy without context included in the cut content. All you see in the theatrical release is the engineer go mad and kill Weyland and tear apart David for no apparent reason. The cut content has Weyland with David as interpreter ask the engineer for more life since he is dying old man. The whole backstory of man and the sheer audacity of Weyland to ask for more life maddens the engineer and does what we all see in the film.
@@UR.CHRISTIANOooo….and therein lies the whole point being made…(🙄) Humans think they know the answers and kill each other for disagreeing. Congrats. Now please look into the pretty pulsing alien seed pod…..
It explains why they want to destroy humanity but it just boils down to “humans violent!” so it’s not like we were missing out on anything groundbreaking. Also, didn’t the engineers create the Xenomorphs? Aren’t the Xenomorphs one of the deadliest weapons in the galaxy?
Yup, they're bloody hypocrites. Imagine if we as human builders and engineers got annoyed with our computer software or machines for not working as well as intended. Whose fault would that be?
@@wayne20ukI read about it and there are different Stories..some are Canon and some are not. The Xenomorph-Planet is in the Comics..the Comics and Films have different backroundstories.
Funny thing is that engineer then tries his best to kill most Christian person in the entire movie. If he saw her cross necklace he might have had some questions and calm down
@jamesgeorge4874 I saw a picture of all these bugs in a bug church. A bug priest was leading the service, and behind him hanging on a wall was a huge shoe with a squashed bug on it.
I don't think so, because they did not create the religion for humans. I don't think engineers recognize the meaning of cross nor care what it is. All they see is a problematic species even if Shaw wasn't Christian.
Look at the mural in the big head room, there is a xenomorph in the crucified position. Ridley was going this way from the start. The mural remained after they cut the idea out of the script.
@@mindrover777 When they open the door with the decapitated guy on the floor, to the room with all the canisters, and the big head is on the floor. Everyone is just looking around and one of the crew shines his flashlight on the wall. Its a giant painting of a xenomorph like figure in a crucified position. It not to fast so you miss it but its not to long of a look either. just watch the scene again.
@@thinktwice3211not only that. The mentioned speech seems like an answer more and speech less. Which makes sense because Elizabeth Shaw did ask the questions. And moreover she was a believer. And also wore a cross. And she was the one who uncovered the mural. I have seen the scene.
@@AHModuckTube "What did we do, why do you hate us?" Shaw was on point, this could have been one of the best Alien movies, dropped the ball big time. I also hate what happened to Shaw all off camera in Covenant. Shaw could have been a trilogy hero. I'm sorry but I think Romulous is going to drop the ball again. I think they just need to move forward with Alien 5 soft reboot, all about the Aliens, and stop trying to add different sub species and even let the Aliens win a time or two.
@@AHModuckTube We also need a true Alien VS Predator movie with less humans. In the one comic, the Predators captured a queen and released her on a populated world and waited 10 years and came back to clear the planet. That was WW100!
Uh. How did that line “disturb religious institutions” if it never made it into the final film? What, did they have a “religious institutions prescreen” of the first cut of the movie?😅
People just say anything these days and you have idiots scrambling trying to make it make sense. You think the pope is afraid of Prometheus' draft script?
I KNEW IT! When they were at the Alien Ship, the coordinates for Earth were punched in 2000 years ago. Meaning the Ship was to deliver the bioweapon 2000 years ago to punish Earth.
They should have kept it along with all that dialogue that was so important. So many people, especially hardcore Alien franchise fans found so many things to criticize about this flawed, but amazing movie anyway.
No? Like, humans are their creation, they tried to teach them their ways, it wasn't a experiment, the Engineers tried their best to save us, but we killed their kind.
The whole point of evolution is to give a species time to improve and perfect themselves, and if they don't make mistakes then there is nothing to learn from.
Killing members of the same species in the most horrible ways, for silly reasons, as well as all killing other life forms and the eco system of which they are dependent off, is not "the point of evolution". The best killers are not the goal. The point of evolution is not to end evolution, by exterminating all advanced life. What made you think that? Sure, once humans have detonated all nukes life will still exist on earth, but it will start from the beginning again, as it did 65 million years ago. And all the "progress" made from then until today will be gone.
Well we still making the same mistakes so I guess humanity will never learn. Folks is arguing about pro nouns there seems to be a war popping off every other day now people still spilling blood in the streets of what's supposed to be land of the free yet all I see is murder and hate over the dumbest of things. If anything we're going in reverse never forward to a better day. When will people learn money and social media is the root of all evil it's the reason why this shi will never end.
They don't expect humans to evolve. It's not what they had signed up for. They created humanity to worship them and follow the way of life in their terms.
@@Ma55ey Thats part of evolution. It will try any path possible and what doesnt work (survive) becomes extinct. Its why human history was so brutal: only the strong survived. Now we live in a time of comfort and we are seeing the weak rule. It wont end well.
There is a hint of this still in the movie. They say that the mummified head is around 2000 years old. I always thought this was a reference to Christ. When they decided to go back and destroy humanity after the murder of Christ that's when the accident happened and there was a leak in the facility.
It could also explain why there's been no apparent second coming of Christ or Armageddon. No one was alive after the accident to send him back or attack.
Yep, put it back in the movie…. Then have Shaw wish the Engineer a fun trip to Earth instead of having her crew t-bone his ship…..After all we’re on a mission to do it to ourselves….. Let them clean up the mess they created here on Earth….Next….🤣
@@bellatordei3440 no its fuuuunnnnyyyyyyyyyyyy⅜ Update: oh sorry, I just confused it with the remaster of Resident Evil 4. There were also sentences left out. For example, Leon's comment about Ashley falling on her butt. I think there was a similar discussion under a video like this
My biggest complaint about Prometheus is that it is supposed to set before the events of alien by several decades, but for some reason, the technology of Prometheus seems far more advanced than anything in alien. Like the flying spheres used to map out the uncharted caves in Prometheus. Why couldn’t they use that to investigate the derilict ship in alien?
*Meanwhile, they leave the Predators alone....* Admittedly, it might have been a cold war situation with them, neither species wanting to risk a war with the other...
No anymore. Its been established since covenant came out it's part of avp. This is mentioned by the directors. The engineers created the xenomorphs to deal with predators. That's why they wanted to destroy humanity. Because human and engineer dna is same. Which makes everything the predators have been doing more sense. They have been using humans to evolve themselves. Both literally and genetically. They don't have access to the Black gooey thing so they use the closest thing they have access to.@@Gunnar001
I loved this movie from an entertainment standpoint and the questions it begged. It was much deeper than just running around tying to survive the monsters. I find the engineers absolutely fascinating and they should have their story told.
What? It’s because it replaces a god with an alien a species who created mankind, there’s a difference between something that’s been around for thousands of years and the story remained unchanged until today because we think we know it all after having 40 years worth of modern tech
Not really, I follow Jesus Christ, and am no where near what I call “ a good faith Christian” Everyone seems to respect others religions in entertainment, might do us good to respect everyone else’s. False idols are a big deal in anyone’s religion. I’m glad they kept it out.
@@RazaPlaysGames Blasphemy is using the pagan Pharaonic beliefs, and superimposing that onto God. Blasphemy is saying God had a son, then sacrificed that son for Us, humans. Blasphemy is making out God to be such a weak, fallible, imperfect character as you do. Worshipping a human. And you're talking about blasphemy. lol.
@@adamel-nagar8258you are the most ignorant commenter in the comment section. That is quite a feat. You very obviously have no clue what you are talking about. Parroting stupid things someone else told you isn't a viable substitute for intelligence.
@@RazaPlaysGamesbetter then comparing god to human. A powerful being not of earth and u religious heads call em demons. Blind to ur saviours, ur angels. 👽🛸👁
The line was taken out, but it was because the studio got cold feet. Not religious institutions. How would they even know if it wasnt even out yet. They definitely lying.
They should have kept this monologue in. It would have made the engineer's rage make sense instead of just making him a big angry brute for no apparent reason.
One of the most stupid excuses I've ever seen in my life. Hollywood has been mocking Christian institutions for decades! It's an excuse to try to justify one of the worst science fiction movie sequels ever written.
That's the difference between people following a teaching about turning the other cheek versus beheading anyone who disagrees with them. This is not to offend, but to speak the truth. If the truth offends anyone, then they do not care about the truth nor do they search for it. That is the same reason why they employ violence and all manners of depravity to push their agenda. They want to see the world burn! 🔥
Because a Muslims' nuts aren't removed - we're not accepting ANY insulting of ANY Prophet or Messenger...and most certainly NOT The Creator of All nor His protected Book.....
@@erbaldwin1To all humans, really. Humans sinned, and the price of sin is death. So Jesus became human, He came to earth not with gold and fine linens but he was born in a dark, dirty sheep cave. Jesus loves us so much He lowered himself to be level with humans and willingly paid the price of our sins and defeated death when He rose from the dead. Even then, humans still rejected Him, they hated Him. They are blinded by the God of this world, Lucifer. Islam, atheistic scientists, modern churches, modern entertainment and Sports have one thing in common. They tell you Jesus is not God, or Jesus does not exists, or "the rules of Church councils are more important than Jesus's", or "Watch my concert and my match I'm more important than Jesus". Lucifer is doing everything He can to distract humans from going to Jesus from every possible angle. Humans have free will to make their own choices, and many of them do not choose Jesus.
This line could have added so much depth into their lore behind their creationist species. They should have kept the line in that would have made the engineers a way cooler entity in the alien lore.
The movie needed this explanation. I remember watching it for the first time and thinking why didn’t they give an explanation as to why they hated us so much. It makes sense now.
This is very old news but I remember watching it in theaters and quickly googling trying to find out more info on the engineers and this came up. I was so mad they didn’t leave it in.
Religious institutions being offended is not because they want to ruin everything it’s because if you would read the Bible you would understand that Jesus is Creator not created. It a major misrepresentation of who He is. Context matters!
Things were probably a lot simpler back then and there probably wasn't much to write about in his life during those years. Especially just wandering about and having random interactions with people. Not everything is a teachable moment to be written about, like getting a haircut. Lol.
I don’t know if anybody’s ever heard of Billy Carson pretty famous. He’s on Joe Rogan’s podcast in the past month. This is his exact theory on who God really is basically an alien who came to earth to give teachings.
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@@zacheryeckard3051and Jesus said to love your enemies and your neighbors. Religion is based on peace and love. Great job on showing you can't follow guidelines
Lv 223 the planet they went to. Leviticus chapter 22 verse 3. So many, missed so much in this movie. First, the planet the "engineer" drinks the goo and seeds an ocean is NOT Earth. The engineers were also created, by a preceding, more ancient race. Ridley scott has givin so much insight into this movie since its release. Still, so much has been missed.
I’m sure that I’m in the minority on this one but I really enjoyed the Engineer aspect of the Alien [prequel] franchise and was really looking forward to getting more backstory and context after Prometheus initially came out. The Face-huggers and Chest-bursters always provided for a thrilling/terrifying plot point, but adding a dimension of “what are they and how were they created?” really drove more intrigue and potential into the story.
No the line was not removed for the stated reason, it was simply an idea in an earlier draft of the script which was dropped as the creative process took the story in a different direction.
It is outright stupid to suggest that including such a plot point would be dangerous or that a modern movie studio would make such drastic changes to a script for fear of offending religious extremists .
As a Christian man, I wish they would have kept that line, it gives much more meaning to the film and also, there is no reason to be offended by anything, we are talking about a fiction film, nobody is attacking your religion.
This would've made sense. They were extremely angry with humans but never gave a reason why.
Right, they just woke up and chose violence 😂😂
@@MRFOEFIFFcool
Wht I feel like sometimes,I'm joking I'm passive aggressive
Lol do you guys really need everything explained in movies like kids... it's more than obvious that the very arrogance of Wayland finding the engineers to become inmortal is why they wanted to destroy human kind, oh and the fact that we have been killing each other for milleniums
@@darthmalicos9973 lol ya, also if the engineers thought humans unfit to survive and was about to annihilate us, why would he even feel the need to explain to them the error of their ways. Would be so corny if he did.
@darthmalicos9973 none of that made sense in the final cut of the movie.
"Religious institutions were offended"
Southpark : "Hold my beer"
No it actually affirms what Christianity has been trying to say
That's not a reson why they had to remove this dialougue from a scrypt.
@ronfelix6507 Except that the religion was actually a myth created by the engineers... current religious institutions wouldn't want to hear that. It's not to far of a leap from realizing it IS a man made religion.
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@@Tryn2bgood And what might that be .
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The "we gave you fire" line explains the title, Prometheus.
Prometheus & Bob~
@@vincenegra2612 thank you for your service
yeah, like the Greek giant Prometheus giving fire to the poor humans, only to be punished by the gods... How this turnned into a Jesus thing?
It's the name of the ship.... that explains the title.
@@crs2crs2 so you didn't know that prometheus was also the name of a giant in Greek Mythology? it steals fire from the gods and gives it to humanity.
It disturbed 0 religious institutions because ZERO religious institutions were involved in the production of the movie......
exactly. unless they got a prescreening lol
This video is a political piece, and the guy has the same spirit the "engeneers" were criticizing humanity for in the script lol
Also I'am pretty sure this dialogue is fake, is from a fan script that somehow fooled everyone in the community into thinking was at some point planned to be in the movie.
Yeah this was a gaslight. When has the church ever had any say in the production of a sci fi horror movie's script?
@@rabble_rousdower apparently there's a Catholic bishop that's a part of the highly secretive film ratings board
The fact that the true sequels for the Prometheus storyline never came to light is even more saddening.
What do you mean?
Was not supposed to be covrenant, was supposed to be Alien Paradise Lost...which knowing about those scripts definitely was a more interesting storyline....
The first film was poorly written and completely incoherent in many ways. And the sequels did absolutely nothing to fix this problem. They only made it worse, bringing new inconsistencies.
WHY? The movie was FULL of holes, 2D characters and lost potential. Covenant only made this worse. This had all the potential in the world, dropped the ball on EACH and every level of the story. Besides this was never shot nor written, this was click bate. The real speech (taken out for a reason) is on line anyways.
@@enthomorf no it was not lol
They sacrificed a massive and unexpected plot point so they wouldn't cause offence. This world drains the fun out of everything
That's called censorship of art
Blame it on the fanatics, I am sure normal religious people wouldn't mind it
@alexandervanderwal4070 that's the problem the fanatics are part of the government
@@kylelaughinghouse1893 That's why I choose not to be religious to avoid the fanatics.
They could have left the reasoning in without the allusions to Jesus. They took it out because it’s on the nose and it doesn’t make sense for the Engineer to take a moment for story time before he tries to kill everyone.
As a roman catholic, I would have like to see this in the film. It would have brought a lot of really interesting discussions. You have to step out of your comfort zone, out of the box....
Its in the film… 🤢
I agree. I'm a Catholic myself. But I'm also a fan of great story telling. That would of been a cool twist
I live in Brazil and have been researching UFO cases for years and I know that in many cases the beings seemed more SPIRITUALIZED
@@Xzigmawho the fuck is Yeshua?
Out of the coffin of fear me,pay me or die horribly illusions?
I’m a Christian, I’m not offended, I know the difference between Fiction and reality. How poor is someone’s faith if they feel threatened by this fictional speech in a science FICTION film? 🙄🙄🙄🙏🌈🇬🇧♥️
The fundamentalist Christians most offended by this sort of thing didn't go to see it despite the line's removal. Appeasing special interest groups of any persuasion is folly.
It isn't the long believing Christian who is most suseptible to deception... it is the young Christian and the uninformed. Objection to such deception by those more experienced in the ways of this world isn't being offended for their own sake, but for the sake of the young and naive. What is merely offensive to the elder Christian can be life altering for those whose faith and knowledge is yet undeveloped, so, taking offense and protesting such things is an effort by the elders to shield the young.
Your comment is my fire
@climbermatt556 Having observed life inside a fundamentalist Baptist church, I can say that the elder Christians certainly did see themselves as "sentinels" so to speak...but their vigilance too often manifested as overbearing arrogance, intolerance and hypocrisy.
@@climbermatt556 your entire religion is based off of indoctrinating the minds of children. if you're scripture is so flimsy and uninspiring that a teenager watching a sci-fi film turns secular then that's a problem with your church, not pop culture.
“Oh you are so barbaric, let me create this race of biological killing machines real quick”
They didn't create them, they discovered a technology that could eradicate the universe of life. As far as I'm concerned the black goo is a hyperdimensional form that interfaces with conscious will to create dream forms in reality. Of course a weapon could be created.
The creation, is of the creator. Thus in the same way, they were a primitive reflection of the engineers. IMO.
Yes, exactly. This and the religious angle just seem... hamfisted.
@@85walterrulez There is a ton of religious references in the Aliens series. Virgin births, Judas... LV 4:26
the aliens were intended to kill the earthlings
These are some heavy words for a dude whose entire species were killed off by their own biological weapons
Good point!
The weapons created life, they were supposed to start it all over again. Its funny how the android perverted it into the alien
bad script, not to mention an exteme genious race, woke up and act like mindless orc.
Just a bad script.. if intelligent species like that ship won’t even reach its atmosphere.
Engineers be like "hits you in the face with a decapitated android head"
That actually makes more sense.
Wish it was in the movie though
Sufficient evidence was that the ship was supposed to fly towards earth 2k years ago. (it's strange that they ended up on this ship since there were more of them) It's good that they did what they did, because then the film would have earned less and there would have been no further parts.
I don't think so, because if it was in the movie, it would go like this :
"So we just sent you one guy, with not much of power, so he tells you what we want. He was among thousands of other self-proclaimed prophets and you dared to not believe him. Also, all his paradise and hell stories were bs (obviously since we really are aliens) and you choose not to believe. How dare you !"
That would be so stupid, it would make fools of the Engineers and also, while we are at it, they call us barbarians but... arn't they the ones who created the Aliens as a weapon ?
Me Too, ❤ this movie
For real that whole movie has me confused this would have helped alot
It makes more sense because it's what you believe, in light of Annunaki saga and Hollywood programming.
I kept waiting for somebody
to refer to the engineers as
the Annunaki.
it answers the question of why they wanted to destroy humans
Why? I mean, whats the point? They cant sleep when people do occasional wars? I dont understand how advanced super alien race has a minset of emo girl
@@ardour1587 they know how dangerous and warmonger human is, but in the past, human still not capable of galaxy travel. Up to Prometheus, now human can travel around the galaxy, spreading as a virus, violent creature who only want war and dominance. The engine want to save the galaxy from human
@@ardour1587it wasn’t the occasional humans cannot get along look where we are today and most importantly, if they did send Jesus with all that knowledge, and they still killed him, they’re beyond saving, sometimes it’s better to just kill the garden and start fresh
@@ardour1587tell us you don’t understand the plot without telling us
@@user-xj4jh8ho4x plot my ass. Invent some "higher authority" (gods, super aliens, whatever) for yourself to be able to judge humanity like you have a right. After all its not aliens who wanted to nuke people but those people who made up aliens :) Go judge lions for eating lambs or in general be offended about nature of things [shrug] cheap and old trick. Ridley is an old idiot
That single speech answers a lot of questions. Would have made my jaw drop if this was left in the movie
How so? Its so stupid, so insolent and hubristic to try to explain the concept of God - so secular and atheistic 🤦
@@bellatordei3440 gonna cry?
It’s a movie mate calm down
Lol listen to the anunaki creation story, or the book of Enoch, or Sumerian creation story. It’ll make you wonder.
All pretty much prove Jesus, Moses, Noah, etc. just told in a different time with different people.
It would have been something, true. But i cannot see, why they couldnt film in a cryptic way (in order not to insult anyone). Its sad, that they did not include this in the film.
It would seem because of the cuts. To the script, they turned the engineers from benevolent. To the villains... Is so many closed mighty people in this world... I guess the engineers Were correct.
How tf does anyone think this is anything other than completely retarded? The engineers literally created Jesus Christ himself and filled his brain with alien knowledge and sent him down to earth? That's the laziest most fucking dogshit writing I've ever heard in my life thank god someone talked sense into them.
But unfortunately... we can't hurt anyone's "fee-wings."
It wouldnt make sense if it was in the movie
When Ridley Scott talks about this movie, he still tells this same story about the Engineers. While it isn’t discussed in the film, it’s looked at as if it’s just common knowledge that this is what happened
@@Shadowmanchronicleswhy you say that?
One of my biggest problems with prometheus is that they never explained why the engineers wanted to kill everyone on earth.
Same reason God did probably.
Wrath of god
thought it was pretty obvious
Perhaps because we did not fit in their plans for the place? Perhaps we turned out different from their vision. When someone becomes all powerful, they eventually start seeing the rest of the world as means to an end, and lives are taken very easily.
MY biggest problem with Promotheus is the extensive use of stupidity as a plot vehicle. Every significan turn of events is brought about by someones stupid actions.
Since when did Hollywood give a damn about the opinions/views of religious institutions? 🤔
Never he made it up
It's run by the church of science. Of course they don't want religious references, science fiction movie or not. They hate Jesus like most people and for no reason other than to blame their anger on something that has nothing to do what's wrong with the world sctientificly.
Let's think, which belief system is offended by this alliteration...could it be, a small group close to jordan?
@@Butchman2000who in turn runs hollyweird….
Ask Mel Gibson, he'll give you a nice answer.
Hollywood worried about religious implications but portray more controversial things every day...
Like Deadpool and Wolverine. 😂
Yeah, "Hollywood" isn't just one dude
The implications they wanted to avoid by cutting it out was who Christs killers were, they own Hollywood and that’s why it never made it into the final cut
A chaotic world doesn't offend them. A movie does.
You don’t think Christians aren’t offended by how shitty a world you secularists have made it?
On Point...
They didn’t want theatre’s bombed by people defending their religion of peace, love, and forgiveness.
Mm, yes. Because Christians are the ones known for bombing places. Definitely.
Absolutely Ruthlessly Correct 😅😅😅😅😅
Because All who claim to be the most peaceful are the most violent on the earth.
That would not have happened. Christians don't do that. You must be thinking of some other religion which also sprang from the Middle East.
If the engineers created humanity then they created barbarians.
That's not how it works. You are responsible for yourself. If you chose to be a barbarian then that's your free will in play and there will be consequences.
@@Troll_Hunterthat will be applicable on AI too.
Ai being sentient is a myth. Ultimately its programed by humans, and for it to go rogue or kill is a human programing into the machine in itself. All rogue programs were created to do so, not by their own choice. If you understand “Operation Northwoods” it makes much more sense.
The engineers made a misstake somewhere.
It is like sofware programming when the app do something different than you designed it for.
It reminds me of atheists who blame god for when they willingly chose to do wrong but then dont credit god for when they willingly do good
This is the Anunnaki
Dude, that's awesome. Im so glad someone noticed.
Life imitates art.
Anunnaki is earth name, race is EL, and some people know this.
@@nevrom25 there’s many different races and many work together for the light or for the dark
@@nevrom25 yes, it's earth name for them were The Anunnaki...mean "Those who came from heaven to earth."
But it's for all who come from heaven to earth. I'm sure they have individual names or sector names. ie insectoids, humanoids etc
Religious institutions have no problem offending others for the sake of their beliefs. They should have used this speech somewhere in the movie.
The religious institutions dont work under the same framework a movie does. If u want to sell, you acclimate to your buyers. Religion is not a sold product like a movie. They did the right thing and made more money in doing so. You're a dogmatic fool and will continue in your fruitless life until you perish and the world will rejoice.
But the the "religion of peace" might go out and do a boom boom
💥@@E4K9💥
Religious institutions have no control over how someone feels. I agree however this would had made for an interesting story line and made the movie make sense.
Allahu Akbar 👹😂
This should have been standalone movies not repeated to alien, that way Ridley would have realized his vision fully. The alien connection limited it
So you create beings, they disappoint you, so you kill them. Yep, sounds about right for gods.
Boundless love is creating something you know, in advance, will complain.
They do it all the time, right back to Utnapishtim in ancient Sumeria.
We are talking about species that knows no war trying to create another like them. But black goo they used was a replica of original substance and imperfect. In the end they created humans who in them have seed of mindless violence that is present in all creatures spawned from black goo. Imagine if humans tried to create more humans artificially and end result is basically goblins
we have free will and time. Many think time is the enemy but truly time is a boundary where man can indulge, and oppose. Satan sinned in eternity, man sinned in time which is why we have time to repent while still here because for humans we have a chance to be better.
@@teachmehacks AHHH sophistry. By the terms of the comic book scenario you described, humans are superior to all angels, devils and even God, because we can choose, worry and regret.
Omnipotent, eternal beings can't do those things, all is known, all is possible. That's why they're childish ideas.
The engineer seemed pretty violent in the movie unleashing a terrible plague on the earth that also kills all the other flora and fauna doesn’t sound too advanced or evolved
What your government do to animals.? You ignore it and tolerate it. In Dante inferno, there is part for neutral people. We must learn empathy to all living beings. Love right.? Show my your plate at xmass eve. 🙂
You soul can't work within toxic acidic body. Which is not made to procces meat. The way to your heart it's through your stomach.
From Bible, cave paintings to isis, and virgin. Biochemistry written in parables and alegories,. It's about you and your journey to reunion.
Western poison education to create consumers. Illusion of material existence That excludes the soul s
@@ninjanoku They didn't talk because the species was so evolved they could communicate telepathically. We would eventually be able to communicate the same way, after all we have the same DNA, we are just too young as a creation.
@@biznisman7049 I just think that saying there is a deleted line like this is a clickbait lie. We all wanted there to be some resolution that gave us “the answers” to life and the universe that satisfied the itch. But that wasn’t the point Prometheus was trying to make. When dude was playing pool with bishop and he asked why humans made him and the answer was “because we could”. Then he replied with something like well how disappointing would it be if that’s the answers you got. I’m not denying the points you’re trying to make about the characteristics of the engineers. I’m denying that there was any deleted line from the script because it wouldn’t make sense with the themes of the movie. Like this video is trying to claim that they abducted Jesus and sent him back?? lol that’s laughably retarded and would have killed the vibe of the movie.
@@ninjanoku
We had how many total minutes of them on screen? From that how many minutes was there any motivation to talk? David clearly decoded their language and the one engineer apparently understood. It’s also clear they really looked down on David and the humans and probably felt no reason to communicate to the lesser being
Kind of like how most (rational and sane) people probably don’t speak to the ants as they prepare to spray them when they start coming in the house in the summer
Sounds Biblical.
The Engineer complains about humanity being violent and reacts by ripping off a being’s head 😂
It was a robot, noat human that lost it's head :)
A facsimile of a human, an abomination.
But he smashed the old dude to death. So good point. This movie is amazing like Burger King. You enjoy everything until You digest it and You realise there is no real value in it.
The angel saw it as an abomination
@@bartoszulkowskitattoo I mean, he was on his way to destroy all life on earth. Why would killing one old guy be out of line. The lore in Prometheus is good, people just can't be happy with anything when they put something (Alien) on such a high pedestal and also have a lot of nostalgia attached to it as well.
How did the religious institutions hear about it if it wasn’t in the movie?
test audiences is what i would guess.
@@mitzmanuel test audiences of religious institutions.
Good point.
God told them.
The Jews
I thought it was pretty creative. I’m Christian; I’m Catholic but I still see this movie as an interesting adaptation of art for enjoyment. Nothing else.
This was a refreshing comment to read. I respect you.
God bless you, whichever god it is you have chosen
@@stephenfogerty9315 The Holy Trinity…
same
Pretty sure it wasn't the "religious institutions" offended, but more like PedoHollyweird
Are you actually kidding. Do you now how this would have increased the enjoyment of this film!
It would have made it better!
Its stupid and cringy
It's very insulting to Christians
It was obvious anyway.
@@xyaeiounn may be so but id find it more imersive.
Everything is logical and all until: You ask the Engineers who created them.
I love this, they should have kept it, it would have made the movie 40% better.
That's a specific number.
There were other countries and civilization besides jesus area.
42.66% repeating of course
Better for who - for the enemies of Christ?
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Sounds more like the story of Enoch.
I agree with you, brother. It is definitely the story of Enoch not Jesus.
Sounds more like Jesus a savior for human kind, sent back to educate the human species, Enoch story is fascinating but thats's it.
@@user-qs1ii5br7f you don't know the story of Enoch then. He gets brought to heaven, so that they can show him that God isn't cruel, and then he's told to go back to earth to tell people to repent. They don't show him the mysteries or anything like that. And when enoch is brought to the seventh heaven he isn't brought there with his mom or anything like that.
@@demmefrazier6629enoch is mentioned in the Bible 3 times.
And there was the book of Enoch that does seem to be removed from earlier translations fo Enoch.....
Them engineers be violent af too lmao weren’t we made in their image ? 😂
That's a great comeback. You could do a whole movie with Humanity reaching the level of the engineers and confronting them about their hypocrisy.
I would watch that@@andrefalksmen1264
They overcame that and hoped that we should too since we were created in their own image.
@@netwraith8215 did they really ? They looked pretty violent ripping that guys head off lol not to mention the genocide of a whole planet of other engineer like looking beings
@@jessicalynn7229 the engineer ripped the robots head off because he saw the robot as a perversion of humanity. Besides, it was not the engineer that virus bombed the planet of engineer looking people, it was the robot.
Yes. That whole scene is crazy without context included in the cut content.
All you see in the theatrical release is the engineer go mad and kill Weyland and tear apart David for no apparent reason.
The cut content has Weyland with David as interpreter ask the engineer for more life since he is dying old man. The whole backstory of man and the sheer audacity of Weyland to ask for more life maddens the engineer and does what we all see in the film.
"A mother's son" is such a gentle way to describe a man.
I thought they took Enoch to heaven and did all of this first?
@@rolandotorres9741 yes
and corny
He is not Jesus..... Jesus always call for Abba or Father, he is fathers son.
@@UR.CHRISTIANOooo….and therein lies the whole point being made…(🙄) Humans think they know the answers and kill each other for disagreeing. Congrats. Now please look into the pretty pulsing alien seed pod…..
It explains why they want to destroy humanity but it just boils down to “humans violent!” so it’s not like we were missing out on anything groundbreaking. Also, didn’t the engineers create the Xenomorphs? Aren’t the Xenomorphs one of the deadliest weapons in the galaxy?
Yup, they're bloody hypocrites.
Imagine if we as human builders and engineers got annoyed with our computer software or machines for not working as well as intended. Whose fault would that be?
They were created for the predators not humans
I thought the xenos had a home planet and the first xenomorph was created by humans?
David the android is the creator of xenomorohs thru experiments.cmon man it's obvious.😤@@Iron-Bridge
@@wayne20ukI read about it and there are different Stories..some are Canon and some are not. The Xenomorph-Planet is in the Comics..the Comics and Films have different backroundstories.
If Fede directed this, he would’ve kept the line in there to spite the people making a big deal out of it. We need more directors like Fede.
That line only disturbed 1 religious institution. The one responsible for killing Jesus.
And Brian.
So Christians? He was condemned to death by Pontius Pilate. Who was indeed a Christian to the extent of being a confessor and a martyr.
@@plundbohmAnd Brian's mother.
The one Jesus was a part of?
.... the Roman's?
Funny thing is that engineer then tries his best to kill most Christian person in the entire movie. If he saw her cross necklace he might have had some questions and calm down
Or it might have provoked him, seeing as though it's the torture device humans put their favored pupil on.
The only real Christian ever was Christ. The rest have been misguided.
Imagine Jesus was bludgeoned, and you had a club pendant on a chain around your neck....
@jamesgeorge4874 I saw a picture of all these bugs in a bug church. A bug priest was leading the service, and behind him hanging on a wall was a huge shoe with a squashed bug on it.
I don't think so, because they did not create the religion for humans. I don't think engineers recognize the meaning of cross nor care what it is. All they see is a problematic species even if Shaw wasn't Christian.
Look at the mural in the big head room, there is a xenomorph in the crucified position. Ridley was going this way from the start. The mural remained after they cut the idea out of the script.
Could you elaborate please
@@mindrover777 When they open the door with the decapitated guy on the floor, to the room with all the canisters, and the big head is on the floor. Everyone is just looking around and one of the crew shines his flashlight on the wall. Its a giant painting of a xenomorph like figure in a crucified position. It not to fast so you miss it but its not to long of a look either. just watch the scene again.
@@thinktwice3211not only that. The mentioned speech seems like an answer more and speech less. Which makes sense because Elizabeth Shaw did ask the questions. And moreover she was a believer. And also wore a cross. And she was the one who uncovered the mural. I have seen the scene.
@@AHModuckTube "What did we do, why do you hate us?" Shaw was on point, this could have been one of the best Alien movies, dropped the ball big time. I also hate what happened to Shaw all off camera in Covenant. Shaw could have been a trilogy hero. I'm sorry but I think Romulous is going to drop the ball again. I think they just need to move forward with Alien 5 soft reboot, all about the Aliens, and stop trying to add different sub species and even let the Aliens win a time or two.
@@AHModuckTube We also need a true Alien VS Predator movie with less humans. In the one comic, the Predators captured a queen and released her on a populated world and waited 10 years and came back to clear the planet. That was WW100!
Christians dont believe we could possibly be made from aliens but guys with wings on their backs that live in the sky is much more believable 😂😮
Uh. How did that line “disturb religious institutions” if it never made it into the final film? What, did they have a “religious institutions prescreen” of the first cut of the movie?😅
Probably had a pre-screening or one of the big wigs believed that would happen
Test audiences are used before the release of movies and shows
@@remylebeau5212 it wasn't filmed
People just say anything these days and you have idiots scrambling trying to make it make sense. You think the pope is afraid of Prometheus' draft script?
@@strozombie.01 he specifically says the line was cut so yes it was....🤦🏿♂️
Damn... even the engineers knew of our Barbarity!
But on the other hand, the engineers did not have the intellectual honesty to admit that they themselves belonged to a barbaric alien race.
I KNEW IT! When they were at the Alien Ship, the coordinates for Earth were punched in 2000 years ago. Meaning the Ship was to deliver the bioweapon 2000 years ago to punish Earth.
*Non-Christian religious institutions heard about it.*
@@Percival-kl9yyhow do you know they were non-Christian?
They should have kept it along with all that dialogue that was so important. So many people, especially hardcore Alien franchise fans found so many things to criticize about this flawed, but amazing movie anyway.
They couldve left it in witjout the religious language. Its basically saying the engineers are God and humanity is simply a failed experiment
No? Like, humans are their creation, they tried to teach them their ways, it wasn't a experiment, the Engineers tried their best to save us, but we killed their kind.
The movie makes 0 sense without that line.
The whole point of evolution is to give a species time to improve and perfect themselves, and if they don't make mistakes then there is nothing to learn from.
Killing members of the same species in the most horrible ways, for silly reasons, as well as all killing other life forms and the eco system of which they are dependent off, is not "the point of evolution". The best killers are not the goal.
The point of evolution is not to end evolution, by exterminating all advanced life. What made you think that?
Sure, once humans have detonated all nukes life will still exist on earth, but it will start from the beginning again, as it did 65 million years ago. And all the "progress" made from then until today will be gone.
Well we still making the same mistakes so I guess humanity will never learn. Folks is arguing about pro nouns there seems to be a war popping off every other day now people still spilling blood in the streets of what's supposed to be land of the free yet all I see is murder and hate over the dumbest of things. If anything we're going in reverse never forward to a better day. When will people learn money and social media is the root of all evil it's the reason why this shi will never end.
They don't expect humans to evolve. It's not what they had signed up for.
They created humanity to worship them and follow the way of life in their terms.
evolution isnt about perfection its about survival... plenty of animals have evolved themselfs into extinction.
@@Ma55ey Thats part of evolution. It will try any path possible and what doesnt work (survive) becomes extinct. Its why human history was so brutal: only the strong survived. Now we live in a time of comfort and we are seeing the weak rule. It wont end well.
It’s funny how such a small part could change the entire dynamic of a movie
There is a hint of this still in the movie. They say that the mummified head is around 2000 years old. I always thought this was a reference to Christ. When they decided to go back and destroy humanity after the murder of Christ that's when the accident happened and there was a leak in the facility.
It could also explain why there's been no apparent second coming of Christ or Armageddon. No one was alive after the accident to send him back or attack.
@@peterwale6821 Good call. I never picked up on that.
We set our clocks and calendars according to the birth of Christ. It's either the birth or his death.
@@peterwale6821that's direct attack towards the christendom! 😡
@@anthonybrettThat's direct attack towards the christendom! 😡
Disturbed religious institutions?? Dude, its just a movie! The script is created by modern humans lol
@@E4K9don’t like it bc it’s true. They’ve tried to hide to for thousands of years.
That's the point. Yet you throw in in our faces anyway.
"modern humans"
You mean, the They/Them people?
Religious groups can make or break a box office, just like China.
Movie makers need that money from both, just to break even.
Weirdly close to what Mormons believe too, intergalactic Jesus 😂
This line needs to be put back in a Director's cut version.🤔🤔
Why?
@@DavidHeffron78 why not
Yep, put it back in the movie….
Then have Shaw wish the Engineer a fun trip to Earth instead of having her crew t-bone his ship…..After all we’re on a mission to do it to ourselves…..
Let them clean up the mess they created here on Earth….Next….🤣
@@PersonausdemAllIt's stupid
@@bellatordei3440 no its fuuuunnnnyyyyyyyyyyyy⅜
Update: oh sorry, I just confused it with the remaster of Resident Evil 4. There were also sentences left out. For example, Leon's comment about Ashley falling on her butt.
I think there was a similar discussion under a video like this
My biggest complaint about Prometheus is that it is supposed to set before the events of alien by several decades, but for some reason, the technology of Prometheus seems far more advanced than anything in alien. Like the flying spheres used to map out the uncharted caves in Prometheus. Why couldn’t they use that to investigate the derilict ship in alien?
*Meanwhile, they leave the Predators alone....*
Admittedly, it might have been a cold war situation with them, neither species wanting to risk a war with the other...
Predators don’t exist in the ALIEN universe. The AVP universe is a totally separate continuity. Basically a _”What If…”_ alternate reality.
No anymore. Its been established since covenant came out it's part of avp. This is mentioned by the directors. The engineers created the xenomorphs to deal with predators. That's why they wanted to destroy humanity. Because human and engineer dna is same. Which makes everything the predators have been doing more sense. They have been using humans to evolve themselves. Both literally and genetically. They don't have access to the Black gooey thing so they use the closest thing they have access to.@@Gunnar001
The alien film are set on it own universe
I loved this movie from an entertainment standpoint and the questions it begged. It was much deeper than just running around tying to survive the monsters. I find the engineers absolutely fascinating and they should have their story told.
They absolutely should have left that line in. Give people something to think about.
They were offended because it sounded too real for them.
What? It’s because it replaces a god with an alien a species who created mankind, there’s a difference between something that’s been around for thousands of years and the story remained unchanged until today because we think we know it all after having 40 years worth of modern tech
Not really, I follow Jesus Christ, and am no where near what I call “ a good faith Christian” Everyone seems to respect others religions in entertainment, might do us good to respect everyone else’s. False idols are a big deal in anyone’s religion. I’m glad they kept it out.
@@thedude8247 Every religion follows a false idol.
Nah, the flying spaghetti monster is real @@ImYourHostVick3
Absolutely 👍🏻
This explanation solves the riddle everyone was left with after watching Prometheus
One of the best lines in movie history. Religious cults have no business in that what so ever.
Lol it's Blasphemy 😂😢 comparing God to aliens
@@RazaPlaysGames Blasphemy is using the pagan Pharaonic beliefs, and superimposing that onto God. Blasphemy is saying God had a son, then sacrificed that son for Us, humans. Blasphemy is making out God to be such a weak, fallible, imperfect character as you do. Worshipping a human. And you're talking about blasphemy. lol.
@@adamel-nagar8258you are the most ignorant commenter in the comment section. That is quite a feat. You very obviously have no clue what you are talking about. Parroting stupid things someone else told you isn't a viable substitute for intelligence.
@@RazaPlaysGamesbetter then comparing god to human. A powerful being not of earth and u religious heads call em demons. Blind to ur saviours, ur angels. 👽🛸👁
@RazaPlaysGames Yeah there are about 3.5 billion of you people. The 4.5 billion don't have to placate you.
“This line offended many religious institutions”
Yes, because they spend their time attending audience screenings of upcoming movies… 🧢
It's absolutely bs, we all know why they continue to place spirituality as a frustrating antagonist to gossip like this. It's so tiresome.
The line was taken out, but it was because the studio got cold feet. Not religious institutions. How would they even know if it wasnt even out yet. They definitely lying.
The scene wasn't even filmed... so no one screened it
Thank you was looking for this type of comment. The pope and gang didn't get special viewing.
He's talking about the jews.. IYKYK..
It would've been epic if they chose to keep that line
They should have kept this monologue in. It would have made the engineer's rage make sense instead of just making him a big angry brute for no apparent reason.
Religious institutions in paris olympic 2024:
Hold my bear 🍹
One of the most stupid excuses I've ever seen in my life. Hollywood has been mocking Christian institutions for decades! It's an excuse to try to justify one of the worst science fiction movie sequels ever written.
They should have left that line in the movie.
Insult Christians? Comment section: ok.
Insult islam? People: up in arms.
That's the difference between people following a teaching about turning the other cheek versus beheading anyone who disagrees with them.
This is not to offend, but to speak the truth. If the truth offends anyone, then they do not care about the truth nor do they search for it. That is the same reason why they employ violence and all manners of depravity to push their agenda. They want to see the world burn! 🔥
Because a Muslims' nuts aren't removed - we're not accepting ANY insulting of ANY Prophet or Messenger...and most certainly NOT The Creator of All nor His protected Book.....
Actually yoy know who tried to kill Jesus?
Ĵèŵ§.
Muslums came later, new so callee Christians followed him.
So it is ĵèŵ§ who payed Rome to kill him
@@erbaldwin1 care to read the comments and think for yourself.
@@erbaldwin1To all humans, really. Humans sinned, and the price of sin is death. So Jesus became human, He came to earth not with gold and fine linens but he was born in a dark, dirty sheep cave.
Jesus loves us so much He lowered himself to be level with humans and willingly paid the price of our sins and defeated death when He rose from the dead. Even then, humans still rejected Him, they hated Him.
They are blinded by the God of this world, Lucifer.
Islam, atheistic scientists, modern churches, modern entertainment and Sports have one thing in common. They tell you Jesus is not God, or Jesus does not exists, or "the rules of Church councils are more important than Jesus's", or "Watch my concert and my match I'm more important than Jesus". Lucifer is doing everything He can to distract humans from going to Jesus from every possible angle.
Humans have free will to make their own choices, and many of them do not choose Jesus.
This is the movie that needs to be seen worldwide that everyone needs to see
They should have left that in.
Folks this show is science fiction and entertainment, that's it.😉
Boy that engineer really came down on White Europeans people Maaan!
Should've been Africans, not Europeans.
This line could have added so much depth into their lore behind their creationist species. They should have kept the line in that would have made the engineers a way cooler entity in the alien lore.
Creativity should never be shuttered, as long as your ready to take the criticism or discord from a reviewing audience. We need to grow thicker skins
Should've left it in
How would this higher moral code jive with the engineers having made WMDs and such...
In the same way every utopist deals with real world facts: by ignoring it.
It’s the moral code of knowing to whom to use them against and when.
The movie needed this explanation. I remember watching it for the first time and thinking why didn’t they give an explanation as to why they hated us so much. It makes sense now.
This is very old news but I remember watching it in theaters and quickly googling trying to find out more info on the engineers and this came up. I was so mad they didn’t leave it in.
This was never written for the movie, this was a suggestion after the fact.
There was a deleted scene, david and the engineer are speaking sumarian, and it had subtitles
was you there?
@@KingV676 I was there. I remember it all. I was there the day that the legacy of GenX failed and Millennials changed history to suit their needs.
It was in the original script of Jon Spaihts.
It angered the Jews, not many religious institutions
the same Jews who betrayed and killed Him??
I already loved this movie but this would've made it 10x better. It explains so much and gives reasoning to the whole film itself.
It’s all in the 7 tablets of creation. They are the annunaki
As a man that believes that Jesus is the son of God. I’m glad this was cut.
Why? Lol movies like dogma are far worse.
@@CoperliteConsumer Your logic is flawed. As an observation, yes, Dogma is far worse, I didn’t like that one either. Lol
Interestingly this concept makes more sense than immaculate conception.
Truth will always be the most dangerous weapon known to man....
Religious institutions being offended is not because they want to ruin everything it’s because if you would read the Bible you would understand that Jesus is Creator not created. It a major misrepresentation of who He is. Context matters!
Too bad they didn't cut all of the lines and start back up from scratch
Fun fact, there is 30 years missing from the life of jesus in the bible
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Thoth , Egypt all kinds of things to think about.
Things were probably a lot simpler back then and there probably wasn't much to write about in his life during those years. Especially just wandering about and having random interactions with people. Not everything is a teachable moment to be written about, like getting a haircut. Lol.
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He went to England where His Uncle, Joseph of Arimethea introduced him to the mining of lead and copper
It's kind of funny to see that sad engineer like that, looking down, after we got to see that angry one 😂.
Normalize distrubing religious institutions
I don’t know if anybody’s ever heard of Billy Carson pretty famous. He’s on Joe Rogan’s podcast in the past month. This is his exact theory on who God really is basically an alien who came to earth to give teachings.
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A LOT OF PEOPLE HATE HIM, BUT I RESPECT HIM AND HIS RESEARCH
HAVE A GREAT DAY
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Thank god they cut that out 😂
Having ex players on here is great, but there’s something about having managers/ex managers on here that just hits different.
Is this a reflection of Toth and the anunaki
Stop dude, come on
Spirit Science and all that is BS, dude. You're smarter than this.
@@luryas626why should he? Just because you don't don't like it he should stop?
@@zacheryeckard3051and Jesus said to love your enemies and your neighbors. Religion is based on peace and love. Great job on showing you can't follow guidelines
@@luryas626in the beginning of of the movie they referenced Sirius A
It’s a bit sophomoric and I don’t think it’s real. Why would the engineers speak english? It would look ridiculous.
In the found early script he speaks in proto indoaryan (the first language of Europeans). This is translated by another person for everyone to hear.
Also religious institutions didn't care, he literally made that part up which is so weird
While fiction, this makes more sense than a virgin birth
Lv 223 the planet they went to. Leviticus chapter 22 verse 3. So many, missed so much in this movie. First, the planet the "engineer" drinks the goo and seeds an ocean is NOT Earth. The engineers were also created, by a preceding, more ancient race. Ridley scott has givin so much insight into this movie since its release. Still, so much has been missed.
I’m sure that I’m in the minority on this one but I really enjoyed the Engineer aspect of the Alien [prequel] franchise and was really looking forward to getting more backstory and context after Prometheus initially came out. The Face-huggers and Chest-bursters always provided for a thrilling/terrifying plot point, but adding a dimension of “what are they and how were they created?” really drove more intrigue and potential into the story.
I'm kinda glad it was left out, it would contradict the AVP story a bit.
No the line was not removed for the stated reason, it was simply an idea in an earlier draft of the script which was dropped as the creative process took the story in a different direction.
It is outright stupid to suggest that including such a plot point would be dangerous or that a modern movie studio would make such drastic changes to a script for fear of offending religious extremists .
As a Christian man, I wish they would have kept that line, it gives much more meaning to the film and also, there is no reason to be offended by anything, we are talking about a fiction film, nobody is attacking your religion.