The hand crossbow is amazing and going double poison bomb is hilarious as a meme weapon if you have the reload perk. Shutting down access points, firing it onto downed hunters and cornering hunters feels so good when it works.
Or even allowing the normal vetterli to get this sight... I mean if you look closely at the gun, the silencer sight is basically the normal one cranked up by like two notch.
@@ficroulaud Nitro isn’t worth the price tag anymore, I shot someone three times, one limb shot which he healed, then two body shots at like 40 meters which he tanked, it having good sights is the least they can do
Handcrossbow has become my absolute go-to secondary weapon if I want utility. It is so good. Poison bolts have helped me so many times to surprise others.
The silenced Vertterli is a really good addition to the game, a gap between the silenced winfield/spark, not to mention the ironsight is now much better Ps: 15:33 *shot Mike* "Oh shit that's Mike" *proceed to become pay-actor and miss every shot*
I agree on this loadout. Especially as someone that mainly runs solo. I've been enjoying the silent veterlli lately as well. I mainly run it with the spifire, for the ammo pool and also a solid close range weapon. I also love to slap FMJ on this for those juicy wallbangs. Well made video, Mike!
Love the 'Ripley's Believe it or Not' style cut-aways, like at 13:15... and the dramatic eyes 😂😂 Thanks for the tips man, I got back into this game again recently and you've been a big help.
My late game loadout for compound fighting is specter bayonet with slugs and the obrez mace, with that you dont need a melee tool and you can take traps, choke bombs, and medkit which is really strong. With this loadout I would bring a stam shot or two, with frag and vit shot.
Man, you're a hard working dude Mike especially during drop week :o I'm starting to understand that the principle is almost as important as the specifics in this game. Like, I just solo-outplayed a duo that should have had me cold but I heard a horse whinny, got my ordinance out early for damage and confusion, then Spectered one back to the lobby. Then the long engagement where I just needed to wing the surviving player once or twice with silenced-nagant/ poison fanning to finish off using the Specter. I know this is a totally different loadout but that's the point really: PVP/ PVE utility secondary with silence plus something that gives you the edge one to one for the push. After I'd calmed down I realised I felt like the hunter rather than the hunted for the first time. Thanks man.
Have you noticed, that at the very end of the cycling animation 11:46 there's a few millisecond misalignment between animation and actual rate of fire. You're not even looking down the sights, yet it looks almost like you're shooting with the gun tilted if you try to shoot at max speed. Only relevant for Iron Sharpshooters and the Vetterli and I'd like to see this little detail adjusted
I just wanna say thank you for your videos! I love this game, I've only been playing for a year, I'm constantly learning new things. I've learned a lot of tips from your videos.
I use this build, but with poison and smoke bolt. This greatly expands the possibilities and range of options that can be applied in the game. In this case, it is imperative to take a large antidote syringe from consumables. And it seems to me that the knife is still better, because armored and inferno are killed with a crossbow (posion/smoke bolt), and dogs can cause quite a few problems if you use knuckles, and in close combat the knife is much more effective and simpler.
Small Crossbow is sadly a leave reason for others in random matching. At all you said, it also solve crows and ducks. I take poison bombs with, they can clean caged animals if thrown in a high bow in the middle. If u dont hit the lantern... Nice ratly is the vetterly tracer ammo, chasing down hunters undetected waiting for them pass a red barrel... rare but easy kills. Also it gives a good feedback in leading shots. Well the high speed ammo works good in the dead eye also the marksman vetterli, to me. I noted that even a single silenced winni tracer shot kills a woody or hive even far above the headshot range. Some couple double crossbow hunters where sunk in the swamp until i enabled a usable scb handling^^ But its worth it.
Vetterli silencer with flame ammo, then take pax or other medium ammo sidearm ALSO with flame ammo so you get a ton of ammo from special ammo crates. It murders in PVE and it is super disorienting in PVP, you shoot people and they panic, the flame effect makes it difficult to determine where the shot come from and it can drop with two shot. Also your pax sidearm with fanning is a nice bonus if you get in trouble. Last part of this winning stealth formula is to play smart by not getting into direct gunfights and to run away a lot. Just be annoying and you will have great success. Most gunfights you get into should involve shooting people in the back while they are fighting other teams.
I'm a bit surprised frontiersman wasn't listed on the trait list. Is it too expensive? I mean, that's another 2 traps, not to mention more healing in a pinch situation. But, if you feel it's too expensive that's fair.
Well, you see, Pack Mule and Vulture are overall better; especially as your skill progresses. Eventually you will have a surplus of restock both from kills and map drops (RNG I know, but still there is a lot of ammo and health for the most part) Although, yes, Frontiersman is at its most useful as a solo and benefits traps above the other tools. Traps replace teammates and the lack of 2 guns affects the kills and probabilities of hunters to loot mid gunfights for Pack Mule... However, the deciding factor is Stealth and Skill. If you are confident you can drop people to keep Pack Mule...packing (sorry, pun) then you can skip on Fronstierman for a trait that can't be overcome by skill like Doctor, Lighfoot or Poacher. I notice a lot of low stars crutch on Frontiersman and skip on things more critical like Docotor or Kite Skin...Really, having one extra T.Axe is not the same as mobility, map control or increase of the times you can get chest shot. If you argue the case of the extra medkit then you aren't packing enough health syringes for your individual skill cap. They are dirt cheap for a reason.
Imo on this loadout HV or FMJ would be a mistake. Using special ammo means giving up on a huge part of the Silencerllis utility value since you cant afford to waste that much ammo. When using a medium ammo sidearm with the same type of special ammo HV/FMJ really shine on the vetterli though.
Been using a loadout just like this as a solo for a while. Only difference is I bring high velocity ammo with the veterli and I’ll get quartermaster to bring a shotty as an emergency close range killer
I was just playing this loadout recently and I was often taking high velocity ammo. Makes headshots easier at long range. You have to conserve ammo a bit, but I don't think I ever really ran out. I know that if you get used to leading targets, you might say that MV does not matter that much, but in some situations it can make a big difference. One such situation is when you know that the enemy is behind cover, you correctly guess where exactly they will peek and as soon as they peek out you shoot exactly where their head has popped out, but the bullet is literally so slow that their head is back in cover before it gets there. This actually happened to me several times with the silenced Vetterli until I switched do High velocity. And the recoil is honestly hardly noticeable, I couldn't even tell. And you are easily back on target before cycling the bolt.
I just started the game a few weeks ago and I mainly play solo so I haven't bothered fighting bosses too much but I gotta say I've been using that poison the last couple days and it makes killing bosses so easy, I started playing with my friend and we will usually just throw some poison down and hit the boss with sledgehammers after it passes through the poison and it works wonders
Always use axes over sledgehammers when available. Axes have higher base damage and take a third of your max stamina per hit while sledges take half (i.e. 3 hits with axe and only 2 with sledge to run out of stam). Axes also have a quicker attack animation.
Good loadout. But as soon as I manage to reach home base (got caught by 2 consecutive quarantines away from home, feel for me) I'm playing my favourite meme: full explo x-bow and a shank (saber). Oh funfunfun, can't wait!
One of my favorite loadouts is something samewhat simmilar: Label Aperture or Martini Deadeye (when eco) Hand Crossbow (normal+poision) Throwing Axes, Medkit, Deringer, Alert Trip Traps Consumable as preferred. Traits: Determination and Frontiersman is key here as you get a lot of additional Tools. It's fun to play but a bit difficult. I like Axes as they kill normal zombie even when tired. Martini + Derringer is also fun. But Label Aperture is my guilty pleasure. My true love. If only Sacrosanct was not as pretty of a skin for Martini. :P P.S. I'm a Twitch drop leach again! Hre hre hre!
yeah agreed with the fmj vs high velocity debate.i tried to play the veterli either way it messes up your aim badly.now i use high velocity only on officer carbine.becouse that gun needs it.spitfire is a beast if you play a lot with it.but i like the hipfire spread on precision also for quic pick ups.
I've probably got more kills now from the hxbow than any other weapon. Before the buffs I thought it was good, now it's just nasty. It used to be the knife for me, as sometimes I'd miss and get the panic kills with knife. But anymore, I'm pretty sure hxbow has overtaken it. After I kill them and see an upgrade for the hxbow, I want to take it, but the thing is, it beat whatever they had, so it's like... Mhmm. Guess I'll just burn, then.
Hand crossbow is the most underrated weapon in Hunt. Poison bolts take care of ANY AI and are huge for boss DPS (besides spider) my go to secondary every match.
It feels really bad in PvP without Bolt Thrower and new hunters is when I want to use it so I can swap to a more expensive secondary I find. Wish they made BT base reload speed and scrapped the trait.
I disagree with you both immensely. It’s a one tap to the chest from a reasonable range. ,If you can’t hit shots then your in trouble, but the same can be said for any gun.
Love the loadout, one of my favorites tho is: Winnie vandal (fmj) with bow After the first match i get my general traits (doc, phys, etc), and dead-eye master and steady hand (yeah yeah... laugh...) and swap my winnie vandal for a winnie dead-eye If the hunter survives another game i takr quarter master and bolt thrower, you guessed it, crossbow time
@@THEbROCKol A little surprised you don't take the nagant dead-eye, since the cyclic rate is better and the scope sway is non-existent. Sure you lose FMJ but getting a third bullet out the barrel is worth more in my opinion.
@@LunoeShadow it is, and within 30 meters range nag dead-eye is better, but as soon as you factor in compact pistol damage drop-off you'll need more than 2 shots to the torso, while windfield still has compact rifle damage drop-off, improved by fmj. Oh and past 70 meters you will hit out of range headshot with nagant dead-eye... yeah that is horrendous
I have such a hard time choosing the hand crossbow over the silenced nagant with poison- it is worse with dogs and with water devils, which are the main two reasons I bring a poisoned nagant. Its a lot worse vs players than the hand crossbow is though, so thats probably the biggest trade off.
I used to always pick the Silenced Nagant over the Hand Crossbow, but having a weapon that can 1HK to the torso at close range is just too compelling of an argument for me not to take the HK. Being able to shut down a pushing shotgun with one quick body shot from a 1-slot secondary is just priceless.
Yes, by all means get people to play even more stealthy :-D so many people actively push and fight and never run away from fights whatsoever, so a little more inspiration to play rat is definitely what we need :-p
Great video Mike, as always. Do you know how much the 2 tap range is increased by using fmj on the silenced vetterli? I cant really find a reliable source :D Btw, I would really recommend getting beastface for 3 points on this, I really cant count how often I ran out of a bush or something right into a pack of crows who immediately started yelling the sh** out of their lungs.
Ahaha, as soon as I saw this my immediate thought was "OK, but what about shotbolt?" Glad you addressed that right away :) Any idea if the devs know about poison traps not giving kill credits as of 1.7.2? *edit: Also, the first con you list you mention silenced WINFIELD, not vetterli ;)
Hey man, really love your videos as always! Only one little konstructive comment, say fourteen and fourty more distinguished, your often misunderstood there :)
27:48 do you also get credit for the kill if you instantly leave, as in before he gets killed by your traps? Or only if you wait with exiting the game?
@@kevvdo2851 if you hide behind a corner with a saber and load up a attack nobody hears you and you get the drop on them. It’s work rather well for me. But to each they own.
Long time viewer here, I was always wondering if there's a particular reason I never see you using/showcasing the Knuckle Knife in your loadouts? Maybe I missed it, or missed the explanation, I'm only watching you on YT :)
@@PsychoghostGaming But why tho :D Personaly, I hate not having a tool for Immolators, that is true, but I find 4 light swings with KKnife quite as effective as dusters, but with additional opportunity to deal stab damage if need be, am I missing something? :)
With Poison Bolts, Antidote is almost required! Mithradatist helps, but A, it's expensive, and B, it STILL poisons you for a bit, which can be lethal in a firefight! I mean, you could also just not run through your own clouds, but sometimes against Bosses and Hunters, you don't have a choice. Edit: Also, FMJ is shockingly good for the Silenced Vetterli! The decreased damage drop-off and penetration makes up for the reduced velocity, so long as you're used to it!
When calling this „stealth solo guide“ I‘d assume that the traits should focus on this topic as well. So not seeing e.g. Whispersmith, Poacher, Mythical Dentist and even Poison Sense (at least when using handcrossbow with poison) does not make sense to me. Don‘t get me wrong, great guide as always, the recommended traits are on the top tier list, but regarding the topic of this video these are missing in my opinion :)
I've been loving all the new medium ammo variants that have been coming out. That said I think the pax needs some love. A Pax with knuckles would be fantastic. Or a long barrel Pax that increases bullet velocity but lowers handling
after quitting hunt a few weeks ago after a horrible weekend of just me dying every game without ever being able to participate in any fight I went back to play a few rounds this week. no game plan, no "loadouts" just whatever the free hunter threw at me. got a romero and handcrossbow in my second round. 3 handcrossbowkills later and my joy for hunt was back. so i guess for me its fuck loadouts and play to have fun
Concerning iron sharpshooter: aboslutely key on Vetterli, less needed on either Lebel and Mosin. reference: th-cam.com/video/jBRPJRFWK18/w-d-xo.html AFAIK the berthier also gains a lot of fire rate but I'm not too sure about how much.
Hey Mike another great video just wanted to say i really appriciate the fine work you do. If u ever consider video editor hit me up. I'm not a pro yet so won't charge anything just the experiance is enough. Either way have a great day mate :)
It might sound strange for hunt, but does anybody know if the deathsound of crows if you poison them is client based, because I had it multiple times, that my mate killed crows right next to me and I only heard the sound of the poison bolt, choke or fire
@@PsychoghostGaming ok but like with the same penalties that silenced rifle would have, and I mean the only shotgun I really see this working would be the Ramiro and with the suppressor you could increase spread to make it less reliable at range for balancing, idk just rly only had any real success with shot guns in the game and it still ends up getting me killed alot of the time I'd be completely content with having to get a few feet closer to get a kill shot. But I'm also super curious as to why you'd think it'd be unbalanced.
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Why is he placing the poison trap before the concertina trap?
I tried both orders and concertina first always made more damage.
The hand crossbow is amazing and going double poison bomb is hilarious as a meme weapon if you have the reload perk. Shutting down access points, firing it onto downed hunters and cornering hunters feels so good when it works.
And kills bosses super fast if it’s not spider. I’ve been bringing it ALOT now
I just want Winnie and Sparks to get the same iron sights as veterli silenced.
I agree, but then again, this makes the vetterli special
Let's get rid of the nitro express sight while we are at it
@@deadzeddicious3684 it is the only medium ammo silenced gun. Isn't that special enough?
Or even allowing the normal vetterli to get this sight... I mean if you look closely at the gun, the silencer sight is basically the normal one cranked up by like two notch.
@@ficroulaud Nitro isn’t worth the price tag anymore, I shot someone three times, one limb shot which he healed, then two body shots at like 40 meters which he tanked, it having good sights is the least they can do
Handcrossbow has become my absolute go-to secondary weapon if I want utility. It is so good. Poison bolts have helped me so many times to surprise others.
The silenced Vertterli is a really good addition to the game, a gap between the silenced winfield/spark, not to mention the ironsight is now much better
Ps: 15:33 *shot Mike* "Oh shit that's Mike" *proceed to become pay-actor and miss every shot*
I agree on this loadout. Especially as someone that mainly runs solo. I've been enjoying the silent veterlli lately as well. I mainly run it with the spifire, for the ammo pool and also a solid close range weapon.
I also love to slap FMJ on this for those juicy wallbangs.
Well made video, Mike!
Love the 'Ripley's Believe it or Not' style cut-aways, like at 13:15... and the dramatic eyes 😂😂
Thanks for the tips man, I got back into this game again recently and you've been a big help.
My late game loadout for compound fighting is specter bayonet with slugs and the obrez mace, with that you dont need a melee tool and you can take traps, choke bombs, and medkit which is really strong. With this loadout I would bring a stam shot or two, with frag and vit shot.
Man, you're a hard working dude Mike especially during drop week :o I'm starting to understand that the principle is almost as important as the specifics in this game. Like, I just solo-outplayed a duo that should have had me cold but I heard a horse whinny, got my ordinance out early for damage and confusion, then Spectered one back to the lobby. Then the long engagement where I just needed to wing the surviving player once or twice with silenced-nagant/ poison fanning to finish off using the Specter. I know this is a totally different loadout but that's the point really: PVP/ PVE utility secondary with silence plus something that gives you the edge one to one for the push. After I'd calmed down I realised I felt like the hunter rather than the hunted for the first time. Thanks man.
Have you noticed, that at the very end of the cycling animation 11:46 there's a few millisecond misalignment between animation and actual rate of fire. You're not even looking down the sights, yet it looks almost like you're shooting with the gun tilted if you try to shoot at max speed.
Only relevant for Iron Sharpshooters and the Vetterli and I'd like to see this little detail adjusted
2:08 Nice one! With the Vetterli being a Swiss rifle and all that! ^^
I just wanna say thank you for your videos! I love this game, I've only been playing for a year, I'm constantly learning new things. I've learned a lot of tips from your videos.
I use this build, but with poison and smoke bolt. This greatly expands the possibilities and range of options that can be applied in the game. In this case, it is imperative to take a large antidote syringe from consumables. And it seems to me that the knife is still better, because armored and inferno are killed with a crossbow (posion/smoke bolt), and dogs can cause quite a few problems if you use knuckles, and in close combat the knife is much more effective and simpler.
I love the vet. Have since I started playing back in late 2019.
Small Crossbow is sadly a leave reason for others in random matching.
At all you said, it also solve crows and ducks.
I take poison bombs with, they can clean caged animals if thrown in a high bow in the middle.
If u dont hit the lantern...
Nice ratly is the vetterly tracer ammo, chasing down hunters undetected waiting for them pass a red barrel... rare but easy kills.
Also it gives a good feedback in leading shots.
Well the high speed ammo works good in the dead eye also the marksman vetterli, to me.
I noted that even a single silenced winni tracer shot kills a woody or hive even far above the headshot range.
Some couple double crossbow hunters where sunk in the swamp until i enabled a usable scb handling^^
But its worth it.
Vetterli silencer with flame ammo, then take pax or other medium ammo sidearm ALSO with flame ammo so you get a ton of ammo from special ammo crates. It murders in PVE and it is super disorienting in PVP, you shoot people and they panic, the flame effect makes it difficult to determine where the shot come from and it can drop with two shot. Also your pax sidearm with fanning is a nice bonus if you get in trouble. Last part of this winning stealth formula is to play smart by not getting into direct gunfights and to run away a lot. Just be annoying and you will have great success. Most gunfights you get into should involve shooting people in the back while they are fighting other teams.
I'm a bit surprised frontiersman wasn't listed on the trait list. Is it too expensive? I mean, that's another 2 traps, not to mention more healing in a pinch situation. But, if you feel it's too expensive that's fair.
It's good, like a LOT of traits ;)
Well, you see, Pack Mule and Vulture are overall better; especially as your skill progresses. Eventually you will have a surplus of restock both from kills and map drops (RNG I know, but still there is a lot of ammo and health for the most part)
Although, yes, Frontiersman is at its most useful as a solo and benefits traps above the other tools. Traps replace teammates and the lack of 2 guns affects the kills and probabilities of hunters to loot mid gunfights for Pack Mule...
However, the deciding factor is Stealth and Skill. If you are confident you can drop people to keep Pack Mule...packing (sorry, pun) then you can skip on Fronstierman for a trait that can't be overcome by skill like Doctor, Lighfoot or Poacher.
I notice a lot of low stars crutch on Frontiersman and skip on things more critical like Docotor or Kite Skin...Really, having one extra T.Axe is not the same as mobility, map control or increase of the times you can get chest shot. If you argue the case of the extra medkit then you aren't packing enough health syringes for your individual skill cap. They are dirt cheap for a reason.
Frontiersman is good on any loadout. I think that is why it wasn't mentioned.
Why is he placing the poison trap before the concertina trap?
I tried both orders and concertina first always made more damage.
how about Poacher for possible trait? placing your traps quietly while getting pushed can be a game changer
Yap
I've been rocking the HV rounds on the silenced Vet. It's been good to me. 200 m/s increase isn't anything to overlook.
Imo on this loadout HV or FMJ would be a mistake. Using special ammo means giving up on a huge part of the Silencerllis utility value since you cant afford to waste that much ammo.
When using a medium ammo sidearm with the same type of special ammo HV/FMJ really shine on the vetterli though.
I use this same load out and I use regular bolts and chaos bolts for the added effect of forcing enemies to reposition if they fall for the chaos bolt
Vetterli Silenced is so good, even hip fire on the thing is amazing.
Been using a loadout just like this as a solo for a while. Only difference is I bring high velocity ammo with the veterli and I’ll get quartermaster to bring a shotty as an emergency close range killer
30:38 oh dude, silenced vetterli with fmj is like shooting through a jelly, you can almost see a bullet in mid-air
Redemption for the Vetterli! Such an underrated gun
I was just playing this loadout recently and I was often taking high velocity ammo. Makes headshots easier at long range. You have to conserve ammo a bit, but I don't think I ever really ran out.
I know that if you get used to leading targets, you might say that MV does not matter that much, but in some situations it can make a big difference. One such situation is when you know that the enemy is behind cover, you correctly guess where exactly they will peek and as soon as they peek out you shoot exactly where their head has popped out, but the bullet is literally so slow that their head is back in cover before it gets there. This actually happened to me several times with the silenced Vetterli until I switched do High velocity. And the recoil is honestly hardly noticeable, I couldn't even tell. And you are easily back on target before cycling the bolt.
thanks for this showcase Mike I will definitely use this as a warm up type loadout
I just started the game a few weeks ago and I mainly play solo so I haven't bothered fighting bosses too much but I gotta say I've been using that poison the last couple days and it makes killing bosses so easy, I started playing with my friend and we will usually just throw some poison down and hit the boss with sledgehammers after it passes through the poison and it works wonders
Always use axes over sledgehammers when available. Axes have higher base damage and take a third of your max stamina per hit while sledges take half (i.e. 3 hits with axe and only 2 with sledge to run out of stam). Axes also have a quicker attack animation.
@@Dedicated0 Good to know I'll definitely keep that in mind, thanks
Good loadout. But as soon as I manage to reach home base (got caught by 2 consecutive quarantines away from home, feel for me) I'm playing my favourite meme: full explo x-bow and a shank (saber). Oh funfunfun, can't wait!
I have been using this kit for a few weeks now. Its a powerful combo.
One of my favorite loadouts is something samewhat simmilar:
Label Aperture or Martini Deadeye (when eco)
Hand Crossbow (normal+poision)
Throwing Axes, Medkit, Deringer, Alert Trip Traps
Consumable as preferred.
Traits: Determination and Frontiersman is key here as you get a lot of additional Tools.
It's fun to play but a bit difficult. I like Axes as they kill normal zombie even when tired. Martini + Derringer is also fun. But Label Aperture is my guilty pleasure. My true love. If only Sacrosanct was not as pretty of a skin for Martini. :P
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I'm a Twitch drop leach again! Hre hre hre!
Hand crossbow is fucking great with bolt thrower.
yeah agreed with the fmj vs high velocity debate.i tried to play the veterli either way it messes up your aim badly.now i use high velocity only on officer carbine.becouse that gun needs it.spitfire is a beast if you play a lot with it.but i like the hipfire spread on precision also for quic pick ups.
Personally, I take Doctor and Physician before anything else. Then Packmule and Frontiersman next. After that, it's loadout specific or QOL traits.
I always carry decoy fuses with this, flash and antidote shot. Helps me rotate and such lol. Whenever I forget the antidote it kills me lol
Hand-x-bow is really strong and fun to play, I appreciate to see it in one of your leadout video =)
this is one of my favorite loadouts, but i am a big fan of the handxbow ngl.
I would like to see a silenced Springfield Compact. Springfield needs some love. Almost never see it used.
Just started the video and I already love it keep up the good work
i have play this alot the last year, so much fun
I have clip with crocodile skin as a solo farming and bully trios😅
I've probably got more kills now from the hxbow than any other weapon. Before the buffs I thought it was good, now it's just nasty. It used to be the knife for me, as sometimes I'd miss and get the panic kills with knife. But anymore, I'm pretty sure hxbow has overtaken it.
After I kill them and see an upgrade for the hxbow, I want to take it, but the thing is, it beat whatever they had, so it's like... Mhmm. Guess I'll just burn, then.
game of thrones music in the intro background? nice ;)
Music is in the description :D
Hand crossbow is the most underrated weapon in Hunt. Poison bolts take care of ANY AI and are huge for boss DPS (besides spider) my go to secondary every match.
It feels really bad in PvP without Bolt Thrower and new hunters is when I want to use it so I can swap to a more expensive secondary I find. Wish they made BT base reload speed and scrapped the trait.
ya but the biggest threat in the game are players, which the bow is terrible with.
I disagree with you both immensely. It’s a one tap to the chest from a reasonable range. ,If you can’t hit shots then your in trouble, but the same can be said for any gun.
i love that the loadout is my normal loadout that i use because its cheap and effective
I love these "Ok, im dead but this Dude in a Second" Clips :D
I love to play this but with chaos and poison bolts in the hancrossbow ;)
Love the loadout, one of my favorites tho is:
Winnie vandal (fmj) with bow
After the first match i get my general traits (doc, phys, etc), and dead-eye master and steady hand (yeah yeah... laugh...) and swap my winnie vandal for a winnie dead-eye
If the hunter survives another game i takr quarter master and bolt thrower, you guessed it, crossbow time
I hope you mean steady aim, because steady hand doesn't affect Vandal.
@@cyrilmercer3925 no, steady hand affects windfield dead-eye, i can assure, with it is actually non painful to use it
@@THEbROCKol A little surprised you don't take the nagant dead-eye, since the cyclic rate is better and the scope sway is non-existent. Sure you lose FMJ but getting a third bullet out the barrel is worth more in my opinion.
@@LunoeShadow it is, and within 30 meters range nag dead-eye is better, but as soon as you factor in compact pistol damage drop-off you'll need more than 2 shots to the torso, while windfield still has compact rifle damage drop-off, improved by fmj. Oh and past 70 meters you will hit out of range headshot with nagant dead-eye... yeah that is horrendous
Just received the Twitchdrop from your livestream Mike. Thanks for keeping that up ;)
Nice, again! Thank you
I have such a hard time choosing the hand crossbow over the silenced nagant with poison- it is worse with dogs and with water devils, which are the main two reasons I bring a poisoned nagant. Its a lot worse vs players than the hand crossbow is though, so thats probably the biggest trade off.
I used to always pick the Silenced Nagant over the Hand Crossbow, but having a weapon that can 1HK to the torso at close range is just too compelling of an argument for me not to take the HK. Being able to shut down a pushing shotgun with one quick body shot from a 1-slot secondary is just priceless.
Yes, by all means get people to play even more stealthy :-D so many people actively push and fight and never run away from fights whatsoever, so a little more inspiration to play rat is definitely what we need :-p
Good, here you go
Definitely gonna have to try this. Do you find it a good idea to knife rush if you miss a hand crossbow shot?
If they have a rifle, maybe :D
You did a reffew video on the Vetterli? Nice. Gonna check that out.
Outdated tbh
@@PsychoghostGaming It was just a joke about the REFFJU pronounciation 😁
Hope everyone has a great day.
Great video Mike, as always.
Do you know how much the 2 tap range is increased by using fmj on the silenced vetterli?
I cant really find a reliable source :D
Btw, I would really recommend getting beastface for 3 points on this, I really cant count how often I ran out of a bush or something right into a pack of crows who immediately started yelling the sh** out of their lungs.
Ahaha, as soon as I saw this my immediate thought was "OK, but what about shotbolt?" Glad you addressed that right away :)
Any idea if the devs know about poison traps not giving kill credits as of 1.7.2?
*edit: Also, the first con you list you mention silenced WINFIELD, not vetterli ;)
Hey man, really love your videos as always! Only one little konstructive comment, say fourteen and fourty more distinguished, your often misunderstood there :)
I think that both the Winnie and Sparks could be better silenced weapons if the sights were improved.
Hi Mike you are now my fav Hunt player! Lots of love bud!
27:48 do you also get credit for the kill if you instantly leave, as in before he gets killed by your traps? Or only if you wait with exiting the game?
You have to be in the game until he dies to get the credit
Thoughts on this loadout as a non-stealth variant? I.e. with Vetterli Bayonette
Does it *need* to be stealth, or can it work running loud?
Works loud too :)
the spitfire honestly seems to be an auto include in medium ammo loadouts right now, but that's just me
To be fair you don't use fanning on a lemat! Always chain pistol 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥🔫
Silent killer is a pretty good trait for stealth as well
nah waste of points. if you melee kill a grunt it still screams
@@kevvdo2851 if you hide behind a corner with a saber and load up a attack nobody hears you and you get the drop on them. It’s work rather well for me. But to each they own.
Does Bulwark work against the explosive crossbow?
Long time viewer here, I was always wondering if there's a particular reason I never see you using/showcasing the Knuckle Knife in your loadouts? Maybe I missed it, or missed the explanation, I'm only watching you on YT :)
Knife and Dusters > Knuckle :)
@@PsychoghostGaming But why tho :D
Personaly, I hate not having a tool for Immolators, that is true, but I find 4 light swings with KKnife quite as effective as dusters, but with additional opportunity to deal stab damage if need be, am I missing something? :)
With Poison Bolts, Antidote is almost required! Mithradatist helps, but A, it's expensive, and B, it STILL poisons you for a bit, which can be lethal in a firefight!
I mean, you could also just not run through your own clouds, but sometimes against Bosses and Hunters, you don't have a choice.
Edit: Also, FMJ is shockingly good for the Silenced Vetterli! The decreased damage drop-off and penetration makes up for the reduced velocity, so long as you're used to it!
When calling this „stealth solo guide“ I‘d assume that the traits should focus on this topic as well. So not seeing e.g. Whispersmith, Poacher, Mythical Dentist and even Poison Sense (at least when using handcrossbow with poison) does not make sense to me.
Don‘t get me wrong, great guide as always, the recommended traits are on the top tier list, but regarding the topic of this video these are missing in my opinion :)
Poacher is worth it in this build. The rest … is kinda meh imo :)
I cant imagine how long it takes to you to make a new stealth vid 🖤
I've been loving all the new medium ammo variants that have been coming out.
That said I think the pax needs some love. A Pax with knuckles would be fantastic. Or a long barrel Pax that increases bullet velocity but lowers handling
4:05 Does this also include the frag bomb arrows?
I think so, yes. And the sticky bomb.
Do u think winie silencer need ironsight change compared to veterly
I mean veterly is bether in everything
Why is he placing the poison trap before the concertina trap?
I tried both orders and concertina first always made more damage.
That sure was a gud video 😎👏
after quitting hunt a few weeks ago after a horrible weekend of just me dying every game without ever being able to participate in any fight I went back to play a few rounds this week. no game plan, no "loadouts" just whatever the free hunter threw at me. got a romero and handcrossbow in my second round. 3 handcrossbowkills later and my joy for hunt was back. so i guess for me its fuck loadouts and play to have fun
good story , nobody gives a f***
I don't know why but the Vetterli is the weapon I struggle the most with hitting my shots 🤷♂️
High velocity ammo makes it stupidly easy to hit your shots
I agree for me it's because I tried getting used to the unsilenced variants irons and now can't transition to the silenced. stuck in the middle lol.
Concerning iron sharpshooter: aboslutely key on Vetterli, less needed on either Lebel and Mosin. reference: th-cam.com/video/jBRPJRFWK18/w-d-xo.html
AFAIK the berthier also gains a lot of fire rate but I'm not too sure about how much.
Hey Mike another great video just wanted to say i really appriciate the fine work you do. If u ever consider video editor hit me up. I'm not a pro yet so won't charge anything just the experiance is enough. Either way have a great day mate :)
Do you have any t shirts ???? (I'm a big fan )
Merch link in the description :)
26:30 Damn, why don't I ever get theses smart player...
Hello Mike, third comment this time yaay. Thank you for the drops and guides! Good luck in the bayou
what your consumable look like when you go budget with this loadout ?
small vit shots then. that's all :)
@19:00 you missed him lol
Imagne crytek gave us veterli sil legendary skin 😏
It might sound strange for hunt, but does anybody know if the deathsound of crows if you poison them is client based, because I had it multiple times, that my mate killed crows right next to me and I only heard the sound of the poison bolt, choke or fire
You should hear both
@@PsychoghostGaming Thank you, maybe I have to pay closer attention next time.
13:46 arent dead hunters feet meant to point towards whomever killed them?
Most of the time
how do you get the silencer ?
Play the regular Vetterlis
If I kill soemone with a trap 80% of the time it does not give me a kill
Bugged right now!
@@PsychoghostGaming I thought so but wasn’t sure thanks for the reply!
Crosbow i play now big and smal crosbow i got 20kils in 3 game 😂
Am I the only one that thinks silenced shotguns should be a thing?
Might be a bit unbalanced ;)
@@PsychoghostGaming ok but like with the same penalties that silenced rifle would have, and I mean the only shotgun I really see this working would be the Ramiro and with the suppressor you could increase spread to make it less reliable at range for balancing, idk just rly only had any real success with shot guns in the game and it still ends up getting me killed alot of the time I'd be completely content with having to get a few feet closer to get a kill shot. But I'm also super curious as to why you'd think it'd be unbalanced.
Do i hear a german accent there?
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