Do NOT, keep the zip ties on the inner tubes for extended periods of time. They will scratch the tubes and will cause leaks. They do sell kits specific to this zip tie trick, but if you dont want to undo the suspension, do the zip tie trick, keep those forks clean, and remove them after getting you suspension set up.
I have worked on suspension forks for Husqvarna, KTM and Ducati. All of them get thermal spray coated with tungsten carbide. A zip tie will not scratch the surface as tungsten carbide is extremely hard. Even sand could damage them if they weren't treated. But always check if your forks are treated and hard enough to not get scratched by plastic
Hi, Be carefull to not misinterprete this method. You have to take into account the specs of the bike. There are bikes out there , where the suspension bottoms out way before the end of the chromed forktube. f.e. My Triumph Tiger sport has a total front wheel travel of 140mm according to specs. From top , If I raise the front of the bike above the ground , I measure 170mm of chromed tube. SO.... My front suspension bottoms out 30mm above the bottom of the chromed forktube. In my case, the cable tie should not come lower then around 45mm above the bottom of the chromed forktube. Long story short : bottoming out is not always hitting the end of the chromed tube. Often it is higher up and you need to know/measure that point, using the specs of your suspension
'dark magic' 😂 it may seem so in the beginning. Good to see Dave Moss in the video, I learned how to read my tire wear and adjust my suspension for track use watching his videos and tuning guides. Omce you know how a suspension works, whether it's the fron or the rear, you can adjust them relatively easily. Servicing them is another story but nasic understanding of how they work and how to maintain them helps a lot!
HI! Not sure if I can get answer. MY suspension is too hard feel for me, I have a heavy Zero electric motorcycle with Showa front and rear suspension. Without the ziptie just watching how clean the surface I see only 5 cm 1-2 inch travel at front suspension, I want to make it softer, but there is an other issue I have to solve too. My model is the S and the same frame used for DS model, the DS (dualsport) has a longer front fork and bigger font tire so frame geometry ismuch beter if front fork is longer. On my S model I always slipping to the front and all my weight is on my nuts.... I want to have the front fork as long as possible. So I am afraid if I make the front suspension softer I would have shorter fork due to lower position at smae weight. Is there a solution using copression setting on bottom and S/H on top to have it higher position but softer damping?
Can you elaborate on using a permanent marker? Do you just draw a straight line down the fork and identify what gets rubbed off and what remains? How does that work?
Do NOT, keep the zip ties on the inner tubes for extended periods of time. They will scratch the tubes and will cause leaks. They do sell kits specific to this zip tie trick, but if you dont want to undo the suspension, do the zip tie trick, keep those forks clean, and remove them after getting you suspension set up.
Yeap i you are totally right , i forget to include this in video.
I am gona pin this comment for everybody to see.
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@@Motogents not really because it rarely moves
I have worked on suspension forks for Husqvarna, KTM and Ducati. All of them get thermal spray coated with tungsten carbide. A zip tie will not scratch the surface as tungsten carbide is extremely hard. Even sand could damage them if they weren't treated. But always check if your forks are treated and hard enough to not get scratched by plastic
@@Motogents yea not how it works... plastic cant damage metal...
Thanks dude, its 4.46AM, I was trying to find this video from last night 9pm, ll keep you posted on the progress
Hi, Be carefull to not misinterprete this method. You have to take into account the specs of the bike. There are bikes out there , where the suspension bottoms out way before the end of the chromed forktube. f.e. My Triumph Tiger sport has a total front wheel travel of 140mm according to specs. From top , If I raise the front of the bike above the ground , I measure 170mm of chromed tube. SO.... My front suspension bottoms out 30mm above the bottom of the chromed forktube. In my case, the cable tie should not come lower then around 45mm above the bottom of the chromed forktube. Long story short : bottoming out is not always hitting the end of the chromed tube. Often it is higher up and you need to know/measure that point, using the specs of your suspension
Thank u...for explaining so simply
You are welcome mate 👊✌️
'dark magic' 😂 it may seem so in the beginning. Good to see Dave Moss in the video, I learned how to read my tire wear and adjust my suspension for track use watching his videos and tuning guides. Omce you know how a suspension works, whether it's the fron or the rear, you can adjust them relatively easily. Servicing them is another story but nasic understanding of how they work and how to maintain them helps a lot!
Thank u for simplifying this ..I will try it...u explained it in a way laymen can understand..
Try it is very simple od i monkey like me can do it you can do it too 😭
What bike do you ride ?
Good ups on you givin Dave moss props he’s a legend
I said it once and i will say it again,that guy can talk with motorcycles ,that man is a bike guru 🤣
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HI! Not sure if I can get answer. MY suspension is too hard feel for me, I have a heavy Zero electric motorcycle with Showa front and rear suspension. Without the ziptie just watching how clean the surface I see only 5 cm 1-2 inch travel at front suspension, I want to make it softer, but there is an other issue I have to solve too.
My model is the S and the same frame used for DS model, the DS (dualsport) has a longer front fork and bigger font tire so frame geometry ismuch beter if front fork is longer.
On my S model I always slipping to the front and all my weight is on my nuts....
I want to have the front fork as long as possible.
So I am afraid if I make the front suspension softer I would have shorter fork due to lower position at smae weight.
Is there a solution using copression setting on bottom and S/H on top to have it higher position but softer damping?
Icm from the bottom on “upside down” forks. Traditional forks it’s 1cm from the top.
Yes that make sense 👊🏼
I've got a honda cbr600 f2 02 and my front fork legs won't fit tightly to my yoke????? There's a difference of 1mm, can you help me please
Where should the zip tie be at the beginning please?
When you put ziptie on leg fork pull it all the way up almost to the fork seal.
@@Motogents Thanks!
You are welcome mate 👊🏼✊🏼💨
will it work for every motorbikes??
Yeap it will work on every bike 👊🏼✊🏼💨
To confirm, 1 CM (10mm) correct?
Yeap thats right 👊
Thx bruh for an simple hack, It's really helpful 😊🔥
I am so glad to hear that 👊🏼
Plz make video of oil change and air filter change
It is on the list 3000km more and i will do maintenance
video,oil filter,oil , andair filter. ✊👊
@@Motogents ❤️
Is it too hard if suspension is not bottoming out
IT all depends on where your zip tie is ending.
If you don’t want to add zipptie you can also use a permanent marker!
Thank me later!
And how exactly will that move Einstein?
@@g3ges3 ZIP tie The marker on The fork😂
@nilulcrocodilul hahahhagagagagagagagaggagagagagafa
Big fan bro
Perfect
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This is not true and travel range is not related with preload, just ignore this video
Hii bro please make more videos plz
Tnx man that means a lot,more great content is coming.
Using a permanent marker would also do the job
Yeap that could work too 💪
Can you elaborate on using a permanent marker? Do you just draw a straight line down the fork and identify what gets rubbed off and what remains? How does that work?