Now that I've had time to process... OMG THIS WAS SO WORTH THE WAIT, THE FIGHT AND THAT ENDING WERE CRAZY YO, NEXT WEEK IS GONNA BE LIT AF I'M SO FREAKING HYPED!!!
Twice DivineZ doing a twist, twice it involves Future Hikari, twice it blows everyone's minds. And because of that I am retiring as theory crafter lol cuz aside from the guy y'all's shout-out, ain't NO ONE expected this. From now on I'm just gonna sit back and ride along this doozy of a ride.
I feel so stupid. Honestly, we should've seen this coming. It was only called a one way trip to the past because it was uncertain whether or not things would work out fine. Her disappearing at the end of S1 was a great misdirection. Space-Time being fucked was something we should've expected.
@@godsman00 also bro the divine skill actually fit on theme of "sin" because the cost is simple and can be activated whenever your in grade 3 already or want to stall until 2nd persona. Kinda like you never know when Liael wants to do that (possibly if your hand is low after guarding before) and snap the divine skill same like past sin suddenly catching up
When I first saw this episode my jaw could not come off the floor. There's so much to go over, mainly the fact that Future Hikari still exists!??? Also that divince skill, in terms of the first appearence of all the divine skills, I think it might be the best. The skill is broken, the OST is absolute fire with Airots providing Vanguard another amazing OST, and the animation! I swear Liael doesn't know how to look bad even when she's beating up her lucky or unlucky husband. Quick question, if you were in Rezael's shoes, and your wife died, but now 2 time traveling versions of her have come to beat you up, what would you do? Cause they're about to have a beautiful battle in the sky to decide your fate without your say in it. Finally Kuon. I can't figure this guy out! Is he a time traveller too? How does his wish tie into all this, cause that's probably the only honest thing bout him.
Like how you pointed out Akina turned into a robot when he lost, honestly I think he is most defiantly the one possessed by Sybilit also dont forget that when talking about set 5 of Divinez Bushi mentioned Destined Ones in pural meaning we have at the very least 1 more destined one to see. Destined One of Miracles Rezael Sybilit anyone? Also those Ruins that keep being brought up have to connect to G somehow seeing as how 10 years ago IRL G came out and in the shows time line Cray was strongly connected to Earth 10 years ago, Im really interested to see how this will go and super hype!
@@sharkmessiah1018 agreed, that tidbit about the Destined ones still leaves the Akina Rezael destined one theory in the race, man if so it's gonna be a field day for a brother I'm hyped!
@@godsman00 So far the only ones we have confirmation of being in the Ruins are the siblings, I bet after this fight we might see Sybilit taking control of Akina’s body or Infinity Boy coming over and chatting with Akina during the fight. Ether way I’m hype! Also crazy theory but what if Sybilit ends up being an Overtrigger! Would be interesting to see though I think Gab and Sybilit should be Cray Elemental unit cards that are generic support for the Fated and Destined ones respectively.
Akina and Future Hikari's fight could've been an unofficial part of Akina's Fated clash because right before they fought, their divine emblems reacted with each other.
This was definitely worth the wait, Bushi brought best girl back, and it feels like she is the perfect person to release current hikari from the mental pollution.
Akina was the perfect person to understand how future Hikari was feeling and accept it back in season 1 and now future Hikari is a better person to understand and accept how current Hikari is feeling! Even better than Akina! Cause ofc when Akina try to acknowledge it’s like ofc you say that but hearing what future Hikari may help her fine closure and inadvertently help Akina too!
Future Hikari is basically Silver the Hedgehog. She returned to her future and found out something new went wrong, so she went back again to fix things. And she'll keep doing it.
No... She couldn't return to her original timeline... She was traped on this timeline because her wish is like 1 way ticket..... If you watch the last episode divinez you will see that.
First off, OMG that fight was Insanity!! Liael Odium is Gear Chronicle afterall! Thats like Mystery Flare Dragon all over again! It’s borderline broken. Divine Skill brings back 1 turn, no main phase, drive minus one, but that is nothing since her Order can bring back rear guard and Liael skill gets her triple drive regardless 😅🤣😅. Meaning almost no demerit. Thats Insane! Second wow that kinda hit the feeling. I do understand the guilt Hikari have for basically “Rob” his brother wish for himself, but I do think it is miss direct because of Sybilt influence. But I can’t blame her here since she is still a child, thats a lot of processing to do. Man I feel bad for both of them. ALSO YEAH FUTURE HIKARI IS BACK 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Lord this was 10/10 episode fr fr, the interactions, the themes and action were great and the ending was next level. Next episode can't come soon enough this is gonna be wild!
@@godsman00 100%. It’s poetic also, Past VS Future. Oh man I’m not ready for next week, this will be same level of pain to the feeling as Akina Vs Future Hikari. Imagine Hikari hearing what happened to her Future self.
@@decadenime1050I think the next episode future Hikari will help both current Hikari and Akina! I think they both need to fine closure over what hapoen
Kind of funny how they worked it out so each of the 6 nation got a win in the Destined Showdown. 5:50 Hmm... wonder if those two talked about anything. 27:00 And there's the wrench that brings Liael/Future Hikari back. Wonder if its a case wish to save her big brother being vague enough to activate whenever the need arises. Or she just appeared in a field halfway across Japan two weeks ago and has been hitchhiking it ever since. One Liael from the Past and the other from the Future, both carrying love and regrets for Rezael, all while Blandmire is left befuddled over how custody will work now that there are two of them present. As for (Current) Hikari's deck in the episode, the only thing that looked to counter blast in it was the Ablaze Chimera, so probably a few Energy Blast we didn't see. Looked like her Energy was empty at 23:17, so I'm expecting Odium to have a sink in it. Also "Destined Time Piece" has no grade curiously, while SYSTEM CODE:X-ceed does, though that might just be an error. Yeah didn't really feel right for Akina and Kuon to fight at this point, when his motivation this season has been to "save" Hikari and find his wish, there has been nothing to really push a confrontation between these two. I could see an outcome where (future) Hikari wins, and Suo wishes to remember that which he cannot, which in turn lead to revelations about Kuon, which in turn motivate Akina to fight him. Maybe even to sweeten the pot for Kuon/Sybilt, he holds his wish as ante for it.
@@godsman00 Random thought. We now have two Hikari's who's Divine Skill pose is mirrored, so if we get a third Liael as some point, both could appear holding hands, joining past and future together in the present.
I think Sybilt has 2 abilities one were he's able to amplify someones desires like we have seen and another to give people a desire. I thought of this when you said akina is a broken we all know Sybilt is a manipulator but 2 many can go wrong (Like the og timeline where everyone dies). Another reason i think this because Hikari said from that day onward it felt like thier destinies were set in stone. For future Hikari i think the the reason she is able to intervene lies within Lieal skill she binds a unit to call the same card so possibly this Hikari is a different timeline from last seasons future Hikari
@@AquaStyles that's potentially it, Time has so many potential explanations ngl it's hard to say which we'll get. 2 abilities bit is scary though, cuz he can straight up input desire into people which is basically mind control
I believe the reason why future Hikari returns is because Rezael got his divine symbol back. If I'm not mistaken Liael=amorta was Liael revived by Rezael's design force, so it stands to reason that once it was used in season 1, there was no Liael anymore however when sybilt gave that power to Rezael again, Liael's existence became a possibility. So I think Liael=amorta and future Hikari come into reality if Akina dies, because this future Hikari could be different from the one we know in S1. On another note, since Liael and Rezael have the same design force, this could be S1 future hikari as her existence was restored by Rezael having his power back and asl long as its there she exists.
I can't route for present Hikari cause if she changes the past then Akira doesn't have a reason to fight in the fated clash that mean Akira never changed Sou meaning he wins and kills all fated ones meaning losing his senpai his friend and a kid is tried to help but couldn't imagine the mental damage that does to him
Point 1: if hikari is going to change the past by beating her future self then akina will not going to obtained rezael and the result akina is not going to get teaching and interested in vanguard by nao senpai. Point 2: Suo will not going to recover his past without akina's help which will going to kill the wielders of fated one including masanori, her idol mi- tan and nao senpai also not included taizo since in the first season of Divinez he wasn't interested in participating the fated clash. Point 3: I feel bad for senka that she was supposed to have a chance to challenge nao then I also feel bad to for yuna since she only has a chance to meet mi-tan in the concert as well since she is also a fan for mi-tan. Point 4: the time cannot balance properly without the original history which also result for hikari's team will not like her anymore. Point 5: the mental damage will get even worst for hikari now since she is already causing her trouble which will be her own wish now and the time will punish her and turning hikari to rust which also result that will be her own fault by changing the past. So the only way to fix the time again is both future hikari and akina will going back to the early present time and stop her in the destined showdown before happening since her wish is already a curse now by sybilt akina is going to challenge and confront hikari by using rezael deck and future hikari will make a sacrifice by giving liael amorta from akina again and he will add both rezael and amorta support that can help boost his potential on his deck from DZ booster set 5 then akina is going to wear the mask that future hikari wears since the first season of Divinez anime which can be a low profile so that the others will not get seen by other participants and in his deck will be upgraded as well and akina is going to make his own wish that present hikari deserves and this time he will save her correctly by guarding liael amorta from additional turn from odium's divine skill and final attack since liael amorta helps trigger her memory so that she can see if she change the past by winning in the destined showdown so this will happen for her that time will going to messed her back because of what she has done which she will get scared of changing her past then the time punished her and not just her also the future will not get balance properly which scares present hikari that the time will not balance properly because of her interference by stopping her past self from the same accident and not just her also her past self and young akina gets punished by time as well until future hikari is going to confront her by talking to her that changing the past is wrong so that she can understand from her future self then the present hikari will let go of the past wish that the event that is already happened from the start will also going to let go as well as and she will create her new wish that can move forward which also making her mental pollution lifted slowly by creating her new wish that the time move forward instead of changing the past that akina will going save her then her mental pollution lift in the last episode of 2nd season Divinez anime. Let go of the past, then time moves forward.
In a sense both lil Sis design force wish is to change back time. The alter one (older) want to change the past where her brother disappeared into void The current one ( younger) want to change the event that happened 10 years ago. If she gets her wish granted then there a timeline with 3 hikari myoudo.
Future Hikari's return is the greatest plot twist in DivineZ. Liael Odium skill is insane, but the question is her DS super broken? I seriously can't wait fo next week's episode and your guys' rambling was hilarious lol.
@@Ant-Man-dx4qf 😂 we were so immersed man what a wild ride, I love that twist! It's hard to say if it's broken because we don't know the costs and conditions, plus if she doesn't have persona ride that helps
I cannot believe they actually put turn repeat in standard, the format has reached the point of putting Chronovisor Heritage in the game. At least it doesn't seem as pressuring, which might be the deck's weakness but we'll have to see the support cuz we didn't get much of that. Future Hikari was very unexpected,something must be keeping her to continue existing and it might be the Destined Showdown. I saw a comment saying that she could still be existing because her wish to go back in time was to save Akina, but in the new timeline of the Destined Showdown, Akina still dies, so her wish isn't fulfilled yet. That could be why she still exists. Future Hikari vs Hikari though, Godsman you know what you have to do for Odium fight night now DivineZ has really become unpredictable with its plot now, heck after next episode there's still 4 or 5 more. What else are we getting after the Destined Showdown?! And it's not just the mystery of the ruins, we're still missing Kuon's backstory or why he wants to go to Cray, there's definitely some forgotten history with him and Suou that we don't know yet. And his eyes when he was staring at him, he's actually starting to give villain vibes with how much he's been enabling everyone else.
It skipped the ride and main phase and you will also lose out on your Persona Ride so I think they balanced it well. If they are really no 4th attack enabler support than I say the deck won't be that over power. It'll probably be like Blangdmire where the deck just lose gas if you survived it Divine turn.
@@tweetug3697I also imagine a counter blast cost! It basically a more aggressive version of liael amorta divine skill reimagined. Liael odium more offensive Liael amorta defensive
Back from my break and watched every episode up to this point, and it did not disappoint. And there are a lot of things we got: 1. Now we know a bit of what happened to Hikari from the accident, but it still doesn’t quite excuse her actions so far as being bratty. And Akina’s loss was kinda predictable considering how there’s still a lot more episodes in the season, but this fight is identical to Amorta’s last season. (Fact: This episode proves that the current Akina can’t win against Dark States without help. Still upset at how they use States as an antagonistic deck to Akina.) 2. Odium is perfect in the Gear Chronicle aesthetic, and her Divine Skill is what we all wanted for Amorta, so glad they gave us what we wanted. Still a bit iffy about her own Gauge mechanic cause that just makes Impauldio less special now. (I thought to myself that I wouldn’t be surprised if she used Gungram or Ashur- Da this fight). 3. As for the return of the future, I think it was done to compensate for Amorta having minimal support and they wanted to show it in a way that wasn’t making Odium a dual-nation type card. I also think it was a good way to hype up the eventual Akina vs. Kuon fight and make that matchup less predictable. I was seriously hoping for Hikari’s Sreneugid song to play with Odium, but I love this new soundtrack just as much, so maybe future Hikari’s return will give me my wish to hear that song one more time. Overall, great episode, but still diverges in an odd direction as it’s giving more questions than answers. But it’s gonna be “time” for Liael to shine (Pun intended). On a side note: We actually haven’t heard Kyohma talk for a month until this episode. Usually he’s sitting on the sidelines silently watching the matches.
@@godsman00 you know, with everything going on so far, I wouldn’t be surprised if Jinki or even Kyohma got another fight this season, cause the main problem with having a larger cast is trying to give them all an equal amount of love. Like in Season One, every character had at least 2 fights with their Divine cards(Even Liael was used in a fight twice).
I think they kinda clear it this time. They went to picnic, finding a ruins and enter it, Hikari get sick and hospitalized after that. My theory, its Hikari that ask to enter the ruins and Akina follow her. But after that, something happens that makes Hikari & Akina wounded. That time, Akina get his toxic hero of justice shenigans because he can't protect Hikari and Hikari get Survivor Guilt because she takes Akina "life". Maybe we'll get more about this incident & ruins when Sybilt reveal his plan.
Future Hikari was something I was expecting to happen and I'm glad it did! Now how is she here? My current main theories are: - The emergence of Destined Ones basically brought her back in some way (Could because of wish to reverse time or the concentration of Design Force create a miracle to bring to her back.) - Idea 2, Liael. Yep, if Hikari faded away into the time stream it is possible for gear chronicle/Liael to potentially rescue her. Considering that Cray and Earth are very close at the moment, this might be possible, and kind of funny, as it would mean there is also a small chance that Hikari has experienced Kuon's wish (That last part isn't necessary to this idea) - She is basically a walking ghost. Her existence has mostly faded away but in some way (again maybe due to the Design Force or another factor), has reappeared for a moment my contracting her remaining energy. This sounds similar to idea 1, but I guess has darker connotations, as she would basically be slowly dying again, but instead of sickness, it's a slow painful disappearance into a void. I have some smaller ideas, but these are what I think are most likely. I guess theory four is someone else saved her, but I do like that one less because it is reliant on someone we don't know doing something.
Because of the exact wording of her wish, Wishing to change the Fate of Death of her brother, perhaps Akina ends up dying again, which at that point buddy is Subaru, but because of that, F.Hikari remanifested the moment he lost
See I knew Keter Liael would come back in some way shape or form, BUT... I didn't think Future Hikari would be apart of it! BUT... Gab did say she would either get erased, just go back to her time or just stay there unable to go back so I knew it was one of those three options but damn. I'm glad we are getting more info towards the big reveal of this accident and how it links everyone to each other. But man this season and the rest of the episodes are gonna be PEAK! And I can't wait. Also this may or may not be important but remember, Taizo STILL KEPT future Hikari's mask that DIDN'T fade away.
i think that for ordium the divine skill is very cool and i love it as a gear main during g era , i think it would be cool if it forces the opponent to leap back to the past by riding from soul 1 grade less than your current vanguard so if i am at g3 rn then the divine skill would ride a grade 2 vanguard this attack and it would be an interesting idea that i have since most if not all of ordium support cards does not state that ur opponents vanguard is g3 or greater , mostly just if u have regress gauges. what are your thoughts?
@@lostlegend5798 it's a neat trick though tbh it'd probably just fall short of what we have here already since the support really lines up with her gameplan
Just rewatched episode 11 of season 1 DivineZ and I finally realized that the two Hikari (Hikaris?) have opposite Divine Skill end-poses. Fated One Hikari spread her right hand while Destined One Hikari spread her left. Not sure if this detail has any other deeper meaning.
Hikari right now is part of Liael, the guardian of time. There is Theory long time ago Vanguard in cray is player incarnation on Earth. So I think Liael is exist outside time, and thank to the future change Future Hikari and Liael share same domain. Mean Future Hikari is may a time guardian and belong to Cray now, when time were alter she were drawn back to earth.
Just mi humbly cooking here: If all this results in Sybilt having planned EVERYTHING since Future Hikari's timeline ----> the Akina she saw back in the hospital was the Destined One version. It would STILL be bad writing for a very convoluted surprise (Sybilt should have "saved" Akina from Suo's void wish and then polluting his mind). So maybe even 2 physical Akina...and if that's the case then maybe future Hikari will actually go back to to her time/home since she will have a place/person to return to/with.
spent time think have come to the conclusion that both myodos really need a therapist! like it clear they both have been coping with this in there own way and both aren't over what happen! like to hear how hikari is grateful to akina but so grateful to point she hate herself and refer to the "accident" as her sin is a definite extreme. maybe taizo was on to something maybe her cheer self was a act to convince other as well herself that there wasn't any reason to worry about her. that she was smiling even though she was in pain. and from akina pov I think he was genuinely happy to be with her, and wanted to help her anyways he could, since for a me a sign that just how he was is him staying at suo place ep 7 but when hikari called him out on it man look liked he was going to break down 15:50 something I feel like from this point was akina wavering /hesitating when hikari confront her about things. Unlike in the fated clash there no passion no heart behind it. Every fight he’s been it was clear he was having fun but not this one! Feels like his mind was else where like during this moment ownwards he wondering if he did the right thing. 21:43 I don’t know if he doesn’t care but I think it like “if this how she feels have I’ve been wrong all this time” I think he’s been genuinely happy doing what been doing all this time but hearing how she feel is making him feel unsure about things 25:46 akina face kinda say a lot! seem the myodos are bad at talking with each other and just need to be more honest about things😅 Also love that suo tried to cheer up Akina in the same way he did for him when he lost!
This episode is amazing, and I really enjoyed how they fleshed out Hikari’s motivation. That twist is insane! I’m already convinced that Divinez season 2 is the best season of all Vanguard, hands down. Also glad Keter Liael is gonna get some more love!
Odium can't do persona ride because one card were taken away from actual Liael to make Seventh Fated one counterpart. Since there is no seventh fated one, so Seventh Destined one created by clone to Seventh fated one. Once Destined Showdown over the card will probably return to Future Hikari deck depend who win.
Maybe its just a paradox… Odium Wins (Akina die) future version of herself take place in a fated clash with Amorta to save him or her future wish was to go back in time save him so technically her future wish is still active and She came back to save him from the odium timeline
For the first time, I have no words for this episodes, the only thing can say is that I told you so that akina will lose but even that is a collective acknowledgement, so… idk, guess I can say that with both fated and destined version of liel fighting each other, I may finally get my destined fated one with liel
Future Hikari has the Daigo effect. Back when Royal Paladin ceased to exist, Daigo held onto them and never existed in one place for long. 😂 Kuon extremely sus
Kuon was hedge betting by doing nothing. If destined one win he get to go to Cray. If fated one wins, Sybilt likely to come to Earth thus opening a path to Cray because of traitor. if he fight he could potentially lose
@@godsman00also "Odium" name finally make sense Hikari hate...."herself" for being the bind that lock her brother freedom, anthesis to "Amorta" which Future Hikari back for the sake of her "Beloved" brother
Imagine if Akina were defeated before he even could ride Rezael or use divine skill, what the animation look like. For example Hikari first drive check are critical trigger and second is criticall trigger and then the third one is over trigger. 4 critical and 1M + 4 critical and +10K rearguard. And then she use Divine skill, get another turn and get +1 critical trigger, front trigger.
Future hikari opens the door to so many theories. Maybe her mask played a part, maybe odium creation led to amorta revival, maybe akina losing retriggered future hikari wish to protect and help her brother which revived her to help akina. Or it could also be the theories you guy had. Maybe we can have a stream or video later discussing everything that led up to this point and maybe some predictions how this fight might play out
I got a cracked theory and i think Taizo's actually the one who's posessed by Sybilt and the Mask is actually the trap as we have no mention of it thus far and at the end of season 1 Taizo was the one in posession of the mask
My personal theory is that since future Hikari’s wish was to protect Akina by traveling back in time by 3 years, so what if she was never erased and Lieal Amorta just transported her to another point in time during that three year period that Akina was in danger Also going to Cray was definitely Suo and Kuon’s wish which is the reason why he wants it so bad
It caught me off guard to because the end of the season 1 the Hikari in the future supposed to dissapeared since the future is been altered when suou is been stopped Maybe this is for the best so Hikari will learn that she must not be trapped in the past and continue looking forward to the future
@@godsman00 From the start i thought hikari is the one possesed by sybilt but since the episode where its revealed that the possesed one is a participant of fated clash maybe its the future hikari or Akino who knows I kinda saw the connection with the side info given in each episode and the back story . It happens 10 years ago exactly when the siblings get into the accident in the " ruins " inside a cave . Its kinda cool to see an altered Razael
5-6 attacks with 5 drives😂😂 ok blangdmire, eva, rezael, shiranui, zorga, levidras, drajewel.. its probably the new tier S deck and with such a power boost its insane, of course not like impauldio or zorga 60+k but with persona its solid 40-50 k attacks
Imagine Odium power was flashfoward, force Akina draw all card to hand left only one card on the deck. Or her power reset her table, damage become 0, drop zone and hand become 0; everything on her field and hand reset except her vanguard. If she already use overtrigger she can put it back to the deck and use it second time. Or force Akina end his turn and get a six damage.
I am soo Glad it's not Suo vs Akina. Again in what world does it makes sense for Akina who we all knew was Losing because Episode 2, IT IS MENTIONED that in the case of a 3-3 tie, we get a 7th fight, you don't mention that in a tournament setting in Anime unless it happens that way, but in what world does it make sense for Akina who just lost, to fight Kuon who beat Suo, the guy Akina only beat because of a Deus Ex Machina in a Psudeo Sentinal skill that in his deck requires the use of the opponents Skill. And with 2 weeks ago Nao winning to allow Fate to be up 3-2 at the time, Akina was Losing. Will+Dress worked because A: Yuyu had an internal character flaw in that he was acting like the very thing he was rejecting, and B: He was the only one in Will+Dress who had a relationship with Gui. Will admit, didn't think of it being Future vs Present Hikari though. That caught me and the Live Chat off Guard and what's even crazier, someone on Twitter/X called out week's ago, that Future Hikari would in a ghostly visage manifest through the mask and help fight Also how is that fair. A Divine Skill that has a negative cost(s) and the Act Skill gives you Triple. Like could you have made it Drive +1 at least. Like at least with Varga and Impauldio there is actual costs for it, here it's literally free
The cost might be balanced from the potential time it takes to activate. It requires 5 gauge to activate and outside of the one you get from the ride line, only Odium and her order may increase it further. So currently it is locked to second grade 3 turn, if not even later if you don't see your second copy of the order. Also without the Dragon seen at 21:20 that additional turn will only have two attacks. If we're looking at how it might be structured from what we saw in the episode... [CONT](VC): During your turn, all of your front row units get [Power]+5000 for each Distored Bane in your Regress gauge [AUTO](VC): When this unit attacks, COST [Energy Blast (?) & Put a rear-guard into your Regress gauge], and this unit gets Triple Drive until end of turn. Divine Skill-[AUTO](VC): At the end of the battle this unit attacked, if you have 5 or more regress gauge, COST [Energy Blast (?) Discard two cards from your hand], and at the end of your turn, take an additional turn after this turn, and skip your next ride phase and main phase. The Energy Blast is speculative from the shot of her generator here 19:59 and here 23:18. it appeared she did not have any Energy left when she was going into her extra turn, though if what she said in the episode is 1:1 its less likely the on attack has that a part of its cost. (Could also grant the extra turn ability instead, will have to wait and see though. Regardless interested to see how they're going to word this)
@calebjacobson3139 Okay, and how many Divine Skills have that same "balance" of being used on Persona because if going 1st? It's the fact that the discard 2 is negligent because right from the getgo you have Triple Drive. So that 2nd turn you discard the 2 extra cards you drew from drives 3 and 6. At least Elementaria Sanct is free now
Ohh no I just realized something so sad 😢 if current hikari gets her wish. That I’m not sure even she herself even realizes The nice ending would be for her to disappear like future hikari “concept of time is iffy since future hikari back” The sad ending is that if she makes back to the present the brother she once knew and was grateful for won’t be there anymore. She’ll have to live with a brother she doesn’t know.😢
I just realize about something that I kinda hope for but previously let go early in the season.but now really hoping for. Is that hope akina and the rest of team fate makes like a super wish and wish for future hikari to stay and live in the present! To me that would truly be a wish for himself.
This episode was insane!!! Future hikari return was the most giga chad thing I've ever seen! first they create a tragic backstory first and got us attach they make her dissappear leads up to what we believe would be akina kuon final than they said no and bring her back! the prayers have been answer I love Divinez!! Has been better than anything I’ve seen ever pre D era! there was something interesting about the liael odium in comparison to liael amorta liael odium is way more offensive where liael amorta is defensive yet there's skill seem to work under a similar fashion beside the music I felt like liael odium was fighting with a lot more desperation, reckless and malicious almost like she didn't care about her self at all that she was just want to push past something in comparison to amorta who seem to be a lot more calculated and even rational which could also be what we see in there fighter they control current hikari is way more emotional, hateful. the halo she had one her back while maybe be a source of power it could how she views what happen basically carrying the weight of what happen in the past but also rejecting it to. I guess it make sense to since she still young and feels like everything happen so far is her sin, I imagine as a child for trauma such is this if not dealt with could basically feel like the end of world. while future hikari was more calm, rational, she was emotional but I felt like she was a different type compare to current hikari! maybe the dark clothes she wear was her accepting what happen but because there was a green stripe it was her determination to change all that! this next fight is gonna be so good! did not expect me to be more hype for next week fight than this won but here we are! Next episode maybe future hikari could get current to accept what happened and fine closure on and hopefully maybe that’ll also help Akina I think the biggest factor that may influence the fight and the difference between them at least to me was current hikari felt like her goal was "I have to make up to him" vs future hikari previous goal "I have to save him!
@@seantey1797 Maybe after 'Hikari" wins, the Design Force gathers, Sybilt removes all the polluted things from everyone...and goes FULLY POSSESSING *AKINA* after. Then Kuon fight him and lose. Then SUO will win! 😆
th-cam.com/users/clipUgkxZCuLJSysIIw40p2PP0vWUtKpQgYFuQmT?si=vTLEVJS1rDnv8FML Also if remember correctly, Akina wishes towards Rezael for Hikari to get healthy, he didn't specify which Hikari(can be both). Kinda like Suo wish for nothing and Blangdmire gave him nothing. Still Akina is kinda MC dumb, younger Hikari ask what he wish for himself, he repeat the same wish is what frustrated her. Yet during the ep, where Nao vs B hero user Mondo, Akina technically stated his wish of enjoying peaceful moments with his friends.
I think Hikari meant a more selfish wish, cause wanting peace with your friends while a great wish is still rooted in selflessness. Maybe Hikari meant a wish that was more self serving, like deciding your career, or getting the courage to finally ask Nao out.
soo glad future hikari is back. this means there will be keter liael support in set 05 and she baaaddlllyy needs it, she has so much problems that needs to be addressed and hopefully set 05 can solve some of it if not all
I don't know what the significance would be, but earlier today I realized that if Future!Hikari beats Hikari and frees her from the mental pollution, then Kuon will be the only one left mentally polluted. Even if he's not the one possessed, maybe Sybilt will take him over and make him the final boss? I don't know, I just feel like it could be relevant somehow.
Senka is farming so much CHARISMA points that I'm eager to forgive her lack of exploration. If they continue giving her that treatment then she will be out of the "just introductory episode and no more writing" character's bench which is currently occupied by Mikoto, Yuna and the Destined of Scales.
That ending dam this may feel like a dumb question but the fact the future Hikari and Hikari are in the same timeline now isnt it a paradox? idk time travel stuff is confusing 😅
Honestly my theory about future hikari setting the trap was a bit far fetched but I feel like it could be correct because her being there couldn’t be a coincidence
Jesus! Divinez needs to chill with their story telling. Honestly, Divinez makes me care more for the story progression and plot than the TCG. The fights, animation, card effect reveals just intensifies it. As for the ending, I was shocked but, honestly, future Hikari is the PERFECT deciding player for this clash. 2 Hikari facing one another is pretty poetic; one fought to change the future while one is fighting to change the past. I guess this parallel will be the "Point of Intersection" (yup, next episode's title) and have something to do with the Design Force. However, they better explain next episode how and why is she back. Overall, this episode was insane!
IT REALLY IS UGHHH. When nothing happened after she paid the cost, I was like "Wait did Godsman hit the nail with the defensive Divine Skill he thought of in that one video?" BUT NO IT WAS A TURN SKIP. It was so obvious but seeing it laid down infront of me was AAAAAA CANT WAIT FOR PEAK NEXT WEEK. WE NEED EXPLANATIONS AND MORE LORE. NEW CARDS TOO??? As it said unitS with Divine Skill at set 5, so 🤭🤭🤭
Also loved how you took the time to point out the track for Hikari it's really beautiful! Both Future and Present Hikari have bomb music, possibly Bushi's fave child?
@@goingoverload6096 God I felt the same way for a whole ass second but naw we got something even crazier! Man the explanations, the fight action, the dialouge and character interactions, the Amorta support, dude next week promises so much I'm getting sensory overload!!!
We all know Akiana's gonns loses. We all know divine skill must be some sort of gear chonicle. But nobody knows who's gonna fight tie break match. *Edit NAO STILL BEST GIRL
@@lukesun4975 he likes the character, but he feels that her character arc should've ended at S1 and using her in S2 would be low hanging fruit. I personally think it's still a cool plot development if they make it feel impactful and real, and heck Maz might warm up to it if the plot treats it well
You see people? It is 100% possible to make Gear Chronicle without needing to shoehorn stride into a format where it doesn't belong and screw everyting forever. "Stride deckests were necessary!" myth debunked for the rest of eternity now pls stop making those things.
Why do people not want her when she's literally the best thing about the damn show?? Everytime She's involved you know the story is going to move in a good direction
Now that I've had time to process... OMG THIS WAS SO WORTH THE WAIT, THE FIGHT AND THAT ENDING WERE CRAZY YO, NEXT WEEK IS GONNA BE LIT AF I'M SO FREAKING HYPED!!!
Hehe *time* 😂
Interaction in this episode can be summed up as...."complicated"
@@geraldushimawan8269 lol truly but I loved it!
@@godsman00 the V.A for hikari already tweeted (name is Yukimura Eri) next week gonna be hectic because voicing both hikari🤣🤣
@@geraldushimawan8269 oh Lord that's gonna be hilarious to think about, might cut the tension just a tad. Godspeed to her 😂
Twice DivineZ doing a twist, twice it involves Future Hikari, twice it blows everyone's minds.
And because of that I am retiring as theory crafter lol cuz aside from the guy y'all's shout-out, ain't NO ONE expected this. From now on I'm just gonna sit back and ride along this doozy of a ride.
@@jremydadude6238 😂 yeah we gotta bring out the popcorn cuz this is going off the rails and I love it so much, S2 is hitting its grove.
Granted is on everbody back of mind but didn't expected bushi to play that card
I feel so stupid. Honestly, we should've seen this coming. It was only called a one way trip to the past because it was uncertain whether or not things would work out fine. Her disappearing at the end of S1 was a great misdirection. Space-Time being fucked was something we should've expected.
And we fell for it hook, line and sinker
instead of erasure it was actually the creation of another daigo situation. how could we be so blind
@@godsman00welp the V.A for Hikari will double work voicing both
Yeah his little sister joined after his brother lost on part 1 and she joined second part
We actually seen this lol, but never imagine bushi can do this, but they did this. 90% of prediction is true
That divine skill made me think of one pop-up screen on Master Duel:
Due to this card’s effect, your turn was skipped.
Pffft "You don't pass go, you don't collect 200"
@@godsman00 also bro the divine skill actually fit on theme of "sin" because the cost is simple and can be activated whenever your in grade 3 already or want to stall until 2nd persona. Kinda like you never know when Liael wants to do that (possibly if your hand is low after guarding before) and snap the divine skill same like past sin suddenly catching up
When I first saw this episode my jaw could not come off the floor. There's so much to go over, mainly the fact that Future Hikari still exists!??? Also that divince skill, in terms of the first appearence of all the divine skills, I think it might be the best. The skill is broken, the OST is absolute fire with Airots providing Vanguard another amazing OST, and the animation!
I swear Liael doesn't know how to look bad even when she's beating up her lucky or unlucky husband. Quick question, if you were in Rezael's shoes, and your wife died, but now 2 time traveling versions of her have come to beat you up, what would you do? Cause they're about to have a beautiful battle in the sky to decide your fate without your say in it.
Finally Kuon. I can't figure this guy out! Is he a time traveller too? How does his wish tie into all this, cause that's probably the only honest thing bout him.
@@DranzerG3 so hype bro, really looking forward to Sybilt's grand plan
Like how you pointed out Akina turned into a robot when he lost, honestly I think he is most defiantly the one possessed by Sybilit also dont forget that when talking about set 5 of Divinez Bushi mentioned Destined Ones in pural meaning we have at the very least 1 more destined one to see. Destined One of Miracles Rezael Sybilit anyone? Also those Ruins that keep being brought up have to connect to G somehow seeing as how 10 years ago IRL G came out and in the shows time line Cray was strongly connected to Earth 10 years ago, Im really interested to see how this will go and super hype!
@@sharkmessiah1018 agreed, that tidbit about the Destined ones still leaves the Akina Rezael destined one theory in the race, man if so it's gonna be a field day for a brother I'm hyped!
@@godsman00 So far the only ones we have confirmation of being in the Ruins are the siblings, I bet after this fight we might see Sybilit taking control of Akina’s body or Infinity Boy coming over and chatting with Akina during the fight. Ether way I’m hype! Also crazy theory but what if Sybilit ends up being an Overtrigger! Would be interesting to see though I think Gab and Sybilit should be Cray Elemental unit cards that are generic support for the Fated and Destined ones respectively.
@@sharkmessiah1018 I mean, judging by Nao's reaction to the ruins being mentioned, she likely was there too.
Akina and Future Hikari's fight could've been an unofficial part of Akina's Fated clash because right before they fought, their divine emblems reacted with each other.
This was definitely worth the wait, Bushi brought best girl back, and it feels like she is the perfect person to release current hikari from the mental pollution.
Akina was the perfect person to understand how future Hikari was feeling and accept it back in season 1 and now future Hikari is a better person to understand and accept how current Hikari is feeling! Even better than Akina! Cause ofc when Akina try to acknowledge it’s like ofc you say that but hearing what future Hikari may help her fine closure and inadvertently help Akina too!
Future Hikari is basically Silver the Hedgehog. She returned to her future and found out something new went wrong, so she went back again to fix things. And she'll keep doing it.
@@CalamitasDeus Time Police freeze!
@@godsman00 somebody called the TVA we got major time problem
No... She couldn't return to her original timeline... She was traped on this timeline because her wish is like 1 way ticket..... If you watch the last episode divinez you will see that.
First off, OMG that fight was Insanity!! Liael Odium is Gear Chronicle afterall! Thats like Mystery Flare Dragon all over again! It’s borderline broken. Divine Skill brings back 1 turn, no main phase, drive minus one, but that is nothing since her Order can bring back rear guard and Liael skill gets her triple drive regardless 😅🤣😅. Meaning almost no demerit. Thats Insane!
Second wow that kinda hit the feeling. I do understand the guilt Hikari have for basically “Rob” his brother wish for himself, but I do think it is miss direct because of Sybilt influence. But I can’t blame her here since she is still a child, thats a lot of processing to do. Man I feel bad for both of them.
ALSO YEAH FUTURE HIKARI IS BACK 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Lord this was 10/10 episode fr fr, the interactions, the themes and action were great and the ending was next level. Next episode can't come soon enough this is gonna be wild!
@@godsman00 100%. It’s poetic also, Past VS Future. Oh man I’m not ready for next week, this will be same level of pain to the feeling as Akina Vs Future Hikari. Imagine Hikari hearing what happened to her Future self.
@@decadenime1050I think the next episode future Hikari will help both current Hikari and Akina! I think they both need to fine closure over what hapoen
Love the plot twist at the end, also can't wait to see Amorta RRR support.
Man same, Amorta gonna be eating good fr fr
Kind of funny how they worked it out so each of the 6 nation got a win in the Destined Showdown.
5:50 Hmm... wonder if those two talked about anything.
27:00 And there's the wrench that brings Liael/Future Hikari back.
Wonder if its a case wish to save her big brother being vague enough to activate whenever the need arises. Or she just appeared in a field halfway across Japan two weeks ago and has been hitchhiking it ever since.
One Liael from the Past and the other from the Future, both carrying love and regrets for Rezael, all while Blandmire is left befuddled over how custody will work now that there are two of them present.
As for (Current) Hikari's deck in the episode, the only thing that looked to counter blast in it was the Ablaze Chimera, so probably a few Energy Blast we didn't see. Looked like her Energy was empty at 23:17, so I'm expecting Odium to have a sink in it. Also "Destined Time Piece" has no grade curiously, while SYSTEM CODE:X-ceed does, though that might just be an error.
Yeah didn't really feel right for Akina and Kuon to fight at this point, when his motivation this season has been to "save" Hikari and find his wish, there has been nothing to really push a confrontation between these two. I could see an outcome where (future) Hikari wins, and Suo wishes to remember that which he cannot, which in turn lead to revelations about Kuon, which in turn motivate Akina to fight him. Maybe even to sweeten the pot for Kuon/Sybilt, he holds his wish as ante for it.
Season Finale fight for them mayhaps? We'll have to see!
@@godsman00 Random thought. We now have two Hikari's who's Divine Skill pose is mirrored, so if we get a third Liael as some point, both could appear holding hands, joining past and future together in the present.
Well you wanted to resolve your problems yourself, Hikari.
You got what you asked for.
@@natchu96 lmao I think of a quote from Witcher 3: "You get what you wish for, not what you want" 🤔
I think Sybilt has 2 abilities one were he's able to amplify someones desires like we have seen and another to give people a desire. I thought of this when you said akina is a broken we all know Sybilt is a manipulator but 2 many can go wrong (Like the og timeline where everyone dies). Another reason i think this because Hikari said from that day onward it felt like thier destinies were set in stone.
For future Hikari i think the the reason she is able to intervene lies within Lieal skill she binds a unit to call the same card so possibly this Hikari is a different timeline from last seasons future Hikari
@@AquaStyles that's potentially it, Time has so many potential explanations ngl it's hard to say which we'll get. 2 abilities bit is scary though, cuz he can straight up input desire into people which is basically mind control
I believe the reason why future Hikari returns is because Rezael got his divine symbol back.
If I'm not mistaken Liael=amorta was Liael revived by Rezael's design force, so it stands to reason that once it was used in season 1, there was no Liael anymore however when sybilt gave that power to Rezael again, Liael's existence became a possibility.
So I think Liael=amorta and future Hikari come into reality if Akina dies, because this future Hikari could be different from the one we know in S1.
On another note, since Liael and Rezael have the same design force, this could be S1 future hikari as her existence was restored by Rezael having his power back and asl long as its there she exists.
@@samuquinhaplay5708 ah Interesting thought, healing "Hikari" might've effected both them.
27:01 I was lied to on Reddit but I’m so happy she’s back .
I can't route for present Hikari cause if she changes the past then Akira doesn't have a reason to fight in the fated clash that mean Akira never changed Sou meaning he wins and kills all fated ones meaning losing his senpai his friend and a kid is tried to help but couldn't imagine the mental damage that does to him
Point 1: if hikari is going to change the past by beating her future self then akina will not going to obtained rezael and the result akina is not going to get teaching and interested in vanguard by nao senpai.
Point 2: Suo will not going to recover his past without akina's help which will going to kill the wielders of fated one including masanori, her idol mi- tan and nao senpai also not included taizo since in the first season of Divinez he wasn't interested in participating the fated clash.
Point 3: I feel bad for senka that she was supposed to have a chance to challenge nao then I also feel bad to for yuna since she only has a chance to meet mi-tan in the concert as well since she is also a fan for mi-tan.
Point 4: the time cannot balance properly without the original history which also result for hikari's team will not like her anymore.
Point 5: the mental damage will get even worst for hikari now since she is already causing her trouble which will be her own wish now and the time will punish her and turning hikari to rust which also result that will be her own fault by changing the past.
So the only way to fix the time again is both future hikari and akina will going back to the early present time and stop her in the destined showdown before happening since her wish is already a curse now by sybilt akina is going to challenge and confront hikari by using rezael deck and future hikari will make a sacrifice by giving liael amorta from akina again and he will add both rezael and amorta support that can help boost his potential on his deck from DZ booster set 5 then akina is going to wear the mask that future hikari wears since the first season of Divinez anime which can be a low profile so that the others will not get seen by other participants and in his deck will be upgraded as well and akina is going to make his own wish that present hikari deserves and this time he will save her correctly by guarding liael amorta from additional turn from odium's divine skill and final attack since liael amorta helps trigger her memory so that she can see if she change the past by winning in the destined showdown so this will happen for her that time will going to messed her back because of what she has done which she will get scared of changing her past then the time punished her and not just her also the future will not get balance properly which scares present hikari that the time will not balance properly because of her interference by stopping her past self from the same accident and not just her also her past self and young akina gets punished by time as well until future hikari is going to confront her by talking to her that changing the past is wrong so that she can understand from her future self then the present hikari will let go of the past wish that the event that is already happened from the start will also going to let go as well as and she will create her new wish that can move forward which also making her mental pollution lifted slowly by creating her new wish that the time move forward instead of changing the past that akina will going save her then her mental pollution lift in the last episode of 2nd season Divinez anime.
Let go of the past, then time moves forward.
It's TIMES to hype and hyping for the next one!
Now it won't be 'a glimmer of LIGHT' for Akina anymore since there are TWO lights now. 😂
Indeed lol
In a sense both lil Sis design force wish is to change back time.
The alter one (older) want to change the past where her brother disappeared into void
The current one ( younger) want to change the event that happened 10 years ago. If she gets her wish granted then there a timeline with 3 hikari myoudo.
Future Hikari's return is the greatest plot twist in DivineZ. Liael Odium skill is insane, but the question is her DS super broken? I seriously can't wait fo next week's episode and your guys' rambling was hilarious lol.
We need a support that her persona ride her divine skill reride.
@@Ant-Man-dx4qf 😂 we were so immersed man what a wild ride, I love that twist! It's hard to say if it's broken because we don't know the costs and conditions, plus if she doesn't have persona ride that helps
I was not expecting Hikari's savior to be herself lol
Also, I was hoping for more Chronojet "appearances" in Odium's catds, but guess not.
Crazy twist dude, but it makes sense in a cosmic sort of way lol
@@godsman00 I'm fully expecting a 3rd Lial that has both of them together and is dual-nation.
@@AI7428 Probably just as cracked too
@@AI7428 Majesty Lord Liael anybody
Future Hikari and liael amorta is akina rezeal miracle from now to the future!
I cannot believe they actually put turn repeat in standard, the format has reached the point of putting Chronovisor Heritage in the game. At least it doesn't seem as pressuring, which might be the deck's weakness but we'll have to see the support cuz we didn't get much of that.
Future Hikari was very unexpected,something must be keeping her to continue existing and it might be the Destined Showdown. I saw a comment saying that she could still be existing because her wish to go back in time was to save Akina, but in the new timeline of the Destined Showdown, Akina still dies, so her wish isn't fulfilled yet. That could be why she still exists. Future Hikari vs Hikari though, Godsman you know what you have to do for Odium fight night now
DivineZ has really become unpredictable with its plot now, heck after next episode there's still 4 or 5 more. What else are we getting after the Destined Showdown?! And it's not just the mystery of the ruins, we're still missing Kuon's backstory or why he wants to go to Cray, there's definitely some forgotten history with him and Suou that we don't know yet. And his eyes when he was staring at him, he's actually starting to give villain vibes with how much he's been enabling everyone else.
It skipped the ride and main phase and you will also lose out on your Persona Ride so I think they balanced it well.
If they are really no 4th attack enabler support than I say the deck won't be that over power. It'll probably be like Blangdmire where the deck just lose gas if you survived it Divine turn.
@@giancarlourielmarpa6037 it needs the Tuesday reveals but the very concept is so daring fr fr
@@tweetug3697I also imagine a counter blast cost! It basically a more aggressive version of liael amorta divine skill reimagined.
Liael odium more offensive
Liael amorta defensive
We're having UBW Archer vs Shirou I see.
@@tweetug3697 *UBW theme intensifies*
Only this time, WE WANT Archer to Win
Kokoro wa mada iro wo hanatsu~~~
Saigo no stardust maiagare
Dust to dust
Ash to ash
Kanata ee
This was truly a destined fight XD
Man what a matchup, caught completely off guard bro
Back from my break and watched every episode up to this point, and it did not disappoint. And there are a lot of things we got:
1. Now we know a bit of what happened to Hikari from the accident, but it still doesn’t quite excuse her actions so far as being bratty. And Akina’s loss was kinda predictable considering how there’s still a lot more episodes in the season, but this fight is identical to Amorta’s last season. (Fact: This episode proves that the current Akina can’t win against Dark States without help. Still upset at how they use States as an antagonistic deck to Akina.)
2. Odium is perfect in the Gear Chronicle aesthetic, and her Divine Skill is what we all wanted for Amorta, so glad they gave us what we wanted. Still a bit iffy about her own Gauge mechanic cause that just makes Impauldio less special now. (I thought to myself that I wouldn’t be surprised if she used Gungram or Ashur- Da this fight).
3. As for the return of the future, I think it was done to compensate for Amorta having minimal support and they wanted to show it in a way that wasn’t making Odium a dual-nation type card. I also think it was a good way to hype up the eventual Akina vs. Kuon fight and make that matchup less predictable.
I was seriously hoping for Hikari’s Sreneugid song to play with Odium, but I love this new soundtrack just as much, so maybe future Hikari’s return will give me my wish to hear that song one more time.
Overall, great episode, but still diverges in an odd direction as it’s giving more questions than answers. But it’s gonna be “time” for Liael to shine (Pun intended).
On a side note: We actually haven’t heard Kyohma talk for a month until this episode. Usually he’s sitting on the sidelines silently watching the matches.
@@rrr271003 great points, and Yeah Kyouma is pretty damn quite I wish he spoke more 🤣
@@godsman00 you know, with everything going on so far, I wouldn’t be surprised if Jinki or even Kyohma got another fight this season, cause the main problem with having a larger cast is trying to give them all an equal amount of love. Like in Season One, every character had at least 2 fights with their Divine cards(Even Liael was used in a fight twice).
I think they kinda clear it this time.
They went to picnic, finding a ruins and enter it, Hikari get sick and hospitalized after that.
My theory, its Hikari that ask to enter the ruins and Akina follow her. But after that, something happens that makes Hikari & Akina wounded. That time, Akina get his toxic hero of justice shenigans because he can't protect Hikari and Hikari get Survivor Guilt because she takes Akina "life".
Maybe we'll get more about this incident & ruins when Sybilt reveal his plan.
Future Hikari was something I was expecting to happen and I'm glad it did!
Now how is she here? My current main theories are:
- The emergence of Destined Ones basically brought her back in some way (Could because of wish to reverse time or the concentration of Design Force create a miracle to bring to her back.)
- Idea 2, Liael. Yep, if Hikari faded away into the time stream it is possible for gear chronicle/Liael to potentially rescue her. Considering that Cray and Earth are very close at the moment, this might be possible, and kind of funny, as it would mean there is also a small chance that Hikari has experienced Kuon's wish (That last part isn't necessary to this idea)
- She is basically a walking ghost. Her existence has mostly faded away but in some way (again maybe due to the Design Force or another factor), has reappeared for a moment my contracting her remaining energy. This sounds similar to idea 1, but I guess has darker connotations, as she would basically be slowly dying again, but instead of sickness, it's a slow painful disappearance into a void.
I have some smaller ideas, but these are what I think are most likely. I guess theory four is someone else saved her, but I do like that one less because it is reliant on someone we don't know doing something.
@@BobpleTheGreat I'm just hoping she gets a good outcome out of this, F. Hikari's existence is soon tentative
Because of the exact wording of her wish, Wishing to change the Fate of Death of her brother, perhaps Akina ends up dying again, which at that point buddy is Subaru, but because of that, F.Hikari remanifested the moment he lost
See I knew Keter Liael would come back in some way shape or form, BUT... I didn't think Future Hikari would be apart of it! BUT... Gab did say she would either get erased, just go back to her time or just stay there unable to go back so I knew it was one of those three options but damn. I'm glad we are getting more info towards the big reveal of this accident and how it links everyone to each other.
But man this season and the rest of the episodes are gonna be PEAK! And I can't wait.
Also this may or may not be important but remember, Taizo STILL KEPT future Hikari's mask that DIDN'T fade away.
@@98sparkz ooooo yeah the mask, that not fading might've been a whole hint this entire time and we didn't think about that!
i think that for ordium the divine skill is very cool and i love it as a gear main during g era , i think it would be cool if it forces the opponent to leap back to the past by riding from soul 1 grade less than your current vanguard so if i am at g3 rn then the divine skill would ride a grade 2 vanguard this attack and it would be an interesting idea that i have since most if not all of ordium support cards does not state that ur opponents vanguard is g3 or greater , mostly just if u have regress gauges. what are your thoughts?
@@lostlegend5798 it's a neat trick though tbh it'd probably just fall short of what we have here already since the support really lines up with her gameplan
Just rewatched episode 11 of season 1 DivineZ and I finally realized that the two Hikari (Hikaris?) have opposite Divine Skill end-poses. Fated One Hikari spread her right hand while Destined One Hikari spread her left. Not sure if this detail has any other deeper meaning.
@@magicalswordsman5838 I believe it's based on how clocks operate. Clockwise means moving forward on time and counterclockwise is backwards in time.
Well, isn't that wholesome, Liael is on her way to filling her complaints against the past just like Big bro did to the future
@@RoamingSimp what goes around comes around
Hikari right now is part of Liael, the guardian of time. There is Theory long time ago Vanguard in cray is player incarnation on Earth. So I think Liael is exist outside time, and thank to the future change Future Hikari and Liael share same domain. Mean Future Hikari is may a time guardian and belong to Cray now, when time were alter she were drawn back to earth.
@@sebastianpendragon interesting, so if one exists the other must as well...
@@godsman00 also... Liael is Chronojet's successor terms on power... so yeah
Chrono Shindou: yoo... dafuq?
Just mi humbly cooking here: If all this results in Sybilt having planned EVERYTHING since Future Hikari's timeline ----> the Akina she saw back in the hospital was the Destined One version.
It would STILL be bad writing for a very convoluted surprise (Sybilt should have "saved" Akina from Suo's void wish and then polluting his mind). So maybe even 2 physical Akina...and if that's the case then maybe future Hikari will actually go back to to her time/home since she will have a place/person to return to/with.
spent time think have come to the conclusion that both myodos really need a therapist!
like it clear they both have been coping with this in there own way and both aren't over what happen!
like to hear how hikari is grateful to akina but so grateful to point she hate herself and refer to the "accident" as her sin is a definite extreme. maybe taizo was on to something maybe her cheer self was a act to convince other as well herself that there wasn't any reason to worry about her. that she was smiling even though she was in pain.
and from akina pov I think he was genuinely happy to be with her, and wanted to help her anyways he could, since for a me a sign that just how he was is him staying at suo place ep 7
but when hikari called him out on it man look liked he was going to break down
15:50 something I feel like from this point was akina wavering /hesitating when hikari confront her about things. Unlike in the fated clash there no passion no heart behind it. Every fight he’s been it was clear he was having fun but not this one! Feels like his mind was else where
like during this moment ownwards he wondering if he did the right thing.
21:43 I don’t know if he doesn’t care but I think it like “if this how she feels have I’ve been wrong all this time”
I think he’s been genuinely happy doing what been doing all this time but hearing how she feel is making him feel unsure about things
25:46 akina face kinda say a lot!
seem the myodos are bad at talking with each other and just need to be more honest about things😅
Also love that suo tried to cheer up Akina in the same way he did for him when he lost!
This episode is amazing, and I really enjoyed how they fleshed out Hikari’s motivation. That twist is insane! I’m already convinced that Divinez season 2 is the best season of all Vanguard, hands down. Also glad Keter Liael is gonna get some more love!
@@BBbreeze yessir, I root for both Hikari's now it's great writing! Amorta gonna be eating well in Set 5 bet!
Odium can't do persona ride because one card were taken away from actual Liael to make Seventh Fated one counterpart. Since there is no seventh fated one, so Seventh Destined one created by clone to Seventh fated one. Once Destined Showdown over the card will probably return to Future Hikari deck depend who win.
Maybe its just a paradox… Odium Wins (Akina die) future version of herself take place in a fated clash with Amorta to save him or her future wish was to go back in time save him so technically her future wish is still active and She came back to save him from the odium timeline
@@gianlucazennaro9907 it gets real convoluted 😂
For the first time, I have no words for this episodes, the only thing can say is that I told you so that akina will lose but even that is a collective acknowledgement, so… idk, guess I can say that with both fated and destined version of liel fighting each other, I may finally get my destined fated one with liel
Lol yeah we all knew that one lol😂
Future Hikari has the Daigo effect. Back when Royal Paladin ceased to exist, Daigo held onto them and never existed in one place for long. 😂
Kuon extremely sus
Yuuuuup Kuon gave up that chance to fight really easily ngl
Kuon was hedge betting by doing nothing. If destined one win he get to go to Cray. If fated one wins, Sybilt likely to come to Earth thus opening a path to Cray because of traitor. if he fight he could potentially lose
@@godsman00also "Odium" name finally make sense Hikari hate...."herself" for being the bind that lock her brother freedom, anthesis to "Amorta" which Future Hikari back for the sake of her "Beloved" brother
Imagine if Akina were defeated before he even could ride Rezael or use divine skill, what the animation look like. For example Hikari first drive check are critical trigger and second is criticall trigger and then the third one is over trigger. 4 critical and 1M + 4 critical and +10K rearguard. And then she use Divine skill, get another turn and get +1 critical trigger, front trigger.
omega sack lol
Future hikari opens the door to so many theories. Maybe her mask played a part, maybe odium creation led to amorta revival, maybe akina losing retriggered future hikari wish to protect and help her brother which revived her to help akina. Or it could also be the theories you guy had. Maybe we can have a stream or video later discussing everything that led up to this point and maybe some predictions how this fight might play out
I got a cracked theory and i think Taizo's actually the one who's posessed by Sybilt and the Mask is actually the trap as we have no mention of it thus far and at the end of season 1 Taizo was the one in posession of the mask
@@arcsoulphantom2678 ooooo maybe yeah, I'll ask folks next time and see if we can get another theory session on Tuesday's stream!
My personal theory is that since future Hikari’s wish was to protect Akina by traveling back in time by 3 years, so what if she was never erased and Lieal Amorta just transported her to another point in time during that three year period that Akina was in danger
Also going to Cray was definitely Suo and Kuon’s wish which is the reason why he wants it so bad
Ah so they're anchored together potentially, yeah that works! Though In that case they shouldn't be attacking Rezael 😂
It caught me off guard to because the end of the season 1 the Hikari in the future supposed to dissapeared since the future is been altered when suou is been stopped
Maybe this is for the best so Hikari will learn that she must not be trapped in the past and continue looking forward to the future
@@akittofuruhashi indeed, she needs to hear it from herself
@@godsman00
From the start i thought hikari is the one possesed by sybilt but since the episode where its revealed that the possesed one is a participant of fated clash maybe its the future hikari or Akino who knows
I kinda saw the connection with the side info given in each episode and the back story . It happens 10 years ago exactly when the siblings get into the accident in the " ruins " inside a cave . Its kinda cool to see an altered Razael
Honestly, after watching the episode, I am working on a theorycraft already for this deck. One of the few Destined One's I've enjoyed it's gameplay.
@@MellfyCatty this is gonna be a menace on future streams Fr fr 🤣, I'm looking forward to seeing you cook.
5-6 attacks with 5 drives😂😂 ok blangdmire, eva, rezael, shiranui, zorga, levidras, drajewel.. its probably the new tier S deck and with such a power boost its insane, of course not like impauldio or zorga 60+k but with persona its solid 40-50 k attacks
Imagine Odium power was flashfoward, force Akina draw all card to hand left only one card on the deck. Or her power reset her table, damage become 0, drop zone and hand become 0; everything on her field and hand reset except her vanguard. If she already use overtrigger she can put it back to the deck and use it second time.
Or force Akina end his turn and get a six damage.
@@sebastianpendragon pffft she still crazy ngl
I am soo Glad it's not Suo vs Akina. Again in what world does it makes sense for Akina who we all knew was Losing because Episode 2, IT IS MENTIONED that in the case of a 3-3 tie, we get a 7th fight, you don't mention that in a tournament setting in Anime unless it happens that way, but in what world does it make sense for Akina who just lost, to fight Kuon who beat Suo, the guy Akina only beat because of a Deus Ex Machina in a Psudeo Sentinal skill that in his deck requires the use of the opponents Skill. And with 2 weeks ago Nao winning to allow Fate to be up 3-2 at the time, Akina was Losing. Will+Dress worked because A: Yuyu had an internal character flaw in that he was acting like the very thing he was rejecting, and B: He was the only one in Will+Dress who had a relationship with Gui.
Will admit, didn't think of it being Future vs Present Hikari though. That caught me and the Live Chat off Guard and what's even crazier, someone on Twitter/X called out week's ago, that Future Hikari would in a ghostly visage manifest through the mask and help fight
Also how is that fair. A Divine Skill that has a negative cost(s) and the Act Skill gives you Triple. Like could you have made it Drive +1 at least. Like at least with Varga and Impauldio there is actual costs for it, here it's literally free
The cost might be balanced from the potential time it takes to activate. It requires 5 gauge to activate and outside of the one you get from the ride line, only Odium and her order may increase it further. So currently it is locked to second grade 3 turn, if not even later if you don't see your second copy of the order. Also without the Dragon seen at 21:20 that additional turn will only have two attacks.
If we're looking at how it might be structured from what we saw in the episode...
[CONT](VC): During your turn, all of your front row units get [Power]+5000 for each Distored Bane in your Regress gauge
[AUTO](VC): When this unit attacks, COST [Energy Blast (?) & Put a rear-guard into your Regress gauge], and this unit gets Triple Drive until end of turn.
Divine Skill-[AUTO](VC): At the end of the battle this unit attacked, if you have 5 or more regress gauge, COST [Energy Blast (?) Discard two cards from your hand], and at the end of your turn, take an additional turn after this turn, and skip your next ride phase and main phase.
The Energy Blast is speculative from the shot of her generator here 19:59 and here 23:18. it appeared she did not have any Energy left when she was going into her extra turn, though if what she said in the episode is 1:1 its less likely the on attack has that a part of its cost.
(Could also grant the extra turn ability instead, will have to wait and see though. Regardless interested to see how they're going to word this)
@calebjacobson3139 Okay, and how many Divine Skills have that same "balance" of being used on Persona because if going 1st? It's the fact that the discard 2 is negligent because right from the getgo you have Triple Drive. So that 2nd turn you discard the 2 extra cards you drew from drives 3 and 6. At least Elementaria Sanct is free now
33:45 A mage did it. A mage called DESIGN FORCE which can bends the laws of physics. That's s close of a proper explanation and hint we will get xd.
Ohh no I just realized something so sad 😢 if current hikari gets her wish. That I’m not sure even she herself even realizes
The nice ending would be for her to disappear like future hikari “concept of time is iffy since future hikari back”
The sad ending is that if she makes back to the present the brother she once knew and was grateful for won’t be there anymore. She’ll have to live with a brother she doesn’t know.😢
@@jamesluong5299 tsk tsk indeed, no happy ending there, but that's kinda thematic when you think about it.
Heyy, Bushi listened to my wish of seeing a “Liael vs Liael” fight!
@@nguyenanhhao5972 Man it's crazy but yeah we got it!
I just realize about something that I kinda hope for but previously let go early in the season.but now really hoping for. Is that hope akina and the rest of team fate makes like a super wish and wish for future hikari to stay and live in the present! To me that would truly be a wish for himself.
Liael showdown coming up
Bet
This episode was insane!!! Future hikari return was the most giga chad thing I've ever seen!
first they create a tragic backstory first and got us attach
they make her dissappear
leads up to what we believe would be akina kuon final
than they said no
and bring her back! the prayers have been answer
I love Divinez!! Has been better than anything I’ve seen ever pre D era!
there was something interesting about the liael odium in comparison to liael amorta
liael odium is way more offensive where liael amorta is defensive yet there's skill seem to work under a similar fashion
beside the music I felt like liael odium was fighting with a lot more desperation, reckless and malicious almost like she didn't care about her self at all that she was just want to push past something
in comparison to amorta who seem to be a lot more calculated and even rational
which could also be what we see in there fighter they control
current hikari is way more emotional, hateful. the halo she had one her back while maybe be a source of power it could how she views what happen basically carrying the weight of what happen in the past but also rejecting it to. I guess it make sense to since she still young and feels like everything happen so far is her sin, I imagine as a child for trauma such is this if not dealt with could basically feel like the end of world.
while future hikari was more calm, rational, she was emotional but I felt like she was a different type compare to current hikari! maybe the dark clothes she wear was her accepting what happen but because there was a green stripe it was her determination to change all that!
this next fight is gonna be so good! did not expect me to be more hype for next week fight than this won but here we are!
Next episode maybe future hikari could get current to accept what happened and fine closure on and hopefully maybe that’ll also help Akina
I think the biggest factor that may influence the fight and the difference between them
at least to me was current hikari felt like her goal was "I have to make up to him"
vs
future hikari previous goal "I have to save him!
That leaves the question how Akina and Kuon would fight now?
Maybe for the finale?
Maybe Sylbit gonna corrupt 1 and fight another
@@hakaizuk Gonna plug in the controller to a poor soul lol
@@seantey1797 Maybe after 'Hikari" wins, the Design Force gathers, Sybilt removes all the polluted things from everyone...and goes FULLY POSSESSING *AKINA* after. Then Kuon fight him and lose. Then SUO will win! 😆
Man, Hikari is going to have SO MANY questions for future hikari, she might need to take a few minutes to take that in kek.
@@gustavo555tani lol and watch F. Hikari fade like 5 mins after the fight, no time for questions cuz plot 🤣
I saw it coming. The cards are magical and she has the Fated One of TIME
It would be more of a twist if it did not happen everything considered.
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Also if remember correctly, Akina wishes towards Rezael for Hikari to get healthy, he didn't specify which Hikari(can be both). Kinda like Suo wish for nothing and Blangdmire gave him nothing.
Still Akina is kinda MC dumb, younger Hikari ask what he wish for himself, he repeat the same wish is what frustrated her. Yet during the ep, where Nao vs B hero user Mondo, Akina technically stated his wish of enjoying peaceful moments with his friends.
I think Hikari meant a more selfish wish, cause wanting peace with your friends while a great wish is still rooted in selflessness. Maybe Hikari meant a wish that was more self serving, like deciding your career, or getting the courage to finally ask Nao out.
soo glad future hikari is back. this means there will be keter liael support in set 05 and she baaaddlllyy needs it, she has so much problems that needs to be addressed and hopefully set 05 can solve some of it if not all
@@l3goshi Yeboi, super happy too cuz this deck's potential can finally be unlocked if Bushi cooks here!
9:35 man what is Kuon cooking
It would be very funny if in one time in their battle, both Hikari is agree for 1 thing : their big brother is a big idiot.
Always
And both Lieal agree that Razeal also idiot
I think the Persona Ride icon is on purpose at this point
I don't know what the significance would be, but earlier today I realized that if Future!Hikari beats Hikari and frees her from the mental pollution, then Kuon will be the only one left mentally polluted. Even if he's not the one possessed, maybe Sybilt will take him over and make him the final boss? I don't know, I just feel like it could be relevant somehow.
@@jacobbiggs7956 oh agreed, it's like Kuon knows something the others don't and him being the last man standing is probably integral for that
Senka is farming so much CHARISMA points that I'm eager to forgive her lack of exploration. If they continue giving her that treatment then she will be out of the "just introductory episode and no more writing" character's bench which is currently occupied by Mikoto, Yuna and the Destined of Scales.
That ending dam this may feel like a dumb question but the fact the future Hikari and Hikari are in the same timeline now isnt it a paradox? idk time travel stuff is confusing 😅
@@Eclipse9717 it's so subjective, the subject of time. I'd say it's probably cool to roll with it ngl 😂
Odium's OST giving me Kalafina vibes. So, another Fate reference lol.
@@MH_Zard and Madoka Magica at that, it really resonates!
Bruh imagine we get misprint Persona rideless Odium in the set as another rarity.
@@MH_Zard lmao 🤣 alt deck build challenge baby
"Odium's divine skill! Za-warudo!!"
this episode so crazy @@
Still potential for 7th destined one.
Good luck boys.
(Also, knew Noir would like her, and Dark is hating this new girl lol)
@@scarlightemperor3410 lol she's gonna have a place in all our hearts one way or another 🤣
I WASNT COPING
Hikari vs Hikari
@@skylernguyen8600 we live in the correct reality 😂
this is legion mate all over again "lore wise"
Liael=Odium a.k.a That Time Mystery Flare Got Reincarnated as a Goth Angel!
ngl the ending i didnt expected now we get a hikari vs hikari espisode aka wich version of liael is better moment xD
@@jzwart4588 I'm so torn man 😱
@@godsman00 man would be funny if season 3 of divine bring another liael version aka we have future pressent and past versions 1 unit xD
Honestly my theory about future hikari setting the trap was a bit far fetched but I feel like it could be correct because her being there couldn’t be a coincidence
It was on ep 11 i think the time stamp was 11:00 the table turns red
@@bluestorm5720 I'm still holding out on the Akina theory but yeah
Jesus! Divinez needs to chill with their story telling. Honestly, Divinez makes me care more for the story progression and plot than the TCG. The fights, animation, card effect reveals just intensifies it.
As for the ending, I was shocked but, honestly, future Hikari is the PERFECT deciding player for this clash. 2 Hikari facing one another is pretty poetic; one fought to change the future while one is fighting to change the past. I guess this parallel will be the "Point of Intersection" (yup, next episode's title) and have something to do with the Design Force. However, they better explain next episode how and why is she back.
Overall, this episode was insane!
@@jhonlhorbae9430 agreed, freaking hats off to the writers, throwing Future Hikari at Hikari is checkmate in the most beautiful way.
looks like the Steam Maidens are also blessed by Heritage
@@FBI_Not a legacy of power
If there was a 7th Destined one, I am gunning for Destined one of Despair, Rezael.
@@paponvichchattrapronvichia4126 ooooo I like the flavor
Which Dark States vanguard has the better skill
Fated one of zero: bind and negate
Destined one of time: turn skip
Tuesday should answer that question
Maybe akina discovers that in order to figure out what he wants now that his sister is better he realizes he has to leave
I'm going to ask the question, does rezael also have a dark states variant?
@@acwolf92 nope, but a potential Destined One may change that!
@@godsman00I'll rephrase, What if rezael destined one is a dark states unit
@@acwolf92 we might get a wicked 6th damage ping skill lol
HERE WE GO
SO CRAZY BRO WE ON FOR A WILD RIDE!
IT REALLY IS UGHHH. When nothing happened after she paid the cost, I was like "Wait did Godsman hit the nail with the defensive Divine Skill he thought of in that one video?" BUT NO IT WAS A TURN SKIP. It was so obvious but seeing it laid down infront of me was AAAAAA
CANT WAIT FOR PEAK NEXT WEEK. WE NEED EXPLANATIONS AND MORE LORE. NEW CARDS TOO??? As it said unitS with Divine Skill at set 5, so 🤭🤭🤭
Also loved how you took the time to point out the track for Hikari it's really beautiful! Both Future and Present Hikari have bomb music, possibly Bushi's fave child?
@@goingoverload6096 God I felt the same way for a whole ass second but naw we got something even crazier! Man the explanations, the fight action, the dialouge and character interactions, the Amorta support, dude next week promises so much I'm getting sensory overload!!!
We got Shirou vs Archer with next ep
We better not have to wait two more weeks for this episode I can’t handle it again
I busted the moment I saw Liael Odium in action.
@@archerexiv3740 low key same 😍
"That's pretty mature for her age"
Buddy, I know she doesn't look like it, but she's 15... XD
@@Blizz3112 lol still pretty mature, teenagers tend to be self absorbed y'know?
I can’t believe it is really different from Amorta
@@tristanreyes8590 Bushi can indeed still cook!
Best girl is back 🎉🎉
She's glorious!
LETS GOOOOOOOOOO
Welcome back heritage
@@ZEDEX252 *shudders*
You singer friend not sing Hikari theme 😢😢
@@FrederickVG Bro is off his game ngl
We all know Akiana's gonns loses. We all know divine skill must be some sort of gear chonicle. But nobody knows who's gonna fight tie break match.
*Edit NAO STILL BEST GIRL
@@reversal3628 indeed, we all thought Kuon v Akina but we were SO wrong bro
This is za warudo !!!!
@@user-Raxyfriendly IT WAS ME, DIO!
Why does maz hate future hikari
@@lukesun4975 he likes the character, but he feels that her character arc should've ended at S1 and using her in S2 would be low hanging fruit. I personally think it's still a cool plot development if they make it feel impactful and real, and heck Maz might warm up to it if the plot treats it well
this is stupid, its not drive plus 1, she gains the SKILL triple drive, making that minus drive cost easily negated
You see people? It is 100% possible to make Gear Chronicle without needing to shoehorn stride into a format where it doesn't belong and screw everyting forever.
"Stride deckests were necessary!" myth debunked for the rest of eternity now pls stop making those things.
If she change the past Akina will never meet razal and sybilt
will take over
Why did she have to come back...
They never showed her being erased from existence.
@@elin111 She disappeared. I wanted her to stay gone
Why do people not want her when she's literally the best thing about the damn show?? Everytime She's involved you know the story is going to move in a good direction
@@anotherme3476 I didn't like her season 1. I don't want her back
Damm wasn't expecting a literal mirror match
@@catgirllover-ec8ly crazy right! Next week is gonna be lit, I'm rooting for both 😂