Daniel Cormier, Ariel Helwani Debate DC’s Top Fighters List - MMA Fighting
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- Daniel Cormier and Helwani got into a friendly debate over their top 5 fighters of all time when DC appeared in studio on The MMA Hour.
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It would be farfetched to have Amanda even on a list of the top 20
Nah Amanda places around 10-15
@@ben_mcgac For all-time MMA? I can agree with that. Including boxing? No way.
@@LA7777777777 I forgot this was boxing aswell yeah that’s fair
I disagree
DC not having Jon jones on his list is wild but not surprising 😂😂
if you get caught using steroids, our of the question period.
did you even watch the video?
@@johnconor5485to you!
@@P0L021 to everyone who knows what is real
@@P0L021 to everyone 😂
DC is trippin HAAAARD 😂😂😂
I think even DC doesn't believe in his list
Yes a strange list Amanda has losses. He said he reserves the top two for not having any losses but it's only five people on the list. And he made an integrated list of male and females. As good as Amanda is she couldn't be any of the men on the top 100 fighters list. For example Amanda couldn't be John Jones and he's not even on the damn list.
Hate. Amanda she is the GREATEST * GOAT * and she only one STUTUS GOAT
@@tinaruzol7256 I love her as a fighter she's got a truly inspirational story. But could she beat the top 100 male fighters of all time I don't think so. Saying that she's number five out of all the people that have ever boxed or done MMA that's ridiculous. Saying that she's on a level with Muhammad Ali come on now..... for real!!!?
Amanda Nunes she is the GREATEST * GOAT * and AMAZING. She only one STUTUS GOAT.
@@ernestclayboniii656 Do you know what P4P means? Any top 100 MMA fighter, Amanda included, would floor Ali, Tyson, and Mayweather in a real fight. On the same night. And it wouldn't even be close.
2:03 Amanda Nunes and Mohammed Ali on the same list 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂
lol yea thats a good way to look at it and see how bad and ridiculous this list is
Amanda nunes she is the GREATEST. *. GOAT * and AMAZING. She only one STUTUS GOAT
If you get choked out by Juliana Peña you shouldn't be anywhere near this list.
Amanda BEAT and Knocked down Julianna 3 times by Punching and wrestling. Julianna got a wound on FOREHEAD that's why Surgical stitches was made (. Missing Chuck.). Julianna is BLOODY MESS. AMANDA IS DOMINATED JULIANNA
Julianna FOREHEAD IS BLEEDING MANY BLOOD ON THE FLOOR. AMANDA is dominated Julianna
DC eating a chicken sandwich and 5 cupcakes is crazy 😂
Daniel doesn’t eat the food
Okay DC keeps showing how biased he is, Khabib is great, greater than great. But he’s talking about best fighters ever with 29 fights? Sugar Ray Robinson went like 40-0 before he lost and then went on a 89 fight win streak. But yeah Khabib fight 29 times…
I agree, not long enough in the game to be considered. But great fighter.
and over half of em were cans.
No one could ever beat Khabib. That's as objective as you can get. He never made any mistakes
@@Triggercut92 false.
@@Triggercut92 nobody could ever beat Tyson Fury, Rocky Marciano, Jimmy Barry, Andre Ward, Joe Calzaghe. All undefeated and had more fights than khabib. So objectively they’re all better?
Miss watching this duo every week
Metoo
best mma show ever imo. made me smile so consistently
Love Ariel calling him out
baaad list dc. Amanda being on the same list as gsp and Ali is insane.
noone had anything to say about the matt sera knockout or the fact that Johny Hendricks beat him like a red headed step child
@@Danfromthenorth84 flukes like the serra thing happen to the best, and he avenged it with a vengeance and beat serra down, and if you go by score with how fights were being scored, he beat hendrix. Sure GSPs face was beat up, but he did what he needed to to win the war. Plus, scoring by rounds, they both had 2 clear rounds they won anyway, so it was basically just decided on a round. Casuals going around acting like Hendricks dominated GSP is laughable.
Amanda she is the GREATEST. *. GOAT *. and AMAZING. She only one STUTUS GOAT
2:05
Loved how he called him out for being a company man 😂😂😂😂
1:05 the way he couldn’t remember what her name was hilarious
Jones` head kick really messed with DC`s brain
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Lmao
I said the same thing😹😹😹
@@sanjutamang4622 no
I think it was the excessive PEDs and eye poking and cheating he got away with more then the head kick.
To be fair to DC, making a list of only 5 for both boxing and UFC is very tough. But having no Bones on there is pure salt 😂.
he's failed like 4 drug tests. They don't have bonds in the hall of fame. Same reason
@@drewdrewson1384 True that would dissuade some people from putting him top 5. The Hall of Fame especially MLB is a very prestigious thing so I can see politically why you wouldn’t want a person with steroid problems in there. But for a personal top 5 list I think it’s a little different. With what Jones has done in the sport I’m willing to still have him in my top 5 even with his tainted past.
if you get caught using steroids, our of the question period.
call it salt but its very consistent, he didn't put silva there either because he also popped, and if you actually listened he calls him an all time great but he doesnt have to put ped users in his own list if he doesnt want to. See you people need to understand what a subjective "greatest fighter list" is he can disqualify anyone he wants with his subjective thoughts just like people will disqualify khabib for not having enough title defenses despite his accomplishments.
He has khabib but not srr that is a far worse crime
DC’s list is crazy 😂 but I appreciate the loyalty he has for his friend Khabib.
Having Khabib and Amanda is insane
dc not having jbj is just obvius, I think personally that jbj is the best mma fighter ever and probably also the best fighter ever
Rocky M. fought guys bigger than himself -- he had a chin, Heart, hit hard and hit longer.
Flyod is certainly great. Mike T. made a good point, great isn't fearing the people, it's when you're loved by the people. Mike says Floyd needs body guards to take his kids to school.
What the hell does that have to do with Floyd's record in the ring?
@@Colby_0-3_IRL_and_title_fights great isn't the record, it's who the fighter is, how the fighter fights, and who they fight and what adversity they've overcome in the fight.
Flyod is the best defensive fighter, not the greatest of all time.
Rocky M's boxing style was made for fighting bigger fighters lol
90% of the guys Floyd fought were bigger than him
Oh please rocky would get smash vs any legend og heavyweight, rocky is too small.. george foreman would ate rocky for a breakfast snack!!
0:31 “bro listen to me” absurd dad energy
Having any MMA fighter that isn’t GSP or JBJ on a list with the goat boxers is comedy
fpr real lol
demetrius johnson?
can count on 1 hand how many rounds khabib has lost. he has every right to be on the list. i think jbj should’ve been on it before gsp tho
Add DJ to the list and spot on
@@kingwild772 khabib is an amazing fighter but do you think he could have been as dominating in the WW division. GSP and Khabib are almost identical in size and walkaround weight. So that being said Khabib's stats at LW can not be compared with GSP.'s at WW.
UFC 'S WW division is a tidal wave of wrestlers and grapplers that can hit harder than LW. It is not a fair comparison. There is more padding to Khabib's record than GSP
Khabib should not even be on this list.
Is that you Salty Conor?
@@slicvm he never even mentioned mcgregor lmao
@@cuckadoodledoo Swoosh
@@slicvm 🤓
And your girlfriend Amanda does ???
Crazy list, the only one I agree with is GSP.
At least he gave Jones his respect
“No Jones” DC continuing to talk like he didn’t say it
Pacquiao has to be top 5 based off 8 weight divisions.
My man is the GOAT in eight divisions 😭
LMAOOOO Ariel such a hater he put out the Popeyes chicken sandwich and cupcakes for DC 😂😂
hey man, if you give DC Popeye's and cupcakes, I don't think he'd call you a hater 😂
I’ve never disagreed with a list as much as this one. Still love DC though, champ champ always makes me laugh 😂
The food in front of DC 😂
jon jones is pretty undefeated too 😂
DC said if he included tainted ped fights Jon Jones would be on it
I agree with Floyd. Clarissa shields is better than Amanda but but Floyd is the best combat sport fighter ever.
Not really
In my opinion
@@billcipher3946 yeah, your opinion is not smart. Lol. At all. Do some research.
Watch DC put Islam into this list after two title defences
Lol dc lowkey didn’t want to say Jon Jones
It's hard to have a list of only 5 .
Boxing has a history of 100 years+ ....so boxers will capture the whole list. And there is 30 years of MMA history. So it's unfair to have a ccommon list.
How can an expert be so delusional
DC is crazy...
it'd have been cool if they brought up uncle Mike, pretty sure DC would change his mind as soon as he hits him with a "listen"
I like his logic of reserving the top two spots for only undefeated fighters and i can definitely see how people make a case for Rocky Marciano but at the end of the day it is just one man's list and personal choice is a thing.
I’m surprised dc didn’t put himself in this trash list
DC's list is obviously crazy, but he openly states why he doesn't ever put Anderson or Jones up there, and it's fair if that's part of his criteria for GOAT (esp since he admits Jones would be "up there" on the list if not for failed tests)
Regardless of that I understand that argument it’s just the order of some guys and then also the fact that Khabib and nunes aren’t top 5 in mma. But it’s his teammate so giving him a spot sure but not the 2 spot that’s wild.
Could’ve said DJ, Jones, Silva, Fedor, he could’ve said himself, but out of all the goats he has Amanda in the top 5? 😂
The fact that he's got Khabib Over Muhammad Ali is a absolute joke
1 Rocky Marciano
2 Sugar Ray Leonard
3 GSP
4 Julio Cesar Chavez
5 Mike Tyson
Why do they have a picture of Raul Rosas Jr. on the wall?
This dude just didn’t mention manny
Lmao @ Floyd. LOST to Castillo and handpicked opponents. Never boxed killers in their prime. And Khabib? Hahaha he defended three times and bounced. 🤦♂️
Thats not a bad list, the disrespect to Nunes is crazy, you can't compare her to male fighters, thats like saying DJ is not GOAT because Jon Jones would smash him. What Nunes have done in the women's division is unprecedented, far exceeding anyone else.
GSP is the greatest fighter of all time. Full stop.
Tyson isn’t there but Amanda is
Lol, I absolutely agree that if Khabib were to continue fighting, nobody could beat him, but having him at number 2, after just 3 defences is close to saying, I would have been a successful martial artist, but I never entered any ring nor cage.
Putting Floyd at #1 instead of Sugar Ray Robinson or Muhammad Ali is WILD. Even wilder to say Amanda Nunes is better than Sugar Ray Robinson, Anderson, Fedor, Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield, Demetrious Johnson, Jon Jones, Rocky Marciano, Rodtang, list goes on.
Cormier: who is the GOAT in all aspect
Ariel: the Icon the superstar the.... conor🤣🤣
Thank you Ariel, he needed to be put in his place for that ungodly list
Khabib's great highlights:
1. First 13 fights against complete cans with 0-2 records
2. Never fought a great wrestler like Arman or Guram or Demir or Gamrot or anybody.
3. Made a career out of fighting strikers.
4. Only 3 title defenses lol
5. Terrible striker, decision machine.
Love DC but Khabib is not even Top 5 MMA fighters of all time lol
If we talk about "could've" then we say Jones would be the GOAT if he fought without steroids.
Usman and Adesanya have a way better claim to be higher on the list of greatest MMA fighters. Also, neither one of them missed weight or had to nearly kill themselves just to make the cut.
Mayweather, Ali, Jones, Tyson, Silva
DC got that CTE
Khabib will never put himself above Muhammad ali
Floyd, Ali, Tyson, Jon Jones, Conor McGregor
Cap….if we’re saying fighters and only naming mma & boxing. The list is basically a legitimated as watch mojo lol
Glad to see someone else thinking it, personally I'd have to put Samart Payakaroon in there, greatest Muay Thai fighter of all time who also won world titles in boxing. Incredible fighter
@@MrAngryorangutan facts, amazing fighter!
Ali no. 1 for winning it thrice at different times. And all the number of fights. He's an icon
Could Ali beat khabib in a fight?
Idk man, but my GOAT is Ray Robinson in boxing, and Bones on MMA
@@justinharrison5138 prime vs prime probably
@@justinharrison5138 if the question is only about beating in a fight then Jon Jones probably beats all. But his PED stuff and dqs tarnish his image. Ali has no idea on wrestling or submissions so mma fighters of today have an edge. But the list is about best fighters, which is also why Amanda is there above so many male fighters
What a horrible list, he totally lost a plot.
Just unnecessary noise.
But still love him, he's just making fun trying to stir the pot.
I love how Ariel trolls him nonstop 🤣
Worst list ever, DC is tripping.
The dynamic of this duo is great...
... the list is not.
Khabib was a natural 170 pounder and wasn’t willing to compete there. So he’s not on the list. Everyone else on the list fought at weights where they didn’t need to cut 40 pounds to fight much smaller men.
fair but he was so dominate at 155 he deserves to be on the list. I can count on 1 hand how many rounds he lost. 2 or 3 maybe.
@@kingwild772 the true greats sought to test themselves against men their size. Usman and GSP were there. He didn’t want that smoke. All his big wins were against guys that moved up from featherweight. He doesn’t have wins over great lightweight champions. No one he beat will go down as all time great at 155.
@@mvansb23 it’s not his fault there was no “comp” everyone said tony and olivera were the guys that could’ve beat him but oliveria couldn’t even get past islam and we see what’s happening with tony 😂 khabib is on a completely different level than these guys. And i never new simply changing different weight classes is what determines “greatness” lol
@@mvansb23 also Jones is top 5 greats and he has yet to win a fight at a different weight class.
@@kingwild772 none of us know anything until we see it. He had a chance to prove everything you say. And passed. Just spent his career beating up on glorified featherweights.
GSP, Pacquiao, mayweather, anderson silva, Fedor
Starsky and Hutch didn't even have this much chemistry
I got 1Jones,2 Floyd,3 Mike Tyson, 4 Demetrius Johnson and then GSP
Khabib at #2 lamo😂😂
I know 😂😂😂he should’ve been lower with his shallow resume.
He shouldn’t be in the top 5 you’re right
@@akl1054 Greatest MMA fighter of all time has a shallow resume? Just keep up with the Kardashians dude
👊🏽💯
Khabibs “undefeated” record is full of tomato cans who were either debuting in MMA or only had 1 win on their record.
So killed them with staff better than killed them with kindness?
How is Demetrius Johnson not mentioned???
But invest them with praying... Hear them pray what the positive things... And exchange the negative things to be better place
The can crusher of Dagestan. Connor could have had 20 13 second kos of legends could could blah blah
My list:
Ali
Tyson
Floyd
Jones
GSP
Katie Taylor >>>> Amanda Nunes
Greatest of all time in this reality. You don't rank them on hypothetical potential.
Let’s be real if khabib and dc weren’t teammates and like family, he wouldn’t be on this list.
The only one on his list i agree with is Khabib.
Any of these are 100 times better than Amanda;
Tyson, Jon Jones , Fedor, Ali, Floyd
Amanda is BETTER THAN Valentina and Julianna. Amanda she is the GREATEST. *. GOAT. * and AMAZING. She only one STUTUS GOAT
@@tinaruzol7256 shouldn’t be there, she should be on a female list.
Amanda she is the GREATEST.
*. GOAT. * and AMAZING. She only one STUTUS GOAT.
Khabib should he no where near the goat list. He is definitely the greatest lightweight and the most dominant. The should’ve would’ve could’ve argument is bs
Casual hater
i mean how can you say most dominant and greatest lightweight but say he isn't allowed near the goat list? Those are undeniable "greatest of all time" accolades, can't really deny what's there, none of that is should've would've could've. Just depends on what you define goat as honestly the term is washed just be more specific when describing greatest fighters.
@@ellieswagaye cus that’s 1 division they’re r lots of fighters who were arg as dominate in they’re own divisions and arguebly even more I would argue JBJ, Silva, Cruz and DJ were all even more dominant in they’re divisions
@@Kappa31 who has dominic cruz beat? He was getting decisions after decisions and cant finish anybody
@@Kappa31 also dj? Henry cejudo was his only challenge, and dont say ray borg
No Demetrius Johnson? No Tyson Fury?
Let a man have his opinions.
I love DC but this list is nuts hahaha
Khabib beat a ranked 12, 3rd option shorter notice fighter for the title, he defended it 3 times, one of those time was against mcgregor who was drunk half the time..then he bounced…he didn’t cement himself, he never fought the other top contenders, didn’t go up a weight class, didn’t win more belts…he’s possibly the best lightweight, but fighter? Absolutely not even close, and he’s not even top 5.
he beat everyone. name someone he didnt beat
@@BOZ_11 ferguson oliveira
@@gungaginga9772 ferguson had his soul taken by justin, and olives was still shaking of his journeyman status when he beat the guy who took tony's soul. We saw happened to olives via islam. cut the bs
@@BOZ_11 those are what if statements though khabib never fought them so we will never know if he didnt chicken out and dominated them he could be the goat but he didnt so too bad
@@gungaginga9772 you pr1cks cant have it both ways. if olives won, everyone was going to call him the 155 GOAT! khabib didnt "chicken out", he retired undefeated undisputed and had cleaned out the division over 13 fights. we know olives was never the best. khabib was the best, and now islam is. islam was in the division when olives had the belt, meaning he was never champ, he never defended it. .its over, go cry
Khabib over GSP is crazy.
amanda nunes above fedor 😂😂???
No order but Ali, Anderson Silva, Jon Jones, Sugar Ray Robinson, Roberto Duran, Tyson, So many options other than this horrible list
Connor ??? Liddell ?? Mighty Mouse ??? Aldo
The greatest fighter is Rocky Balboa
Wasn't DCs first nickname the black fedor?
DANIEL * DC * he is LEGEND and GREAT FIGHTER
Still dreaming from that jon jones knock out.
Bones and canelo should be on that list
Fedor?
Btw it's DJ, GSP, JJ, Silva, 5th who ever and not in any order
aldo 5th
@@nunyabizwacks6711 agreed I mean top 5 is almost impossible Hendo, Bisping, BJ Penn, so many bloody legends D Cruz
TYSON?!?!?!?!
Amanda really doesn’t have much competition - she needs to be tested more before making that list
And yet still has losses
H. Fool yourself. You're fingers go BLUNT but you can't bring Amanda. Amanda she is the GREATEST. *. GOAT * and AMAZING. She only one STUTUS GOAT
Dukestboy96. Amanda she is the GREATEST. *. GOAT. * and AMAZING. She only one STUTUS GOAT.
DC is 100 percent CORRECT
Dc has no idea what he's talking about... just like when he announces fights