Can I Survive as a Tribe on Very Hard? [EU4]

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  • @BabyCal
    @BabyCal ปีที่แล้ว +186

    21:41 “and all of a sudden you just get killed by the Europeans”
    biblically accurate EU4

  • @jameslevy9964
    @jameslevy9964 ปีที่แล้ว +137

    Ngl this video has wanted me to at least try the natives. Bought the dlc never to actually try them out

    • @dakapo8985
      @dakapo8985 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yupp same here. Should at least have 1 run as a NA native right?

    • @inputlag2975
      @inputlag2975 ปีที่แล้ว

      Which dlc ?

    • @jameslevy9964
      @jameslevy9964 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@inputlag2975 Leviathan

    • @inputlag2975
      @inputlag2975 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jameslevy9964 aight thx 👍🏽

  • @BabyCal
    @BabyCal ปีที่แล้ว +56

    18:13 most relaxed EU4 native war

  • @FatheredPuma81
    @FatheredPuma81 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Wow... I can't say I've seen someone try and do an ultra relaxed Very Hard game as a native... Unsurprisingly turned out exactly as you'd expect.

    • @Quarbit
      @Quarbit  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Out of curiosity, what would be your strategy?

    • @FatheredPuma81
      @FatheredPuma81 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Quarbit Annex way more land from the natives and instantly annex all colonial nations as soon as they spawn?
      Probably also stock pile mil points before reforming instead of wasting them on an idea group. 4-5 mil techs>mil idea group.
      Your ending wouldn't have even been a loss if you annexed their colonial nations. Just annex your land back when they spawn another weak colonial nation.

    • @brendandunphy6706
      @brendandunphy6706 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Quarbitit’s easy but sometimes i will sit for 30 hours and o barely play a few years. just make a federation and invite literally everybody and get all the tribal land u can until the europeans attack one of ur children. u are probably safer when u have the 400k soldiers from ur federation even though u haven’t teched up because u need to get every little last bit in the federation and every tribal land

  • @darkZarchon
    @darkZarchon ปีที่แล้ว +29

    My experience with No Trail of Tears (admittedly not on very hard and before the native rework) was that the best course of action was usually to full-annex newly released colonial nations. That erases all their cores, and their (former) overlords *tend* not to want you dead until they have some land nearby, at which point placating them becomes impossible. Note that they will immediately set about making new colonies in most cases, so this may need to be repeated. Also important to stockpile some mana as well as money before the 'westernization' so you can grab some techs on the cheap with your new institutions.

  • @the-angel-of-light-gardevoir8
    @the-angel-of-light-gardevoir8 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    It’s pretty bad when ENGLAND AND FRANCE CAN AGREE ON SOMETHING….

  • @grandaltis
    @grandaltis ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Active Post-Leviathan Native Player here - for the most fun play as one of the Muskogean culture tribes (Creek preferably since they can form the Creek nation which is generally better than a standard unified federation) Satapo and Etowah are the most enjoyable imo
    Get unified warbands as soon as possible and chain war with your massive federation (since Muskogean is a HUGE culture group) up the east coast
    While a good chunk of this stuff is RNG dependent i've had some runs where I own more than half of the U.S before the colonizers arrive. Stuff can snowball like crazy if you know what you're doing

  • @yumlo7535
    @yumlo7535 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    An AI fed leader can't actually integrate human players. I think the federation would just be disbanded?

    • @Quarbit
      @Quarbit  ปีที่แล้ว +21

      the more you know

    • @BabyCal
      @BabyCal ปีที่แล้ว +2

      from what I recall the AI still forms the federation and takes all of the land (i.e., all of your tribal land that isn’t settled is taken by them)

  • @adelinefizzix2987
    @adelinefizzix2987 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Keep in mind that if you ever decide to try this nation or another native again, the 'Sunset Invasion' mission now gives you the High American tech group

    • @sizanogreen9900
      @sizanogreen9900 ปีที่แล้ว

      wait. I thought that was just an aztec thing... gotta admit I never paid much attention to the american tribal nations xD

  • @dracolex
    @dracolex ปีที่แล้ว +9

    As someone with 17k hours I would never subject myself to such torment. This is foolishness

    • @Quarbit
      @Quarbit  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      you must be new to the channel, subjecting myself to torment is 100% of the content

    • @dracolex
      @dracolex ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Quarbit Then I shall watch your career with great interest

  • @BeenanPeenan
    @BeenanPeenan ปีที่แล้ว +9

    As a mountain North Carolina man, this video calls to me

  • @TheKlaun9
    @TheKlaun9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is the one game most people have once and then never again

    • @pegasusplay4201
      @pegasusplay4201 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      truth, I was playing Creek and France devoured me even though I formed a gigantic federation and unified 😂😂😂

  • @dark_fire_ice
    @dark_fire_ice ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Epidemics should be a very common occurrence in the game; basically if you dev up too much more the tech/institution the odds of a plague happening, which should lower dev.
    After all, cities couldn't maintain their own population until modern sanitation practices were developed, in the Victorian Age

  • @mrbisshie
    @mrbisshie ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Should have sold that province to France, to cause tension between England and France!

  • @manooxi327
    @manooxi327 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Saw the ending coming from the start 🤣

  • @thatponybro6940
    @thatponybro6940 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    sometimes you just gotta join the warband and take it to the white man

  • @sahilhossain8204
    @sahilhossain8204 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lore of Playing This Country on Very Hard is Almost IMPOSSIBLE [EU4] momentum 100

  • @94sjolander
    @94sjolander ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Australia-Hungary is the most boring achievement with no doubt. You basically sit doing nothing for over a hundred years waiting to being able to leave Australia and then hopping your way over to Europe where youll most likely either fight an op Ottomans or op Austria.

  • @KingoftheWelsh
    @KingoftheWelsh ปีที่แล้ว

    Good effort and good vid. Maybe taking the 13 colony land could've fended off UK but France was getting you either way

  • @andrewgreenwood9068
    @andrewgreenwood9068 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well at least there is still some challenge left in the game.

  • @delphidelion
    @delphidelion ปีที่แล้ว

    You can drop tribal dev when they all get to 0.5, so you can make sure to maximize your tribal dev growth. It will still take the full point, so tribal dev will show as -0.5, but the soft cap (which is stupidly low) becomes a non issue and you can maximize TD growth speed.

  • @alejandronieto4212
    @alejandronieto4212 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ive been thinking on running natives for a while now, but it looks so different from any other gameplay in EU4 its kind of daunting to me.
    Any advice on how to do things (in general, I might start up with Iroquois or some other achievement related tribe)

    • @jacobfreeland6881
      @jacobfreeland6881 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would start by playing a Mesoamerican nation, that will get used to mechanics like reforming and native tech without plunging all the way into tribal land on your first run-through. Plus Mesoamerica is a super interesting region.

  • @Victorianus-
    @Victorianus- ปีที่แล้ว

    Someday i played as the Mohicans in normal (No cheats), i was so underdeveloped y technology that i needed like 13k soldiers to kill 5k european soldiers, i survived till 1750 then i stopped playing, it was so nasty that i could say that i am not playing in America again

  • @romanmeneghinister1584
    @romanmeneghinister1584 ปีที่แล้ว

    You always gotta dec on the European colonies, the overlord will always dec if they have colonies in the region

  • @GettingMyLifeTogether2024
    @GettingMyLifeTogether2024 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The hardest part of it is to get all institutions

    • @toxic8769
      @toxic8769 ปีที่แล้ว

      and catch up with technology

  • @fuerteva6977
    @fuerteva6977 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Video 2 of asking for very hard on xorme ai dynamic. Good luck 👍

  • @hoyinching9313
    @hoyinching9313 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is pretty tough as Natives. Luckily in my game, Portugal colonize Florida. I quickly annex the colonies for ending disaster

  • @josephlaspisa7120
    @josephlaspisa7120 ปีที่แล้ว

    I raise you Victorian Three as the most boring achievement

  • @Gh0st652
    @Gh0st652 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There should be an achievement called Serf's Up where you have to fully state Hawai'i as Dithmarschen

  • @Leo.V
    @Leo.V ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Repelling Europeans as the incas or aztec/mayans are not that hard since sure with a big negative modifier for development you can spawn institutions without needing to reform, however NA natives are a different breed by not being able to do it until you actually reform from a european nation, i never got into them mostly due ro rhis reason but also since wandering teibes ain't my type

    • @Pykerivous
      @Pykerivous ปีที่แล้ว +2

      as a NA nation you can reform actually fairly easy using a few tricks, one being rushing mil 6 and all methods of increasing your reform progress (including one in the federations)
      and reforming into a horde, which is the only gov reform which doesnt require feudalism embraced to reform into.
      which means you become a horde and no longer are considered a tribe, automatically colonize all of your tribal land and give every NA nation a "push back the colonizers" CB (which they will never use)
      then you can immediately reform into a republic if you wish to make the most out of the totemist religion.
      this unfortunately will take time but you can effectively be nearly on even footing with the europeans when they start showing up, then its being predatory on their colonies once they form. (with the federation you'll use one of the reforms within to make it so all members join you in offensive wars so you can go around and swat everyone and keep on moving for more and more tribal land. so once you become horde you have a massive amount of land and possibly tribes contained so europeans cant get them)

  • @spyrospycrab1815
    @spyrospycrab1815 ปีที่แล้ว

    It took me 2 weeks to do this achievement. It was very boring

  • @ohNojames
    @ohNojames ปีที่แล้ว

    I think you picked the only tribe with unique missions but I’m not totally sure. I’d be happy I reformed into monarchy, rather than a republic.

    • @Pykerivous
      @Pykerivous ปีที่แล้ว

      other tribes have unique missions tho its few, I.E theres 2 near the great lakes that form into the Huron Confederation (unique) & another one that I cant spell the name of.

  • @VladislavKobzarev
    @VladislavKobzarev ปีที่แล้ว

    Playing natives is so boring I even fell asleep watching this video

  • @oltizeqa
    @oltizeqa ปีที่แล้ว

    I sent you my disaster save to your email, please see if you can help! 🫵😔