Citroen SpaceTourer (Hyphen) vs Peugeot Traveller vs Toyota Proace Verso REVIEW comparison premiere
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- The vehicle will be available in three versions: 4,60 m (XS), 4,95 (M), 5,30 (XL)
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Always excellent, Autogefuel! Interesting how basically the same van targets 3 different segments/lifestyles.
Great review - keep going in this spirit.
Thomas! As always great review. Thanx a lot!
Thank you for this video ! Well presented and it makes it clear for new buyers.
Like the square huge opening in the hatch. Make it super easy to load cargo, equipment and plywood panels. Those trays for the second row seats look great. Someone spent the time to make them blend in and don't look cheap (Herr Müller, are you watching??).
You should have done a surprise review on that peugeot 2008 dakar as well. XD That would have been amazing!
J'adore ce van . Visitez l'europe là-dedans doit être géniale.
Mr./ +autogefuhl , you didn't show us the room in the back, what's the adjustment with a person on the seats
This was a good review. It would have been great if you could have shown how much room there is in the back row. Thanks
+Stuart Whipkey thanks stuart!
Thank you for doing this, I have been looking for a decent review of these and couldn't find any until now! The Citroen offers the best value and is my choice, also looks the best of the bunch, I like to think of these a bit like Apple when they came out with their first generation of the iPhone - totally reshaped the market, I guess time will tell..
I Love the two PSA siblings (Peugeot Traveller and Citroën Spacetourer) and the different looks, The Twin Chevrons have a friendly front end whilst the Prancing Lions look more sporty.
The one funny bit that I like is when Citroën showgirl Stephanie said "Look behind" when presenter Thomas struggles to find the seat harness.
+Kamel Safar Zitoun I think I didnt find it because in the T6, the seat belts are mounted inwards
***** Thanks for the comment
Can you put the middle row of seats in facing backwards?
These short versions (4.60m) do not offer a lot of space on 2nd and 3rd rows. It's always going to be a compromise if you have big family. Same about cargo area: impossible to carry passengers and their luggage at the same time. So I would vote for M version, as XL doesn't look proportional.
I noticed very big advantage - ISOFIX system is available for every seat on back rows. It is actually possible to attach 3 child seats in one row.
The concept is perfect..
As a mum of 3 I love my Ford Grand Tourneo Connect. This Citroen looks good too.
It'd be interesting to see a comparison between the Citroen spacetourer and grand picasso.
prefer Peugeot
No. Toyota legendary motor
Great work,
you really are my No.1 resource on new cars ;) You mention
that you can have the non-Hyphen version of the Spacetoruer in 4x4. Is this
official? Do you have any more information on Man. or Aut. transmission and engines for a standard 4x4 Spacetourer.
+martin gulsrud Thanks Martin! Yes thats official, there will be one 4x4 version. Dont have detailed infos yet though
schönes ding. das mit dem Glasdach hatte der Mitsubishi L300 in der Luxusversion schon vor über zwanzig Jahren! :)
Is it possible to recline the passenger seats? thanks
any idea on launch date? (Spain?) and/or price???
Well designed good cars.Two armrest very important in the front seats.Keep it reasonable simple Citroen.These cars should be reliable and safe on the road to carry children in them or adult passengers.
imagine the Citroën with a VW badge O_o
Looks like what a VW van SHOULD look like ... Awesome.
+PvanP I thought the same, looks like a fucking vw
Would look much better if it had some additional stamped-character lines down the side to break-up the slab-sided appearance..............with the addition of (unique/specific)body-side molding for each brand.
11:12... that froleïn-ish laugh made me smile :)
does Stephanie come with the car?
Interesting, watching this video 7 years later I see that the „whole new“ Multivan T7 is already 6 years late from release on.
I thought the fast interchangable System was a great idea, the DSG knob the panoramic roof, all this is already integrated in the peugeot. Also the „premium“ feel of the mentioned T6 compared to these cock pits is arguable.
In result, I guess (I‘m from germany too) VW is really living from it‘s name and reputation than from it‘s innovations. But that‘s good, because when everyone is fighting about getting the best 2nd hand Multivans I can safe me some money by getting one of these. Thanks for that insights
Deze wagen schaf ik mij zeker aan.
Very good presentation. What engines do they have? I don't think they have Toyota engines
Thank you for this report. Finally some real info from geneva about them! Really looking forward to pricing, tech specs (Anhängelast) and availability information from the 3 manufacturers. One thing that is still unclear to me, how the 4WD variation works and affects specs (Anhängelast again etc). Can I order it as 4WD and get it delivered that way, or do I have to do deal with it on my own after the purchase with Dangel (warranty and maintainance issues etc)?
+Lars Weinand so far as I understood it, you can order it directly, but they are kinda specially treating it as it doesnt roll of the normal line, there is a 3rd party supplier doing that AWD stuff.
+Autogefühl Thanks again :) That makes it really a considerable (and probably cheaper) alternative to a T5/T6/V for us - 2 kids, 2 dogs and must be able to pull a horse trailer through the mudd :)
+Lars Weinand yes indeed thats what I am thinking as well!
btw, the Spacetourer is now listed on citroen.ch for starting at 44.700 CHF. Also available in the configurator. But I can't find the AWD option there anywhere: www.citroen.ch/de/neue-fahrzeuge/citroen/spacetourer.html
Hi. Nice review as i'm looking for a new familyvan to go out for some rides with my 5 kids. You talk about the price being - of course - lower than for the T6, but i can't find real information about how high it will be, when it is released. Do you have some information about this?
+hipahipa159 thanks! best is to check the manufacturer website of your home market at a given time for that
+Autogefühl Danke für die Antwort. Mit einer ungefähren Preisinfo wäre es zumindest leichter den Sommer mit unserem ollen Vivaro zu überstehen.. aber da müssen wir wohl noch etwas warten. Aber zumindest für mich ist diese Reihe echt mal eine VW-Alternative... Gruß
Will it be available in the UK ??
Proace in White looks best IMO.Also the front looks totally different from the Citroen, don't know what you were looking at.
Thomas, Stephanie was most distracting...what kind of vehicle was it again??? Bellissima!
+Mario Dalla Riva =)
+Mario Dalla Riva This poor guy didn't know how to fasten his seat belt !
This car would have been perfect with an electric power train. Lots of space under the floor for a 60kWh battery. I would buy it for sure.
Out now!!
IT looks very similar to the 2007 hyundai H1 GRAND STAREX 's gas tank door, fender.
No information about engine, performance and economy. do these cars share same engine or just the chassis?
all of them have the same engine done by the PSA group, on my citroen you can see all 3 logos lol.
They all share the same engine/s
1.5 hdi 100 and 120 or a 2.0 hdi 120 140 and 160 if I remember correctly. All PSA engines
@@crownenterprisesperu is it a realiable engine??? Maybe Toyota should made their own engine and drive train. Which out of these 3 car makes, originally design the body shape for this model van which is actually very nice
@@magicheats8291 it is a very good engine.. very good at fuel efficiency
What motorization is possoble?
Thank you so much !!!! yeah ! I like the peuget traveller a dark blue with rubber floors and pano roof, automatic is the way to go I'd go for the 9 seater...danke Thomas
When you can get a test drive please let me (us) know...
+Trevor Standefer that one was specially for you! Ofc I ll try to get a test drive asap as usual
What type engine they are sharing how many type of engine they are available plus who is providing the engines thanks.
+Azhar „ForceFeed 999“ Zahra Diesels with 95, 115, 150 or 180 hp ... should be all PSA afaik
All the three cars look really nice, but all I hate this new trend from all the manufacturers to design all the cars without a small plastic to protect the panels from small dents and scratches.
tiene el mismo tamaño que un Nissan Nv200 o eso parece no? Daba la sensacion de ser tipo California aun asi me gusta
Great
Dommage que Citroën n'est pas retenu l’intérieur du Cactus pour plus d'originalité et de prix plus bas !
Ich finde persönlich den Citroën am besten er hat sehr viel stil, Citroën war immer am interessantesten.
ich konnt mit Peugeot noch nie was anfangen aber das Design gefällt mir ausgesprochen gut! Das Citroen Design find ich etwas "lieb und brav" und nicht so "massiv" wie das von Peugeot.
Genau deswegen haben alle drei zusammen gearbeitet, alle irgendwie gleich und trotzdem haben alle ihren eigenen Charme, so hat jeder etwas davon.
who's engine is inside??
ein netter Deutscher "Aktzent" :D
*Akzent !!
do you know something about engines? only diesel? I hope in hybrid or erg gas engine
so far diesel
J ai la toyota et pour moi la seule grande différence c'est que je crois encore à la fiabilité légendaire de toyota.
Je pense donc que la toyota est plus fiable.
I really like the Toyota front. the bumper looks strong with abit of SUV look. the Citroen front looks abit plain, maybe because it is in white. are they sharing the same engine as well?
+Yoke Chye Koh I'm pretty sure they do
You have error in description. First shown vehicle is the middle sized version 4.95m..
thanks!
Toyota ProAce it's panel van version of the Alphard
That woman in the Citroën loves Thomas
Que pena que não vem para o Brasil
Assuming the Toyota incarnation comes with the now ubiquitous 5 yr manufacturer's warranty- then that makes that decision easy- worry free ownership and better resale value because of it!
Super...
I tried to get a test drive arranged in My local Evora Peugeot garage in Portugal. The salesman wanted ME to tax and insure the car for a test drive . I will stick with my trusted VW T4 Caravelle. 49mpg 2,5 turbo diesel .JUST SHORT OF 190,000 MILES ON THE CLOCK .
Which lengh are these 3 cars ? 4,60 m or 4,95 m ? It's obviously not the longest version (5,30 m).
+beverridge 4,60 m (XS), 4,95 (M), 5,30 (XL)
+Autogefühl Yeah, thanks a lot for that information. But I meant : which one (among XS, M and XL) is it in your video ? It's not the XL one but I don't know if they''re XS or M.
+beverridge ahh ok i ll ask
+beverridge checked: The shown vehicle is 4,60 m (XS)
привет лунатикам
Only 360p available ?
+Benoît 1080p is there now
I feel quite surprised by the prices PSA+Toyota are launching these cars with. Add a few EUR and you've got a decent Multivan. A minus for me. Especially considering I already have a Peugeot experience.
5&5
where did he find this mic?
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The Roof is not high enough to feel free like a VW Bully
schönes Auto
that showgirl tho;)
+imsupapro she was very nice and helpful !
+Autogefühl I bet she was...
Und wenn dein satz die antwort auf meine frage sein sollte.Für mich war das nicht so klar zu erkenn da es autos wie mercedes v klasse giebt bei denen sich der sitz nun um ein paar Zentimeter verschieben lässt😉
Ich schau noch mal genau bei unserem driving review im Herbst!
Danke.wäre nett da es bei mir ein kaufargument ist.freu mich drauf
Tojote su najbolja auta na svijetu..
citroen its the best and the peugeot becuese they are made in same factory
A 6 anos depois nem a metade disso chegou ao mercado
Thomas are nissan going to compete in the market with large mpv's do you know?
+ManX72 hey m8, see here for a hint: th-cam.com/video/36XzU4cmGAs/w-d-xo.html
Personally, I would go for the Citroen because they made the DS which is one of my favourite cars. The japanese style nowdays is not quite for me. Also, this kind of vehicle, I think needs to look more friendly and less sporty.
LOL Random people jumping in and out the car
beim Citroen kann man die vorderen Kopfstützen verstellen. beim Peugeot leider nicht. Das ist für mich bei 186cm Körpergröße ein großer Minuspunkt.
+Kai P interessant! Werde
Ich bei unserem fahr-review drauf achten
Citroen wins hands down looks wise
Hallo, bei mir bleibt der Eindruck hängen, dass Peugeot einen guten europäischen Van herausgebracht hat, auf den dann bisweilen auch ein Toyota oder Citroen Logo geheftet wird. Damit stehen dann weitere Vertriebsmöglichkeiten und Serviceniederlassungen zur Verfügung. Die Form und Farbunterschiede sind für mich persönlich überhaupt nicht entscheidungsrelevant. Mit Toyota assoziiere ich vor allen Dinge Begriffe wie Zuverlässigkeit, Haltbarkeit, Service- und Kundenfreundlichkeit und Wirtschaftlichkeit, auch wenn die Fahrzeuge in der Anschaffung und bei den Ersatzteilen in der Regel etwas " teurer" sind, so mein persönlicher Eindruck. Peugeot traue ich vor allem zu, sparsame und robuste Dieselmotore bauen zu können. Leider beleuchtet der Beitrag weniger die technischen Merkmale.
New multimedia system in comparision to the Peugeot 308 ?
Is this one from Toyota ? or is it the next generation of PSA :b
+Radioaktivify PSA
It really is nice , but the ground clearance is low, load is slightly lower , but when compared to the Kia Grand Carnival Limited this is more spacious and higher, not only clearing land but inside, observe when the presenter feel your head is near the ceiling , the Kia Grand Carnival is more spacious, the Van is designed for family long trips and is utilized optimally space , passengers are very comfortable in Europe unfortunately not sold , see the following address www.kia.cl
Realmente es bonita, pero en el despeje del suelo es baja, con carga se hace un poco más baja, pero al compararla con la Kia Gran Carnival Limited esta es más espaciosa y más alta, no solamente de despeje de suelo sino en su interior, observen cuando el presentador se sienta su cabeza queda cercana al techo, la Kia Gran Carnival es mas espaciosa, la van esta diseñada para viajes largos y familiares, se aprovecha bien los espacios, los pasajeros van muy cómodos, en Europa desgraciadamente no se vende, vean la siguiente dirección www.kia.cl
ich hab mir den Toyota gekauft ;)
Is like European Alphard elgrand size of car!
toyota is the best.......japan nation are the best ever on this earth.......
It's the same van.
All these car are the same car with different logos and different price.
Give it a 4WD system and a petrol engine with a manual 6 speed and i buy it.
He's German right?
Ja
i wont a bmw i8
Van
Why Peugeot-Citroen don't sell their cars in USA ?
+Caio Caldas they return soon in usa .www.motortrend.com/news/psa-peugeot-citroen-again-considers-ds-brand-for-u-s-market/
DS cars sucks.
Design : 1. Citroën 2. Peugeot 3. Toyota
Toyota légendaire moteur, les autres au garage.
Ich finde die "Schnauze" vom Toyota gut. Außerdem gibt es bei Toyota auch 3 Jahre Garantie, bei PSA selbst nur 2.... Aber ich denke, dass Toyota hier sehr viel mitgebracht hat und entsprechend viel Einfluss hatte. Ich kenne weder Peugeot noch Citroen, aber ich hoffe, dass sich diese Autos im Markt behaupten.
BTW: eine deutsche Version wäre dennoch sehr wünschenswert. :)
Toyota alphard and
Toyota noah are real toyota. This model is just lego from other brands. Looks like toyota doesnt car europe customers anymore.
ich habs nie verstanden warum du die videos in englisch machst, sehr anstrengend zu hören mit dem deutschen akzent
Leute aus aller Welt schauen zu. Der deutsche Akzent ist wohl ein rein deutsches Problem.
Autogefühl Die Videoquali , Sound und Du selbst bist sehr sicher und sehr sympatisch. Habt ihr einen deutschen Kanal getestet? ich glaube Du hättest mehr views und abonennten mit einem deutschen kanal.
International hat man eine viel größere Reichweite, für einen deutschen Kanal will kein Werbekunde bezahlen. Die Werbe-Einblendungen für den deutschen Markt sind quasi irrelevant.
Peter Neumann, niemand zwingt dich zu schauen......immer diese Nörgler. Das Englisch Niveau ist auf diesem Kanal ist eher überdurchschnittlich.
VW Multivan is the best...
Toyota going with the 2 worse manufacturer on the planet... what a pity... the image of Toyota is going down to me... reliability is the best thing in my mind and planned obsolescence is the worse thing that USA and Europe have the best to give... Toyota is going straight to that new trend ?
Mit den Deutschen sollte man besser nicht zusammen arbeiten. Entweder du bekommst einen Schrottmotor von BMW, siehe THP oder du du bekommst einen Diesel mit Schummelsoftware, siehe VAG, oder du bekommst rostige Karosserien, siehe Mercedes.
Obviously you do not know that toyota has built its MOST EVER reliable car in conjunction with the Peugeot Citroen group
Why pay a designer ? ... When you can just copy ..
Volkswagen transporter !!
hehe ...
This is a shame for Citroen ! who had a dominant dizain before ...
3 fake cars