Removing All Air From My Aquariums: Creating a Noiseless Fishroom
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 พ.ค. 2024
- I’m going to attempt to not only turn off but fully remove all air stones and pumps from all of my aquariums. Why would I do this you might ask?
Well that answer is because it has been my goal for a few years now. After finding @LRBaquatics and seeing his nature first approach to his tanks. For them to not only survive but thrive with no filters and air. So my goal is to try to blend the method of LRB along with everything I have learned from @FatherFish and create an ecosystem that not only has deep dirted substrate and a food web but no filters and no air so that everything within the aquariums depend on each other almost as if it were truly in nature.
Will I succeed??? Have to watch to find out!!
Also I will link the LRB and Father Fish TH-cam channels just incase your not subscribed to them already and if your not subscribed to me please consider doing so and join me in thinking outside the box and stepping back into nature🍃🍂☘️
#fish #fishroom #dirtedtank #nofilter #experiment
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Glad to see someone with some cahones. Thanks for the shout out and sharing your experience with hobbyist. They all think Im crazy lol.
Thank you😁, Honestly you were the first TH-camr that went no filter no air with the size of fish house you had , that I seen and instantly intrigued me in the possibilities .
I think people may think it’s crazy because it’s not the norm and something that was drilled into us that you’re not supposed to do. Some may think it’s crazy but that’s what inspires me to want to try it. It’s the same with Father Fish, both of you in my opinion are the pioneers of a natural, nature based fish keeping.
So your not crazy, your helping open peoples minds to the possibilities in this hobby, including mine😁
Thanks for watching it’s greatly appreciated 😁👍
I’m loving coming along with you on this journey!
Thank you! Thank you for watching 😁👍
cool experiment, im glad its working out for you! keep us posted with updates
Thank you very much! It’s definitely going great and love the quiet fish room. Will definitely keep everyone updated and thank you for watching 😁👍
Following with interest. My best tank as far as plant growth goes is a tank i have outside so no light, no heater, no filter, no air, no water changes (tops off when it rains). Full nature, gotta love it.
Full nature is the best way to go for sure. This has definitely been an eye opening experience and so far everything is doing great. Thanks for watching 😁👍
Good luck Patty
you know me I love a experiment 👍👍
Thanks Mal, it really has been cool not hearing a noise except for my puffer splashing and begging for food😂 plus I get to cut out another device that we “need” to make sure our fish don’t die. If you like experiments I’m working on another one with eliminating Cyanobacteria naturally without meds. I think I figured it out. All goes well that will be out next month. Thanks for watching Mal I appreciate you 😁👍
I'm on day two and the fish are loving it without the bubblers. It's crazy, I feel like I've been annoying them for months with screeching hugger air stones.. Anyway, all going well so far, happy Sunday from Ireland 👍
That’s awesome, I think LRB mentioned once he thinks the fish would be happier without the constant humming of an air stone which makes lots of sense. Also theoretically the plants should grow much better too because the air stone will not push all the carbon out of the water column and the plants can consume more. I’m around 6 weeks in and have zero complaints so far. 😁👍
Father Fish recommends water movement on larger systems as i recall for oxygen exchange and heat distribution. You have many smaller tanks so I don’t see how that will be a problem. I have found with flow, string algae was more problematic. Like you i wouldn’t eliminate the air on the 75 gallon. This is another video i will follow closely. i like your scientific approach to everything. it’s probably one of the main reasons i follow you,that and your unpretentious nature. Keep them coming 👍
Thank you very much Ken, I use the wave maker in the 75 mainly for water movement to help prevent Cyanobacteria that has popped up a few times. I have been dealing with that and documenting it and believe I have it beat naturally without using meds but that being said I will definitely continue with the flow in this tank and maybe put it on a timer for sure though. The other tanks have been doing great so far and really think it will continue but only time will tell.
Thank you very much for your support and input it is greatly appreciated 😁👍
Super stoked to see your positive results! We have very similar goals. I want to start my own fish room similar to yours.
Thank you and things are going great! I’ve never been so happy with a project to be honest. Fish and plants are doing great so far 5 weeks in. Thanks for watching 😁👍
This is crazy man, I've been thinking about removing my air stones for the past month. 4 out of my 5 tanks have air, the tank in the kitchen without air(with canister filter) has no hair algae issues. This proves your findings, going to turn them off while closely monitoring the fish👍 happy Saturday!!
That’s awesome, in my tanks which you will see in future videos, that had the hair algae bad it had not grown back at all. It’s actually starting to look like it’s dying back. Now my issue is I have it in my 75 and have the wave maker going in it to help curtail Cyanobacteria. So I’m going to have to experiment in there with the wave maker on a timer I believe. Thanks for watching 😁👍
Great video Detroit 😊
Thank you and thank you for watching 😁👍
I think I'd be too scared to try this myself, but kudos to you for trying it and looks like it's successful so far! Interesting about the hair algae, I would think it would prefer still water 😮. Interesting experiment and great video, hope you have a nice weekend! 🙂👍
Thanks Tara, it was a little nerve racking the first few days, I obviously didn’t want to stress my fish any way but knew after a few days of being ok it was going to work. As far as the hair algae that was the biggest surprise for me with this and still had not grown back so I’m on to something. Thanks for watching and have a great weekend yourself 😁👍
bravo and thank you
Thank you and thank you for watching 😁👍
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I will try it with one aquarium, and we will follow what happens 🙂
@@chaaraapa nice, let me know how it goes for you😁
I got to do the same with my 2 dirted tanks, thanks for sharing this
It’s definitely a cool experience for sure😁👍
Very cool 😎, Ya takin "the big leap"!
Thanks Tommy, it definitely is interesting now, the only thing I hear in my fishroom now is my puffer splashing the surface of the water begging for food😂
Father fish have no method, that is just the Diana Wahstad method without any data attached to it. He is a preacher, not a biologist. Looking forward for updates on this with some data involved. Great video as always. I hope no live stock will be hurt. 😀👍
There is a lot of hate towards Father Fish and to be honest I truly don’t get it. What he does is yes in my opinion a variation of Walstad and yes he likes to preach and states he is not a scientist and I can’t speak for anyone else nor would I but I have had a lot of success with it so far. To be fair though I don’t follow it completely to the tee but everyone has a right to their own opinion and I respect yours because I can tell from our comment conversations you are very science oriented and I find that helpful in these conversations.
As far as updates so far everything is doing great in my fish room 6 weeks in but if you want to see more check out LRB Aquatics, he has been doing this on a large scale for some years now with great success.
Thank you Magnus for your opinion because I do appreciate it and thanks for watching 😁👍
@@pattys_aquatics I do not have any hate towards father fish whatsoever. I do watch a few vids now and then. I am completely sure that no filter, no airation can be done. Actually I have a no filter, bare bottom tank running great. Accodring to me many fish is suffering and dieing to the let it go approach. Yes you can run an aquarium without filter and airation. But one really need to understand what is going on in the tank and take the correct measures if something goes wrong. The do nothing "understand nothing" approach is just wasting a lot of fish lifes and make potential hobbyists turn away from the hobby. I do think your experiment will succeed. All your tanks looks like they are ready. As said before, I am looking forward for updates preferably with data.😀👍
@@greenmachinesweden I meant in general towards him not specifically from you.
No filter bare bottom tank?? Very cool!
I most definitely will keep everyone updated . 😁👍
Maybe I will try it too😊
It’s definitely an interesting experience! Nerve racking at first because I didn’t want to cause harm to my fish but after a few days I knew all would be well. Thank you for watching 😁👍
As soon as i get my AC unit for my garage I'll be giving this a try. I already have about 5 tanks running without mechanical filtration.
Very cool Jorge, there is just something so relaxing hearing nothing anymore and that I can cut more “crutches “ of what we are supposed to be using to not kill our fish out of the equation. Thanks for watching 😁👍
I'm really interested in the updates on this. When I was running HOBs I got blackbeard algae. Switched to a sponge filter and it went away. I will probably get rid of the sponge filter when my plants have gotten bigger because I want that clear water and quiet too.
It definitely is different not hearing anything making noise any longer that’s for sure. I definitely will give updates and so far everything is doing great. Thanks for watching 😁👍
Interested in how this works out. I also am inspired by both FF and LRB. But have been nervous about stopping the air flow. Considering dialing it down on some lightly stocked tanks.
So far everything has been going great. Honestly if you’re interested in it but nervous about stopping it completely I highly recommend putting your air pump on a timer like I mentioned in the video. I had mine so the air would go on 3 hours after the lights went out and went off about an hour after lights came on and that worked great as well. Thanks for watching 😁👍
Heck I still use candles to light My aquariums and fires under neath to heat them, u don't get any simpler than that.....I mean....come on patty, try that!
Man Jesse I’m going to try that. I just have to pipe out the smoke from the fire out of my basement then I’m good to go. 😂 Thanks for watching buddy😁👍
Interesting, and you are braver than me, though your fish stocking is quite low. Glad the night time only aeration experiment proved successful. Aeration/surface agitation in the hours before the lights come on is however, often necessary especially if fish stocking is high, or CO2 injection is used. With CO2 injection during lights on, I must have at least one filter outlet directed at the surface of the water or I get distressed fish as oxygen levels fall against a backdrop of CO2 at around 15 ppm.
Easy check, look for gasping at the surface before lights on, if fish gasp you need some surface agitation or some air stones.
Excessive oxygen bonds with trace elements and makes them less accessible to plants, though Iron of course carries oxygen in the blood, this is not simple chemistry. Plants should benefit from the removal of air stones because trace elements should be more accessible (but I do not claim to fully understand the chemistry involved), and the fibrous elements of higher plants mean they require more carbon than algae, so higher CO2 levels with no aeration should benefit plants and they should thus reduce algae via competition for trace elements and light.
It would have been useful to test CO2 levels when air stones were on 24 hours a day, when on for darkness only and now with no air stones. Tanks often settle better and are clearer in terms of mulm being in suspension with no aeration. A muddy pool clears via settlement. Oxygen levels are hard to measure but generally less than 4 ppm causes problems, though trout need higher levels around 6 ppm hence they live in colder fast flowing waters than say carp.
Anyway Patty all good experimental stuff. Good luck.
Always dropping the knowledge there William, love it. 😁
Definitely hoping this will make the plants flourish and the tanks with algae disappear.
That definitely would have been interesting checking the O2 levels before and after. But that would have entailed me buying something to do that.
This definitely is not for everyone and every set up or style but think my style could thrive on this.
Thanks for your help and insight on this I truly appreciate your help and is exactly why i started this channel, to help not only other hobbyists but myself as well. Thanks for watching 😁👍
Excellent work Patty, I too am a fan of LRBs style and would love to remove my air but have been nervous to do it. I believe after watching this I have faith I will be successful! Do you have any tips from your experience from removing yours? Thanks for sharing
Thank you very much Paul, honestly you can be successful at it only tips I would have is to just watch and observe your tank(s) and look for signs of oxygen deprivation from your fish. If you’re not fully comfortable removing it completely you could try putting your pumps on timers like I stated in the video . That in my opinion is very useful as well. Thank you for watching and hope that helps😁👍
I hope this works out for you and the next video is not a teary eyed version of you stating that everything died :p I hope to have a very low maintenance tank as well once i get it stocked and these plants grow.
The only tears I will have from this experience is Not doing it sooner. I’m 5 weeks in and have seen absolutely nothing negative. I love it.
Once that tank of yours fills in with plants you will notice a big difference as well, the plants will eat loads of nitrogen and help the tank flourish. Thanks for watching Gabriel 😁👍
@@pattys_aquatics i am looking foward to it.
As for 🦇💩 🤪.. we all are to be in this Hobby..but some of us take it to a new level 🤣😂
That is a smart idea only running the air at night.
I like the idea of wave makers
I will be intetersted how everything is still going after two or three months. Three weeks is amazing!!!!!
You certainly don't have to worry if the power goes off for a day
So have you considered just heating the room??
Very true Chris 😂, honestly I had thought of air pumps on timers a couple years ago and asked the question on an actual good forum page and got nothing but hate. Then a viewer of mine , William, who commented on this video earlier gave me the insight of when the best time to do it was. Honestly if someone doesn’t want to cut the cord entirely from air things the way to do it. Still quiet during the day and pumps in not going when the lights are out.
I’m very happy with how it’s going so far and yes that’s another huge benefit of the power goes out.
My fish room isn’t a closed room. It’s part of my open basement but the furnace and water heater is right by it. Water temps in the winter get down to around 60-62 with no heater which is survivable for most of my species but the puffer wouldn’t like it and I don’t know if all my plants would either. I was trying to go more non heater fish( rainbow shiner, white clouds ,rice fish) for that fact as well.
Thanks for watching Chris, I appreciate you buddy😁👍
@@pattys_aquatics I moved most of my tanks to the room I could close off as my temps are similar to yours
I was just able to turn my heater down a bit today.
Then again hang on back filters really heat up aquariums
Thanks again pal
What sort of heaters and lights do you have? Look like a mix different type of lighting. Thanks
I have mix of different brand heaters but lighting it’s all led shop lights except for a couple tanks. The shop lights are cheap and easy( have a video on it) and the other lights are fluval plant light on Puffer tank, Hygger 24/7 planted tank light on another and then a cheap light I got off Amazon on my 10 gallon. Thanks for watching 😁👍
@@pattys_aquatics i tried looking for these lights I don’t live close to a menard but the 4ft long ones are showing around 12$ plus shipping around 10$ and still cheaper than most of the Chinese led on Amazon.
@@flare1185 they definitely are cheap and get a lot of bang for your buck. I’m not sure where you live but you can find this type of light at any Home or hardware store.
Great work mate! I have always wanted to try this, but I'm worried that in summer the water may become too hot and oxygen depleted. We can go for a week or two over 40c some years.
Thanks Gil, I’m definitely loving it but if you can’t control the climate around the tanks that definitely could be an issue with that heat. Thanks for watching 😁👍
i went over to lrb and tried to understand this thing "no air"
did not really get it except for 2 words -mother nature-
care giving me your personal prespective on this???
i mean i don't get the point of having no air artificially
Basically in my perspective is to make my aquariums closer to nature. There are no air stones and air pumps in nature, plants make the oxygen and the point is to make the tank as natural as if it were in the wild. Plus the fish don’t have the stress of an air stone constantly making bubbles and having a vibration from the pump and it makes the fish room absolutely quiet. Hope that helps 😁👍
@@pattys_aquatics thanks
its possible.. I have 30tank of it..
That’s great to hear! I absolutely love the possibilities with this to say the least. Thanks for watching 😁👍
I'm sorry to say this, but one of your tanks is "frozen" (Badunts)
If you mean from the Frozen decorations in my 10 gallon, 😂 yes that’s a tank I share with my 7 year old daughter. She wanted to put some decorations in it and the Betta.
@@pattys_aquatics I will not show your tank to my daughter of 5y old, she will probably ask me to have Elsa inside our tank. I already had to fetch a pink guppy for her hehe
@@DarkyXNicolas 😂