Italy didn't want the Balkan nations to be strong enough to challenge their future authority in the area and decided not to help them. Typical pre 1945 Italian sleaziness!
@@askatasunera_ and they could have taken advantage of the situation of a new war for the Ottoman empire and gain even more stuff from them! But no! "I want to rull the Mediterranean sea like the Romans did 1500 years ago and no Balkan nation should be strong enough to challenge me!!!!!!!!"
@@TeutonicEmperor1198 You are acting as if the british or the french or the germans wouldn't have done the same, in fact the Austro-Hungarian empire had a nearly identical policy for the balkans
“One day the great European war will come out of some damned foolish thing in the Balkans” -Otto Von Bismarck He genuinely hit the nail on the head, the dude was ahead of his time
Tbf everybody knew that. The exact scenario that happened in 1914 (Serbia causing troubles over Bosnia, Austria attacking Serbia, Russia joining, Germany joining and France joining) was already being discussed several years prior to the events as a hypothetical by the diplomats of the respective countries.
Considering Serbia and Greece planned occupying Macedonia thus forming a secret anti-Bulgarian pact inviting even the Ottoman Empire, it kind of was the main character.
There is a direct continuity between the Italian invasion of Libya (which the Great powers did nothing to oppose, signaling to the Balkan states that now was the time to attack), the Balkan Wars, and ww1: Italy started ww1
@@kylezdancewicz7346he is mostly joking but you could kinda say that. Italy invaded the ottoman elayet of lybia and showed how relative easily you could take land from the weakend ottomans so the balkans wars started shortly after, which you could say a few years later led to WW1 since the assassination that started it was motivated by a bunch of balkan ethnic shenanigans
Albanian Revolt of 1910 lose vs Ottoman Empire. Rebels were supported by the Kingdom of Serbia. Italy thinks Ottomans are weak. 1911 Italy wanted Libya, declared on Ottoman who owned it. Italy easily took coastal cities in Libya, left the wild Senussi tribesman to the interior, waited for Ottoman Turks to quit, but they don't! Step 2 Italy takes the Rhode island fortress. Wait for Ottoman to quit, they don't, but gather most troops near the Rhode coast in Asia Minor expecting invasion. 1912 Italy then tell relative Montenegro to take opportunity to war with Turks gone, they do - First Balkan war. Then the Ottoman quit with Italy next day. It worked! But Bulgaria, Serbia and Greece has all pile on the near empty Balkans, grabbing most. Turks defeated again and again. Then English with some other powers stupidly says NO, NO, you can not grab all Balkans and they rearrange the peace to keep the Ottomans in Europe holding the straits. (In a few years they will bitterly regret that.) 1913 Bulgaria having to give up the most in the peace, and with Hubris think they can beat everyone, and they do advance on Greeks and Serbs in Second Balkan War, but then Romania jumps in and Turks try to get revenge - and Bulgaria is a very, very sore loser. 1914 Autonomous Republic of Northern Epirus between Albania and Greece has a short life. AND Serb terrorists set in motion WWI in Sarajevo. 1915 The Turks join Central Powers of WWI , and now England & allies regret letting the Ottoman Turks keep the straits, Gallipoli anyone? And then angry Bulgaria back stabs Serbia getting back Macedonia for a couple years.....Oh, and those wild Sennussi tribes fight the allies in N Africa from 1915-1917. WWI ends, Bulgaria loses even more - very unhappy fellow will look for another chance with Hitler in 1941-44....as will Italy who thinks Serbia/Yugoslavia got too much land in the peace. WWII set up.
Actually, no. If you look at official Ottoman documents from the era, you would see that the city is refered as Istanbul by most people and by generals, bureaucrats, Ottoman Royal Family etc. The name “Constantinople” lost it’s widespread use in the early 19. century by commoners.
Not since 1911; Last century of Ottomans was non-stop relentless conflicts. It was almost always Ottomans vs the world. Ottomans had wars and battles with each and every Great Power (including USA) and had countless rebellions from 10+ ethnic groups and political turmoils in this era, yet took a century from being Great Power to final dissolution. In the beginning of 19th century, nearly all of Balkans were Ottoman territory. It was year 1878 Ottomans lost half of Balkan territories and finally bended his knees, in 1913 he collapsed to the ground and in 1918 gave final breath. But even in his deathbed, managed to kick right in the balls to Allied Powers in WW1. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_Ottoman_Empire
@@Whimsical_Inquiror Lol, are you serious? If any great power actually wanted the Ottomans gone, they would've done that. The US? Sure... it wasn't like pirates were the reason... What about the Crimean war?
I love this video! I learned that there were independent states in Crete and Thrace, which I never knew before as a history enthusiast. Very well done! But I have one suggestion, I think the borders should be in black (e.g. the Danube between Bulgaria and Romania) even when there are rivers there, because for people who aren't familiar with the borders of the countries, they might think there are no borders there, and for those who do know the borders it is just distracting. Anyway that's a minor issue, I am a big fan of you and keep up the good work!
That's right. IMORO or Internal Macedonian-Odrin Revolutionary Organisation was the name at the time. After WW1 the Macedonian and Thracian fractions separated and does it became only IMRO.
Fun fact: Siege of Scutari lasted for 7 months and only ended when the commander of Scutari Hasan Rıza Pasha, who had no intention of surrderning, was assassinated by his second in command Essad Pasha (who was an Albanian), who surrendered the city. It was a extremely sensational event in the Ottoman Empire back then.
Ohrid-Dibra Uprising was a common Albanian-Bulgarian uprising, both Albanian kaçaks and Bulgarian IMRO chetas fought together against the Serb rule in those areas, Isa Boletini was the main Albanian commander during the uprising
oh as a Turkish I knew in English we use Bulgarian/Greek Haydut-Hayduk(bandit is Turkish) or Armenian fedayi(fedai actually, means bouncer) but I just learnt Kaçak(means runaway/illegal in Turkish) for Albanians.
🇧🇬♥️🇦🇱. It is a fact that no Serbians participated in the independence movements and battles in Bulgaria. On the other hand Albaniana and Turks even did.
I thought about that but part of the problem is there were a few fronts that had regiments from multiple countries and I didn't want to deal with triple the amount of colors either.
@@SolaroidSF actually they won 1897 Greek-Ottoman war and could reintegrate Greece after 67 years but Great Powers sent ultimatum to porte. If troops enter Athens Russia would decleare war. Also Ottomans won half of the wars in 19th century. Even for English pages(most of them try so hard to put enemy victory or indecisive role as we know) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_Ottoman_Empire#Decline_and_modernization_(1789-1908)
@@tylerellis9097 fyi, greece is a balkan nation. I dont think Eastern Thrace is that important when compared to losing Izmir and the following genocide and expulsion of anatolian greeks.
The Bulgarians seem to be even more overconfident with attacking all their neighbours at once than the Germans. Prussia of the Balkans is a rightfully earned nickname. Only beaten by Paraguay
The intention was to fight only the Serbs and the Greeks. The hubris of the Bulgarian generals was real, but still the Bulgarian army outnumbered the Serbian and Greek armies combined and it had better training and command. However, the war was started by Tsar Ferdinand and not the government. The government tried to pull the armies back, the momentum was lost and the rest is history...
Just a question, why have your more recent videos with the Ottoman Empire featured Turkified city names like Istanbul that weren't renamed until after the Turkish War of Independence?
As a Greek i prefer tl have Northern Epirus instead of western Thrace as you may not see it today but there were a lot more Greeks in northern Epirus in the past!
Και εγώ. Αν η Ελλάδα έπαιρνε την βόρεια Ήπειρο αντί για την δυτική Θράκη, θα ήταν καλύτερα, γιατί τότε η δυτική Θράκη ήταν γεμάτη με Βούλγαρους και Τούρκους, ενώ η βόρεια Ήπειρος είχε Έλληνες με λίγους Αλβανούς.
@KeyUploads2 well maybe the coasts were Greek but that's about it. And there were also Greeks near Edirne and in all of Eastern Thrace. In fact there were a lot more Greeks in Eastern Thrace rather than Western Thrace. Western Thrace was mostly full of Pomaks
@@kylezdancewicz7346 Yes, that is why I said, if Bulgaria had a chance (any). The tzar was just too ambitous and that time for worse. I have seen claims that Serbia knew that Bulgaria will attack given that the agreement that was signed was honoured and just signed a secret deal with Greece to help, so in a way it wasnt that much a surprice attack from Bulgaria, it would have worked for Bulgaria that much.
@@kylezdancewicz7346 What surprise? The Serbo-Greek pact had already occupied Macedonia, surprassed the the Tikvesh uprising massacres thousand of Bulgarians and had their troops in position. By the time the Ottoman empire entered the war the Serbs had been beaten at Kalimanci and King Constantine asked for cease-fire after being surrounded near Sofia.
@@Фниксъ the start of the war was a “unexpected” Bulgarian invasion of Serbian controlled Macedonia. The second this ended they got pushed back. Don’t know why you felt the need to reply to me for some reason
I'm honestly a bit confused by Albania. Wouldn't it have been prudent to mark Tirana on a map? I know it wasn't the Albanian capital at the time, but, considering it's the largest Albanian city, marking it on the map over, I don't know, Vlorë or something, would've been more informative?
@@ЙованДобройевичьit was the most important because it was the only one available, if they declared independence in shkoder or ioannina the great powers and greece/serbia would annex albania anyways
Balkan wars were a complete success for us in Serbia. We also used the wars to test our military for inevitable clash with Austria-Hungary, which had threatened Serbia with war in 1903, 1906, 1908, 1909, 1912 and finally in July 1914.
The political affiliation of the IMRO was a bit of a mess. The majority of the fighters probably did held a pro-bulgarian stance, more so out of hatred for the greeks and serbs than love of the Bulgarians, but both a minorty of the fighting forces and some of the leadership were writing up some pretty progressive and socialist things.
Ottoman should rereat and give up West Balkans to Albania, Montenegro and Serbia. Also never doing genocide to Armenians, Assyrians and Greeks. This way they would have easier deal with Bulgaria and Greece.
@@kylezdancewicz7346 explain to me how every ethnic map of the time shows Macedonia as clearly split between Albanians and Bulgarians as ethnicity, with Turks being the 2nd largest minority? Macedonian isn't a real ethnicity, the slavic people of that era wanted to be part of Bulgaria. It is shown in the video with the rebellions. The Serbs and Greeks stole this land, breaking their promises to Bulgaria. Both Serbia and Greece have nothing to claim within (Vardar) Macedonia
@@sotos-js4sf well of course I'm referring to North macedonia as it is today. This region has a very little Greek population, even smaller than the Turkish population. It is 90% split between Albanians and Macedonian Slavs (Bulgarians). The rest of Macedonia is nearly entirely Greek, although before it had significant Bulgarian and Turkish populations too that were wiped out from population exchanges mostly
@@euphoriaggaminghd Macedonians are a similar but different ethnic group. They are close to Bulgarians but most of the ethnicities in this region are already pretty similar. Every ethnic map shows no Macedonians because that ethnicity at the time wasn’t really recognized and why would you try to put the extremely similar ethnicity on your maps when it will make the nations in the region, the ones who would get alot of this data, mad and delegitimize their own claims to the region.
This war almost looks like a template for all the multi-front civil wars that we see today in very unstable regions like sub-Saharan Africa or the Middle East; a key difference being that in modern wars the interests at play are various foreign states, businesses, etc. acting through proxies where this was a direct conflict involving multiple nation states using their own armies (but also with a bunch of different rebel groups).
Still, even today, the Turks are present on the Balkan ( Constantinople, Hadrianopolis, Tracia ). The Ottomans were be repelled from the Balkan, once for all, if Bulgaria or Greece captured Constantinople. And, that was never happened!
@@EmperorTigerstar that's just not true. Serbia and Greece had signed a secret pact to defend against Bulgaria. When Bulgaria attacked Serbia, Greece joined in. Bulgaria was only interested in Macedonia that Serbia unjustly occupied and did not agree to hand over as it was agreed upon between them
Greek and Bulgarian forces literally clashed 2 days before the war started then on the 29th the Bulgarians began an offensive towards Thessaloniki but failed.
@EmperorTigerstar Bulgarian and Greek detachments fought sporadic skirmishes along the Struma valley all the way back to March 1913. Bulgaria attacked both countries without actually declaring war on them tho
They didn't. In short: Bulgaria and Serbia had a pre-war treaty that Macedonia would go to Bulgaria, but the Serbs broke the treaty and occupied the Vardar region. They also conspired against Bulgaria and signed a military pact with Greece against Bulgaria. While there were heated debates between the former allies the Tsar ordered an attack on the serbian positions as a 'demonstration of power' (an idiotic decision). The Serbs were initially beaten, but the government tried to pull the army back and try to pacify the situation, but the momentum was lost. The idea was to fight only Serbia and Greece as the Bulgarian army was bigger and stronger than the Serbian and Greek armies combined, but it was extremely shortsighted to not predict that OE and Romania would exploit the situation. By the end of the war the Serbians were halted and the Greek forces were surrounded near Kresna and close to a tactical defeat, but there were no soldiers in the north and east... Romania entered without resistance and reached Sofia. Bulgaria had to capitulate.
@@Terter1551 So it isn't stupid to not count that Romanians and especially Ottomans would exploit situation?It was idiotic move,thing where more complicated because great powers pressed Serbia and Greece to withdraw troops from Albania that was separated between Greece and Serbia in pre-war agreement,Bulgaria could choose less bad solution,but it decide to make worst move
@@play_boy7543 isn’t that what I said? It was idiotic, but the decision was illegally and unanimously taken by Tsar Ferdinand without neither the approval of the parliament, nor the government. It is regarded as a national catastrophe in Bulgaria and Ferdinand is remembered as a total failure. It’s not like the Bulgarian politicians didn’t make mistakes, they made a lot, but they wouldn’t start the war if it was not him. Albania was of no interest to Bulgaria, but the claims of Serbia there were more than weak. There were no Serbs there. However, Macedonia was populated by Bulgarians, the IMRO had a strong influence in Sofia, many of the Bulgarian politicians, generals and soldiers at the time were Macedonian. They were fighting for unification and thus it was nearly impossible for Bulgaria to give up on Macedonia, even though it looks like the more rational and pragmatic choice from our contemporary perspective.
@@ЙованДобройевичь On the 24th of November 1912 a bit of land below Izmir turns blue. I thought this was part of Anatolia, but, as the bloke below me pointed out, it's actually an island.
Yeah from İzmirs pov the island even looks like just a mountain and part of Turkey, you can literally swim the distance its really close to mainland turkey, i went to it with boat 😂@randomguy-tg7ok
The Balkans sure don't get along very well, do they?
That’s an understatement
Austrian Annexation of Bosnia, the First and Second Balkan Wars and WW1 happing within the span of 6 years Is wild
That's an understatement
Yes
That's an understatement
Balkanians: _fights and being chaotic_
Albania: _internal existence crisis_
That's a funny way to spell Greece.
@@southepirote7676 And Serbia and Montenegro.
@@aleksalakic8702 Serbia and Montenegro? You mean the Albanian lands invaded by slav nomads?
@@southepirote7676 They were never Albanian lands. Albania was created by the Great Powers in 1912 so Serbia and Greece wouldnt be so powerful.
@@aleksalakic8702 Other way around. Serbia and Greece was created by great powers so Albania wouldn't be powerful.
Italy was just like:
>signs treaty of Ouchy
>refuses to elaborate
>leaves
Must have been a painful treaty.
Italy didn't want the Balkan nations to be strong enough to challenge their future authority in the area and decided not to help them. Typical pre 1945 Italian sleaziness!
The treaty was about another war, the one for Libya, that had nothing to do with the balkan wars. Just a chronological fun fact
@@askatasunera_ and they could have taken advantage of the situation of a new war for the Ottoman empire and gain even more stuff from them! But no! "I want to rull the Mediterranean sea like the Romans did 1500 years ago and no Balkan nation should be strong enough to challenge me!!!!!!!!"
@@TeutonicEmperor1198 You are acting as if the british or the french or the germans wouldn't have done the same, in fact the Austro-Hungarian empire had a nearly identical policy for the balkans
Agreements were set, borders have been settled, and peace and prosperity came to the peninsula which lasted for several centuri... khm... months.
@@ffarkasm That's the thing, the borders had not been settled at all due how fast the war broke out.
montenegro fighting alone for like a week
Cool pfp
Fighting with Italy, but yeah
That was part of the distraction phase of the war
Guys, where’s Leroy?
The Balkan League inspires me. My mother told me that if I take Constantinople, she'll buy me an Xbox.
Whic game?
@@ggucarkardes5783 in real life
You vill never get constantinople
take istanbul my ass
Hol up boys, he's got a mission to do
I've noticed lately that you put alot of detail in albanian historical events, i really appreciate the effort you put into these videos. keep it up.
I was searching for a video like this days ago 😂
Your videos are way better quality now, nicley done.
“One day the great European war will come out of some damned foolish thing in the Balkans” -Otto Von Bismarck
He genuinely hit the nail on the head, the dude was ahead of his time
Tbf everybody knew that. The exact scenario that happened in 1914 (Serbia causing troubles over Bosnia, Austria attacking Serbia, Russia joining, Germany joining and France joining) was already being discussed several years prior to the events as a hypothetical by the diplomats of the respective countries.
Bulgaria thought they were the main character
Considering Serbia and Greece planned occupying Macedonia thus forming a secret anti-Bulgarian pact inviting even the Ottoman Empire, it kind of was the main character.
@@Фниксъ Serbia and Greece didn't have any other chance. The westerners supported the Alb*nian state.
Greece and Serbia backstabbed Bulgaria.
@@aksmex2576 Serbia maybe because they had a deal dividing their lands but not Greece. Greece did not agree with Bulgaria on anything
@@stephmod7434True, ultimately our shaky diplomacy was our biggest downfall.
There is a direct continuity between the Italian invasion of Libya (which the Great powers did nothing to oppose, signaling to the Balkan states that now was the time to attack), the Balkan Wars, and ww1:
Italy started ww1
Gavrilo Princip left the chat
How did Italy start ww1?
@@kylezdancewicz7346he is mostly joking but you could kinda say that. Italy invaded the ottoman elayet of lybia and showed how relative easily you could take land from the weakend ottomans so the balkans wars started shortly after, which you could say a few years later led to WW1 since the assassination that started it was motivated by a bunch of balkan ethnic shenanigans
@@ArdaSReal*serbian ethnic shenanigans
Albanian Revolt of 1910 lose vs Ottoman Empire. Rebels were supported by the Kingdom of Serbia. Italy thinks Ottomans are weak.
1911 Italy wanted Libya, declared on Ottoman who owned it. Italy easily took coastal cities in Libya, left the wild Senussi tribesman to the interior, waited for Ottoman Turks to quit, but they don't! Step 2 Italy takes the Rhode island fortress. Wait for Ottoman to quit, they don't, but gather most troops near the Rhode coast in Asia Minor expecting invasion.
1912 Italy then tell relative Montenegro to take opportunity to war with Turks gone, they do - First Balkan war. Then the Ottoman quit with Italy next day. It worked!
But Bulgaria, Serbia and Greece has all pile on the near empty Balkans, grabbing most. Turks defeated again and again.
Then English with some other powers stupidly says NO, NO, you can not grab all Balkans and they rearrange the peace to keep the Ottomans in Europe holding the straits. (In a few years they will bitterly regret that.)
1913 Bulgaria having to give up the most in the peace, and with Hubris think they can beat everyone, and they do advance on Greeks and Serbs in Second Balkan War, but then Romania jumps in and Turks try to get revenge - and Bulgaria is a very, very sore loser.
1914 Autonomous Republic of Northern Epirus between Albania and Greece has a short life. AND Serb terrorists set in motion WWI in Sarajevo.
1915 The Turks join Central Powers of WWI , and now England & allies regret letting the Ottoman Turks keep the straits, Gallipoli anyone? And then angry Bulgaria back stabs Serbia getting back Macedonia for a couple years.....Oh, and those wild Sennussi tribes fight the allies in N Africa from 1915-1917.
WWI ends, Bulgaria loses even more - very unhappy fellow will look for another chance with Hitler in 1941-44....as will Italy who thinks Serbia/Yugoslavia got too much land in the peace.
WWII set up.
At this time period Istanbul was still named Constantinople, it wasn't until the early 1920s that the name was officially changed until Mustafa Kamal
Actually, no. If you look at official Ottoman documents from the era, you would see that the city is refered as Istanbul by most people and by generals, bureaucrats, Ottoman Royal Family etc. The name “Constantinople” lost it’s widespread use in the early 19. century by commoners.
@@ScoromX25Well on his map he has Belgrade instead of Belgorod and Salonica which he changes to Thessoloniki in 1913.
@@A-Flanoit was always Thessaloniki. That's what the greeks called the city
I don't know the details much, but I always find it funny that the Bulgaria had a fight with all its neighbors at the same time.
Which was dumb since it just allowed the Ottomans to regain some territory.
Real Bulgarian IQ moment there.
Bulgaria: So now with the Ottomans gone everyone can agree that I am the new empire in the region, right?
*Gets scammed off the treaty*
Everyone: oh ma god bruh, who invited this kid…
"You are my friend"
"You are my enemy now!"
It goes a few more times, as Bulgaria and Ottomans would "ally" in ww1.
SOFT TACOS LATER!!!
This video feels strangely nostalgic
He has done it before
@@ConghoaXoVietHungary I know but the music and style makes it feel like a video from 2016
Ever since February 1911 The Ottomans just couldn't catch a brake...
Not since 1911; Last century of Ottomans was non-stop relentless conflicts. It was almost always Ottomans vs the world. Ottomans had wars and battles with each and every Great Power (including USA) and had countless rebellions from 10+ ethnic groups and political turmoils in this era, yet took a century from being Great Power to final dissolution.
In the beginning of 19th century, nearly all of Balkans were Ottoman territory. It was year 1878 Ottomans lost half of Balkan territories and finally bended his knees, in 1913 he collapsed to the ground and in 1918 gave final breath. But even in his deathbed, managed to kick right in the balls to Allied Powers in WW1.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_Ottoman_Empire
@@Whimsical_Inquiror
Lol, are you serious? If any great power actually wanted the Ottomans gone, they would've done that.
The US? Sure... it wasn't like pirates were the reason... What about the Crimean war?
@@user-sh3cf7kd6ebut they couldn't , Empire lasted 600 years 🤫
Finally someone who knows about the St Petersburg protocol
Now I want Unironically Living in Europe to talk about both Balkan wars
Trashy channel with bias and no respect to their viewer
I love this video! I learned that there were independent states in Crete and Thrace, which I never knew before as a history enthusiast. Very well done! But I have one suggestion, I think the borders should be in black (e.g. the Danube between Bulgaria and Romania) even when there are rivers there, because for people who aren't familiar with the borders of the countries, they might think there are no borders there, and for those who do know the borders it is just distracting. Anyway that's a minor issue, I am a big fan of you and keep up the good work!
The reason for the war resumptions were that Edirne was still holding out. Kemal Described as a window into the Ottoman harem.
Keep up the amazing work ❤️
Been waiting for this one
Wasnt the bulgarian rebellion called BMORK (later WMORO) and not IMRO. IMRO seems to be founded only in 1919.
That's right. IMORO or Internal Macedonian-Odrin Revolutionary Organisation was the name at the time. After WW1 the Macedonian and Thracian fractions separated and does it became only IMRO.
Fun fact: Siege of Scutari lasted for 7 months and only ended when the commander of Scutari Hasan Rıza Pasha, who had no intention of surrderning, was assassinated by his second in command Essad Pasha (who was an Albanian), who surrendered the city. It was a extremely sensational event in the Ottoman Empire back then.
as usual, quality research !
Nice vid, keep making videos
Frist balkan war- Bulgaria,Greece vs ottomans
Second balkan war- ottomans,Greece vs Bulgaria
Ww1-ottoman,Bulgaria vs Greece
hahahaha true
Serbia and Romania were both in ww1 also
Ohrid-Dibra Uprising was a common Albanian-Bulgarian uprising, both Albanian kaçaks and Bulgarian IMRO chetas fought together against the Serb rule in those areas, Isa Boletini was the main Albanian commander during the uprising
oh as a Turkish I knew in English we use Bulgarian/Greek Haydut-Hayduk(bandit is Turkish) or Armenian fedayi(fedai actually, means bouncer) but I just learnt Kaçak(means runaway/illegal in Turkish) for Albanians.
Imro was terror organization
🇧🇬♥️🇦🇱. It is a fact that no Serbians participated in the independence movements and battles in Bulgaria. On the other hand Albaniana and Turks even did.
@@RosTheXD serbs sent soldiers to bulgarian front in balkan war
@@Khacmaz_edits and Bulgarian chetniks assisted the main serb army in maceodnia and you guys paid us with betrayal
Video is super detailed but it would be better to see different colors for all balkan league countries
I thought about that but part of the problem is there were a few fronts that had regiments from multiple countries and I didn't want to deal with triple the amount of colors either.
And nothing bad would ever happen in the Balkans again!
WW1 and WW2
The Debar uprising was a joint Bulgarian-Albanian one against the Serbian ocupation.
Comment section is already becoming a war lol. as an American, this is extremely good for our interests...
How so ? We haven’t got any oil
Nothing for you in Balkan
I like your videos❤ greetings from Nicaragua!
3:01 rare footage of the ottoman empire winning a war in 20XX
You mean 19XX?-
In 20XX,
That’s some legendary unheard of footage
@@SolaroidSF actually they won 1897 Greek-Ottoman war and could reintegrate Greece after 67 years but Great Powers sent ultimatum to porte. If troops enter Athens Russia would decleare war.
Also Ottomans won half of the wars in 19th century. Even for English pages(most of them try so hard to put enemy victory or indecisive role as we know)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_Ottoman_Empire#Decline_and_modernization_(1789-1908)
Monumental fumble by Bulgaria
Real, Both culturally and economically as losing Turkish Thrace and access to the Aegean is the biggest L a Balkan power could have made
@@tylerellis9097 the biggest? really?? How about the Asia Minor catastrophe?
@@anonymous-hz2un That's not in the Balkans is it but Greece losing the same piece of Thrace is also a big L
@@tylerellis9097 fyi, greece is a balkan nation. I dont think Eastern Thrace is that important when compared to losing Izmir and the following genocide and expulsion of anatolian greeks.
The Bulgarians seem to be even more overconfident with attacking all their neighbours at once than the Germans. Prussia of the Balkans is a rightfully earned nickname. Only beaten by Paraguay
The intention was to fight only the Serbs and the Greeks. The hubris of the Bulgarian generals was real, but still the Bulgarian army outnumbered the Serbian and Greek armies combined and it had better training and command. However, the war was started by Tsar Ferdinand and not the government. The government tried to pull the armies back, the momentum was lost and the rest is history...
Can ur next video be one where the community can vote how a treaty goes? Maybe after napoleon or after the 7 years war.
1:13 is that a typo?
In the Bulgarian history books this is studied as "the first national catastrophe". Which means there will be a sequel 8=(
Just a question, why have your more recent videos with the Ottoman Empire featured Turkified city names like Istanbul that weren't renamed until after the Turkish War of Independence?
As a Greek i prefer tl have Northern Epirus instead of western Thrace as you may not see it today but there were a lot more Greeks in northern Epirus in the past!
Και εγώ. Αν η Ελλάδα έπαιρνε την βόρεια Ήπειρο αντί για την δυτική Θράκη, θα ήταν καλύτερα, γιατί τότε η δυτική Θράκη ήταν γεμάτη με Βούλγαρους και Τούρκους, ενώ η βόρεια Ήπειρος είχε Έλληνες με λίγους Αλβανούς.
@KeyUploads2 well maybe the coasts were Greek but that's about it. And there were also Greeks near Edirne and in all of Eastern Thrace. In fact there were a lot more Greeks in Eastern Thrace rather than Western Thrace. Western Thrace was mostly full of Pomaks
@@unknown12367 επίσης οι Αλβανοί στην Βόρειο Ήπειρο ήταν Ορθόδοξοι που είναι πιο εύκολο να τους κάνεις assimilate παρά τους μουσουλμάνους της Θράκης
What 😂😂 aren't you Greeks raging irredentists claiming everything you can? How would youve been then connected to your constantinople?
Greeks are only 20 k in all of albania , there are more Egyptians than greeks (24k). Only 17% of north epirius is greek. Btw cameria is Albania 🇦🇱
Ottoman Turks: Well, that didn't go well for us but things appear to have calmed down in the Balkans.
Gavrilo Princip: Pew pew!
They're all arguing over who's the most dominant.
Could you do the English civil war?
The Balkan Wars in a nutshell:
First: Everyone is against the Ottoman Empire
Second: Everyone is against Bulgaria
As a Romanian, Im so glad that our involvement in this mess was minimal
If Bulgaria had a chance it ended as there wasnt anybody on your border and turkey entered after that
@@vasil.kamdzhalovnot really, Bulgaria was strong but no where near strong enough to beat Serbia and Greece after the surprise wore off
@@kylezdancewicz7346 Yes, that is why I said, if Bulgaria had a chance (any). The tzar was just too ambitous and that time for worse. I have seen claims that Serbia knew that Bulgaria will attack given that the agreement that was signed was honoured and just signed a secret deal with Greece to help, so in a way it wasnt that much a surprice attack from Bulgaria, it would have worked for Bulgaria that much.
@@kylezdancewicz7346 What surprise? The Serbo-Greek pact had already occupied Macedonia, surprassed the the Tikvesh uprising massacres thousand of Bulgarians and had their troops in position. By the time the Ottoman empire entered the war the Serbs had been beaten at Kalimanci and King Constantine asked for cease-fire after being surrounded near Sofia.
@@Фниксъ the start of the war was a “unexpected” Bulgarian invasion of Serbian controlled Macedonia. The second this ended they got pushed back. Don’t know why you felt the need to reply to me for some reason
Wow it was basically over in two months, and then four months of the Ottos and Bulgars failing to agree to an armistice.
I'm honestly a bit confused by Albania. Wouldn't it have been prudent to mark Tirana on a map? I know it wasn't the Albanian capital at the time, but, considering it's the largest Albanian city, marking it on the map over, I don't know, Vlorë or something, would've been more informative?
Vlora was the most important Albanians city for the Balkan wars
Tirana was a small town all the way until th 1920s.
@@ЙованДобройевичьit was the most important because it was the only one available, if they declared independence in shkoder or ioannina the great powers and greece/serbia would annex albania anyways
Vlorë was the capital, then Durrës, Tirana became capital only after 1920
Balkan wars were a complete success for us in Serbia.
We also used the wars to test our military for inevitable clash with Austria-Hungary, which had threatened Serbia with war in 1903, 1906, 1908, 1909, 1912 and finally in July 1914.
why romania isnt marked as great power?
It wasn't
Because they were never considered or a member of the great powers.
Finally, some high quality bait
@@EmperorTigerstar Everyone knows the true great power: Lichtenstein. They waged a war with 80 soldiers, only to end it with 81
@@Maus_Indahausthat's a myth
History of Macedonia (region) video?
Comments on this video are predictably hilarious. I imagine my video idea would be even worse
They were so close to taking all of eastern Thrace!
What was the logic of Bulgaria in this? What was their rationale?
the treaty of ouchy? that might be the best name for a peace deal
The enemy of my enemy is also my enemy.
Treaty of Ouchy 😭
Will it be possible for you to do a remake on the Polish-Soviet war video sometime in the future?
Could you do a remake of the Korean War?
Very interesting
Dude Bulgaria could've been huge and even gotten Constantinople but they did some pretty huge miscalculations
I knew something was up with Albania throughout this time
Yeah, by some guy behind a TH-cam channel teaching nationalist Greek propaganda 😂
The political affiliation of the IMRO was a bit of a mess. The majority of the fighters probably did held a pro-bulgarian stance, more so out of hatred for the greeks and serbs than love of the Bulgarians, but both a minorty of the fighting forces and some of the leadership were writing up some pretty progressive and socialist things.
Make one about the second Congo war
Ah yes, im sure peace lasted in the balkans for at least another 10 years after that, seems everyone was happy
This is only time in history the Balkans where united
i thought besserabia was a part of romania
Not until 1918
02:25 This uprising was not "Pro Bulgarian" as the video says. This was a Macedonian uprising
I would like to see a video on the Lebanese civil war
I hope this comments section will be nice and civil.
Most peaceful region
what about *the third one?*
Osmanlı'nın Balkanlar'daki o küçücük ülkelerle bile başa çıkamadığını ne kadar zayıf olduğunu biliyoruz
WE NEED A TUTORIALL
I already have one: th-cam.com/video/lvC8FGJUpKk/w-d-xo.html
@@EmperorTigerstar my emperor i had a questiom
Ottoman should rereat and give up West Balkans to Albania, Montenegro and Serbia.
Also never doing genocide to Armenians, Assyrians and Greeks.
This way they would have easier deal with Bulgaria and Greece.
Calling Italy a great power is crazy
Every industrialised and imperialist European country was considered as a "great power".
@@dieletztekavallerie395italy was like a fetus surut Earphones 1900s
Montenegro 🇲🇪☦️❤️
imagine if bulgaria weren't blunder
It was a close one before the Ottomans entered.
@@Фниксъit really wasn't. Bulgaria got kicked hard by Greece
@@unknown12367 Then why did King Constantine begged for a cease-fire after being surrounded?
@@Фниксъ he didn't. Tsar Boris begged Russia to help him end the war
Konami: The Belkan Wars!
If these wars were truly about liberation then Albania and Bulgaria would share a border
If it was truly about liberation Macedonian would be independent
@@kylezdancewicz7346 explain to me how every ethnic map of the time shows Macedonia as clearly split between Albanians and Bulgarians as ethnicity, with Turks being the 2nd largest minority? Macedonian isn't a real ethnicity, the slavic people of that era wanted to be part of Bulgaria. It is shown in the video with the rebellions. The Serbs and Greeks stole this land, breaking their promises to Bulgaria. Both Serbia and Greece have nothing to claim within (Vardar) Macedonia
@@euphoriaggaminghdMacedonia has always been greek.Unless if by "macedonia" you mean paeonia(modern north macedonia) only then your point has merit.
@@sotos-js4sf well of course I'm referring to North macedonia as it is today. This region has a very little Greek population, even smaller than the Turkish population. It is 90% split between Albanians and Macedonian Slavs (Bulgarians). The rest of Macedonia is nearly entirely Greek, although before it had significant Bulgarian and Turkish populations too that were wiped out from population exchanges mostly
@@euphoriaggaminghd Macedonians are a similar but different ethnic group.
They are close to Bulgarians but most of the ethnicities in this region are already pretty similar. Every ethnic map shows no Macedonians because that ethnicity at the time wasn’t really recognized and why would you try to put the extremely similar ethnicity on your maps when it will make the nations in the region, the ones who would get alot of this data, mad and delegitimize their own claims to the region.
Inbros should and Tenedos should not have been seded.
This war almost looks like a template for all the multi-front civil wars that we see today in very unstable regions like sub-Saharan Africa or the Middle East; a key difference being that in modern wars the interests at play are various foreign states, businesses, etc. acting through proxies where this was a direct conflict involving multiple nation states using their own armies (but also with a bunch of different rebel groups).
Still, even today, the Turks are present on the Balkan ( Constantinople, Hadrianopolis, Tracia ). The Ottomans were be repelled from the Balkan, once for all, if Bulgaria or Greece captured Constantinople. And, that was never happened!
ww1 prequel
Fifth! Greetings From Federative Republic of Brazil 🇧🇷😊
Title is “The Balkan wars” yet it did not show the Balkans every year from 10,000 BC to 2006. Very lazy video!!!!!
(Just joking this was pretty good)
What a shame for us
montenegro top!
True small but brave .
2:31 false. Bulgaria invaded Serbia, but not Greece. Greece declared on Bulgaria 2 days after their attack on Serbia.
Nope. Bulgarians attacked Greek forces too.
@@EmperorTigerstar that's just not true. Serbia and Greece had signed a secret pact to defend against Bulgaria. When Bulgaria attacked Serbia, Greece joined in. Bulgaria was only interested in Macedonia that Serbia unjustly occupied and did not agree to hand over as it was agreed upon between them
Greek and Bulgarian forces literally clashed 2 days before the war started then on the 29th the Bulgarians began an offensive towards Thessaloniki but failed.
@EmperorTigerstar Bulgarian and Greek detachments fought sporadic skirmishes along the Struma valley all the way back to March 1913. Bulgaria attacked both countries without actually declaring war on them tho
im from the balkans
South Epirus is Albanian. Çam genocide is still unforgettable.
It was an ethnic c l e a n s i n g not a g3n0c1d3
lmao wtf did bulgaria think was gonna happen when they declared war on all their allies in the war were they stupid?
Short answer,yes
They didn't. In short: Bulgaria and Serbia had a pre-war treaty that Macedonia would go to Bulgaria, but the Serbs broke the treaty and occupied the Vardar region. They also conspired against Bulgaria and signed a military pact with Greece against Bulgaria. While there were heated debates between the former allies the Tsar ordered an attack on the serbian positions as a 'demonstration of power' (an idiotic decision). The Serbs were initially beaten, but the government tried to pull the army back and try to pacify the situation, but the momentum was lost. The idea was to fight only Serbia and Greece as the Bulgarian army was bigger and stronger than the Serbian and Greek armies combined, but it was extremely shortsighted to not predict that OE and Romania would exploit the situation. By the end of the war the Serbians were halted and the Greek forces were surrounded near Kresna and close to a tactical defeat, but there were no soldiers in the north and east... Romania entered without resistance and reached Sofia. Bulgaria had to capitulate.
@@Terter1551 So it isn't stupid to not count that Romanians and especially Ottomans would exploit situation?It was idiotic move,thing where more complicated because great powers pressed Serbia and Greece to withdraw troops from Albania that was separated between Greece and Serbia in pre-war agreement,Bulgaria could choose less bad solution,but it decide to make worst move
@@play_boy7543 isn’t that what I said? It was idiotic, but the decision was illegally and unanimously taken by Tsar Ferdinand without neither the approval of the parliament, nor the government. It is regarded as a national catastrophe in Bulgaria and Ferdinand is remembered as a total failure. It’s not like the Bulgarian politicians didn’t make mistakes, they made a lot, but they wouldn’t start the war if it was not him. Albania was of no interest to Bulgaria, but the claims of Serbia there were more than weak. There were no Serbs there. However, Macedonia was populated by Bulgarians, the IMRO had a strong influence in Sofia, many of the Bulgarian politicians, generals and soldiers at the time were Macedonian. They were fighting for unification and thus it was nearly impossible for Bulgaria to give up on Macedonia, even though it looks like the more rational and pragmatic choice from our contemporary perspective.
Crazy
Those who know 💀
Last time i was this early Hungary was turk!
Sultan II.Abdulhamid shouldn't have left from throne in 1908.... Young turks destroyed great empire
Damn, the Greeks landed in Anatolia during the First Balkan War? I did not know that.
When and where??
No, that's samos island, it's an island, but very close to Anatolia
@@ЙованДобройевичь On the 24th of November 1912 a bit of land below Izmir turns blue. I thought this was part of Anatolia, but, as the bloke below me pointed out, it's actually an island.
Yeah from İzmirs pov the island even looks like just a mountain and part of Turkey, you can literally swim the distance its really close to mainland turkey, i went to it with boat 😂@randomguy-tg7ok
@@ArdaSRealYou may come here in Greece whenever you want! (Just not with military costumes)
Greece: existential identity crisis
It's when real men cry. 5 million people died, 5.5 million people expelled to Anatolia.
BS
Bro why did you upload this on the 30th? Do you have something against Turkey?
Because I always have a video on Fridays?