How Good Can Josh Giddey Become? | The Mismatch | The Ringer
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- The Ringer’s Kevin O’Connor and Chris Vernon discuss Josh Giddey’s historic performance at Madison Square Garden and what the Thunder rookie’s ceiling is in the NBA.
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His dad and Ben Simmons dad played together on the Melbourne Tigers basketball team
And Brucie Boldens son Jonah & Caleb Exums son Dante.Something was in the water down in Melbourne.
Well yeah .... Melbourne as a city (Victoria as a state) has the most #1 NBA draft picks.
Simmons
Kyrie
Bogut
Cecil Exum wasn’t it ?
The only basketball teams I follow (Tigers & Sonics) and neither team exists anymore 😭
@@djestar look at the rafters at John Cain Arena..... Melbourne United are just the Melbourne Tigers (Rebranded)
Giddey is the real deal. He's gonna be a star if he becomes a slightly more efficient scorer.
He will be like a bat out of hell in the off season working on his shots.Its in his character.
Has lately. Him and Shai could be very very good
🤞🤞
Watched him play in Australia. He has what you can't teach ... Crazy poise. He's only a kid. No ceiling. All NBA.
What u mean by 'ceiling' what ?
@@4thquarter214 like his max potential
The arm arrogance on this lad is amazing 🤩
Needs to learn how to score, and like high level scoring. For next 10 years you have ja, luka, trae as 3 out of 6 all nba spots unless josh learns how to score 25 a game. He will have to fight it out with booker, lamelo, ant, spida, lavine, garland for the last 3 spots plus all the guys in prime right now in harden, kyrie, steph, demar. And thats not taking into account all the guys still coming into the league
@@tnikoli40 Needs to learn how to score? I think he knows how to score, he just needs to be more efficient at it. Work on his 3 ball, I agree. Once that start dropping, it's over.
Watch Giddey in postgame interviews. He talks like an NBA head coach - because he already thinks like one.
I saw Giddy in person, when he was playing in the nbl. He is outstanding. He’s court vision is so good. His shooting is continued to improve which is nice to see. The experience of playing against professional help these rookies to be NBA ready.
I only seen him play against the Mavericks (my team), but this dude made a real impression! He's an All Star caliber talent for certain, possibly All NBA in a few more years. He plays tough and confident, already beyond his years.
Thunder hit on all 4 picks this year (as of right now)
Josh Giddey
Tre Mann
JRE
Aaron wiggins
They drafted the Joe Rogan Experience?
Great content guys 👍 Giddey hasn’t shocked Australian fans this kid is going to 🔥 the NBA up. OKC have struck Gold.
Bro in France we have like one show that talks about the NBA. And they never talk about okc (because they don't hava the time they have to focus on contenders) but they named him MVP of the night that day and I was so happy. Giddey is special he can go far I hope he keeps on improving
Hell yeah thanks France for giving our Aussie boy done love
With Josh Giddey OKC are one of most exciting teams to each grow up!
Get the man a big. He has beautiful arm arrogance 🔥🔥
I wouldn’t say the Thunder aren’t close even. Most people don’t know they are a top 10 defense without a real center or consistent rim protection. Adding a guy like Jabari/Paolo/Chet to this roster opens up so many things on both sides of the court and easily vaults them into play in range.
Chet would be a great fit, he looks like an elite rim protector
@@zodiac23jj This aged like fine wineee
It’s remarkable to think one of the best playmaking guards in the NBA is 19. He’s the most complete young playmaker to come into the league since Rubio. I hope he watches a ton of Luka video to see how he uses his handle and body to get anywhere he wants, either to his spots to score or kick to teammates. That’s the guy he needs to model just to get some individual scoring moves. He may never develop to that level, but if he can fill the gaps with some Nash-like playmaking, at his size with his rebounding, that’s a very good player.
since rubio? lol
fair enough
Ahm, Luka?
LaMelo was elite last year, idk
Rubio was ridiculously mature as a rookie
@@atonshabazz-bey911 lamelo was nowhere close to the playmaker giddey is, Luka was not on that level either. Both were better players but worse playmakers
5:38 time stamp , all of a sudden hes out with a "hip" injury haha - you predicted the future !
Dort, JRE, Tre, Wiggins.... watch the Giddey passing highlights and you'll see where a lot of their points come from.. 35% From the field, if his team make 35% of his passes his assists will go even higher... A new OKC fan here, whew
With Shai, Dort and Moose already out, Presti may have to creative with what 'injury' designations he gives Giddey and Mann to keep the tank on schedule.
lmao they did shut down Mann & Giddey sadly, both of them could've been all rookie 1st team while Giddey having a chance to an candidate for ROTY
I'm a Mavs fan and a guy like Lu Dort could change our entire dynamic right now.
Yeah his defensive skills, hustle and strength are on insane level and he’s only 22. Also his 3 pointers have improved
Would like to know what Dallas can offer for Dort
@@QOOjuicetastenice hell no we are keeping Dort, no way OKC would be dumb enough to let Dort go
I’m a Sixers fan and I would trade Thybulle who gets way more love defensively than Dort in a heartbeat!!!
@@razzo086 I meant I’d love to know what can Dallas offer us, cuz they pretty much use all their future picks, and if Luka is untouchable, there’s no one Id want on that team if I am Presti
How can you not be excited fornthe future of the Thunder. They have a couple young rising stars and 20 something more 1st round draft picks in the next few years.
Close enough. 17 (!!!!!) first round draft picks in the next 5 years. 17!!! I have little doubt some of those are trade fodder galore to move up in the draft or to get a quality veteran statement player to nuture and lead the young core.
That cross court pass and stayed at the dunker spot was some next level stuff
Is he officially in the conversation now!? Cmon now
this draft class is looking elite....1996, 1984, 2003 vibes
His passing reminds me of Bird. In fact a lot of things he does reminds me of Bird. I can only dream that he might be close to as good as Bird. Yes I'm old, and watched all of Bird's games.
As a dual citizen-USA/Australia- I am very proud of his accomplishments already- as point guard his game at the Garden was "his coming of age game in the NBA"- This kid can play. His vision and passing are magic and fun to watch.
Said he would get 3 TD's in his rookie yr & 1 off them would have good no's in pts.But expected him to get a lot of dbl-dbl's.He will be a Dbl threat every game next season.And going to a re-building franchise was the planet's aligning for him.Just keep being you Joshua.Jump on that horse in the mid West & Giddey the f**k up.
He’s gonna be elite on the state prison team
He's from my city. A few years back I saw him working on his game with his trainer at a local gym. Crazy to see where he is now
Koc gave the thunder a C for drafting him
I’m a Tulsa Oklahoma native and haven’t watched bball in a few years. Giddy is bringing it back for me. I hope they beef him up
Giddey doesn't need more muscle to play the game since his talent & skillset do not require him to bulk up to enable to play this kind of style of basketball what he needs to keep on improving is his scoring and shooting.
Long time listener first time viewer. I am truly shocked … I would have sworn that Chris was 20 years older than he appears!
1st, 2nd and 3rd youngest player to get a triple double.
And 4th 17p/10r/10a vs spurs
You guys don't know the half of it. His dad played pro ball in Australia, was an incredibly hard worker. Giddy is good friends and is being coached by Andrew Gaze, Australia greatest baller and shooter. Giddy has the talent, pedigree, work ethic and drive to be better. Watch out NBA!
Having a mentor like Gazey is invaluable. Glad to see that people are starting to pay attention to this kid. He is going to be great.
Giddy's so young and has great playmaking instincts but if his shot doesn't improve and consistently get more lift and fluidity, he is going to get eaten up in the playoffs ( if the Thunder ever make the leap). Defenses notoriously get tougher and scheme more deliberately for specific tendencies & habits as games become more meaningful. Creating consistent space for his shot will be even more crucial. Right now, it seems to me he has a high end Ricky Rubio ceiling, which isn't bad at all but he also has years to improve, he's still just a teenager. Good luck Giddy-man.
the thunder dont need to worry about the playoffs for a while
Yeah a 6'8" Rubio wouldn't be bad at all
What if this team moved all in on Ayton? Giddey/Shai/Ayton sounds like a serious young core.
I don’t think they should Right now. If they can get a good forward in the next draft then maybe but I don’t want them to be the next team who has insane guard play and a good center only to miss a sf.
Dort can play sf and he plays bigger than he is but he still not a real sf. And I don’t see Bazley being more than a good 6th man.
I mean Shai and giddey can play sf but you want both of them in the backcourt.
I mean those guys and a Mikal bridges at sf/pf and Ayton type c? That would be lethal
Ayton is RFA and as trolly as Presti can be, you can bet both your nut sacks that James Jones matches whatever price OKC proposes and convinces Sarver otherwise that its the move to make. You are on the right track that this OKC team has a lot of promising complimentary talent that can work harmoniously with better players. They may not make noise now with the roster but wait till maybe 2024 when some nice names off their first extension are in the market.
@@t4d0W Well it just fascinates me what the strategy is when you have THIS depth of young talent and SO MANY draft picks. At what point do you turn the corner and go all-in?
Shai, Dort, and Giddey are clearly talented players that can contribute to a theoretical championship team. Tre Mann definitely looks solid these days, and they have some more young pieces to develop. Would it make sense to flip a bunch of picks for a disgruntled young player these days? Or wait another year or two?
It’s funny how people didn’t give him a chance and thought it was a bad pick while all is Australians who had seen him play knew he was about to surprise a lot of people
Giddy been clutch af for my fantasy team this year no doubt he's gonna be a triple double machine one day
I'm here for every bit of this, giddey the fuck up.
One of my favorite young guards. I wish Brad Stevens was able to work out a trade to bring him to the Celtics. Josh is going to be a great one.
In his draft scouting report. It looks like he's bad in basketball because of the negatives listed on him. But God damn the dude is a legit baller. So confident
The Australian NT is getting very interesting. If Ben Simmons ever learn how to shoot and, you know, decides he wants to play basketball unless contractually obliged, it will be interesting.
This was suppose to be a version Simmons minus the defense which he will develop, and athletecism. Magic and Houston scratching their heads now for not scouting better. Suggs
and Green have been lackluster.
Remember when people were in uproar when OKC picked him in the 6th pick. Sam Presti knows how to draft unlike these media bums.
Look at his draft picks over the decade. Even the later rounds. Alexei is the exception.
The Ringer had him 12th in their mock draft. He's clearly top 5 right now.
Poku can still put it together any of these seasons. Still young as hell. Had a nice finish last night
You're absolutely right about Presti knowing better than the media dumbasses. NBA Media are even worse when it comes to international prospects. If ignorant members of the American media haven't seen a player's college highlights on ESPN, they're automatically a bust, too slow, lacking athleticism, and/or "haven't faced high-level competition". Never mind that teenagers like Luka and Giddey dominated grown men in leagues that are 50X tougher than American college. I love seeing clueless gasbags like Stephen A Smith eat their words about guys like Luka and Giddey.
Honestly okc is the best place for him to develop
Suggs is actually doing ok now he just got injured early and cant get his momentum going
Ceiling is luka doncic light. Floor is Jason Kidd.
The similarities between giddeys game and magic Johnson’s are spooky. I don’t think he is going to be AS good as magic but put him in a good team or if okc start winning he will be all nba in a couple of years . his height allows him to see the court over defenders heads and his ,almost slow ,dribble penetration is like watching 32 all over again
"And how can this be? For he is the Kwista Haderach"
Making it rain in Oklahoma.
Is 2021 one of the best top 10 lottery draft. I can see all 10 of them get in all star in the future and half of them in the all-NBA. and 1 or 2 MVP
Finally people talking about Giddey. Been calling him ROTY for months.
As LeBron just said today about Giddey the kid's very very very good.
Reminds me of a Luka type player
NFL QB prospects the description of making off platform throws..that’s Giddey, he makes off platform plays
the great players make it look easy... not flashy... thats Giddey!
Greatest Example Jokic on the way on that is Giddey 💯
how about both ez and flashy?
I think hes gonna be great. That said, alot of people panned the pick intially. Idk why?
Because people over value shooting in the draft. He cant shoot but hes still so effective.
Because he projected to be a bad shooter (true so far), kinda slow (true but he’s fine because he’s crafty), and he was supposed to be a bad defender (so far he’s fine, but not great). His effort and IQ in all other areas makes up for everything.
His ceiling is becoming the player we all thought Rubio might be when he entered the league
I was disappointed that the Thunder lost out on the chance to draft Cade but as the season has progressed I am incredibly happy Sam Presti is the GM for the Thunder
Who will be better Josh Giddey or Tyrese Haliburton?
Rn I’d say tyrese but in the long term I’d take josh
lmao still remember the weakness graphic of giddey and every basic skill imaginable was on it
If he works at his shot relentlessly, he can become a great one.
I only call him the "Babyfaced Assasin"!
Cause he looks like he cant do anything or hurt you and your team in any way or form. You also never think "Wow, this guy is killing us right now!" but at the end, he scored 20+ points with 10 assits and 9 rebounds. And all you can think is why did we loose against this rebuilding team? WHo did beat us?
Never THE man, but a huge and necessary piece for a contender. An Andre Iguadola (not that they are similar, just in terms of their value)
Gidney and Chet is going to be nuts. They're going to get better, each season to the next, the next 4 years.
He is like a mash up of pistol pete and magic Johnson. I'm now referring to him as 'Pistol Johnson'
The fact he doesn’t turn 20 til early next season blows my mind,the Thunder better not screw all these promising young players up😓
i legit think this team with a real starting center could snag an 8 seed if things go right next year call me crazy.... on second thought please don't we can just leave it here
coming back to this video and the "find something wrong with giddey cause he too good" statement came true
I agree with KOC, I don't want to compare him to Jokic, BUT Giddey does definitely remind me of the joker sometimes when watching him play. A weird, non-traditional, herky-jerky athlete with an unbelievable eye for a pass, and always seems to be in control going at his own pace.
How many picks have okc got in the next draft??
I'm giddy for Giddey. :-D
Gifddey is damn good
So best passers in order: 1) Jokic 2) Giddey 3) Hayes? 🤔
So question, will okc build giddy to a high profile player and use him as a trade for a gun or keep him long term?
His floor is current day Hayward ceiling is all nba
Should I keep him or D'Angelo Russell for next year? (Im in a Keeper fantasy league)
Vernon wore husky jeans in elementary school
Giddey with good shooting is Larry Bird
You guys weren't even talking about him before the season. I was telling you he'd be great.
Don’t sleep on Tre Mann. Giddey looks like the real deal. Wiggins is really intuitive on the court for a rookie. The Thunder with a starting caliber front court will be ready to make a run in the near future.
He better be rookie of the year. I tell you he is so good.
His dad was a really good passer rebounder and defender but couldn’t score. His dads teammate was Andrew Gaze, who was one of the best shooters the world has seen.
I know nothing about the Thunder and was torturing myself being a Knicks fan and was wondering where TF was this kid was from.
Not sure if he can become Batman, seems to lack scoring aggression but he's got Pippen level Robin potential.
Knicks fan saying Hi
The 2 players with the biggest upside are Kuminga and Giddey
The Wizard Of Aus = ROTY⚡🪄
He loves the Garden huh?
Wonder how Randle feels about OKC, lol.
How good can Giddey be?? 🐐 potential NO 🧢!
But it seems OKC has no vets to mentor these young players to take the next step (all-star, all-nba).
Different body type and footwork, but his impact is up there with Luka's
remember when people were shocked to know him get drafted at 6th? 😂
Transcendent
What happens when his shot improves? yikes.
His passing is just a phenom.
As an OKC fan, i say its a safe bet to not put a ceiling on him but if i had to choose i would say he could be a Borderline All-Star to an Occasional All-Star level player. I wouldnt quite say he is a perennial All-Star level guy but i also wouldnt be surprised
Who’ll be better Giddy or LaMelo?
Kevin O’Cannabis
Josh Giddey the next Luka?
Baby Luka! less of a scorer but around the same rebound and assists!
Everyone should be afraid of OKC coming for rings. They have like 55 overal picks the next 5 years
One of them has to turn into an elite player for OKC to get to that conversation. Presti had no brainers in Durant/Westbrook/Harden that allowed him to get to the Finals. He has guys now that would make great 2nd~5th options but not one guy who is the inevitable super skilled bucket go-getter.
@@t4d0W haha I'm just trolling. It's what everyone says about presti having a million picks.
@@t4d0W also, the boys even pointed out that besides Durant, every other of dams picks weren't no brainers
@@t4d0W the bucket getter is sga idk if you've been paying attn
Lamelo, Murray and Giddey. Same breed
But didn't they say his weakness is basketball .... smh
He shares a lot of the same strengths that Lonzo and Lamelo Ball have
The magic drafted sabonis not the thunder
All he needs is to get stronger so he can finish better and improve his jumpshot. Even just catch and shoot or 1 dribble shot. If he gets a consistent pull up or becomes a stud on defense he's All Nba bound.
He reminds me of Steve Nash but more athletic
Highly disagree, unless giddy becomes one of the best 3point shooters ever
what he said. ^ nash is one of the best shooters of all time
@@boodaviking2736 gotcha.. i just meant in terms of scoring and getting to the goal, spectacular passing, controlling the pace, and he can shoot 3s. He’s only 19
Hopefully OKC and Sam Presti plan to cash in with all those picks and young players, start wninning some games find some help for SGA, Dort and Giddey who are untouchable. I was hoping they would try to trade for both Sabonis and Grant, they have the cap.
Giddey, Shai, Dort, Grant and Sabonis is a reallt good starting 5 in the West.
They just need a really need to find star big man.
it is known
here to push josh giddey roty agenda