Canon RF 28-70mm f/2.8 IS STM lens review

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  • ...and here's the full review. Enjoy!
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  • @bryanbernart
    @bryanbernart หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    You're a saint to publish this before Black Friday. Many thanks!

  • @juhaaavalaakso455
    @juhaaavalaakso455 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I have this for my R8 and it replaced all my prime lenses and all other lenses except telephoto. Fantastic lens for every day use. Dead silent focus and IS. And its very compact. Love the twisting to make it travel compact. And it is super sharp. I have simple nothing negative to say about this. This and R8 is a great combo.

    • @luparente8269
      @luparente8269 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I also shoot with an R8 and am considering this lens to replace my 35 and 85mm STM lenses, which I'm very pleased with. I figure this gives me a 50 as well and the 70 might just be enough to get away from the 85, with the added bonus of not having to swap lenses. Np gripes or regrets?

    • @juhaaavalaakso455
      @juhaaavalaakso455 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@luparente8269 I sold my 50, 24, 28 lenses and zero regrets. It does all of those and has IS. I hate bokeh it still has it a lot of but I can manage that. Seriously it counts all of the prime lenses and has IS which is fantastic. Simply fantastic IS. And lens is dead silent compared to primes. And for R8 body it weights nothing compared to L lenses. I don't have any negative to say this lens. It really feels that it is made and designed in 2024. No plastic feelings either it is made with good materials and feels great in hand. Only when I change of this lens is for my 100-400 telephoto. You can carry this whole day. Yes it was expensive and I got protector for it but worth every euro because I'm out of the need to change lenses now.

    • @vinvanid
      @vinvanid หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@juhaaavalaakso455 what about the corner at 70mm, is it really bad ?

    • @mhabuoi
      @mhabuoi 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Same for me. After using this lens for a month, I sold all my prime lenses. Now I only carry this 28-70 and the 100-500. Absolutely fantastic combo for traveling along with the R8.

  • @z8318
    @z8318 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    yessss
    babe wake up Christopher Frost posted

  • @Wistbacka
    @Wistbacka หลายเดือนก่อน +76

    Can't believe they charge 1200 pounds and still continue with their ancient antics of not including a lens hood for non-L lenses. Come on Canon! It costs you 3 quid max per hood!

    • @EdvardKALEN
      @EdvardKALEN หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      You calculated it wrong. The lens hood not included will give them +$35 each.

    • @geopapa80
      @geopapa80 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah that's clearly ridiculous

    • @TigaWould
      @TigaWould หลายเดือนก่อน

      It will be, remember that Canon often offers rebates between $200-$300 after 1-2 years of a lens being released. They do that for tax purposes for themselves in countries that allow companies to do that. It's why a couple years ago, the cost of certain lenses went up, only to see them have instant rebates later. So give it time, if you're an early adapter, you won't care about price, if you're price sensitive, you'll purchase this lens when it has instant rebates.

    • @Wistbacka
      @Wistbacka หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@TigaWould Stop trying to justify anti-consumer practices by companies.
      It is the same with samsung and apple and their ridiculous dongle crusade and now also charger crusade
      Canon needs to stop doing shit like this, and also open up for third party lens makers
      Sony needs to stop firmware nerfing stuff; especially on their flagship models, and also allow for third party teleconverters and 15+ fps shooting.
      I have no idea what Nikon needs... Panasonic needs to further upgrade their phase contrast AF and make a small m4/3 camera
      Fuji just aces it, except their prices...

    • @todanrg3
      @todanrg3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Costs £3 to make but they can sell it for £60. Where is the business if they give it for free?

  • @xPhilz0r
    @xPhilz0r 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Thanks for including the R7 in your tests

  • @rdog77
    @rdog77 หลายเดือนก่อน +78

    100% with that the price should be under $1000. I think this lend should be somewhere between $700 and $800 max maybe after a few years. I’m very happy with the Tamron version over on the Sony side.

    • @jw48335
      @jw48335 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      The comparable Sigma 28-70mm and Tamron 28-75mm clock in at $800 and $700 for Sony, so I don't feel too upset at a $300 premium vs Sigma, since this RF lens is optically superior and adds stabilization. I'll be buying it to pair with an R8. I needed a video lens with more light gathering and less weight vs the 24-105mm RF L.

    • @swawekvandermeer99
      @swawekvandermeer99 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Mirrorless is more a marketing joke than a technical innovation. I should both on Nikon. The Tamron 24-70 f2.8 on dslr was maybe the sharpest in it's range and was $800.

    • @jw48335
      @jw48335 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@swawekvandermeer99 You're citing prices from almost a decade ago...

    • @jw48335
      @jw48335 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      And for those citing prices from years ago that don't understand inflation and what's happened in the world the last couple of years, this release price is actually about equal to what the Tamron lens was released at.

    • @answeris4217
      @answeris4217 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They often bring out the same lenses for EF mount a few months later. Not saying that EF is better than the RF mount but I enjoy being able to us an EF-RF adapter that also houses quick switch filters. So I can go without or on sunny days I can put a ND filter in and keep the aperture wide open.

  • @nolanberg1084
    @nolanberg1084 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    I'd love to see a comparison to the EF 24-70 f2.8 L ii for those of us adapting our EF lenes!

    • @appalingbehaviour
      @appalingbehaviour หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have the 24-70 f4 ii EF lens adapted onto R6, works perfectly fine so far😊 (don't know how it compares to the new lens, but hey, it's good as is!)

    • @Digi20
      @Digi20 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      i´d say similar sharpness at the long end, sharper at the wide end especially in the corners. its quite a nice upgrade especially when you count in size and weight.

    • @Amddurin
      @Amddurin หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@appalingbehaviour No you don’t - They never made a MK II of the f/4 version 😊

    • @appalingbehaviour
      @appalingbehaviour หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @Amddurin oh yes quite right! That's me having a daft moment 😁 it is indeed the mark I, if it can be called mark I without a mark ii existing!

    • @nolanberg1084
      @nolanberg1084 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Digi20you’re comparing this new lens to the EF 24-70 2.8 L ii? The weight alone would get me to switch if sharpness is comparable.

  • @ghalibsworld
    @ghalibsworld หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you for the review😃. I use the Canon R8 with the RF24-105 IS STM and RF24mm F1.8 IS STM for my product photography and Vlog. I am thinking of getting the RF28-70mm F2.8. Canon could provide us with a hood or fix the price at 999 USD. However, at the wider end, Canon also needs a budget zoom lens like the RF15-30mm F2.8. The APS-C needs a good kit lens instead of a night-blind RFS 18-45mm F4.5-6.3.

  • @GocNhin1989
    @GocNhin1989 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I just sold my old friend 24-105 F4 L to buy this len and very happy with it.
    It matches all my needs: sharp, compact and lightweight

  • @wadez1000
    @wadez1000 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Been waiting for this review.

    • @CZOV
      @CZOV หลายเดือนก่อน

      Me 2

  • @jeanjuniorjean-louis6442
    @jeanjuniorjean-louis6442 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Watching this Video while I have a sony Camera. Always look forward to what Chris has to say about new lenses. I purchased 3 lenses based on his reviews.

    • @verzivull
      @verzivull หลายเดือนก่อน

      canon still doesn't have samyang small collection, unfortunately. I wouldn't be that disappointed if I had picked sony several years ago

    • @jeanjuniorjean-louis6442
      @jeanjuniorjean-louis6442 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @verzivull My main decision when deciding what my first camera should be was the third party lens options. I have Tamron G2 28-75 and 70-180 brand new, Sigma 35mm 1.4, Samyang 18mm 2.8. Just imagine how much I would spend in lenses to get the same level or performance with Canon; it would be ridiculously expensive.

    • @TigaWould
      @TigaWould หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@verzivull Canon has an entire EF-Lineup that can be adapted (both Canon and 3rd party lenses), if you look at the comments section, you'll see that there are a lot of Canon RF body shooters that are fine with adapting lenses. I don't think 3rd party lenses matter to Canon shooters as much as 3rd party RF lenses mean to Sony Shooters, because most of the times in the comments section of any videos, it's Sony shooters that are commenting more on Canon's lack of RF lenses more than Canon shooters are commenting on Canon's lack of 3rd party RF lenses. lol

    • @fotografalexandernikolis
      @fotografalexandernikolis หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@TigaWould Canon doesn't have anything like the Sigma 14mm 1.4, Viltrox 16 1.8 or Tamron 35-150. And then the fact that there is nothing in-between the half-*ssed RF 50 1.8 and 50 1.4 VCM or 50 1.2, or between 85 f2 and 85 1.2, while all other brands have full sets of in-between options. Your comment builds on the fallacy that allowing 3rd party lenses would somehow be a compromise for Canon or that 3rd party lenses are mutually exclusive to 1st party ones. I'm still waiting for a Canon apologist to provide an actual sensible argument against 3rd party lenses that aren't based on outright false logic.
      The funniest thing is that the large lens selection and excellent range of 3rd party options was touted as the most attractive factor for Canon EF during the DSLR era. Now that it has turned to the complete opposite, apologists are suddenly flip-flopping to twist the lens limitations as some kind of exclusive luxury. Oh and this so supposedly superior brand is also the only one to not include the lens hood, when even Chinese lenses do.

    • @jeanjuniorjean-louis6442
      @jeanjuniorjean-louis6442 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am just a photography novice but I would have a hard time believing that old Canon EF lenses adapted to RF bodies can give the same level of performance as the latest third party lenses on Sony. Just my opinion.

  • @RealRaynedance
    @RealRaynedance หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    Kudos to Canon, they made a lens that covers a full frame sensor at the wide end.

    • @hoatd1993
      @hoatd1993 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Lol 🤣

    • @petrpohnan875
      @petrpohnan875 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Blah blah, same as all their other lenses...

    • @EdvardKALEN
      @EdvardKALEN หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Moreover, it is obvious that she barely does this.

    • @dima1353
      @dima1353 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Not really. Correcting profile is quite severe and cuts a lot. Tamron and Sigma is much straighter

    • @RealRaynedance
      @RealRaynedance หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dima1353 Oh believe me I still think it has way too much distortion, but at least the corners aren't completely black on the wide end if you for some reason decided not to correct it.

  • @kellenholt6655
    @kellenholt6655 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    The bar for this lens category (in my view) is the Tamron 28-75mm f2.8 G2 for Sony/Nikon, and especially if they are going to price their option at $1k+, Canon needed to exceed the performance of that lens. Based on this review, it looks like they've fallen a bit short. It's disappointing that Canon continues to fall behind in the market when it comes to mid-range lens options for RF. As more time goes on, Sony and now Nikon's decision to open up their mounts to third parties looks like it will pay major dividends for them. If you're a mid-range shooter, the lens options for both E mount and now Z mount are really compelling, while Canon basically wants you to fork out more money for L series lenses if you want anything beyond a kit lens.

    • @3sgtepwnzr
      @3sgtepwnzr หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Agreed, granted price shift here and there but the Tamron G2 can be had for 600. Even at equal performance, 1000 is too much for this performance. Looks good though but canon users are mostly tied into canon's variety of lenses. Canon has some of the best L lenses but can't be spoken in the same subject as this "budget" lens.

  • @krzysztofjaskiewicz6856
    @krzysztofjaskiewicz6856 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the full review!
    I'm thinking about buying this one or the 24-105 f4 and I think I'll simply wait for the price of this lens to drop a bit.
    About the review itself, it was a bit speedy compared to other reviews from you, and I hope it's not because you're getting stressed or something.
    I appreciate your work very much and I wish you all the best!

  • @shonen84
    @shonen84 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Having been a years-long, happy user of an R5-F2 28-70 - this f2.8 is a third the price, weight and girth. It’s a no brainer on the R5 and R6, especially for travel. It’s ridiculously good, really

  • @kevindiossi
    @kevindiossi หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This lens will hopefully be considered for inclusion as a “kit” lens moving forward for all cameras like the R8 and R6…heck, even the R5 Mark II wouldn’t be hurt by this being a kit option. I’ve really enjoyed it a lot and I truthfully think it’s a magnificent alternative for users who possibly favor more budget friendly options, or even professionals looking for a smaller lens to bring around. I preordered one up at launch and have been very happy with this lens. Especially considering that this uses the same filter size as the new VCM primes, 67mm. Meaning I can toss this in my small sling back with the RF 35mm and have a pretty great combo…but once that 24mm and 50mm come out, I may have to consider what other lenses need to go! I’m really enjoying the balance of size/weight with this and the 35mm. It’s almost like these are the first focus that Canon made on delivering very small and light quality optics.

  • @salipander6570
    @salipander6570 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I wonder which affordable lens is good enough for the hi-res APS-C sensor of the R7. Many reviews give disappointing results and it seems only very good primes are a fit for the R7. Then I wonder if the R7's 32 Mpixel is useful at all in practice for the budget it lives in. Isn't 24 Mp an APS-C sweet spot then and the best resolution to do tests at? For hi-res the step is to go to full frame 45 Mp. There the budget allows expensive good lenses too.

  • @larvenfritson
    @larvenfritson หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Not including a lens hood should be criminal. But that's Canon for you.

    • @todanrg3
      @todanrg3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I agree. Asking £1200 for a lens like this without the hood and a £10 pouch is criminal.

  • @cesarebonazza
    @cesarebonazza หลายเดือนก่อน

    You are very smart and you your lenses , I use my 28 pancake RF ,40 mm Ef 2.8 with RF Adapter ( this lens is something else !!! ) and the RF 85 f2.0 mm ( best for the money ) this are my 3 favorite street lenses. I'm thing adding the Laowa 15. F5.0 cupcake pancake etc.. for RF mount and that will finalize my lightweight setup. Great reviews as usual thank you.

  • @lagniluca
    @lagniluca หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I have the older version, the EF 28-70 f/2.8L.It's my most used and beloved lens. When I will switch to the mirrorless, this will be the first lens I will buy, the second will be the 28-70 f/2 L

    • @JagaimoNeko
      @JagaimoNeko หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      First gen? I also have it. IMO the best zoom the humanity ever made.

  • @mb-watches
    @mb-watches หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for the review, sold my r8, it would have been a good lens for this one, bit pricey. Went back to 100% apsc as sigma does offer now good options for canon. That said: if I would go back to Canon FF, this would be my goto lens. Compact, good enough image and video quality. The one and done small travel lens. Not bad. Thanks for sharing and have a great week, Chris 😊🙏🏻

    • @marcelo_afonso
      @marcelo_afonso หลายเดือนก่อน

      about the "good enough image and video quality"... good enough??... Jesus...

    • @mb-watches
      @mb-watches หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ more than enough…

    • @fotografalexandernikolis
      @fotografalexandernikolis หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mb-watches Or just switch to a brands that gives you a greater lens selection like Nikon or Sony.

    • @mb-watches
      @mb-watches หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ Right now I have all I need with canon. I considered especially Sony. But what kept me continuing with canon is the better screen (colour accuracy: you get what you see), better touchscreen and Menue structure. Better grips on the body, colour sience is better too. I do get to my final results faster, with canon, especially as I do a lot of run and gun. And especially with the sigma lenses now available, I do not need more. 😊
      And size is a big topic, too. Sony FF bodies are smaller, ok, but lenses, especially when we compare apples with apples, you end up with a small body and a huge lens.

  • @bonedale
    @bonedale หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Curious how this compares to the RF 24-105 L since they are really close in price. Guess I’ll have to watch that now for a refresh

  • @Digi20
    @Digi20 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If i would not already own the RF 24-70 2.8 i would prefer this lens now. frankly the image quality is absolutely more than fine enough for what a standard zoom should do for me, its also lighter, smaller and despite the high price tag only costs half of the bigger brother. they even included IS which is very handy vor video work on an R5C or lower end R8 and on a gimbal the lower weight is also very welcome. i would actually be tempted to sell the 24-70 if its price stays relatively high and the 28-70 can be had for less than 1000€ at some point.

  • @TheRealTonyCastillo
    @TheRealTonyCastillo หลายเดือนก่อน

    Appreciate your time reviewing this lens. Just doesn't make send to buy it when the 24-105L is like 100.00 more. Yeah, the 2.8 is nice but for the money I'll manage with the F4 and enjoy the range more of the RF24-105L. Canon was out of their mind when making and pricing this lens...

  • @EXkurogane
    @EXkurogane หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm interested, but won't pay the full MSRP price. Will wait for special seasonal discounts or even used copies. This should do well on my 24mp R8. On R7 it's soft probably because the lens cannot resolve higher megapixel count, as in higher pixel density. 32mp on R7 is the equivalent of 83mp full frame.

  • @TerryManning
    @TerryManning หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hadn't planned to so much as touch this lens until I saw your review. Thanks!

  • @Axonteer
    @Axonteer หลายเดือนก่อน

    While i would not trade in my 24-105 f4 , i like this lense. I own the 24-70 2.8 and thought looooooooong and haaaaard about either the 2.8 or the 28-70 f2 and from shooting a couple events and a wedding with the 2.8 i think this one is a nice choice if someone has a .... say R6 and wants something with 2.8 but not as big or as weighty. Kinda like a travel lense for someone not yet that addicted to be willing to carry around the heavier lenses. I think the size and weight is something that multiplies its features and you need to use it to apprechiate that.

  • @Augnos
    @Augnos หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I would love a comparison of this lens with some of the more popular EF 24-70mm F2.8 lenses (Sigma, Tamron, etc), since they are all roughly in the same price range.

    • @cas818028
      @cas818028 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same here. I have the Tamron G2 and I keep wondering omit I should sell it and “upgrade “ to this

    • @mountainskyaerialphotograp3921
      @mountainskyaerialphotograp3921 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cas818028 I just priced the Sigma 18-50 (28-80), and it's coming in at $514.00 or about half the Canon lens.

    • @franka6515
      @franka6515 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@cas818028 Very good point. Like others, I do not need this since I have the EF adapter and other lenses. But if I didn't, it is still a pass for me because of its performance, price, low saturation, and poor contrast. Only PRO is size.

  • @classic.cameras
    @classic.cameras หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I was going to buy this lens when it was announced for my wife. I am a very good husband. Then I saw the price tag in Canada ($1500+tax) and I am NOT THAT GOOD, nor rich. Yikes! Besides size there is nothing wrong with her Canon EF 24-70mm f4 IS L. That lens besides kinda slow is still amazing in 2024.

  • @JamalPhoenix
    @JamalPhoenix หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What are we thinking Chris 28-70 2.8 or 24-105 f4?

  • @alanbell5068
    @alanbell5068 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I bought this lens in preference to the 24 to 105 f4L because of its faster aperture, smaller size and lighter weight. I use it for hillwalking and travel. It never gets left behind for these reasons. After 3 weeks I am delighted with the results on my rp and r6 cameras. Much better than my old ef 24 to 105 f4L mk1.

    • @mareksykora3891
      @mareksykora3891 หลายเดือนก่อน

      no big surprice... the old 24-105 was really poor lens, not sharp enough on any aperture...

  • @sirwillemgaming9686
    @sirwillemgaming9686 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Expensive but that AF is lightning fast. 😮😮😮

  • @tw06le1
    @tw06le1 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Seems tempting, but every zoom lens I've ever owned except the 70-200 II L 2.8 broke in some weird way, Either ribbon cable or zoom ring. I even have the last EF 24-70 2.8 & the aperture blades stopped working when I mostly shoot indoors & mostly food. Hence why all my lenses except the 8-15 f4 are Primes.

  • @mordavian
    @mordavian หลายเดือนก่อน

    2:39 At the starting point there is still some space until 28 mm. Why?

    • @christopherfrost
      @christopherfrost  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      As I mentioned in the video, so the lens can collapse down to a smaller size

  • @shichaosun3298
    @shichaosun3298 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    wonder how this lens compares to EF 24-70mm 2.8 ii

  • @gregmonforton4103
    @gregmonforton4103 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I won’t be giving up my 24-105 but with its size, range, and aperture this 28-70 might be the perfect travel lens.

  • @ritrattoaziendale
    @ritrattoaziendale หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Chris, would you swap the EF 24-70 f2.8 II L for this one? (considering that I absolutely don't care for the 24vs28 mm loss). I was thinking about doing it as soon as the RF's price drops a bit, but those corners at 70mm scare me; it can be ok not to be perfect wide open, as in real life scenario that part would be out of focus anyway, but what I don't like is corners never get better even when stopping down, which isn't good in the studio when I may need good corner to corner sharpness for certain close-up portraits and /or details.

    • @christopherfrost
      @christopherfrost  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      To be honest, I probably would make the swap. I'd miss 24mm but I'd enjoy the weight and size saving

  • @tintin69rr
    @tintin69rr 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That looks quite well I was tempted with a preowned ef 24-70 f2.8 L ii adapted onto the R6ii &R would like to know which way you would go for weddings and portrait shoots along side 85mm f1.2

  • @alandargie9358
    @alandargie9358 หลายเดือนก่อน

    good point at the end with the three primes as an alternative. Difficult decision! Nice video, thanks.

  • @sethmoyer
    @sethmoyer หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have an EOS RP and this lens on such a small camera body is appealing to me for travel, it packs a pretty good punch for its size! I wish it was $800-900 though

  • @vivalasvegas702
    @vivalasvegas702 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Its sunstar capability at f8-f22 is perfect for xmas markets. Hopefully canon announces a 14-28 f2.8 and 70-180 f2.8 for around $1K to complete these affordable trinity for the masses.

  • @CorneliusCND
    @CorneliusCND หลายเดือนก่อน

    Reminds me quite a bit of the 17-55mm f/2.8 IS. I think the IS really is a critical feature to justify the price, actually pretty rare on a 2.8 standard zoom. Still though... hugely pricey for a lens I'd feel a little insure using for pro work as it looks very budget.

  • @shang-hsienyang1284
    @shang-hsienyang1284 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not the 28-70mm review I was expecting, but still, a very compelling option.

  • @TimLucasdesign
    @TimLucasdesign หลายเดือนก่อน

    I feel like a lot of people will cross shop this with the similarly priced 24-105 F4 L. Which would you prefer?

  • @MasterDia
    @MasterDia หลายเดือนก่อน

    怎么和 适马28-70 2.8的结果这么像

  • @yuanhang6651
    @yuanhang6651 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Compared with the Canon RF 35 f1.8, which lens is more suitable for street photography?

  • @adrianrcarr
    @adrianrcarr หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is the corner softness seen on the R7 at wider angles visible on full frame images further away on the corner? The results suggest you would expect to see it go sharp -> soft -> sharp moving from the centre to the corners?!

    • @christopherfrost
      @christopherfrost  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It's vital to remember that a 32.5mp APS-C sensor is much higher resolution than a 45mp full-frame one - the sensor is so much denser. That's why the corners / midregions don't look soft on the FF camera: they're not soft enough to be a problem at that resolution

    • @adrianrcarr
      @adrianrcarr หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ True, though that doesn’t explain why the 28mm & 45mm corners are “poor” on the APSC, while on full frame it seems that 70mm is poorest. Pixel density doesn’t really explain that “inversion” in performance.
      It suggests that sharpness/contrasts aren’t monotonic moving away from the optical axis. I’ll see if the MTF shows any evidence of this.
      Thanks very much for the review! I would love to see a comparison with the 24-105mm f4 and the 24-70mm f2.8. I’ve never really loved the 24-105mm f4 and I’m tempted to change to something more “fun”.

    • @christopherfrost
      @christopherfrost  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@adrianrcarr It does explain the inversion: at 28mm and 45mm the midregion and corners are sharp enough to satisfy a 45mp FF sensor, but not quite enough for the 32mp APS-C sensor. But at 70mm, it's the other way round, because the midregion is sharp enough for 32mp APS-C, but the very edges on FF (which are cropped out on APS-C) are a lot softer, which is what shows up on full-frame (if that makes sense!). All of this to say...never assume that the APS-C sweet spot advantage will automatically apply! Glad you enjoyed the video.

    • @TradeshowThomas
      @TradeshowThomas หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      could be a winner for lighter capacity gimbals event work

    • @a_commonman
      @a_commonman หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@christopherfrost I notice almost all the new lenses struggle on the R7. So now I am planning to sell my R7 and buy a FF. The new sigma RF 56mm also doesn't perform well on R7 while on Sony it is razor sharp from your reviews. But I wonder how the optics will work on the other fuji apsc cameras that have above 40 megapixels with higher resolution than canon R7😢😢.

  • @PhilippeDHooghe
    @PhilippeDHooghe หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ah! Here is Chris again with his brutal honesty! You are still my light in the dark when it comes to lens testing. James Reader liked the lens a lot, as you do, and also found it a compelling proposition, though on the expensive side. This lens has the same price range as the 24-105 f/4 L. Say one made up ones mind about zoom or primes and decided zoom is the answer, the question here would be: what is the better choice, this 28-70 f/2.8 or the 24-105 f/4 L ? The 28-70 probably has the better IQ, is the brighter also. And would also probably work better on the R7. The L is more versatile. And on my R8 it works really well. If I am shooting portraits for showing on an iPhone screen or in a photobook, I will probably not even see the difference. But granted, if I wanted to make a protrait of my wife to print on A3, the 28-70 would be ahead... but my wife won't allow me to enlarge her wrinkels like that anyway :-).
    So Chris, comparison video?

  • @CHANCHALADHIKARY
    @CHANCHALADHIKARY 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Canon 28-70 2.8 vs 24-105 f4 ? Which is the best?

  • @rui-uh5ib
    @rui-uh5ib 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice review as always... at 35 mm the IQ is similar to the RF 35 1.8 in your opinion? I'm thinking to sell 35 and 85 and switch to this zoom

  • @LockLT
    @LockLT หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you explain why lens is sharper on higher resolution FF sensor vs lower resolution crop sensor?

    • @dixinggao7178
      @dixinggao7178 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because the EOS R7 has a higher pixel density than the R5, despite having less total pixels.
      Canon's APS-C crop factor is 1.6x, shooting in APS-C mode cuts the EOS R5's 45MP sensor down to a 17MP output. EOS R7's 32MP sensor is almost double the resolution. Put it another way, if you scale the R7's sensor up to full frame size, the resolution would jump to 82MP.

  • @toufik94
    @toufik94 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Could you do an extensive comparison between this lens and the RF 24-105mm F4 L? The lenses might not be entirely the same, but their similiar prices do make it an interesting comparison.

  • @AndrewNorton-m5z
    @AndrewNorton-m5z หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is that the old DigitalRev jingle at the end of the video ?

  • @ghilesbardi
    @ghilesbardi หลายเดือนก่อน

    This will be perfect for my R8

  • @michaelbell75
    @michaelbell75 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks. I just got the R7 and Im a bit concerned about how poorly RF and RF-S lenses perform on it, even the higher end ones. Every review of yours I have seen with these lenses on the R7 perform like crap to be honest, soft in the middle and terrible in the corners, even when stopping down. I shot with my new Sigma RF 18-50 2.8 and the new RF 30 1.4 and honestly, the 18-50 looked better on my R100. Are there any lenses that perform well on the R7? Im beginning to think Canon really screwed up with this sensor. I think I may be returning this R7, shame.

  • @answeris4217
    @answeris4217 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't understand why they went away from the 24-70 range. I know it's only 4mm but for me I mostly go ether all the way to the widest or all the way zoomed in and 24mm seems to me like a great place to start with landscape.

    • @narongpontemcharonsub2566
      @narongpontemcharonsub2566 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because people like me rarely use 24.

    • @answeris4217
      @answeris4217 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@narongpontemcharonsub2566 what people???
      I use it all the time.

  • @professionaldrainage1487
    @professionaldrainage1487 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can this lense work with the Eos rebel T7 ?

  • @paigeofstylez
    @paigeofstylez 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So basically i should buy all ef lenses at this point, if i dont have in camera correction 🤔🤷🏿

  • @deanjelcic9299
    @deanjelcic9299 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Christopher, would you recomend this lens or 24-105 f/4 for my Canon R6MII?
    Really strugling to decide 🙈

  • @petertakov
    @petertakov หลายเดือนก่อน

    Christopher, you surely have considered making your database of test images available to the public?

  • @rbos6001
    @rbos6001 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice that you named the alternative primes at the end. Already own the rf 35mm and 85mm. Looking to upgrade the kit lens 24-105mm f4-7.1. This could be it or indeed get the 28mm and 50mm primes from Canon. Seems this one has faster autofocus or is there no difference? If it has I'm thinking of purchasing this lens when it drops in price.

  • @nageshj-v9w
    @nageshj-v9w หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello Chris please do review on fujifilm 16-55 f2.8 mark 2

  • @frankdudenhausen2697
    @frankdudenhausen2697 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for your very detailed review! How good is the weather sealing? You mentioned that it's sealed around the rear and the control rings. Does it mean that the extending lens barrel and the switches are not sealed? How does it compare to the weather sealing of e.g. the 24-105 f/4 L?

  • @sircas1224
    @sircas1224 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nice review as always! Looks like a fun lens, and I was not convinced when you posted your preview either. Now it's looking like a great lens to just walk around with. I find corner sharpness at 70mm to not be as important as at wider focal lengths. Might add this to my xmas shopping list, but not recommended for APSC lol

    • @Vantrakter
      @Vantrakter หลายเดือนก่อน

      That depends a bit on the application. I find myself using my "standard" zoom for landscapes more than bokeh style shots at its long end and sharpness across the frame at least stopped down is quite important. This lens seems a bit dubious in that regard.

  • @ScottBasu
    @ScottBasu หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    A different reviewer did a very detailed four way comparison between this, the RF 24-105 4L, RF 24-70 2.8L, and RF 28-70 2.0L. The results were that this new lens basically edged out all of the L’s in terms of sharpness! And it stomped the RF 24-105L, which kind of shocked me TBH, as previous head-to-head comparisons indicated that lens is more or less in line with the other L’s in terms of sharpness. I am suspicious that his copy had become decentered / soft over time, though, and intend to find out for myself what the difference is. That, and vs. the RF 85 2.0 to determine which one is the best budget portrait RF lens right now. Fun times!

    • @irishRocker1
      @irishRocker1 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think i saw that, do you have a link? I saw something similar that said the 24-105L they usually remember being sharper than the one in the review so said they cant rule out that being a bad copy. how does decentering happen? is it a risk on a new lens? how can you tell or check? For example, I have heard some say this lens is too soft in the corners at 28mm F2.8. If you ordered online, you would think the lens performs poorly if you didnt know

    • @ScottBasu
      @ScottBasu หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@irishRocker1 That's James Reader's recent video.

  • @Magnetron692
    @Magnetron692 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Chris, many thanks for this review! I purchased the Canon EF counterpart in top mint condition, however without IS. I’m very happy with it. Could you make a review of this one, too? Best wishes from Germany, Ralf

  • @megadjc192
    @megadjc192 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I agree that this lens is mostly for FF users. Specifically, the R8. Though the R6(II) and R5(II) look fine as well.

  • @nilpatel9096
    @nilpatel9096 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    We need rf mount tamron 28-75 f2.8 G2 to release 😭😭

    • @hoatd1993
      @hoatd1993 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not until Canon sells enough of their lenses.

  • @verzivull
    @verzivull หลายเดือนก่อน

    now this is a good lens for traveling, although I would still use it as a backup, that would lie down in the hotel, waiting for the next day, just in case my 50 or 35 1.8 wouldn't be enough

  • @matthiasglanznig9733
    @matthiasglanznig9733 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looks good, especially since the bokeh seems and it works well at night. Still, all things considered it really does seem a bit overpriced. Great review as always !!!!

  • @livejames9374
    @livejames9374 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don’t get the focus breathing comment. Zoomed it focus breathing was similar to zoomed out???

  • @Whodini6likesSharpGF
    @Whodini6likesSharpGF หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sigma has to offer an affordable 28-70 f2.8 lens as well, belonging to the contemporary series, with good sharpness in relation to its price for E and L mount

    • @ritrattoaziendale
      @ritrattoaziendale หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tamron has a cheap but good 28-75 f2.8 if only Canon would allow (even if I'd prefer to get the Tamron/Samyang 35-150 f2-2.8 as it would suit better for my needs)

  • @abram-green
    @abram-green หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm really hoping this one goes on sale for maybe $50-$100 off on black Friday. Otherwise may hold off. I think the $1100 is an alright price, but it could be better. A $999 price tag would make this a lot better deal.

  • @GungKrisna12
    @GungKrisna12 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Imagine if that lens is offered as a kit on select camera bodies

  • @petermaidment1175
    @petermaidment1175 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In the UK you can get this lens for under £900, which i think is great value.

  • @jkteddy77
    @jkteddy77 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Giving the 24-70 f2.8 a big run for its money

  • @nightdonutstudio
    @nightdonutstudio หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nowadays diffraction kick in faster. Back the dslr days, f11 is when lens reach best sharpness.

    • @quikee9195
      @quikee9195 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's because the sensors are higher in resolution. On a 24MP the diffraction starts at f/11, while on a 45MP sensor it is already diffraction limited at f/11.

  • @paigeofstylez
    @paigeofstylez หลายเดือนก่อน

    IT'S ABOUT TIME 🤷🏿

  • @pauldeakinvic
    @pauldeakinvic หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good review. I opted for a second hand (excellent condition) 24-105 F4 for £900. This 28-70 is overpriced.

  • @gtaliano
    @gtaliano หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    At that price I'd go for a RF 24-105 F4 L all day

    • @sethmoyer
      @sethmoyer หลายเดือนก่อน

      The 24-105 is like $1300 these days even though it launched at $800...

    • @answeris4217
      @answeris4217 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      But you are getting an f4 not an F2.8. There's a huge difference there.

    • @ilmatanela1816
      @ilmatanela1816 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@answeris4217there 's a similar difference at 24 and 120 mm. To each his own.

    • @answeris4217
      @answeris4217 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ilmatanela1816 It's a significant difference. It a full stop so it lets in double the light. You can double your Shutter or half your ISO settings.

    • @ilmatanela1816
      @ilmatanela1816 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@answeris4217 yep, you are right and I agree. I have two 24/70 f2.8 and the 24/120 f4 (f-mount). I know the difference but I can understand who would prefer the wider focal range

  • @undifinder6643
    @undifinder6643 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I hope that more people buy this actually decent STM weather sealed lens, it will push Canon to put weather sealed in more STM lens.

  • @fuzzytalz
    @fuzzytalz หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good to see Canon is digging in on overcharging for lenses with under corrected geometric distortion. This lens is worth $800 max.

    • @ilmatanela1816
      @ilmatanela1816 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'd say you are generous

    • @Skux720
      @Skux720 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Corrections are done digitally and distortion and vignetting are marginal once applied.

    • @fuzzytalz
      @fuzzytalz หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Skux720 If the build quality is average, the materials average and the optical quality average, what are you paying such a hefty premium for? Personally, I prefer the lenses I purchase perform well optically rather than rely on digital chicanery, which in my estimation limits the longevity of the lens and, thus, its value.

  • @80-80.
    @80-80. หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    No surprise, Canon only makes beta lenses available for initial launch videos to avoid revealing their crazy in-camera corrections.

    • @TigaWould
      @TigaWould หลายเดือนก่อน

      that's correct! that's like Sony doing the same thing with their Mirrorless lenses being corrected by in body correction (the new Sony G-Master 28-70 f/2 is almost $3000 before taxes and does most of the correcting in body and automatically in post with adobe Lightroom). the only lenses in the mirrorless world for Sony and Canon that don't use in-body corrections are the L-Series and G-Master Primes. the same can be said for Nikon, FujiFilm, OM-Systems, Panasonic and so on. this is the norm if you want a mirrorless system and lighter, smaller glass. so anything too small or too good to be true more than likely is! because the physics in creating these lenses hasn't changed! So you have to factor what others things could possibly be different!

  • @NOM4D20
    @NOM4D20 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I see no point of picking this over the 24-105 F4L. It's priced similarly, and 1 Stop of light cannot outweight the wider + longer focal lenght. I mainly use my 24-105 at daytime (for low light, I use 1.4 primes). I was waiting for this lens, as it war romoured previously, but for this price, it's a huge let down. For 600-700€, I would buy one, but for this price, it's definitely not worth it

  • @k8tv546
    @k8tv546 หลายเดือนก่อน

    tamron 28-75g1 without purple fringing

  • @LestatFGC
    @LestatFGC หลายเดือนก่อน

    Aww man I wanted this lens for my R7 :(

    • @MosleydollMUA
      @MosleydollMUA หลายเดือนก่อน

      Me too !

    • @irishRocker1
      @irishRocker1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have an R8 with kit lens, and the RF100-400mm. I was looking into this lens. I also considered maybe buying an R7 in the future, thinking it would be handy to buy body only cos I could transfer all my lenses etc. but not this lens it seems. It's not really a problem though cos I was considering the R7 for its crop factor with the RF100-400mm for wildlife photography. Maybe an R50 would be enough for that purpose too though. But i'm getting ahead of myself. R8 is enough for now, considering i just came from a 12yr old Canon 600D lol

  • @TheHeffNerr
    @TheHeffNerr หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did you forget to mention that it is sealed?

    • @christopherfrost
      @christopherfrost  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      No, I mentioned it

    • @TheHeffNerr
      @TheHeffNerr หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@christopherfrost Oh, I forgot to listen to it. ❤

  • @17an28
    @17an28 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Finally!

  • @jaimejrking
    @jaimejrking หลายเดือนก่อน

    I Love this lens on my C70! 15-35 F2.8 + 28-70 F2.8 is a Dream setup!

  • @neilybobmojo_railfanning
    @neilybobmojo_railfanning หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Canon made a great $600 lens, the extra $500 is for the RF tax.

  • @a_commonman
    @a_commonman หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Canon 50mm 1.4 is priced above £1500, No affordable RF 85mm with f1.4 and RF 28-70 is priced above £1200 with no good optics for R7. I crucified myself choosing Canon and buried in Canon's money vanishing grave ...Now, It is time to ressurrect into Sony's Affordable Heaven❤❤.. #goodbye_canon😢😢

  • @JDReach
    @JDReach หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very strange, my copy is sharper at 70mm and softer at 28mm, anyway very good good lens for the size.

  • @joaopaulo24816
    @joaopaulo24816 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    best sony 28-70 f2 gm o/

  • @H4GRlD
    @H4GRlD 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Feels too expensive for what's on offer. Maybe in 1-2 years we'll see good deals on it in the used market.

  • @darrin2382
    @darrin2382 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How much??????????????????????????????????????????

    • @christopherfrost
      @christopherfrost  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Watch the video, and you'll find out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @darrin2382
      @darrin2382 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@christopherfrost exactly - far tooooooo much!!!

  • @billzidis2656
    @billzidis2656 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good performance but not for £1000. I thought it was a £500 lens. Better the ef adapter with ef glass

    • @vinvanid
      @vinvanid หลายเดือนก่อน

      is there any 2.8 lens at this focal length with IS and priced 500 ??
      you're expecting too much and unrealistic😆

  • @anthonydiiorio
    @anthonydiiorio หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    $500 Canadian more than the Tamron 28-75 f/2.8 G2, yet somehow worse image quality. Shame Canon still won't open the RF mount for full frame.

  • @SatanSupimpa
    @SatanSupimpa หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Always pissed me how Canon treats lens hood as a premium accessory.

  • @David-ee9zg
    @David-ee9zg หลายเดือนก่อน

    If only the manufacturers would stop issuing new lenses then this guy wouldn't post a new video every five minutes.

  • @brugj03
    @brugj03 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Is it me or does it zoom even cheaper than it looks.
    That`s some cheap ass looking lens with the huge barrel extention and the crappy zoom turn.