This, honestly, is very mild in comparison to how it usually is! I’m praising God! I think many people were able to hear the gospel and were able to ask our pastors good questions! We love our heckling neighbors and aren’t surprised! That’s who we are without Christ! May God have the glory after our church town meeting and May many neighbors come to Christ and join us!
@@jonmaster5000 It's likely BECAUSE he is approaching 70 that he is sharper. With age can come greater wisdom and we don't get dumber because we get older ;)
My husband and I were so impressed with how these pastors represented Christians well, and courageously engaged with the audience. Christ be glorified!
I attended UI but not Christ Church. I attended a 'Grill a Christian' hosted by some of these men around 2008. It was a real shot in the arm and had a dramatic impact on the trajectory of my life. So thankful for these men.
It’s those in chaos that need Christ! It’s usually quite a bit more distracting 😂 I think a lot of community members were able to ask questions and I think the gospel was clearly preached! To God be the glory!
Well done, Ben, Doug, and Toby! You all gave calm and careful Biblical responses. May our good and faithful Lord miraculously open the hearts of those in attendance to hear and respond to the Gospel! 🙏❤️
Let's see... The guys on the stage were courteous, respectful, controlled, honest, and unafraid. The children in the audience were obnoxious, aggressive, dishonest, and clearly desperately fearful. So who were the bad guys? Side note...three guesses which two little princes weren't spanked enough as toddlers and, to this day, act out like out-of-control two-year-olds.
Seriously. My 4 year old will sit and listen, even when they’re mad. Lack of emotional and self control is embarrassing to witness for an hour straight. Every statement any speaker made the one woman just could not keep herself from shouting a “WHAT!” or some other nonsense. Even when Doug was making the point that they lack complete self control during the discipline part. Crazy.
@@michaellautermilch9185I believe they meant we as Christians aren't called to judge them as Christians, not that God will not judge them if they refuse to repent.
I wonder if Ligon Duncan considers it "Larping" if you put an add in the paper publishing your home phone number to debate abortion, furthermore having your wife answer that call unaware of such solicitation and taking care of business. Talk about being able to read the story you are in. Sounds like you have to wake up pretty early in the morning to get one over on Nancy, but it's just "Larping".
This was wonderful. I'm so impressed with the focused yet relaxed & loving attitude these men of God showed the audience. I think something great happened here. It's hard to imagine anyone wouldn't love this fellowship under God.
We need more of this! The love, joy, peace, PATIENCE, KINDNESS, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self control displayed by all three of these men was exemplary. I grew up in a charismatic church with a weak foundation, so when my faith was challenged in college it crumbled and I became agnostic/atheist. Praise God for the men in my life who were willing to have reasoned conversations with me when I was a disagreeable atheist. All the interruptions really boil down to an inability to engage with the ideas, but these men did a great job of maintaining focus. Any ‘moral atheist’ willing to wrestle with the answer Doug provides 1:21:04 will not be able to maintain this position, you will either abandon morality or atheism.
@35:39 - Absolutely priceless and hilarious how perfectly on-cue that was... She literally proved his point in less than 5 seconds and didn't even realize it.
wow. This is great!! This is what sets Doug Wilson and Co. apart... their engagement with the public and/or opposition... courage...their depth of thinking, their demeanor, etc., etc. Also this is the perfect thing to watch while walking on a boring treadmill...
Every time I hear these men speak, my soul response with “yes!” So much wisdom and truth. Thank you for your faithfulness and frank speech, in spite of the outbursts!
At first I thought this was going to be an intra church Q and A but when I heard it was for the general public I literally went and had popcorn made for this.
It shocks me that so many young people don't have a phone and are unable to text. I mean that is amazing in today's society. Were they at some sort of Amish gathering, perhaps?
It was both a great blessing and a great frustration to watch this. However, I am very thankful to God for these men and their defense of the gospel against the wickedness gathered against them in that room that night.
This was the most mild U of I or town hall meeting with Pastor Wilson ever…. Even our Christmas caroling usually attracts more heckling! This was so greatly encouraging!!! I really think community members were listening and I’m praying they we’re being moved by the Holy Spirit!!!
Maybe it’s just the people I happened to be raised around, and surround myself with, but it’s crazy to hear adults that must immediately interject against anything they don’t like, constantly. Every breath one of the speakers took, someone in the crowd (sounded like mainly the same few) had to immediately shout their disagreement. I don’t know if it’s just the adderal induced anxiety they live with, total lack of any type of emotional control, or that their no-consequence discipline system obviously failed them. But it’s very annoying to listen to. Is it that hard to sit and listen to things you disagree with? You can’t even control yourself enough to behave like an adult?
Some advise from a former atheist and former leftist to the hecklers. There are people in the room who share your worldview. They went to something like this to learn more about the other side. Whenever you run your mouth, it pushes them to the other side. So as someone who opposes you, the hecklers, I want to thank them for doing what they do. You are the true MVPs here. 🤟 You rock
There is nothing more grating to the ears than a person who speaks even though they have nothing substantive to say. I am referring to the toddlers in the front row, if that wasn't apparent.
I’ve never heard adults who couldn’t let a half of a statement go without interjecting some nonsense. They don’t even realize how embarrassed they should be, which makes it even more cringey to listen to.
If you are offended by Doug even suggestion that there could have been anything good about a slave, master relationship, dont' read Booker T Washingtons Up From Slavery. Now, if you want to get your head out of your self important, self righteous, ....behind, and hear from someone who was a slave, then, please please..read Up From Slavery.
There were slave owners who treated their “slaves” like family. In a time when negros couldn’t live independently in society they gave them their own homes on the family estate, had them attend family worship, and even reunited family members by buying for example a husband from another slave owner so that they could live as husband and wife. Spared no expense on doctors for them if they needed it. These were Christian people who lived out the Bible’s teachings of do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Many people chose to continue living with the same people who owned them after they were emancipated because they were treated so well and the quality of their lives was better where they were than on their own in society at that time.
@@cosmictreason2242 My son is going to trade school !!! My daughter is going to NSA, where these guys are !!! I won't be paying for woke college of any kind that is for sure.
@@LorinPartain while I'm not going to play at being farther right than everyone when i was born yesterday, i really do have legitimate concerns about the impact of college - of any kind - on 💃 and would advise against that, encouraging excellence in sewing, gardening, video editing, apologetics, general editing, flooring, etc - things that make er useful to a spouse. I believe the Bible implicitly forbids sending one's 💃s away from the home for any reason unless ' is living with relatives who are then the immediate authority over er. The damage that schooling does to a 💃 being able to cleave to a 👨 cannot be overstated, it's a distraction as well as a source of pride and independence and tempts to div ce. Over 90% of 💃 filers are degree holders. I would love to see statistics of filers who are also weekly attenders, as a control. But I'm not optimistic.
@@cosmictreason2242 College of any kind? Kids who want to do certain things in life NEED to have a college education, AND not all colleges are the denizens of the devil that many today are. I don't write it all off as you do, but I am very selective.
@@LorinPartain unless they want to be a cardiologist they don't. Living on campus is worse than commuting which is worse than online only but all of it leads to a puffed up false belief that only a man with a similar amount of time wasted in school or similar income level is worthy of her. It will lead her to still be single in her mid 30s, but I'm telling you it's completely avoidable. The woman was made to support the man's mission, not to have her own independent mission. Ask yourself, is your daughter pursuing her own mission or supporting your mission and setting herself up to support the mission of her husband? Not pie in the sky but at this very moment. This is what i meant by independence
Good stuff. I was a little disappointed by the amount of “inside baseball” questions that were fielded. But that’s most likely because I don’t know the nature or wording of the other questions being asked, although I’m sure some of the accusatory ones could have been distilled into a common thread of thought. Otherwise well done as always. Hoping the Lord gives us opportunity for things like this in the future here in West Virginia.
I remember watching this 2 years ago, sometimes I think I mess up but I don’t even though I do , especially the man walking out I remember that clearly, God definitely know the future
“And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.” Revelation 22:1 KJV You’re wrong
These hecklers are a perfect example of what happens when parents forgo disciplining their children.
This, honestly, is very mild in comparison to how it usually is! I’m praising God! I think many people were able to hear the gospel and were able to ask our pastors good questions! We love our heckling neighbors and aren’t surprised! That’s who we are without Christ! May God have the glory after our church town meeting and May many neighbors come to Christ and join us!
This kind of courage is rare today. Heckling is easy and cowardly. Pray for those angry lost young adults. They're grasping at air😣
Exactly my thoughts!
@@katherinewilliams4500 we pray daily for our town and unbelievers ❤️
Yes 😂
what a great heckler shut down "I serve a God of tolerance and you do not" Go Doug!
Doug is one of the sharpest Christian voices out there today! Given he is approaching 70, it’s quite impressive
@@jonmaster5000 It's likely BECAUSE he is approaching 70 that he is sharper. With age can come greater wisdom and we don't get dumber because we get older ;)
If a wise man has an argument with a fool,
the fool only rages and laughs, and there is no quiet.
My husband and I were so impressed with how these pastors represented Christians well, and courageously engaged with the audience. Christ be glorified!
I attended UI but not Christ Church. I attended a 'Grill a Christian' hosted by some of these men around 2008. It was a real shot in the arm and had a dramatic impact on the trajectory of my life. So thankful for these men.
I was there too!
No way! @@benjaminledford6111
What did they do? I'm not familiar
@@truthisbeautiful7492 Same thing as this video. Invited the curious and critical to ask their toughest questions.
It would do those ill-disciplined members of the audience well to take note of Shimei's lot!
Oh no it’s open to the public. Copious amounts of patience required.
Straight up! I even had to stop it a couple of times. 😑
@reformedsooner24 Hey I've seen you on another channel that was ripping on White!
This was so unbelievably mild! I’m so encouraged!
Respectfully, this was the point of the meeting. An open town hall style so the community could ask questions about our church.
@@lizakamomboyd6965 It's a great and necessary thing to be done! 😊 It's also the stark collision of Christ and chaos; and I'm no fan of chaos. ;)
Blown away by these Godly men’s patience and grace, INCREDIBLE job pastors!!!
This was an amazing display of Christianity in the public square.
Another perfect example of Christ or chaos 👌🏼.
It’s those in chaos that need Christ! It’s usually quite a bit more distracting 😂 I think a lot of community members were able to ask questions and I think the gospel was clearly preached! To God be the glory!
@lizakamomboyd6965 Yes, we all need Christ. Without him, we are all in chaos.
I am beyond grateful for these men and the ministry of Christ Church and King’s Cross.
Well done, Ben, Doug, and Toby! You all gave calm and careful Biblical responses. May our good and faithful Lord miraculously open the hearts of those in attendance to hear and respond to the Gospel! 🙏❤️
Let's see...
The guys on the stage were courteous, respectful, controlled, honest, and unafraid.
The children in the audience were obnoxious, aggressive, dishonest, and clearly desperately fearful.
So who were the bad guys?
Side note...three guesses which two little princes weren't spanked enough as toddlers and, to this day, act out like out-of-control two-year-olds.
Seriously. My 4 year old will sit and listen, even when they’re mad. Lack of emotional and self control is embarrassing to witness for an hour straight.
Every statement any speaker made the one woman just could not keep herself from shouting a “WHAT!” or some other nonsense. Even when Doug was making the point that they lack complete self control during the discipline part. Crazy.
This was unbelievably mild! I’m so thankful!
The “bad guys” aren’t Christians and aren’t expected to act like one! Pray for our heckling neighbors! They need Christ!
@@lizakamomboyd6965If they aren't expected to act like Christians, then by what standard will God judge those who do not repent?
@@michaellautermilch9185I believe they meant we as Christians aren't called to judge them as Christians, not that God will not judge them if they refuse to repent.
Blessed by these Men of God.
Wonder if Ligon Duncan considers this event “LARPING”
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Great Q
@@cosmictreason2242I see what you did there
Yeah - seriously. I respect Lig, but man, he loves to jump on bandwagons before he knows what he’s talking about.
I wonder if Ligon Duncan considers it "Larping" if you put an add in the paper publishing your home phone number to debate abortion, furthermore having your wife answer that call unaware of such solicitation and taking care of business. Talk about being able to read the story you are in. Sounds like you have to wake up pretty early in the morning to get one over on Nancy, but it's just "Larping".
Love you, Doug. Those kids are so lost, it’s sad. Hopefully you planted a mustard seed in their soul.
This was wonderful. I'm so impressed with the focused yet relaxed & loving attitude these men of God showed the audience. I think something great happened here. It's hard to imagine anyone wouldn't love this fellowship under God.
Praise the LORD Jesus Christ!!! Jesus is LORD!
Christ is God. Christ is the creator. Christ is Yahweh. Christ is King.
Perfect example of three bold, courageous, godly men. Bravo! 👏🏼 The church at large should take notice. We need more of this everywhere.
I love how calm these three are with a hostile crowd. I would love to see them do these Q&As more often.
We need more of this! The love, joy, peace, PATIENCE, KINDNESS, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self control displayed by all three of these men was exemplary. I grew up in a charismatic church with a weak foundation, so when my faith was challenged in college it crumbled and I became agnostic/atheist. Praise God for the men in my life who were willing to have reasoned conversations with me when I was a disagreeable atheist. All the interruptions really boil down to an inability to engage with the ideas, but these men did a great job of maintaining focus. Any ‘moral atheist’ willing to wrestle with the answer Doug provides 1:21:04 will not be able to maintain this position, you will either abandon morality or atheism.
This is where dougi and co are in a league of their own.
Boldly presenting the gospel to the people! Amen to this
Love the "boldly." It was strong, unapologetic, not reactive or contentious.
Bravo. Faithful engagement with the community. Very edifying. Thank you to everyone who made this happen. May God bless you and your families.
Amen
Pastor Douglas Wilson is an international treasure.
The fruit of the Spirit truly on display in these men. God bless them and Christ Church.
Toby Sumpter's facial expressions during the introduction are priceless.
I love this Church! Greetings from Vienna, Austria!
Thanks for making Town Hall meetings Great Again.
@35:39 - Absolutely priceless and hilarious how perfectly on-cue that was... She literally proved his point in less than 5 seconds and didn't even realize it.
and this is how a christian should engage the public square! Bravo for real men who love Jesus and share His good news in every area of their lives
wow. This is great!!
This is what sets Doug Wilson and Co. apart... their engagement with the public and/or opposition... courage...their depth of thinking, their demeanor, etc., etc.
Also this is the perfect thing to watch while walking on a boring treadmill...
Every time I hear these men speak, my soul response with “yes!” So much wisdom and truth. Thank you for your faithfulness and frank speech, in spite of the outbursts!
Great work, Pastor Doug.
You are so wonderful! It's a shame that we don't have a church like yours in Lithuania! God bless you!
At first I thought this was going to be an intra church Q and A but when I heard it was for the general public I literally went and had popcorn made for this.
It shocks me that so many young people don't have a phone and are unable to text. I mean that is amazing in today's society. Were they at some sort of Amish gathering, perhaps?
Many of them probably can't get an ID either.
😂😂😂 the university is for sure Amish! This made me chuckle 🤭
I love Jesus
"The sign of a fanatic is they won't allow you to agree with them" lol quotes like that is why I listen
Winsome, Irenic, and Thoughtful. To WIT, may God use it for His glory and good purposes!
Well done, gentlemen.
This was 🔥, second half especially. Saving it for future listens as well
This was just brilliant! I particularly love the joyful firmness you all exhibited. You represented Christiantiy so well! Grace to you all! Thank you!
It was both a great blessing and a great frustration to watch this. However, I am very thankful to God for these men and their defense of the gospel against the wickedness gathered against them in that room that night.
This was the most mild U of I or town hall meeting with Pastor Wilson ever…. Even our Christmas caroling usually attracts more heckling! This was so greatly encouraging!!! I really think community members were listening and I’m praying they we’re being moved by the Holy Spirit!!!
Some members of the audience are measurably insane.
Pastor Doug, great job for the Kingdom.
These guys are so freaking based it’s refreshing
I pray many pastors see this and begin to engage in the public square. The congregation has your back and are awaiting your leadership.
You guys did incredible!
Awesome. Thanks.
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 God bless these faithful men
Phenomenal job, guys. God bless you.
You all did a wonderful job. Thank you.
Well done, good and faithful servants! You are an example to us all by your love and patience.
One of the bravest things any Christian can do!
Thanks, guys!
This is so good!!!!
Excellent to see the citizens of the community asking questions to a church that cares about reforming the community.
Great time listening!
Good job men!
1:13:10 Absolutely gold 😂 Christ over Chaos! 🙌🏿
These guys are my heros.
Courageous men!
Why does it feel like the audience follows instructions like a 1st grader?
Dr. Ben was hilarious tonight👌🏼
Well done guys , I wanna listen it’s hard with the hyenas in the background.
Biggest supporter of the Church United States of America 🇺🇸
Love the Christian behavior of these men.
A great display of the fruit of the Spirit…
This was amazing! I'd love to see you guys do more of this!
Very good: respectful, loving, Biblical.
Wow great job!
Maybe it’s just the people I happened to be raised around, and surround myself with, but it’s crazy to hear adults that must immediately interject against anything they don’t like, constantly.
Every breath one of the speakers took, someone in the crowd (sounded like mainly the same few) had to immediately shout their disagreement.
I don’t know if it’s just the adderal induced anxiety they live with, total lack of any type of emotional control, or that their no-consequence discipline system obviously failed them. But it’s very annoying to listen to.
Is it that hard to sit and listen to things you disagree with? You can’t even control yourself enough to behave like an adult?
Beautifully done.
I would like to thank that young lady's great-grandfather for choosing not to patent his technology so the whole world could have electricity.
What a ridiculous person she is
Well.. that was interesting.. hoping for updates
Some advise from a former atheist and former leftist to the hecklers. There are people in the room who share your worldview. They went to something like this to learn more about the other side. Whenever you run your mouth, it pushes them to the other side. So as someone who opposes you, the hecklers, I want to thank them for doing what they do. You are the true MVPs here.
🤟 You rock
The security guard has a mask on 😂
And that’s okay.
@@JesseBingham Cowardice is a sin. (Revelation 21:8)
@@brettschlee7090 it’s hard for me to imagine that you seriously can’t think of a reason other than cowardice why someone might be wearing a mask.
@@JesseBinghamalso a to disguise your face, or during surgery. Pretty sure the guard isn’t doing either of those
@@JesseBingham It's been several years now.
Well done
These kids do not know the incredible mind they are dealing with that is Douglas Wilson.
Takes guts to do this.
Yes and Christians need to be covered in prayer!
Love hearing from Christ church here in California 🇺🇸
Christian nationalism 😃
no such thing as christian nationalism that just weird. you either christian or you not..... that it
@@crackinlackin6189and you're either nationalist, globalist or tribalist. Pick one
Jesus is King. I guess you disagree with that @@crackinlackin6189
There is nothing more grating to the ears than a person who speaks even though they have nothing substantive to say. I am referring to the toddlers in the front row, if that wasn't apparent.
I’ve never heard adults who couldn’t let a half of a statement go without interjecting some nonsense. They don’t even realize how embarrassed they should be, which makes it even more cringey to listen to.
This was great but so disappointing you didn't honor and respect the girls great grandpa who invented computers 😅
😂
If you want to see how openly hostile the world is to the Gospel just listen to the hecklers behavior.
Loved this!
If you are offended by Doug even suggestion that there could have been anything good about a slave, master relationship, dont' read Booker T Washingtons Up From Slavery. Now, if you want to get your head out of your self important, self righteous, ....behind, and hear from someone who was a slave, then, please please..read Up From Slavery.
Gotta love the leftist tolerance all these students are showing
There were slave owners who treated their “slaves” like family. In a time when negros couldn’t live independently in society they gave them their own homes on the family estate, had them attend family worship, and even reunited family members by buying for example a husband from another slave owner so that they could live as husband and wife. Spared no expense on doctors for them if they needed it. These were Christian people who lived out the Bible’s teachings of do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Many people chose to continue living with the same people who owned them after they were emancipated because they were treated so well and the quality of their lives was better where they were than on their own in society at that time.
Bro fair point but don’t call them negros you’re a couple centuries behind
There's that Wilson once more curling into the foetal position inside five minutes.
WOW, even in Idaho the students are OUT OF CONTROL !!! They behave like toddlers !!!
Don't send your kids to college
@@cosmictreason2242 My son is going to trade school !!! My daughter is going to NSA, where these guys are !!! I won't be paying for woke college of any kind that is for sure.
@@LorinPartain while I'm not going to play at being farther right than everyone when i was born yesterday, i really do have legitimate concerns about the impact of college - of any kind - on 💃 and would advise against that, encouraging excellence in sewing, gardening, video editing, apologetics, general editing, flooring, etc - things that make er useful to a spouse. I believe the Bible implicitly forbids sending one's 💃s away from the home for any reason unless ' is living with relatives who are then the immediate authority over er. The damage that schooling does to a 💃 being able to cleave to a 👨 cannot be overstated, it's a distraction as well as a source of pride and independence and tempts to div ce. Over 90% of 💃 filers are degree holders. I would love to see statistics of filers who are also weekly attenders, as a control. But I'm not optimistic.
@@cosmictreason2242 College of any kind? Kids who want to do certain things in life NEED to have a college education, AND not all colleges are the denizens of the devil that many today are. I don't write it all off as you do, but I am very selective.
@@LorinPartain unless they want to be a cardiologist they don't. Living on campus is worse than commuting which is worse than online only but all of it leads to a puffed up false belief that only a man with a similar amount of time wasted in school or similar income level is worthy of her. It will lead her to still be single in her mid 30s, but I'm telling you it's completely avoidable. The woman was made to support the man's mission, not to have her own independent mission. Ask yourself, is your daughter pursuing her own mission or supporting your mission and setting herself up to support the mission of her husband? Not pie in the sky but at this very moment. This is what i meant by independence
I had no idea that the immaculate conception wasn’t the virgin birth 😮
Indeed it's a catholic hair ressy
Good stuff. I was a little disappointed by the amount of “inside baseball” questions that were fielded. But that’s most likely because I don’t know the nature or wording of the other questions being asked, although I’m sure some of the accusatory ones could have been distilled into a common thread of thought. Otherwise well done as always. Hoping the Lord gives us opportunity for things like this in the future here in West Virginia.
Within the first 10 seconds the audience demonstrated their inability to have a functional dialog.
It got better.
Is there a security that would be willing.. that is the true question 😅
I remember watching this 2 years ago, sometimes I think I mess up but I don’t even though I do , especially the man walking out I remember that clearly, God definitely know the future
I was just waiting for Doug’s comment about the lack of spanking and the interruptions. 😂
This helps me know how to handle the unhinged
“And in the Holy Spirit, the Lord the creator of live, who proceeds from the Father.”-Council of Constantinople, 381. This is the way ☦️
“And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.”
Revelation 22:1 KJV
You’re wrong
When Christ is involved there will be division. And that is because Christ is God and this world is NOT of him. Lord have mercy on us
How do you say the mother didn't kill her? Even though she repented... praise God, it was her decision, and she went through with it.