@AndrewMclachlan-hq4jp No the FUCK he is not! He got carried by Pun and everyone around him. Name ONE album that you listen to that's a Fat Joe album?!?!
But he told a bunch of ignorance tho 😂😂 saying half of jamaicans and boricuas didn't mess with hip but fails to mention those were the ones with ties to their islands ( recently immigrants or FOB's). He also doesn't mention that blacks trying to punk latinos for phone time is a huge reason there are two phones in rikers 😂 He also glosses over the fact that black folks were on that racist tip when he says there's blacks that didn't mess with latinos and y'all still praise his politician ass 😂😂
Here's the real, EVERYBODY played both sides of the fence when it comes to Foundational Black Americans.....even to this day! Alot of them tried to assimilate with the Europeans by being prejudice against Black people.
@@barnardkemp9693 That’s only if they never came out and was known to be of that descent. I knew in MONEY EARNIN’ MOUNT VERNON, HEAVY D was JAMAICAN. I knew PHIFE DAWG was JAMAICAN AS WELL. I knew FAT JOE and PRINCE MARKIE DEE of the FAT BOYS was PUERTO RICAN. Years later, I see KANGOL KID, HURBY LOVE BUG and DAVE (DOVE) -DE LA SOUL was HAITIAN. I never seen KRS AND BUSTA like that eventhough they showed inkling of it. They never mentioned it. IS BIG A GUEST NOW ? Is PUN a guest ?
Bruh educated urself Rican been down since the 60 when we march with Martin Luther King in the poor people march so that fk shit u talking about being convient u think it was convenient to march with Martin Luther King in the 60 u bozo go ask ur mom what the 60 was like and get educated this New York we built different on this side and here's some information u probably don't know Jim Jones, norega and Carmelo Anthony are half Rican go look it up and that's how we get down..... Bang Bang BOOGIE 💪
WTH are you talking about? How does it go? Nah officer I'm not one of those Americans don't shoot! Stop the bullshit. I'm not mad at u thought the Internet is a gift and a curse.
Fat joe is a culture vulture who used digging in the crates to get his name. Lets be real. Lord finesse and big L - big pun (terror squad) made them crews relevant.
@jamar95little24 1. Big L was murdered before he could reach superstardom besides everybody knew big L was a superior lyricist . Fat joe had some aight music nothing to break a neck over in the early days. IT wasn't untill big pun joined terror squad thst fat joe started toget recognized. Once again coat tail riding off the real spitters.
Lamar is right this is not only in ny but in the south u have a group of ricans & carribeaans who identify /get along with African Americans but you have a large group of Ricans & carribeaans who h@te African Americans & try to identify with yt or non African American
I don't know about up North but for the most part in the South the Caribbeans and all the blacks get along as far as the Latinos if they don't got the numbers their semi okay with us but the Latinos that look like us they always claim black
When yall say Caribbeans we Jamaicans don’t give a f…k about non of yall foolishness. Leave us out yall foolishness and go fight each other’s ova music lol dumb as hell. And lord Jamar half Guyanese, his parents from the Caribbean so he is from the Caribbean as well 😂😂😂😂😂
I'm old enough to remember when Fat Joe hit the scene, he didn't make waves lyrically or culturally (except PR) until he brought Big Pun on. Pun was so gifted he instantly outshined Joe.... Instantly!! Don't get it twisted tho, every other race plays the fence when trying to enter Hip Hop.
in the 80's we use to call Puerto Ricans Germans and Fat Joe is moving like a 80's Puerto Rican German he's from that era it's embedded into his core he can't change he's lived that way too long
@@datboidox Was he a "wack" mc or just the wackiest in the crew. Now give it a lil thought before you answer. If you're saying he's the wackiest in the clan ... that means the whole clan was wack. Let me help you out ... how bout he wasnt the best in the crew. Your welcome
Why even say "wack" instead of you just don't rock with dude? I've heard verses I liked less than other's, but if RZA put him in the group, there's some talent there.
@@keithdavid1544 we were always better at pop locking but Puerto Ricans were the windmill kings.. their floor work was unstoppable.. as a former break dancer I’m speaking from experience
Lord Jamar's description of Black, Brown relationships is more accurate than Fat Joe's. Furthermore, I cringed when Joe called Jamar the "Wackest member." That indicated that he felt the entire group was wack. Joe is a master of sensationalism. Not accuracy.
Jamar was DEFINITELY batting 3rd in that group.... Puba was the home run hitter.... Sadat X had the " style ".... And Jamar was known for WHAT exactly...🤷🏾♂️😂😂😂
Puerto ricans were the first latin group to settle in New York in the 50s and the 60s. So we lived in the hood together. But it was a proximity relationship. We didn't feel a certain way about them, but they definitely did not wanna be around us. So Jamar is right to a certain extent🤔
He tells you HALF the truth not the FULL truth…. He’s right, I’m sure there were Spanish parents telling the kids not to mess with the blacks BUT I bet there were black parents telling their kids not to mess with the spics….. so let’s keep it a buck…and I’m Puerto Rican/ American with family that are darker than lord Jamar so what? I’m gonna be racist towards my own family or others? 🙄
Facts, I’m from Tompkins PJ’s and although it’s Bed-Stuy, it’s borderline Williamsburg and I got along with the PR’s from my hood, but once you cross Flushing Ave, it’s survival of the fittest
I grew up in Bed-Stuy the first half of my life and there were very few Puerto Ricans in Brooklyn. I did not grow up in the projects, but they were not in any of schools I attended, nor were they present in any of the Brooklyn events my family attended. I saw them in the Bronx and Manhattan.
@@Miss-Ann-Thropeexactly. I'm from Brooklyn also I grew up in Brooklyn in the 90s. In Puerto Ricans wasn't that much in Brooklyn at the time. It was more Dominicans in Brooklyn than Puerto Ricans
Not all Mexicans are the same.Not all blacks are the same. Not all Mexicans and blacks think the same way as the streets. Up in Northern Cali the blacks and browns are united and I won’t speak on jail politics but the respect is there. Im only speaking from my experience and many other Chicanos and Blacks of my era and area. Raised in The 80/90s in the Bay… But we also knew that most places didn’t rock like that , we heard the stories the same way NorCal stories were being heard across the map. Check out Thizz Nation and ThizzLatin and you’ll see I’m speaking facts. We were slapping from Mac Dre to Gold Toes…
And throwing Puerto Ricans in is wrong too cause Joe is AMERICAN, born in New York, that doesn’t make him Rican… and his parents are Rican and Cuban but all you hear is Puerto Rican…. He barely knows Spanish…
@@AdrianHernandez-df1zqit don’t matter he’s still Puerto Rican but I ain’t feeling all this bias shit on both sides at all hell niggas don’t fuck with niggas🤷🏽♂️ ask them southern nighas do they like NY nighas are watch what they tell you so let’s all stop the BS
There are rebellious ones that are loyal to the coalition and then the LK still exist here. There’s always a King that will crash out just because. If you fba you automatically Opp.
In rikers island the phones are seperated depending on what gang your in or if you're a neutral it doesn't matter what color you are if you're not gang affiliated you're not getting on a latin king or damu phone etc
Do you all not see what’s happening here.. there’s a bigger picture at play here.. every group is coming for each other. It’s the old divide and conquer strategy and all of you are falling right into their trap.. if we spent as much energy as a united force we’d be unstoppable but y’all rather spend your time infighting.. this goes for every group …
@ I agree but this whole discussion is pretty ridiculous.. we’re so busy infighting thanks to all this fba/ados/tether talk .. and it’s working to divide us so they can conquer.. it’s sad where we’ve come to..
I’m from Chicago. 80s baby. Logan square l/humbolt park. There was a time. Up until like 93. Puerto Ricans and blacks did not get along at all. It got so bad. Even the Mexicans started to click up with the Puerto Ricans. Only things that changed it. Was hip hop abs gang culture. Once the black gangs (vice lords, black stones, GDs started coming around. The animosity was still there. But black people were no longer targeted as much. Until the Puerto Rican day parades.
You can’t compare Mexicans and Caribbeans. Just because they’re all Latinos doesn’t mean their culture are the same. It’s just like comparing Argentines and Peruvians or something like that.
Also, Brand Nubian is never in any honest conversation about the greatest groups in hip hop. Unless you expand your “greatest” list to like top fifty or top hundred.
Yeah not for nothing though Lord Jamar spoke no lies in his opinion of PR/Black American relationships in NYC. In the BX at least that’s how it was 🤷♂️
With this rant by Jamar, by 3:39 - JOE was Rebel. Isn’t he an intricate part of DITC ? Wasn’t GRAND PUBA and DIAMOND D featured on his first album ? To try to call him a vulture 32 years later with all he contributed and put together is crazy.
Look, I don’t agree with all with Joe said, but some of what Joe said was right… some of these dudes are quick to call their own people a coon or a house N**** when they don’t jive with what they jive with…. At least Latinos don’t have have words that dementia our own people like that… they have like 5-6 different words…..
He’s salty cause Joe told the truth about Jamar’s career… if he was better than joe then why did it take him until 2006 to do a solo album if brand Nubian broke up after the ALL FOR ONE album…. Poobah and Sadat x was featured on peoples albums, he wasn’t heard from at all…..
@ My whole thing is why wait till the 50 year of Hip Hop celebrations to speak of what you felt, if you actually felt that way back in the day ? It’s not like Joe was on some MELLOW MAN ACE or GERALDO (RICO SUAVE) type HIP HOP. He’s worked with the majority of legends and created one with BIG PUN. Is Jamar gonna say PRINCE MARKIE DEE who is PUERTO RICAN was a guest as well R.I.P.. ? Is he gonna say the same for KANGOL KID AND HEAVY D AND DAVE (DOVE) DE LA SOUL was guest too ? Hurby LOVE BUG ? Heavy D was Jamaican…The other pioneers and legends are HATIAN.
@@curtis75blacksee another thing with Jamar is he points all this stuff about joe now….. but he said it himself that the first time he saw Joe, he was in a club with ALL black dudes, wearing fatigues with a Koofi on, and now Jamar wants to throw him on the Puerto Ricans as if he was born in Puerto Rico… guess what? Joe is AMERICAN just like Jamar is… like you said, it wasn’t like he was hanging out in the salsa clubs and all of the sudden he started making hip hop albums and was a culture vulture…. If he feels that way, then he must think that the wu tang clan are culture vultures cause last time I checked, none of them are Asian and they made millions off of the Asian culture… and I love the wu, have the wu tattoo but I’m just playing devils advocate…
In the Bronx we did 💯 Not all Ricans speaks English and not all like hip hop just like all black ppl don’t like hip hop … ya need to stop this bullshit
Jamar has been Super bitter ever since Vlad told him he ain’t worth a dollar, so he isnt going to pay him 💩 for all the content he provided and being a continuous guest, and kicked him off his couch… 😂 no matter what u say to him he’s still going to be angry! (Who u really mad at? Us or urself… 🤣)
Notice all the people that got left behind got so much to say so much controversy to cause and got the nerve to be sitting on the couch with jagger that's when I closed the book this is a relevancy cash hope and I'm lol
With all the words being exchanged, Lord Jamar has done the same amount for the black community as Fat Joe since getting on in the 90s. Besides talk LJ has done NOTHING, now he does more celebrity gossip. All time to grow up.
Facts…. Joe wasn’t right in everything he said but he wasn’t wrong about everything… lord Jamar says things to go viral as well, before TH-cam, you ever hardly heard this dude talk or give his opinions…now every month he’s saying something weird…..
@@AdrianHernandez-df1zqlord Jamal spoke facts yall ninjas just want to walk on eggshells scared to offend some puertoricans about,they bullshit yall cowards I'm rocking with Jamal all day
I think at this point it's just been taken out of context and dragged out too far at the end of the day Caribbean people Puerto Ricans were all DNA connected through our ancestors despite of the colonization our ancestors were all related we're all one despised of the different outcome of the different nationalities it still is rooted as a one DNA. We all have the the sauce embedded in US
It is about the Latino and Caribbean people getting together to go against the Black Americans, whose lineage was here before America was formed. There has always been an underlying conflict.
The problem is that the colonization of the European and Jews that went in to Puerto Rico in the 19 20s 40s and 50s has literally suppress white supremacy on our people that were already on the Island those ports that you see in Puerto Rico el morro .that was not built by regular Puerto Ricans. that are on the island el morro, is built by and Slaves that came in to Puerto Rico when Christopher Columbus came in the boats el morro that everyone sees that was actually a jail for the African people that came into the island la pelas was a place for the black community to keep them out out of Puerto Rico but all this came after the slaves and taino people were enslaved already year's before, that's why you see Las pelas outside of the wall. yes there was a lot of racism in Puerto Rico itself but throughout time these Jews that came into the island European has washed away our true heritage and it's not just blacks there was also tainos that were enslaved in our owen island. But fat Joe has a racist reaction because of the brain watching our people have . I did my dna, and I was born in puerto Rico and I know my history when it comes to my island, and my people. I'm a product of the enslaved people and these different groups of people that have come to Puerto Rico since the early 1400 in 1800
Fat Joe is the wackiest in DITC and the wackiest in Terror Squad. Never had a hit without a feature. He's a bum on the mic and I've always thought that. He only got better when Pun started having influence on his lyrics.
Lord Jamal is a sell out who is feened out for the separation of Latinos and blacks just focusing the beef no respect for a lame that I used to be a fan of
From living in NYC, it’s the most segregated place in America. A lot of people get along, but there is always an underlying tension. A lot of people stay in their neighborhoods amongst themselves exclusively. Fat boy knows this, or maybe he’s too out of touch to remember reality.
It has calmed down a lot but dude you capn🧢 a little bit. Maybe that was your personal experience but if we speaking overall as a whole, no they do not like us🤦🏾♀️ They like our culture but not us. I was at the Kendrick concert in Inglewood with a group of women and young teenager women and the essays was trying to give us smoke all because they was mad none of their people wasn’t on the Pop out stage for Juneteenth. This was only like 6 months ago. If your gonna be a platform hold some responsibility by at least speaking on TRUTH!!! No time to pander and play the fence😤👀🤷🏾♀️ It’s some cool Mexicans especially individually but when they get in packs they like to show how racist they truly are. You have to speak truth to power bro💯
Man you can't even compare Mexicans to puerto ricans please.. Blacks can't get a long with each other. Let's start with that first and stop worrying about other races
I never looked at Fat Joe as a great MC nobody checks for that dude rhymes GTFOH.People been writing fat joe raps so for him to call lord Jamar wack is crazy to me lol,
Foundational black American here.......its our fault keep inviting people in the circle of ours and now we mad when they wanna take over. BUT IT AINT HAPPENING
With all the OL HEADS putting out pretty good projects recently... Why doesnt Jamar stop the TALKING and put some out MUSIC.... I want to see him put his money where his mouth is...
Don't show up to Jamar's discussion to help him stay relevant and get streams show up to speak your piece why it gotta be streamed see this is a problem hip hop is bigger than who started it we know who started it Kool Herc who is supposed to be Jamaican but Jamaican is considered black especially to white people we live in a black and white world no in between take your pick I don't know but my neighborhood wasn't like that blacks and Puerto Ricans were together no wars now I saw black on black more than I saw black against Latinos and I'm from Bed Stuy I'm just saying why this why now is there a check involved cuz it's always about the money
Nobody got along with Lord jamar, that's why his music a flop! Man got music from 11 years ago. S*** didn't even break 100,000 views. This man trying to stir up controversy for relevancy. Grand Nubian is done. S*** is over with move on buddy
@coach6463 THEIR CULTURE: They lie They steal more than Black Americans facts. They start Fires for fun. They Ruin other People's lives straight up facts. They'll get beat up And call the Police & Blame It on someone else they Pretended they were cool with absolute facts.
Brah you know how many people i know in their 40s and 50s are half puertorican half black what does that tell you we've been with each other forever Stop trying to divide you racist failed rapper
First of all ....I can't stand latin kings ...but why they formed up ...cuz the 5% ers was oppressing Puerto Ricans .....stop be one sided ......we all did bad at one point ...
Remy Ma, despite her flaws--i.e. her relationship with Pap, is a better rapper than Joe, do not get it twisted.
No she’s not 😂😂😂😂😂 fat Joe is a class emcee better than 99% of modern rappers
@AndrewMclachlan-hq4jp troll😡
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@AndrewMclachlan-hq4jp No the FUCK he is not! He got carried by Pun and everyone around him. Name ONE album that you listen to that's a Fat Joe album?!?!
@AndrewMclachlan-hq4jpna she better
Lord Jamar had told no lies!!!!!
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None and I've had Puerto Ricans side with WHITE FOLKS against me when I was right in my real life
But he told a bunch of ignorance tho 😂😂 saying half of jamaicans and boricuas didn't mess with hip but fails to mention those were the ones with ties to their islands ( recently immigrants or FOB's). He also doesn't mention that blacks trying to punk latinos for phone time is a huge reason there are two phones in rikers 😂 He also glosses over the fact that black folks were on that racist tip when he says there's blacks that didn't mess with latinos and y'all still praise his politician ass 😂😂
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Here's the real, EVERYBODY played both sides of the fence when it comes to Foundational Black Americans.....even to this day! Alot of them tried to assimilate with the Europeans by being prejudice against Black people.
Fat Joe race status is white he is holding a L fo life
💯%@ll facts Jamaicans in Puerto Rican are playing on both sides of the fence when is convenient for them
@@barnardkemp9693 That’s only if they never came out and was known to be of that descent. I knew in MONEY EARNIN’ MOUNT VERNON, HEAVY D was JAMAICAN. I knew PHIFE DAWG was JAMAICAN AS WELL. I knew FAT JOE and PRINCE MARKIE DEE of the FAT BOYS was PUERTO RICAN. Years later, I see KANGOL KID, HURBY LOVE BUG and DAVE (DOVE) -DE LA SOUL was HAITIAN. I never seen KRS AND BUSTA like that eventhough they showed inkling of it. They never mentioned it. IS BIG A GUEST NOW ? Is PUN a guest ?
Bruh educated urself Rican been down since the 60 when we march with Martin Luther King in the poor people march so that fk shit u talking about being convient u think it was convenient to march with Martin Luther King in the 60 u bozo go ask ur mom what the 60 was like and get educated this New York we built different on this side and here's some information u probably don't know Jim Jones, norega and Carmelo Anthony are half Rican go look it up and that's how we get down..... Bang Bang BOOGIE 💪
Agreed. He Ain’t Lying
WTH are you talking about? How does it go? Nah officer I'm not one of those Americans don't shoot! Stop the bullshit. I'm not mad at u thought the Internet is a gift and a curse.
Convenient how? 😂 Hip hop been dead… and Rap is just a cheap whore!
Fat joe is a culture vulture who used digging in the crates to get his name. Lets be real. Lord finesse and big L - big pun (terror squad) made them crews relevant.
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U can't take that away from fat Joe... He more hip hop than anyone
@@Urmak85slopy Joe is trash 🗑
You can't take away from fat joe.Big L didn't have half the success as fat joe in the 90s
@jamar95little24 1. Big L was murdered before he could reach superstardom besides everybody knew big L was a superior lyricist . Fat joe had some aight music nothing to break a neck over in the early days. IT wasn't untill big pun joined terror squad thst fat joe started toget recognized. Once again coat tail riding off the real spitters.
Lord Jamar is the REAL Deal, he tells it like it is!!!!! 👍🏾
He tells the TRUTH 🙏🏾🤷🏾♀️
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Lamar is right this is not only in ny but in the south u have a group of ricans & carribeaans who identify /get along with African Americans but you have a large group of Ricans & carribeaans who h@te African Americans & try to identify with yt or non African American
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Absolutely correct
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I don't know about up North but for the most part in the South the Caribbeans and all the blacks get along as far as the Latinos if they don't got the numbers their semi okay with us but the Latinos that look like us they always claim black
When yall say Caribbeans we Jamaicans don’t give a f…k about non of yall foolishness. Leave us out yall foolishness and go fight each other’s ova music lol dumb as hell. And lord Jamar half Guyanese, his parents from the Caribbean so he is from the Caribbean as well 😂😂😂😂😂
Im a 80's baby born and raised in Brooklyn ny and Lord jamal IS speaking ALL SNAPPLE KIWI APPLE FACTS!
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@@KofisUniverseI'm a 70's baby...you don't know sht.
@dollarroll2000 Well that settles it. Thanks brother.
I'm old enough to remember when Fat Joe hit the scene, he didn't make waves lyrically or culturally (except PR) until he brought Big Pun on. Pun was so gifted he instantly outshined Joe.... Instantly!! Don't get it twisted tho, every other race plays the fence when trying to enter Hip Hop.
Thank you
Great insight, Fam! It was the precursor to the Durk/Von relationship, in retrospect. Wow🤔😳🤷🏾♂️💯!!!
THIS IS COMPLETELY FBA'S FAULT FOR ALLOWING THESE OTHER RACES TO HAVE A SAY POINT BLANK FACTSSSSSSS
Grew up in NY and lord Jamar is stating facts
Exactly I'm from Brooklyn. And yes I had a Puerto Rican friends. But for the most part Puerto Ricans and blacks didn't get along
@carlmyrick3422 if u did hv a Puerto Rican who hung out with blacks he wz usually alienated from his people
Wtf....fat Joe thinks he Ron O'Neal now. He got some damn nerve.
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This is fact, in every Latino community not just exclusive to New York
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in the 80's we use to call Puerto Ricans Germans and Fat Joe is moving like a 80's Puerto Rican German he's from that era it's embedded into his core he can't change he's lived that way too long
Thanks for that info.
That Rikers talk is 100% accurate. Those Germans on the Island were out of control.
Fat joe: Brand nubian is legendary
Fat joe: Lord Jamar is the wackiest one
The two don't go together ... the statement contradicts itself
Actually no it doesn't. Because u god was the wackiest mc in the clan. But the clan was legendary
@@datboidox Was he a "wack" mc or just the wackiest in the crew. Now give it a lil thought before you answer. If you're saying he's the wackiest in the clan ... that means the whole clan was wack. Let me help you out ... how bout he wasnt the best in the crew. Your welcome
@@datboidox Or he was the only wack mc in the clan
Why even say "wack" instead of you just don't rock with dude? I've heard verses I liked less than other's, but if RZA put him in the group, there's some talent there.
@@datboidoxu god was the best check his solo albums n work
I remember all of Lord Jamar's rhymes while he was in Brand Nubian. The god always came correct.
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Lord jamar was sleeping on dj vlad couch for a long time, a true black leader...
Why am I enjoying this sooo much
RIP BIG PUN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2024
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Lord Jamar whole Facts 🤷🏽♂️😆🫡
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Black americans taught puerto ricans how to break dance tho. That is facts. We never had any non blacks or non americans to help us create hip hop
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@@mastershockvalue6499Facts
@@keithdavid1544 we were always better at pop locking but Puerto Ricans were the windmill kings.. their floor work was unstoppable.. as a former break dancer I’m speaking from experience
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We started getting together when Italian was treating us the same racism. In the bronx
Rat Joe think he’s the toughest guy in the world 😂😂😂 always lying
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@@Ace-Bomber456 he did Rat 🐀 on a Murder Star got the Paperwork whole Facts 😆🫡
Speaking the Truth Lord Jamar
Jail politics are different then real life
Wow, Lord J said "Cocolo".....That word is from my childhood and I'm in my 50s.
My dawg lord Jamal!! Let's keep it real!!! 💯
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Lord Jamar's description of Black, Brown relationships is more accurate than Fat Joe's. Furthermore, I cringed when Joe called Jamar the "Wackest member." That indicated that he felt the entire group was wack. Joe is a master of sensationalism. Not accuracy.
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Yes, we all knew that Sadat X was the "weakest link" in that chain 🔗🤷🏾♂️💯.lol
Jamar was DEFINITELY batting 3rd in that group....
Puba was the home run hitter....
Sadat X had the " style "....
And Jamar was known for WHAT exactly...🤷🏾♂️😂😂😂
Puerto ricans were the first latin group to settle in New York in the 50s and the 60s. So we lived in the hood together. But it was a proximity relationship. We didn't feel a certain way about them, but they definitely did not wanna be around us. So Jamar is right to a certain extent🤔
He tells you HALF the truth not the FULL truth…. He’s right, I’m sure there were Spanish parents telling the kids not to mess with the blacks BUT I bet there were black parents telling their kids not to mess with the spics….. so let’s keep it a buck…and I’m Puerto Rican/ American with family that are darker than lord Jamar so what? I’m gonna be racist towards my own family or others? 🙄
He's right period, I seen it most of my life on how pr didn't like blacks
Thank you!! So basically you said yall stuck yall. Exactly 💯
Facts, I’m from Tompkins PJ’s and although it’s Bed-Stuy, it’s borderline Williamsburg and I got along with the PR’s from my hood, but once you cross Flushing Ave, it’s survival of the fittest
Thanks for this info.
I grew up in Bed-Stuy the first half of my life and there were very few Puerto Ricans in Brooklyn. I did not grow up in the projects, but they were not in any of schools I attended, nor were they present in any of the Brooklyn events my family attended. I saw them in the Bronx and Manhattan.
@@Miss-Ann-Thropeexactly. I'm from Brooklyn also I grew up in Brooklyn in the 90s. In Puerto Ricans wasn't that much in Brooklyn at the time. It was more Dominicans in Brooklyn than Puerto Ricans
Not all Mexicans are the same.Not all blacks are the same. Not all Mexicans and blacks think the same way as the streets. Up in Northern Cali the blacks and browns are united and I won’t speak on jail politics but the respect is there. Im only speaking from my experience and many other Chicanos and Blacks of my era and area. Raised in The 80/90s in the Bay… But we also knew that most places didn’t rock like that , we heard the stories the same way NorCal stories were being heard across the map. Check out Thizz Nation and ThizzLatin and you’ll see I’m speaking facts. We were slapping from Mac Dre to Gold Toes…
Cuban link!! Remy ma!! Big Pun all better that fat Joe !! Facts 💯
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Lord jamar killed it!!! With all facts in reality
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Let's keep it real seriously! Lord you ain't never lie man about this topic.
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Throwing black Caribbeans in with Puerto Rucans just isn't sitting right with me.
And throwing Puerto Ricans in is wrong too cause Joe is AMERICAN, born in New York, that doesn’t make him Rican… and his parents are Rican and Cuban but all you hear is Puerto Rican…. He barely knows Spanish…
Well blame math Hoffa for letting him say that dumb stuff
@@AdrianHernandez-df1zqit don’t matter he’s still Puerto Rican but I ain’t feeling all this bias shit on both sides at all hell niggas don’t fuck with niggas🤷🏽♂️ ask them southern nighas do they like NY nighas are watch what they tell you so let’s all stop the BS
The term Wutless Yankee wouldnt exist if West Indians didn't see themselves and separate and better than. But hey we can act like that doesn't exist.
@@smokescythe8880Kool Herc is Jamaican.
Facts bro facts!
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Joey thinks he Ron O'Neal; he bout to get his comeuppance.
Same thing in Chicago with Blacks and Mexicans
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There are rebellious ones that are loyal to the coalition and then the LK still exist here. There’s always a King that will crash out just because. If you fba you automatically Opp.
I'm Puerto Rican and did 9 months in C74 in 06 and everyone one was relatively ight with each other
lol war of the races blacks would just kill eachother
Lord Jammar 💯
This is Ether...
Jamar got a point. But unification is the key.
He knows this.
Peace.
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Lord jamar always tell truth no matter wat
Actual Facts
Yep
Lord is right 💯
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In rikers island the phones are seperated depending on what gang your in or if you're a neutral it doesn't matter what color you are if you're not gang affiliated you're not getting on a latin king or damu phone etc
Jamar tells you HIS truth, but not the full truth….. joe was wrong in things he said but there are things he said that were correct….
Lord, Jamar said I want to be a conscience rapper 🤣 that's that being raised in New Rochelle
Do you all not see what’s happening here.. there’s a bigger picture at play here.. every group is coming for each other. It’s the old divide and conquer strategy and all of you are falling right into their trap.. if we spent as much energy as a united force we’d be unstoppable but y’all rather spend your time infighting.. this goes for every group …
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@daviddawes293 Every group has the right to define themselves culturally. PRs have a culture, Cubans have a culture and so do black Americans.
@ I agree but this whole discussion is pretty ridiculous.. we’re so busy infighting thanks to all this fba/ados/tether talk .. and it’s working to divide us so they can conquer.. it’s sad where we’ve come to..
Imagine a flat earther speaking on his intelligence 😂😂😂
I’m from Chicago. 80s baby. Logan square l/humbolt park. There was a time. Up until like 93. Puerto Ricans and blacks did not get along at all. It got so bad. Even the Mexicans started to click up with the Puerto Ricans. Only things that changed it. Was hip hop abs gang culture. Once the black gangs (vice lords, black stones, GDs started coming around. The animosity was still there. But black people were no longer targeted as much. Until the Puerto Rican day parades.
Thanks for sharing this info
Stop it Hector! Ay dios mio! 😂
I did a bit on rikers and you’re right They didn’t fuc with us.
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Living in DC and I recognize this as true. unfortunate but true.
He said cocolos I started crying lmaoo
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Very for real !! The truth and facts
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Brand nubians was 1 of the greatest!! "They not like us" Kendrick lamar 💯💯
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My Brother, I'm 57 years young, and it was the same $hit in south florida....
Wow
You can’t compare Mexicans and Caribbeans.
Just because they’re all Latinos doesn’t mean their culture are the same.
It’s just like comparing Argentines and Peruvians or something like that.
Always was Kool
Joe was the absolute worst in TS and DITC...the nerve😂
He right and go for Mexican and black in South Central
Yep
Your bars different bro 🔥💪🏿🫡
Thanks 💯
Watch the movies look up news paper adds from that error that documents state facts
If you go back you will see for yourself that lord jamar was one of the dopest rappers in brand nubian. Let the music speak
Thank you
To me all the members were style based (unique). Dope regardless ! Big up sadat!
Also, Brand Nubian is never in any honest conversation about the greatest groups in hip hop. Unless you expand your “greatest” list to like top fifty or top hundred.
Yeah not for nothing though Lord Jamar spoke no lies in his opinion of PR/Black American relationships in NYC. In the BX at least that’s how it was 🤷♂️
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Nice
With this rant by Jamar, by 3:39 - JOE was Rebel. Isn’t he an intricate part of DITC ? Wasn’t GRAND PUBA and DIAMOND D featured on his first album ? To try to call him a vulture 32 years later with all he contributed and put together is crazy.
Look, I don’t agree with all with Joe said, but some of what Joe said was right… some of these dudes are quick to call their own people a coon or a house N**** when they don’t jive with what they jive with…. At least Latinos don’t have have words that dementia our own people like that… they have like 5-6 different words…..
He’s salty cause Joe told the truth about Jamar’s career… if he was better than joe then why did it take him until 2006 to do a solo album if brand Nubian broke up after the ALL FOR ONE album…. Poobah and Sadat x was featured on peoples albums, he wasn’t heard from at all…..
@ My whole thing is why wait till the 50 year of Hip Hop celebrations to speak of what you felt, if you actually felt that way back in the day ? It’s not like Joe was on some MELLOW MAN ACE or GERALDO (RICO SUAVE) type HIP HOP. He’s worked with the majority of legends and created one with BIG PUN. Is Jamar gonna say PRINCE MARKIE DEE who is PUERTO RICAN was a guest as well R.I.P.. ? Is he gonna say the same for KANGOL KID AND HEAVY D AND DAVE (DOVE) DE LA SOUL was guest too ? Hurby LOVE BUG ? Heavy D was Jamaican…The other pioneers and legends are HATIAN.
@@curtis75blacksee another thing with Jamar is he points all this stuff about joe now….. but he said it himself that the first time he saw Joe, he was in a club with ALL black dudes, wearing fatigues with a Koofi on, and now Jamar wants to throw him on the Puerto Ricans as if he was born in Puerto Rico… guess what? Joe is AMERICAN just like Jamar is… like you said, it wasn’t like he was hanging out in the salsa clubs and all of the sudden he started making hip hop albums and was a culture vulture…. If he feels that way, then he must think that the wu tang clan are culture vultures cause last time I checked, none of them are Asian and they made millions off of the Asian culture… and I love the wu, have the wu tattoo but I’m just playing devils advocate…
FAT JOE IS TRASH, ALWAYS BEEN TRASH. STOP IT. HE DID NOTHING FOR OUR BLACK CULTURE
In the Bronx we did 💯
Not all Ricans speaks English and not all like hip hop just like all black ppl don’t like hip hop … ya need to stop this bullshit
Plus there’s a bunch of assumptions made here
Jamar has been Super bitter ever since Vlad told him he ain’t worth a dollar, so he isnt going to pay him 💩 for all the content he provided and being a continuous guest, and kicked him off his couch… 😂 no matter what u say to him he’s still going to be angry! (Who u really mad at? Us or urself… 🤣)
Notice all the people that got left behind got so much to say so much controversy to cause and got the nerve to be sitting on the couch with jagger that's when I closed the book this is a relevancy cash hope and I'm lol
Look I'm from Illinois and even I know it's like that all over they not like us.
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He's right tho
With all the words being exchanged, Lord Jamar has done the same amount for the black community as Fat Joe since getting on in the 90s. Besides talk LJ has done NOTHING, now he does more celebrity gossip. All time to grow up.
Facts…. Joe wasn’t right in everything he said but he wasn’t wrong about everything… lord Jamar says things to go viral as well, before TH-cam, you ever hardly heard this dude talk or give his opinions…now every month he’s saying something weird…..
@@AdrianHernandez-df1zqlord Jamal spoke facts yall ninjas just want to walk on eggshells scared to offend some puertoricans about,they bullshit yall cowards I'm rocking with Jamal all day
Fat Joe aint done shit but leech of black hitmakers. Then sign nothing but gargage Latin Rappers to his labrl excluding Pun. Gtfoh
Lord jamar showed his ass in a tv show
You are a dirty Puerto Rican from that Island. Tethers like you are disrespectful
I think at this point it's just been taken out of context and dragged out too far at the end of the day Caribbean people Puerto Ricans were all DNA connected through our ancestors despite of the colonization our ancestors were all related we're all one despised of the different outcome of the different nationalities it still is rooted as a one DNA. We all have the the sauce embedded in US
It is about the Latino and Caribbean people getting together to go against the Black Americans, whose lineage was here before America was formed. There has always been an underlying conflict.
The problem is that the colonization of the European and Jews that went in to Puerto Rico in the 19 20s 40s and 50s has literally suppress white supremacy on our people that were already on the Island those ports that you see in Puerto Rico el morro .that was not built by regular Puerto Ricans. that are on the island el morro, is built by and Slaves that came in to Puerto Rico when Christopher Columbus came in the boats el morro that everyone sees that was actually a jail for the African people that came into the island la pelas was a place for the black community to keep them out out of Puerto Rico but all this came after the slaves and taino people were enslaved already year's before, that's why you see Las pelas outside of the wall. yes there was a lot of racism in Puerto Rico itself but throughout time these Jews that came into the island European has washed away our true heritage and it's not just blacks there was also tainos that were enslaved in our owen island. But fat Joe has a racist reaction because of the brain watching our people have . I did my dna, and I was born in puerto Rico and I know my history when it comes to my island, and my people. I'm a product of the enslaved people and these different groups of people that have come to Puerto Rico since the early 1400 in 1800
Fat Joe is the wackiest in DITC and the wackiest in Terror Squad. Never had a hit without a feature. He's a bum on the mic and I've always thought that. He only got better when Pun started having influence on his lyrics.
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It had to be said.
Lord Jamal is a sell out who is feened out for the separation of Latinos and blacks just focusing the beef no respect for a lame that I used to be a fan of
From living in NYC, it’s the most segregated place in America. A lot of people get along, but there is always an underlying tension. A lot of people stay in their neighborhoods amongst themselves exclusively. Fat boy knows this, or maybe he’s too out of touch to remember reality.
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It has calmed down a lot but dude you capn🧢 a little bit. Maybe that was your personal experience but if we speaking overall as a whole, no they do not like us🤦🏾♀️ They like our culture but not us. I was at the Kendrick concert in Inglewood with a group of women and young teenager women and the essays was trying to give us smoke all because they was mad none of their people wasn’t on the Pop out stage for Juneteenth. This was only like 6 months ago. If your gonna be a platform hold some responsibility by at least speaking on TRUTH!!! No time to pander and play the fence😤👀🤷🏾♀️ It’s some cool Mexicans especially individually but when they get in packs they like to show how racist they truly are. You have to speak truth to power bro💯
Mexicans aren't Puerto Ricans.
Man you can't even compare Mexicans to puerto ricans please.. Blacks can't get a long with each other. Let's start with that first and stop worrying about other races
He’s talking 80’s early 90’s era ny we not talking 2005 or later or other areas stop moving the goalpost
I'm Glad this is Happening 😅 Bc i know im not going so hear 👉🏼🇩🇴 are Black Anymore Lol..Me no Black I'm 🇩🇴
Damn I just heard Joe new album and it’s like I was in a Time Machine circa 2006😂 🚮
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I never looked at Fat Joe as a great MC nobody checks for that dude rhymes GTFOH.People been writing fat joe raps so for him to call lord Jamar wack is crazy to me lol,
Foundational black American here.......its our fault keep inviting people in the circle of ours and now we mad when they wanna take over. BUT IT AINT HAPPENING
🤴 KING POKÉMON..Nah with my FAM..BEDSTUY....,
With all the OL HEADS putting out pretty good projects recently...
Why doesnt Jamar stop the TALKING and put some out MUSIC....
I want to see him put his money where his mouth is...
Top 20 😂😂😂 brah yall had 1bangger punks jump up thats it i skipped through the whole album
Big facts …………
Facts
Don't show up to Jamar's discussion to help him stay relevant and get streams show up to speak your piece why it gotta be streamed see this is a problem hip hop is bigger than who started it we know who started it Kool Herc who is supposed to be Jamaican but Jamaican is considered black especially to white people we live in a black and white world no in between take your pick I don't know but my neighborhood wasn't like that blacks and Puerto Ricans were together no wars now I saw black on black more than I saw black against Latinos and I'm from Bed Stuy I'm just saying why this why now is there a check involved cuz it's always about the money
I was from Bronx River projects and Bronx Dale!! PJ and it was always love between us!! WE ARE THE SAME!! #UCK WHAT U HEARD!!
Nobody got along with Lord jamar, that's why his music a flop! Man got music from 11 years ago. S*** didn't even break 100,000 views. This man trying to stir up controversy for relevancy. Grand Nubian is done. S*** is over with move on buddy
Not better than Andrea the Giant!
I PURPOSELY DON'T HAVE ANY HISPANIC FRIENDS I'D RATHER GET A DOG 1ST & THERE U HAVE IT FOLKS.
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@coach6463
THEIR CULTURE:
They lie
They steal more than Black Americans facts.
They start Fires for fun.
They Ruin other People's lives straight up facts.
They'll get beat up
And call the Police & Blame
It on someone else they Pretended they were cool with absolute facts.
Your loss
@willweed6168
I suffer no loss by not communicating with People
Who are well known to be
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Y'all can say what you want. But fat Joe has done more for the black culture and community.Then most of these rappers do your research
lol. It was black Americans who put him on and further his career!
@micheleshropshire9469 he put himself on, what are you talking about
Brah you know how many people i know in their 40s and 50s are half puertorican half black what does that tell you we've been with each other forever Stop trying to divide you racist failed rapper
Sloppy manwich trying to say someone's wack and he has used ghostwriters.
Thank you
Fat Joe ain't lying. Ain't nobody ever said that lord Jamar was a dope rapper. Grand puba, sadat x and dj Alamo and then jamar. In that order
How did Lady Jamal become an ambassador for anything hip hop , or an authority on black Americans in general prior?
Build bridges don't divide
First of all ....I can't stand latin kings ...but why they formed up ...cuz the 5% ers was oppressing Puerto Ricans .....stop be one sided ......we all did bad at one point ...