@@danmaguire3067 because levels of common sense differ from person to person and common sense is based on the context of a situation. Thus meaning that two similar circumstances could have differing outcomes. Consistency means that similar circumstances are treated equally the same.
The stupid thing is the rules, there are some things that VAR cant look at. Its a joke casemiro slides wins the ball his momentum takes his stud across the oponents shin and VAR can check it and its a red card, but aparently the ref saw the mings foul as an attempt to get the ball with momentum being the only reason he caught Gapko, VAR had to go with the refs decision. You couldnt make this crap up.
Agree with u bro,like diaz's goal that they said it was offside,and when the reffree ask var rom,they not say : oh it is on side,not offside,but they said something that make me think they in competence...
They have already explained it. It was a subjective decision by the referee to deem Konsa deflected the ball. He didn't deem it as a deliberate play by Konsa. Simple. Genuinely don't know what everyone wants. The culture in football now is not to want to try and understand why decisons have been made and then accept them, the culture amongst football supporters, coaches and players is now just to want to argue why everyone else is wrong and they are right.
@Paul O'Hare there's your problem. If in doubt it the benefit goes to the attacking team in an offside decision. Its in the rules. Its there to stop incidents like this and to remain objective, not to leave it to the subjective opinion of a ref with possible unconscious bias.
the rule is (new as of this year) that if the defender has a deliberate attempt to play the ball and it does to an attacking in an offside position, its not offside because of the deliberate attempt. But if there is a deflection of a defending player and it rebounds to an attacker in an offside position it is offside. Referees have to judge if it was a deliberate attempt or deflection in order to get this call’s correct.
@@oharepd Did you watch the replay. The Villa player purposely hit the ball to try and kick it out but at this point it doesn’t matter because top 4 is over.
@Paul O'Hare - The problem with this situation is that it assumes intent in favour of the defender. If a player tries to block a pass/shot then they have deliberately attempted to change the course of the ball. Ergo their touch should play others on side.
If the ref blew for a pen then it would'nt been over turned by VAR but i think Hendo goes down to easy so yes contact but not enough to over turn the refs original call. Not all contact is a foul. Lfc fan btw i would hate if that was given against us!
i think this season all the referees are beting there bets against Liverpool any team we play with they are against the Reds 🤔🥺🥺 they have to remember we Never walk Alone 💯💯💯❤️❤️❤️
@@HenneDS03 so you're saying VAR couldnt decide whether it was deliberate or not? They have all the video evidence at their disposal. Every football pundit and commentator said he deliberately played the ball. Konsa literally lifted his foot up to his waist to make contact with the ball. Therefore Van Dijk cannot be offside if it comes off a villa player. I've seen this exact situation against us before when Lovern was adjudged to have played the ball, missed the ball trying to boot it and went through to kane who was standing offside and scored. That goal stood btw. 🤷♂️
@@ajthandi9659 the Loveren one you've literally just described a deliberate play. The ref had to go to the monitor because it was a subjective call as to deliberate play by Konsa or not. It wasn't a matter of fact. As it was subjective another referee may have come to a different conclusion.
Over these 2 decisive decisions😂 It still blows my mind , being from Liverpool , that Americans are walking round LA in our kit ,talking about the next game with their boys 😂 imagine in the UK if you were getting hyped over the next Minnesota vikings game everyone would call u gay 😂
Well then how didn’t Jota get a red card against spurs? Karma mate Also The part of the body that the ball hit on Konsa, wasn’t the part that he loved, he flicked his ankle and he it hit his waist, nothing he could do about it
The ref in this game was the guy Klopp squared upto when we got winner against spurs..., how is that allowed? Also why was klopps touchline ban kept till we played last home game and not the following game from the incident. There is a serious agenda against klopp from these refs.
Listen if jota can avoid a sending off for kicking skipp in the head then get over it when a player of yours gets a similar foul and the culprit isn’t sent off
Bro don't explain these basic things to the Bin dipper LiVARpool scum. They always play victim. They know nothing about other clubs woes and act like they are in a bad spot all the time. One of the richest clubs on earth telling others how bad they have it. Clowns. They have zero self awareness.
@@ronaldosui777 if you support arsenal or spurs never won a prem in a decade or if you support united won 1 trophy in 8 years if you support city well you won't because know one supports them
@@michellegovender2090 we just won the carabao but our defence is shit tbh because was injured in the same game I mean what are the odds of that!! (*-*)
The ref was not objective. I’ve heard he was Mancunian and his brother was involved with Man City. Look at the stats, Liverpool have been given more red cards than nearly every team this season. I think Liverpool are a city who stand alone and stand up to injustice. Think we are hated by referees for this, because they are only human and still have contempt and dislike subconsciously. Which makes the difference in some decisions. ‘Sigmund Freud’😂! Nah, it’s true la. But YNWA❤
100% agree, the officials have been so poor this season, some strange decisions, far too inconsistent
Yes referres (premier league one) sucks like it supposed to be 3-1 or 2-1
Do you want Consistency or common sense?
@@oharepd why can't we have both 🤷
@@danmaguire3067 because levels of common sense differ from person to person and common sense is based on the context of a situation. Thus meaning that two similar circumstances could have differing outcomes. Consistency means that similar circumstances are treated equally the same.
@@danmaguire3067If it wasn't for refs you would be battling relegation
I can’t believe that VAR is still a WIP. You’d think they would have the process nailed down by now.
Brother How did Jota not get send off he kick oli skipp in the head
They hate Liverpool
Liverpool have chosen not to cheat this season. This is why we lose lol
yes you are sure
Crazy this was 5 months ago, VAR still shit 🤣
Crazy this comment was 1 month ago , VAR still shit🤣
Stop blaming VAR, blame the shitty people running it.
Ofc
Jesus loves you ✝️
VAR been shit
Like the VAR doesn’t know how to do their job (100% agree)
The stupid thing is the rules, there are some things that VAR cant look at. Its a joke casemiro slides wins the ball his momentum takes his stud across the oponents shin and VAR can check it and its a red card, but aparently the ref saw the mings foul as an attempt to get the ball with momentum being the only reason he caught Gapko, VAR had to go with the refs decision. You couldnt make this crap up.
no var is actually a very good thing as you can actually stand by the rules a lot more clearly its just the refs behind it that gives it a bad look.
Well, now we know...
Agree with u bro,like diaz's goal that they said it was offside,and when the reffree ask var rom,they not say : oh it is on side,not offside,but they said something that make me think they in competence...
Klopp would of been sent off again if he was on the sideline to witness that
Can you update us with what they say about the offside call because that is just ridiculous..
They have already explained it. It was a subjective decision by the referee to deem Konsa deflected the ball. He didn't deem it as a deliberate play by Konsa. Simple. Genuinely don't know what everyone wants.
The culture in football now is not to want to try and understand why decisons have been made and then accept them, the culture amongst football supporters, coaches and players is now just to want to argue why everyone else is wrong and they are right.
@Paul O'Hare there's your problem. If in doubt it the benefit goes to the attacking team in an offside decision. Its in the rules. Its there to stop incidents like this and to remain objective, not to leave it to the subjective opinion of a ref with possible unconscious bias.
the rule is (new as of this year) that if the defender has a deliberate attempt to play the ball and it does to an attacking in an offside position, its not offside because of the deliberate attempt.
But if there is a deflection of a defending player and it rebounds to an attacker in an offside position it is offside.
Referees have to judge if it was a deliberate attempt or deflection in order to get this call’s correct.
@@oharepd Did you watch the replay. The Villa player purposely hit the ball to try and kick it out but at this point it doesn’t matter because top 4 is over.
@Paul O'Hare - The problem with this situation is that it assumes intent in favour of the defender.
If a player tries to block a pass/shot then they have deliberately attempted to change the course of the ball. Ergo their touch should play others on side.
we need foreign referees
Yasssss
Too true
Don’t forget the pen vs Hendo
The whole game was rigid now we can't do anything but very bad calls form reff so 😢
If the ref blew for a pen then it would'nt been over turned by VAR but i think Hendo goes down to easy so yes contact but not enough to over turn the refs original call. Not all contact is a foul. Lfc fan btw i would hate if that was given against us!
@@randomly1552 I think it’s as much contact as their pen
@@randomly1552u guys got jammy we would of beat you if Watkins didn’t put it wide
6 VAR ref have been sacked in La Liga. Why it is not the same for EPL?
I know why! They probably had Mings on Sorare
Lol
😂😂😂
😂
Best league, worst refs
Anybody seeing this after the Spurs game??
Yep. It’s a fricking joke the way we’re being treated by refs.
The refs are all United fans
Me
Me
Corruption.
That's all it is
coming from liverpool, ur point ain't valid
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@unusual0.035how
@@unusual0.035 U obviously haven't watched Liverpool this season
Not corruption it happens to every team its just embarrassing officials
i think this season all the referees are beting there bets against Liverpool any team we play with they are against the Reds 🤔🥺🥺 they have to remember we Never walk Alone 💯💯💯❤️❤️❤️
I agree. They all hate us. YNWA❤
As a villa fan the refs were shocking
❤ i love villa . Utv
I may be a City fan but GET RID OF THESE REFS RN
As a Newcastle fan, this is absolutely disgusting refereeing and Liverpool should receive compensation .
It’s just crazy, how the referee’s act. Even now it’s like that
In all honesty you can say the same for you against spurs when jota kicked skipp in the head
Why did the ref have to go to the monitor for an offside call after it went to VAR?
Because it wasnt just an offside or not Call it was to decide whether it was a deliberate play
@@HenneDS03 so you're saying VAR couldnt decide whether it was deliberate or not? They have all the video evidence at their disposal. Every football pundit and commentator said he deliberately played the ball. Konsa literally lifted his foot up to his waist to make contact with the ball. Therefore Van Dijk cannot be offside if it comes off a villa player.
I've seen this exact situation against us before when Lovern was adjudged to have played the ball, missed the ball trying to boot it and went through to kane who was standing offside and scored. That goal stood btw. 🤷♂️
@@ajthandi9659 im saying they decided it wasnt deliberate, but i agree its a mistake i was crying about it too
@@ajthandi9659 the Loveren one you've literally just described a deliberate play.
The ref had to go to the monitor because it was a subjective call as to deliberate play by Konsa or not. It wasn't a matter of fact. As it was subjective another referee may have come to a different conclusion.
I can see the argument for it both being a deliberate play and not a deliberate play
7 months later and var has yet to improve
Wolves and Liverpool - plagued with bad decisions...
I'm blind l'm deaf l wanna be ref moment
We have to admit var will only give a red if someone break there 2 legs
It's the isact same thing vs spurs with jota and skipp so don't be mad cause it's vs livetpool
That's why I hate liverpool fans
Aw diddums...
Bad decisions but I guess we can’t complain since we have had lucky decisions recently
Other than the jota decision i don't think we had been lucky recently or all season
@@ragibanjumarnob9048 Konate foul on Richarlison and jones offside goal all recently and some others throughout the season
@@J_editzzzzjones goal was onside but i agree the konate decision could of been a pen
@@ragibanjumarnob9048wolves
Im still fuming about arsenal early on in the season. Clear handball, jesus dive, and saka offside
Because "Football betting corporations" always dominate decisions from VAR and referees on the field.
This shit is happening again against our rival VARcity. I guess I am retiring with Klopp
Don't give up bro , we are going to win the title
@@albertjoefrancy7309 ameen brother. inshaAllah
Over these 2 decisive decisions😂
It still blows my mind , being from Liverpool , that Americans are walking round LA in our kit ,talking about the next game with their boys 😂 imagine in the UK if you were getting hyped over the next Minnesota vikings game everyone would call u gay 😂
100% agree. The officials have been so inconsistent and poor this season. Some really strange decisions. If you will miss Jurgen click here
👇
We all hate man United 😂😂😂😂,,, Liverpool fc forever,,,,, scouse
What about that tackle Nigel De Jong did on Xabi Alonso in the world cup final 2010???
Technology, ironically encourages laziness, and deteriorates the authenticity and love of the game
Well then how didn’t Jota get a red card against spurs? Karma mate
Also The part of the body that the ball hit on Konsa, wasn’t the part that he loved, he flicked his ankle and he it hit his waist, nothing he could do about it
Bro if that was me.AND THAT INJURY WAS BAD ITS LOOKS LIKE SOUR RED FOOD.
I mean, for Ming’s, how did Jota not get a red for a very similar challenge against Skipp last year
Mings is a dirty player. Stamped on two guy's faces in the past (Zlatan and Oliveira)
Anyone here watching this after the Newcastle match against psg?
Yeah var still shit sure we all remember the 90 + 9 minutes yolk from the city game. Shoulda been a penalty
I agree with this but I swear. Liverpool fans got an accuse for everything.
The corruption is strong within the officials
im a villa fam and i know we shouldnt have wom
won i mean
@@DanielGreenclose draw*
should have been a good 3 - 3 game
Ok explain how we got robbed because cody gakpo goal was offside it was obvious
The ref in this game was the guy Klopp squared upto when we got winner against spurs..., how is that allowed? Also why was klopps touchline ban kept till we played last home game and not the following game from the incident. There is a serious agenda against klopp from these refs.
Nah I'm happy about the decisions villa are so underrated so yh.
I’m done like var hates us Liverpool fans first Tottenham now it is Aston villa
Now 3-3
Listen if jota can avoid a sending off for kicking skipp in the head then get over it when a player of yours gets a similar foul and the culprit isn’t sent off
What about jota on skipp ur now complaining cause it’s u jota on skipp was worse than mings on gakpo
The same guy gave vvd a red card and his officiating was qstionable agn yestaday
Anyone seen this after burnley and gakpo’s ruled out goal?
Says you when jota bloody tried to kill the spurs player
I feel the same pain as a Brighton fan from Serbia...
this is why they win the league by a point or two man shitty.
All the Premier league refs are pucking shite
Jota should of been sent off
Yea they are so annnyoih as a united fan
LiVARpool fans crying is crazy
As a liverpool fan I agree that the tackle on gakpo was a yellow because mings went for the ball and hit gakpo
This minecraft character likes to cry
9 months later same shit different match
I guess LiVARpool are getting revenge after relying on VAR
regarding the mings tackle, jota did the same tackle against tottenham yet he wasnt send off and would go on to win the game for liverpool
Bro don't explain these basic things to the Bin dipper LiVARpool scum.
They always play victim.
They know nothing about other clubs woes and act like they are in a bad spot all the time.
One of the richest clubs on earth telling others how bad they have it.
Clowns.
They have zero self awareness.
I'm a villa fan and I still think that is a foul
how to explain bro isn’t mad
Loe goals I am A liverpool supporter
Fast forward and now it was doku on maca
Mings shouldve been sent off but so shouldve Jota against spurs
he just talks about liverpool
Don't forget Jota didn't get a red for kicking someone in the face
Fa always against Liverpool
*I’m blind, I’m deaf. I wanna be a ref!*
Still Europa League 🤫🤫
Why does all of THE officials hate liverpoll
This is the prem what are you expecting premier league refereeing for sure smh
And it happens again against city
You are called livarpool for a reason
When are var ever going to learn
Im blind im deaf i wanna be a ref
I know he’s a Manc, but how did Rashford get sent off for unintentional stomp but the foul on Gakpo was fine?
Unreal.
Var has been shit all season
Says a Liverpool fan
Var so rigged I am so mad
Bias, referees😢😢😢😢
villa are so dirty
Short wrong sort ✅️.
Pure cheat end of
How didn’t Jota get sent off against spurs 😂😂
How didn’t skipp get sent off before the jota foul 😂
One thing:
You dont have any silverware other than the fork and the spoon
@@ronaldosui777 who you support
@@ronaldosui777 if you support arsenal or spurs never won a prem in a decade or if you support united won 1 trophy in 8 years if you support city well you won't because know one supports them
@@michellegovender2090 we just won the carabao but our defence is shit tbh because was injured in the same game
I mean what are the odds of that!!
(*-*)
They are joules
Fix prem refs
Livarpool
The ref was not objective. I’ve heard he was Mancunian and his brother was involved with Man City. Look at the stats, Liverpool have been given more red cards than nearly every team this season. I think Liverpool are a city who stand alone and stand up to injustice. Think we are hated by referees for this, because they are only human and still have contempt and dislike subconsciously. Which makes the difference in some decisions. ‘Sigmund Freud’😂! Nah, it’s true la. But YNWA❤
Man United fan
I feel u bro i hate villa
Hope u guys win the leauge now that we are out of the tittle race
this feels like guate vs Jamaica gold cup quarter finals 2023
This is 10 months ago now nothing has changed