Another key part of this is that it's default animations lend to better swap time because wastlander and chap have slower custom animations. It's easily my favorite shotty after two days using it, it's pre nerf qd level snappy
"Should you grind for it? probably not" only applies to pvp. In pve, this is a Strand Enhanced One-Two Punch shotgun, meaning that while monochromatic maestro is on the artifact, it can give strand titans even more melee damage than other one two punch shotguns, in addition to all of the other strand synergies it has. Well worth crafting for PVE because of that (for those wondering why strand titan synergy is so good... banner of war x2 [yes it stacks, you can get the damage buff from both yourself and 1 ally] + synthos + one two punch is *slightly* ridiculous, being able to melt any raid boss or dungeon you can get in melee range of [some even when they don't have adds nearby to make synthos triple your damage and the melee lunge means even the harpy bosses aren't safe as they flee in terror]. 10% extra strand ability damage from dealing damage with the one two punch shotty you have to use anyway [and less important but still worth mentioning, 10% extra shotgun damage after landing a strand ability to compensate for not being a kinetic weapon] makes it even crazier)
@@sosa8549 you know, you'd think this wouldn't you. You'd think that, for a build that only requires strand (something which nearly all players in altars of summoning have access to), a year 1 exotic that i'm fairly sure you can get through a quest now and a half decent roll on 1 of many shotguns, that people would just run this build everywhere and nuke everything, make their lives so much easier. But then you play altars with randoms at all, watch as all of 1 titan i've seen randomly use this build out of the at least 75-100 i've matched with, having reset my rank twice by now, watch as they all dunk powerfuls and do absolutely *nothing* and would certainly fail if i wasn't killing the bosses in, quite literally, 6 melee hits. So you know, maybe for *you* this isn't groundbreaking info, but for a lot of people, knowing this build exists could certainly help them in demolishing what were hard pve encounters in no time flat, and if my comment can be the door for just 1 person to realise the potential of this build, stating it would be worth it. For anyone else reading in, swap synthos for strongholds and put on lament instead of tractor and suddenly you have the single strongest titan build for gms, you're welcome
@@EreptileDysfunctionthe healing and lunge is proabably the most oppressive part but pre-nerf knockout combined with spark of feedback could straight up one hit
It’s really just the whole subclass. I’m a warlock main and I agree that solar, stasis, and even strand titan could all use buffs in pvp but that doesn’t change the fact that arc is still broken
I need to try it more vs wastelander, but from what I played with it, I liked it a lot. The model is super cool to me, synergizes with strand hunter well, origin perk is somewhat niche but seems like it could be good for cleanups on sprees, and bonus of being craftable. Def would have preferred it to be a precision frame tho since fractethyst is only in dares now.
@@gllg430 I actually like the wastelander animation a lot, so that doesn’t really matter for me. Even if it’s a little slower it feels really smooth. Not enough reason to craft sword if you have wastelander imo.
I know they got buffed but I’m just not feeling them still :/ at the very least we got a new “best” lightweight shotgun IMO but this is legit like 2% better than the wastelander so not much of an upgrade if you’re using slideshot opening lol
@@Vysedragon We need a farmable kinetic slot one, currently only frac is the only precision that is in that slot, if anything i'd love if they added one in the first slot.
we are yet to get a craftable Precision, Bungie should’ve made this a Precision. I promise EVERYBODY would’ve been farming for this if they kept the same perk pool
SBMM in some video games is one of the most cancerous mechanics I’ve ever seen. I’m not saying it shouldn’t exist as a whole but in games like Destiny it is absolutely absurd to a point that it makes the game borderline a miserable experience for me. Sometimes you just wanna play crucible and chill, instead every match turns into a sweat fest. Some of them are sweatier than Trials and Rank matches.
You know, revisiting this video, I'm now a sunshot/swordbreaker main on arc hunter and it's probably one of if not the best shotgun we have access to. I consistently duel conditional finality, and if you aim for the head it's like farming hatemail in stardew valley. The thing is basically a strand slug with perfect stats that you get to use in the air for free. 1 headshot from a handcannon = bodyshot chaperone Edit: and you get a movement bonus. The LW pellet buffs a couple seasons back really made this thing strong and people actually sleep on it.
i'd say that lightweights are REALLY good at full-mapping targets in motion, like whenever someone is above me, or sliding, etc. it always kills, 6-7ish meters, but ONLY in these conditions... which makes it kind of meh anywhere else
I like how you can build into the origin trait on this with the perks, not the best for pvp, but it IS very fun. Idk I think building it exactly like wastelander is kinda a waste since wastelander is already great at what it does, so I'd rather build into making this one more unique, even if it isn't quite optimal.
Tried Relic cuz so many content creators have been in it. Its like shooting fish in a barrel. I think the only people going into there is people where a powerful reward is actually something meaningful.
Lightweights - have excellent handling and to compensate, only does 18.33 per pellet (12 total). Aggressives - have bad handling but does 22.25 per pellet (12 total). Conditional Finality - 95 handling, 22.25 damage per pellet AND gas AoE and anti-super capabilities. 👍
I've been wanting to see you try exiles curse, reason why is because it's one of only 2 fusions in the entire game that can roll with slideshot and backup plan combined 🔥
What a Legend! He fuckin new he had like 60+ kills, but for the sake of Relic he said 48 :D Man I miss the days where lobby balancing and connection was thing.
I just realized i think it has the old party crasher sound effect when it shoots, im sold ill play at a disadvantage forever literally just to have the D1 shotgun sound effect back, I HATE the nails on chalkboard sound shotguns make now
On swordbreaker you can craft it with enhanced SS and OS and it has 100 range with those 2 alone and then you add barely shroud and a handling MW and it will have 91 handling with max range which also allows you to use assault mag for when you need to follow up or shoot multiple people a little faster
8:42 hearing content creators bitch about SBMM… it’d be like a professional athlete going to a local rec league and just destroying everyone and saying, “yeah some days I just don’t want to compete.”
If you ask me, I think they should either combine Lightweight and Precision shotties or remove Precision completely. In either scenario, keeping the current lightweight spread. That would balance the one-shot range and handling aspects of both. Aggressive would have more range and lightweight would have higher handling. Not to mention, a precision frame pellet shotgun doesn't really make sense lol
I've been waiting on necrochasm to come back for years now as its my favorite gun from D1. It has come back but I'm a lineman and wouldn't you know it, I get called to Florida last monday to help turn the lights back on and miss the guaranteed drop. I'm happy to help though but I love that they did the drop that way because RNG raid exotics can take dozens of completions to get and some never do. Great video Cross thanks for the videos letting me live vicariously through you and the boys!
I’m still prob gonna use it over like wastelander tho cus with it being adept you can get 100 handling/range prob although I might use quick access over 10 more handling maybe
Being honest here. How much do you all want to bet we will be calling the swordbreaker meta the next time lightweights get a buff. We flock to the best in class so it only makes sense.
As a lightweight main, I will be the first one to admit that this is just the copium archetype nowadays. I just can't let go my Wastelander that I grinded so hard for even after they murdered that archetype... IT WAS SO PERFECT. WHY BUNGIE? *WHY!?*
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Another key part of this is that it's default animations lend to better swap time because wastlander and chap have slower custom animations. It's easily my favorite shotty after two days using it, it's pre nerf qd level snappy
I still cannot unequip Conditional or Decree from my kinetic slot. Just too good. Im curious about Word of Crota though
same pfp
He said "it's wallah time" and wallahed all over them.
It’s a canon event
That was my favorite part
And then came all over my face
@@MakeFutebolGreatAgaincringe as fk my guy just leave
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"Should you grind for it? probably not" only applies to pvp. In pve, this is a Strand Enhanced One-Two Punch shotgun, meaning that while monochromatic maestro is on the artifact, it can give strand titans even more melee damage than other one two punch shotguns, in addition to all of the other strand synergies it has. Well worth crafting for PVE because of that
(for those wondering why strand titan synergy is so good... banner of war x2 [yes it stacks, you can get the damage buff from both yourself and 1 ally] + synthos + one two punch is *slightly* ridiculous, being able to melt any raid boss or dungeon you can get in melee range of [some even when they don't have adds nearby to make synthos triple your damage and the melee lunge means even the harpy bosses aren't safe as they flee in terror]. 10% extra strand ability damage from dealing damage with the one two punch shotty you have to use anyway [and less important but still worth mentioning, 10% extra shotgun damage after landing a strand ability to compensate for not being a kinetic weapon] makes it even crazier)
This is a pvp channel, people assume he’s not talking about pve
You typed all this like it was groundbreaking info, when in reality it’s common sense.😂
Wow I was just wishing for a strand OTP shotty the other day, hell yeah
@@kyle6961 well, yes, but it's good for people to know this stuff anyway. Means you know what to look for and why this is unique if you get one anyway
@@sosa8549 you know, you'd think this wouldn't you. You'd think that, for a build that only requires strand (something which nearly all players in altars of summoning have access to), a year 1 exotic that i'm fairly sure you can get through a quest now and a half decent roll on 1 of many shotguns, that people would just run this build everywhere and nuke everything, make their lives so much easier. But then you play altars with randoms at all, watch as all of 1 titan i've seen randomly use this build out of the at least 75-100 i've matched with, having reset my rank twice by now, watch as they all dunk powerfuls and do absolutely *nothing* and would certainly fail if i wasn't killing the bosses in, quite literally, 6 melee hits.
So you know, maybe for *you* this isn't groundbreaking info, but for a lot of people, knowing this build exists could certainly help them in demolishing what were hard pve encounters in no time flat, and if my comment can be the door for just 1 person to realise the potential of this build, stating it would be worth it.
For anyone else reading in, swap synthos for strongholds and put on lament instead of tractor and suddenly you have the single strongest titan build for gms, you're welcome
That thunder crash through the winding corridor into the well was crazy impressive
All I've learned here is that knockout is still one of the most broken abilities in this video game
Fr dude the damage was never even the problem it was the healing and linge
@@EreptileDysfunctionthe healing and lunge is proabably the most oppressive part but pre-nerf knockout combined with spark of feedback could straight up one hit
he got 1 knockout kill all video bro
This game is impossible to balance. There will always be cheese for every class. It’s just popular to hate on this class at the moment.
It’s really just the whole subclass. I’m a warlock main and I agree that solar, stasis, and even strand titan could all use buffs in pvp but that doesn’t change the fact that arc is still broken
Shotgun looks like it came straight from doom
7:58 Truly one of the Thundercrashes of all time
Did you mean one of the best thundercrashes of all time?
Not to mention conditional just lets you get through this meta with all the wells, titans, and bubbles that are around
Exactly this, I can't rationally use another if I'm using a top slot shotgun. Plus I can still pair with igneous or shayuras which is perfect for me.
I need to try it more vs wastelander, but from what I played with it, I liked it a lot. The model is super cool to me, synergizes with strand hunter well, origin perk is somewhat niche but seems like it could be good for cleanups on sprees, and bonus of being craftable. Def would have preferred it to be a precision frame tho since fractethyst is only in dares now.
I really wish it was energy man, the extra 3 handling is just not making enough of a difference from wastelander unfortunately 😔
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Its not just 3 handling. It has a faster default animation speed than wastlander making it even better
@@gllg430 I actually like the wastelander animation a lot, so that doesn’t really matter for me. Even if it’s a little slower it feels really smooth. Not enough reason to craft sword if you have wastelander imo.
@@Gravlyy yea prolly not enough reason but if u want the best of the best for lightweights than thats now sword
Y not just use riiswalker
The lightweights got buffed and are more consistent. My riiswalker feels good
I know they got buffed but I’m just not feeling them still :/ at the very least we got a new “best” lightweight shotgun IMO but this is legit like 2% better than the wastelander so not much of an upgrade if you’re using slideshot opening lol
They wont make a craftable precision frame.
Garden weapons are gonna become craftable in the future so Prophet of Doom
@@Vysedragon We need a farmable kinetic slot one, currently only frac is the only precision that is in that slot, if anything i'd love if they added one in the first slot.
Waiting patiently for garden weapons to be craftable, prophet of doom is gonna be nice
Wallah: "Not going in the video..."
Editor: "The heck it's not..."
Remember, when the adept drops you can “craft” it, so you can boost stats even more
we are yet to get a craftable Precision, Bungie should’ve made this a Precision. I promise EVERYBODY would’ve been farming for this if they kept the same perk pool
The would never put all these perks onna precision frame
Glad to see you still talking to Nicho, he's been having a rough time. It probably means a lot to him.
SBMM in some video games is one of the most cancerous mechanics I’ve ever seen. I’m not saying it shouldn’t exist as a whole but in games like Destiny it is absolutely absurd to a point that it makes the game borderline a miserable experience for me.
Sometimes you just wanna play crucible and chill, instead every match turns into a sweat fest. Some of them are sweatier than Trials and Rank matches.
Bro is on my beloved Nichos account.
You know, revisiting this video, I'm now a sunshot/swordbreaker main on arc hunter and it's probably one of if not the best shotgun we have access to. I consistently duel conditional finality, and if you aim for the head it's like farming hatemail in stardew valley. The thing is basically a strand slug with perfect stats that you get to use in the air for free. 1 headshot from a handcannon = bodyshot chaperone
Edit: and you get a movement bonus. The LW pellet buffs a couple seasons back really made this thing strong and people actually sleep on it.
"These are the best perks of all time." -
Bungie: _Proceeds to nerf them all_
literally saw Nichos vid on this shotty earlier today, now your on his account lol
Respect the honesty Walluh. Keeping it real.
That thundercrash play was sweet
i'd say that lightweights are REALLY good at full-mapping targets in motion, like whenever someone is above me, or sliding, etc.
it always kills, 6-7ish meters, but ONLY in these conditions... which makes it kind of meh anywhere else
Wallah: lite wait fwaim shotgun no shoot rite
Also wallah: oh I'm actually getting a lot of kills with this thing
What‘s the shader on it? Looks good!
Wallah you are correct, this is the only shotgun with Fragile Focus/Opening Shot combo
I like how you can build into the origin trait on this with the perks, not the best for pvp, but it IS very fun. Idk I think building it exactly like wastelander is kinda a waste since wastelander is already great at what it does, so I'd rather build into making this one more unique, even if it isn't quite optimal.
it also has a shorter pull out animation than wastelander, since wastelander is a tex weapon
What shader did u have on the shotty?
When the adept version drop would that make it the best shotgun ?
@wallah when is the Canada Tour happening? Alberta needs a top tier D2 player.
i built mine shroud, acc, threat, opening with range mw and its a VERY solid shotty for the way I play
"How did that not kill him are u kidding me" Missed a pellet or so cries
Tried Relic cuz so many content creators have been in it. Its like shooting fish in a barrel. I think the only people going into there is people where a powerful reward is actually something meaningful.
wait a minute this aint nicho
Lightweights - have excellent handling and to compensate, only does 18.33 per pellet (12 total).
Aggressives - have bad handling but does 22.25 per pellet (12 total).
Conditional Finality - 95 handling, 22.25 damage per pellet AND gas AoE and anti-super capabilities. 👍
I've been wanting to see you try exiles curse, reason why is because it's one of only 2 fusions in the entire game that can roll with slideshot and backup plan combined 🔥
Bro just casually dropped a 67 and his reaction was just “oh”
I saw nicho's video and then O came to yours and though, did he got his account? I was right
The 2nd Drop in Crota's End I got was this Shotgun with Threat Detector and Opening Shot
The naming scheme on your Apex rigs, LOL! Well done
Wait someone has this crafted already?!
yeah, probably used 3 characters to buy a red border then used deepsight harmonizers
ZkMushroom showed Fragile + Opening roll, it's crazy
just watched nichos vid XD
What website is he viewing perks on? I found the website but I can’t find the Crotas end set
Pulls out conditional finality and laughs
Just fyi to get the benefits of slideshot you actually have to reload a bullet while sliding not really hapening often with a secondary weapon in pvp
i remember running this shotgun back in the day
Shoulda brought back final round on it
My first roll was fragile focus/opening shot and yea it’s pretty good. Sadly i usually run a kinetic HC so i don’t use it as much
I was hoping for another precision frame in the kinetic slot, all we have is Fractethyst.
I got a drop running the raid yesterday with shroud, assault mag, FF and OS. Also got a range masterwork. OHKs at like 6.5m. Pretty good imo
What a Legend! He fuckin new he had like 60+ kills, but for the sake of Relic he said 48 :D
Man I miss the days where lobby balancing and connection was thing.
What shader is that on sword breaker
I was sure that in order for the artifact ball/tangle mod to work you need to be on that subclass, but i guess strand is the exception…
What auto rifle is that?
This has to be the coolest destiny 2 pvp game I've ever seen
You can get fragile focus and opening on the dfa I have and adept one with it
I just realized i think it has the old party crasher sound effect when it shoots, im sold ill play at a disadvantage forever literally just to have the D1 shotgun sound effect back, I HATE the nails on chalkboard sound shotguns make now
I love it when he said “it’s nezeracting time” and nezeracted all over the place
My first drop was assault mag, full choke, slide shot and opening shot.
I really wish Bungie didn't make this thing the size of a rocket launcher when you zoom in. So bulky
as far as im aware shotgun zoom is bugged rn and it is doing less damage while zoomed
The look reminds me of a certain exotic pulse that needs a buff...
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pretty normal shotty perks at this point
Good for a synthoceps (or knockout) build
I really really really want a craftable precision frame that can get qd and os
Hey bungie nerfed matador? I notice that they remove the 80 impact
This def seems better than the wastelander, damn
No stock? This is an s tier fashion weapon
On swordbreaker you can craft it with enhanced SS and OS and it has 100 range with those 2 alone and then you add barely shroud and a handling MW and it will have 91 handling with max range which also allows you to use assault mag for when you need to follow up or shoot multiple people a little faster
I like lightweights the most, like i know it’s me but it’s a feel thing
8:42 hearing content creators bitch about SBMM… it’d be like a professional athlete going to a local rec league and just destroying everyone and saying, “yeah some days I just don’t want to compete.”
I actually use a wasteland er with adagio in 6v6 just because the damage is so nice
Slide shor have already an opening shot after slide no?
Bro casually dropping 67 kills 😭
sucks that it isn't void like it used to be :/ i would've loved to rock out with this thing and dmt
If you ask me, I think they should either combine Lightweight and Precision shotties or remove Precision completely. In either scenario, keeping the current lightweight spread. That would balance the one-shot range and handling aspects of both. Aggressive would have more range and lightweight would have higher handling.
Not to mention, a precision frame pellet shotgun doesn't really make sense lol
I guess we know where all the good perks that should have been on mindbenders went
omg nicho!!
gun feel good, me like gun feel good.
I've been waiting on necrochasm to come back for years now as its my favorite gun from D1. It has come back but I'm a lineman and wouldn't you know it, I get called to Florida last monday to help turn the lights back on and miss the guaranteed drop. I'm happy to help though but I love that they did the drop that way because RNG raid exotics can take dozens of completions to get and some never do. Great video Cross thanks for the videos letting me live vicariously through you and the boys!
You know this isn’t a Aztecross video, right?
@@223ndog it was while I was typing it out on my phone 🤣
Could you try Eidolon Ally paired with an exotic?
I’m still prob gonna use it over like wastelander tho cus with it being adept you can get 100 handling/range prob although I might use quick access over 10 more handling maybe
Being honest here. How much do you all want to bet we will be calling the swordbreaker meta the next time lightweights get a buff. We flock to the best in class so it only makes sense.
Wallah I've got a 66 range with opening shot + fragile focus and trust me it one shots
Looks chunky like a doom double barrel shotty
Damn you just casually dropped a 67 bomb
You are finishing most with melee that's why no tangles
As a lightweight main, I will be the first one to admit that this is just the copium archetype nowadays. I just can't let go my Wastelander that I grinded so hard for even after they murdered that archetype... IT WAS SO PERFECT. WHY BUNGIE? *WHY!?*
The drip is fire brother 💯🙏
Anyone notice it’s nichos account? Hope he’s doing ok
.5-1 meter more isnt make or break id rather enjoy thebincreased movement and slide to close the distance plus great handling
So I gather that the Lightweight shottie buff from a month ago didn't make them competitive compared to Precisions?
No there still garbage
Shoutout nicho
Good, return of the parcel of starsust
If this thing gets an adept version, that means adept mods 😳
It still should have been an energy shotty though. Would have been better
It is getting adept version and I think it will also be semi craftable like root of nightmares
Omg is that wallah big fan :3, but like fr it would be a little more valuable if conditional finality wasn’t the best in the game