Tannoy M1000 Super Red Monitor from the '80s
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- A review of a classic 1980's Tannoy Super Red Monitor. See how it stacks up against the incredible Pioneer TZ9.
Video: • Tannoy M1000 Super Red...
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Thank you for another piece of audio history. You have the greatest collection on the planet. I'm glad you gave the Advents a break as reference speakers, the poor things were getting their butts kicked.
It certainly was time. I had to finally decide a cutoff point for the poor Advents, but now I want to go back and redo some prior reviews, like the Thiels, for example, and see how they fair head to head with the TZ9. So much to do and so much fun! The JBL and Jensens are from a different era altogether, so I am starting to firm up a plan for those reviews which will be equally fun. Stay tuned!
@@stereonicheThiel made some very fine loudspeakers, I’m glad you are going to revisit them.
My God Man... Your vintage collection is beyond mind blowing! I can't even start to imagine the value wrapped up in that collection. Something else Mate.
It is like walking into Willie Wonka's factory each day, except for vintage audio! Fun stuff! :-)
I have a pair of Tannoy gold mercury two speakers. They look fantastic and sound equally great! Vintage speakers, in good condition still sound fantastic. Great vid!
Thanks for sharing! They are awesome speakers!
I have the Lancaster Tannoy gold 15s, all original, given to me by my father who was dating a woman who wanted to get rid of them because they reminded her of her ex.... Her loss, my gain!! 25 years and still rockin!!!
Best deals ever are from a woman scorned! :-)
The Tannoy have such a cool factor, they look about the same size a a Cornwall. What a great piece of audio greatness ,you are a lucky man.
They are good bit larger than the Cornwall at 41" tall (vs 35" for the Cornwall) and about 3" wider. They have quite the heft.
Some of the best speakers I've heard were monster Tannoys, almost the size of a refrigerator on a top end Chinese tube pre and two high power mono block tube amps. Pretty impressive and fantastically dynamic.
They are legendary!
You have a fascinating hobby there; buying stuff like that. I'm relegated to pretty much sticking with the stuff I got, but improving its performance. I do get better sound quality each month. So it's poor me, but not so poor me.
Castle Acoustics in England, which was a cabinet maker extraordinaire, for other speaker companies, made some wide speakers like that, and then then went narrow following the trend and pholosophy that narrower cabinets mean less surface area for cabinet diffraction. Castle Acoustics cabinets are truly a marvel in beauty and build quality. I'm looking for a second pair of Era Design D4 speakers, in glossy black, so I can stack them. Stacked, they make a very formidable loudspeaker. Their cabinets are built like a rock too.
Having the space to do this is key. Had I not moved to this location and had a separate building, this would not have been possible.
These are rare
They are not very common. My point about being more available is with the series and the drivers.
Scott, you’ve really scored some unicorns this month. That Tannoy is a monster and gorgeous. I’m amazed at its condition. Btw, the Brit’s also “hoover” when they vacuum like listening to the “Tannoy”. I just purchased a modern speaker with the same concept. The Mofi Sourcepoint 8. Dual concentric as well.
That's right! I forgot about "Hoover" for vacuuming. Some real scores recently, had to pinch myself a time or two. LOL I've read good things about the Mofi speakers over the years. Maybe I will add a set someday.... when they become vintage.
@@stereoniche I alternate the MoFi with my ADS L710s.
Thanks for another great review and I would love just to hear either of these in action let alone own a pair.
Thanks Michael! If you ever get over this way, reach out and we can do a memorable listening session! :-)
@@stereoniche Thanks Scott
I listen a wide spectrum of music. House, Jazz, but also electro. How is this speaker with electro?
Unfortunately, not a genre I listen to, so I cannot comment.
After living in England for 3 years, I learned why British speakers tend to be a polite voicing. The places I lived were all brick. Bright speakers like proac can be painful without LOTS of treatment and mellow electronics. It's not like more spacious wood homes in the USA.
It does seem most homes are quite intimate in England.
@@stereoniche I was told in the midlands, the average was 900 sq feet. A large flat might be 700.
Have you come across the Leak 2075 the one with the ribbon tweeter
Interesting looking speaker. I've never run across any Leak models that I can recall.
I'm looking for a pair of M1000's as my end game speakers.
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That Tannoy is huge!
Yes it IS!.. But not nearly as large as the "Dreadnought"! That sounds like some super villain from the comics. LOL
Those are 3808 drivers. Ive got a pair in custom built enclosures and another spare set. Someone here said they are good for voices and instruments and challenging on hard rock which is true. I also find them finicky about amplification. Im having very good results with a Fostex 300 power amp and KM SP100 pre amp.
I have the m3000. Very similar but rubber surround so go a little deeper at cost of a couple of dB sensitivity. These are not normal speakers. My experiences: you need to wall or corner load them. In free space they are very dry. The bass is deep and no overhang, but actual level is low. With wall augmentation you’ll get 25hz and plenty of chest thump on rock and dance music. Use a solid state amp with plenty of power. 20w valves cannot handle these or play to their qualities unless you only listen to string quartets. Most 70s/80s rock and pop was monitored on these, they are not for classical music. They do poor material no favours. I also listen on quality head phones (DT 880s) and the voicing is identical. It’s true they will blow you out of the room on rock if you turn them up. Just like your headphones will, they do not soften with volume, they just get louder, seemingly without limit, the sound character not changing. These are not normal speakers. You’ll find it hard to go back, everything else sounds somehow fake, like a pale imitation.
Love your Chanel, hope to see a review of your IMF speakers
Thank you for watching. I will get them going sooner rather than later.
A few years ago I purchased a pair of SM 3000 that were still installed in a studio, just similar to these but with foam surrounds. I really liked their looks standing beside my JBL 4430`s. But just as you said - they need the right material to perform ! Great for voices, acoustic instruments, piano but absolutely unbearable for hard rock, my favourite style. Especially the harsh compression of the (too) small horn was quite (T)annoying. Just the opposite to my JBL`s that can play everything and never get agressive. So the Tannoys had to go - though seeing your`s almost made me regret selling them.
They are certainly "track specific" on their sound. A great speaker, but as with any speakers, you should hear before you buy. 🙂
I wonder what testing through G-R Research might show regarding the Tannoy.
Hmm, not really sure. I don't think the crossover is all that complex. They typically seem to have the most impact on heavily engineered crossovers/drivers.
I'm still looking for another pair or Advents.
They are out there, keep up the search! :-)
I think what I've heard with Tannoy is that they are pretty true to the original sound. They don't really color the music. Something you can't say about most speakers. Vintage Altec being the other.
For the most part, I found that to be true which is why they were used in many recording studios of the day. Vandersteen models also have this characteristic.
Your praising the wrong speaker. Move over a few inches. The Pionere
There is a separate video on the Pioneer TZ9. In it, there is PLENTY of praise! 🙂
And I’ve got some speakers you might be interested in if you can’t ever make a trip to Ohio but it looks like a lot of what you’re picking up is 80s speakers which is cool I’ve got a set that look like they’re probably from the 70s maybe even a little earlier than that because of the way, the baskets are designed on thembut for what I’ve been told they’re hardly sold after speakers amongst the tube gear people it’s got a funky tweeter horn in each cabinet that has actually two inputs for the small tweeter, which I have never seen before so let me know if if you’re interested
Feel free to send me an email at stereoniche@gmail.com
iI heard the new Tannoy Legacy speakers are not as good as the older ones...the tweeters are said to be ear fatiguing😮...shame on Tannoy...it may never be the same😢
If that is the case, what a shame.
First Tannoy «Black» & «Silver» in the late 1940's, early 1950's, then Tannoy «Red» 1957-65, then Tannoy «Gold» ...
Thanks for that. I kind of thought they were earlier, but I could not find good reference details. A "wiki" stated the gold came out in the 60's and reds in the 70's which seemed odd to me. Can you email me any site information or reference? stereoniche@gmail.com
@@stereoniche There's some confusion indeed; the original black-silver-red-gold reference stands for the speakers. In the late 60's or early 70's they started to use «Red» as a reference for pro-cabinets. In short; early Monitor Red's are fitted with Gold speakers. Later the series continued under the same name fitted with HPD's I guess...
@@stereoniche Hi, I sent you a mail from my GMX.account.
@@mischadickerhof5375 HPD's were from the mid 70's. I own Mk1's 295, 315 and 385 HPD's and still learning the history of Tannoy.
Sorry. You did mention them
They are my baseline reference, so they will get mentioned in EVERY video in which I review a higher end speaker. Stay tuned, you will get to see them ongoing.
Your "Bass Line" speaker? Um, No. Perhaps "Control Sample".
Acid Jazz, Funk & Brass 🔈🔉🔊
. "Bass" speaker or transmission "Line" speaker? Single source point or "Line" array?
Wouldn't a "Bass Line" speaker be a tower of woofers?
Maybe the word "Base" should be forbidden in a retail store?
@@TriAmpHiFi Looks like you are having a good time all by yourself. Carry on.
@@stereoniche Will do... lol
Good god this thing is a disaster in design