Not just the business but the employees too, from the (so-called) investigators to the execs. There needs to be convictions, imprisonment and above all, removal of ill-gotten gains ie gains from not only only bonus but salaries too.
Don’t be ridiculous, that would be too easy and all these people involved in this ‘enquiry’ wouldn’t be able to earn the fortunes they are. Plus, now the public have seen all the details the ‘guilty’ can claim they wouldn’t get a fair trial.
The actual crime was by the establishment against the public so the establishment needs to just drag this on to the point that by the time anything happens their friends and compatriots will have passed on. Hardly likely the UK establishment has any regards for the public if not having a positive dislike of them. The death toll this winter will show that I am sure.
It's business no one will be prosecuted, no one will go to prison, on the contrary they will retire with bonuses and a fat pension with a Royal title such as Sir, Lord or Dame.
Think these people are considered as part of the establishment and think they're beyond going to court. Because the establishment will close ranks and protect the them. They won't it's gone to far and the next step should be at the old bailey.
Yes. For an entire Senior management team to not know anything about the organisation they received *massive* amounts of money for "working" for, never to speak to anyone about anything and to know nothing about such a huge issue suggests either total unfitness for their roles or else terrible and unheard of levels of amnesia.
He knew allright and was trying to shutdown the evidence of bonuses for successful prosecutions. Nick Read needs to be prosecuted for being an accessory to a crime another round of coverup. Can't remember
never. They can not afford the compensation costs - nor the next thing that will be the same! Windrush? Cladding on flats? All the same sort of attitude and how government and quasi-government agencies have dealt with workers and the public.
The inquiry has to be completed, and Sir Wyn Williams has published his findings before the CPS can proceed to any prosecutions, and that can only happen if/when police decide to investigate, and if they pass on "a file" to the CPS, and even then the file of any evidence has to be examined by the CPS
There was an incentive to prosecute sub postmasters in the form of bonuses! How wicked that investigaters got bonuses for sending innocent sub postmasters and postmistresses to prison!
No words can express the level of contempt I feel for what was done to innocent people. I hope they will all be compensated at least 3 million pounds each. £600,000 is pitiful for what they went through.
I would say they probably are he has given them a good lifestyle private education for the kids holidays in the best places 5 star all the way. These people don't care about the people who have been prosecuted.
I microcosm of what is going on in our society at the moment. So many inquiries on the go and no outcomes... It's not government pushing back, it's the "establishment".
Disgusting followed by Disgusting. Read is only interested in himself his salary and his bonus. Could not answer even simple questions. Does not care about any serious harm caused to the Postmasters and their families
Did any of these high ranking officials within the post office know what was actually going on…they were definitely receiving huge amounts of money for not knowing what was going on would be the right wording!…
I have never seen a bunch or senior managers of any company suddenly becoming deaf and blind and can not recollect actions that happened in their stewardship of office when it was happening right under their noses, they should be charged with perjury and made to pay back all their wages for the years that they claim they did not know what was happening under their very noses! Post office should be disbanded as a lesson to all senior managers in every company in the UK to show that this level of incomitance will not be tolerated under any circumstances from supposed senior management from any company.
This is exactly what happens day in and day out with big businesses. The higher ups never want to investigate the problem, but are really good at trying to cover up any problems. It's all about covering up and covering their asses for the sake of cash. It's high time that all senior management are held to account and never escape their responsibilities, they take the big bucks for it.
When will Vennells be taken in for questioning by authorities. It’s not in the public interest for this charade to continue. The PM should already have written to her implementing the claw back clauses in her employment contract
The idea that Post Office not only sought to recover missing money but went beyond that and took post masters saving, houses and more and caused some to commit suicide. I guess it is good that at least one person who worked for the organisation now feels guilty about the part they played and has shown remorse. Having heard how the Horizon system was floored from the very beginning thanks to the enquiry, this is truly shocking to me. It is a very good question when are the police and then the CPS going to get to the bottom of what went on and we see people in the dock.
There is a very good video from the enquiry where a chap goes through how the code should have been developed. Horizon not surprisingly was a million miles away from that.@@chrissailing8856
The whole situation is a reminder of how some companies treat their employees. Willing to sit back and watch people jailed, or take their own lives, thinking nobody can touch them.
I can’t recall I can’t remember…..how does he find his way home 🤷🏻♂️ lies lies lies there all covering for each other! The only one who’s had any balls to speak out is the whistle blower Fujitsu guy!
Things might change after this inquiry reports back, certainly THERE ARE SOME FACES X50, WHO DESERVE PRISON TIME & lose of homes under Proceeds of Crime Act. The PO board have all insured themselves for over £10Million each, so that tells you something is about to happen.
As usual...when the day of reckoning comes...all those with all the responsibility have none of the accountability. Spineless...every single one of. Not a single unreserved apology.
As a good start these people must have their driving licences withdrawn due to suffering severe memory loss which is a requirement in law to declare to DVLA.
Many people lost their lives and livelihoods. After this long WHY is there not a single person in jail for wrong doing. Where is the Justice for all the lives ruined ?
Over a £ billion set aside by the labour government to pay damages to the post masters. I should be a priority to recover monies from the managers pension pots, plus's give them prison time.
I wonder if he remembers if he went to work or not. Or does he need to ask the board cause he’s not totally familiar with the answer! Put him behind bars and see if he remembers anything ! And get all his bonuses and fraudulently gain monies off them all
What horrors have these poor people been put through at no fault of their own. It’s amazing how no one can remember the intimidation and bullying that was inflicted on absolutely innocent employees. Will similar treatment be inflicted on these bullies as they inflicted on innocent men and women. Some of these people are dead now because of direct action against them by their masters at the Post Office. Will the people responsible for this horrendous action face the consequences? When?
Read is quite clearly not up to the job. He talks a good game . . . but has in fact failed abysmally to tackle most the problems facing this dreadfully run company. To think he will be in office for another six months is staggering. I agree with Sir Alan. The sooner the Post Office is wound up and their business handed over to others, the better.
How can all the post office top brass think they have done nothing wrong when you have ruined so many lives and you got paid for doing this to INNOCENT PEOPLE
"I can't recall" = I recall that very well, but anything I say will very likely incriminate me, so I'm going to say I can't recall. Now please pay me my massive pension, let me keep all my bonuses and leave me alone. But if you're going to hand out any punishments please let that be in about 10 years time when nearly everyone has forgotten about this and my punishment will be a ticking off because 'I've already suffered enough having had to attend the inquiry'.
It's time that the English Dictionary included all the other interpretations of Justice that have been highlighted in this case! How many victims have had Justice? How many in the post that instigate this miscarriage of Justice have receive Justice? It is disgusting that it has taken so long to start to be put right!!!!
Anyone else see a similarity between this geezer and wee Krankie in that, considering their lofty positions, they don't seem to have a very good recollection of events in the not too distant past? How on earth can people with such poor recollections be in such lofty positions in either government or business?? Hmmmm.
It just gets worse worse he is either lying or stupid how come the PO were abke to recover more than the law allows. Nothing less than prison for the lot.
Post was concerned more about convicting Than finding out the reason so many accounts were out of whack and correctly managing the problem. Very poor management. I worked in IT for 30 years and i made mistakes but they were picked up by thorough testing prior to getting loose on the public. The worst failures i came across was when a sys prog modified an assembler program to speed up the system and bypassed all testing procedures. It only takes one cowboy. Most of the problem was the poor design by ICL. Whilst Fujitsu only inherited the problem there strategy to grow was by buying up other software companies rather than developing thier own software.
10 years later still talking absolute crap in courts still no one imprisoned or officially blamed. Lets face it this will be swept under the rug with everthing else wrong in this country.
Criminal court for many senior managers and also the investigators who seemed to be paid for finding people guilty. This will never happen as the government and establishment will delay everything and through as many spanner’s into the work as they can.
this cheat was inadvertently sent a malicious email which he says he never read and then somehow inadvertently forwarded on ! of course he's not lying he's posh
Hardly a shitshow, this is an excellent enquiry, learning the minutiae of how rouge managment operate. We need more spotlighting of misconduct, MPs cash 4 questions next please😂
Imagine, at your place of work, some money goes missing. You get blamed. If you deny it you are threatened with court resulting in prison. Or if you admit it you just get a suspended sentence or community punishment. So to avoid prison you admit guilt. Over and done with you think. Then your company sues you for court costs because you were found guilty, you owe £350,000 in court costs. Your life ruined. This company is called the Post Office. Their logo is " whatever you need us for, we're here for you". They spent £100 million in expensive lawers to try to avoid paying £58 million in compensation. The class action saw the incorrectly convicted see £20,000 in compensation after court costs. The executive salaries were between £250,000 and £500,000. Post Office investigators were given bonuses for every Horizon conviction
Culturally, existing historic PO employees don't seem to have shifted their attitudes one jot. No one appears to challenge the line to take, which is "Let's close this down" epitomising old attitudes within the PO, especially held among lawyers for decades, symbolised by the legal stance that we don't owe him anything. Not a hint of empathy towards him, as he finds his past roles difficult to live with. Rather he might start some legal action, so we'll stonewall. Naturally Nick doesn't remember and how convenient that there is no trail to show what his PA did. If questioned, would she have an equally bad memory of 2021 or would she dare to throw her ex-boss under a bus?
Can’t wait for the track and trace £36billion costs enquiry . Imagine what goes on in Whitehall they are made of the same fact same schooling and social circles .
Were any S Yorks police officers given bonuses for wilful avoidance of inconvenient evidence in 1999 on the event of embarrassed counsel Ian Groome Paradise Chambers realisation of reliance on bundled false instrument Sept 7th 1998 in Sheffield tribunal ? These prosecutions weren't mistakes just unaccountable. Weaponised Bankruptcy government and S Yorks police backed. R I P Jill Dando
its beyond absurd that these executives will want the court to believe that they did not receive or read emails addressed to themselves, yet will try to imply that their underlings receive emails addressed to them ...public school BS
People like this man and other totally incompetent post office employees and consultants should re recompensing the sub-postmasters - not the UK tax-payer
Sick! Time wasting while some innocent people have died, faced financial ruin and / or have been publicly humiliated. Prison, fines and compensation to those who deserve justice.
More vague answers about process, who sent what to whom, I dont recall that, I only acted as a conduit, I didnt make any decisions, no one told me, blah blah blah. Meantime the lawyers are burning through millions of pounds and wasting time.
This is one of the more disgusting examples of intentional misconduct I've yet heard in my life.....the lives ruined. Was anyone intentionally changing the amounts at Fujitsu Bracknell?
Champerty, maintenance and barratry used to be criminal offences before 1967. Now its standard practise in england and wales. The lawyers will keep on going until there is no one left to steal from.
What a horrific way of the Post Office getting money!! Take people’s homes and life savings. Wow, it’s sick.
Not just the business but the employees too, from the (so-called) investigators to the execs.
There needs to be convictions, imprisonment and above all, removal of ill-gotten gains ie gains from not only only bonus but salaries too.
@@c-9233 Mr Bradshaw must have been rubbing his hands one big sleezy investigator
the vicar of marmon on an orgasmic run for money.she soon showed us who boss.still free to eat food with out plastic spoons.
Money that was never lost in the first place!
“Recovery” isn’t the right word for it. “Theft” might be.
@@patrikfloding7985Absolutely
Get vennells and the rest in front of a criminal court, no more nonsense!
Don’t be ridiculous, that would be too easy and all these people involved in this ‘enquiry’ wouldn’t be able to earn the fortunes they are. Plus, now the public have seen all the details the ‘guilty’ can claim they wouldn’t get a fair trial.
The actual crime was by the establishment against the public so the establishment needs to just drag this on to the point that by the time anything happens their friends and compatriots will have passed on. Hardly likely the UK establishment has any regards for the public if not having a positive dislike of them. The death toll this winter will show that I am sure.
We dont prosecute priests in this country
It's business no one will be prosecuted, no one will go to prison, on the contrary they will retire with bonuses and a fat pension with a Royal title such as Sir, Lord or Dame.
Think these people are considered as part of the establishment and think they're beyond going to court. Because the establishment will close ranks and protect the them. They won't it's gone to far and the next step should be at the old bailey.
Another highly paid boss who was never told or did not know what was going on in his company. What a load of Bull.
Yes. For an entire Senior management team to not know anything about the organisation they received *massive* amounts of money for "working" for, never to speak to anyone about anything and to know nothing about such a huge issue suggests either total unfitness for their roles or else terrible and unheard of levels of amnesia.
@@ChoppingtonOtter Both of those things.
He knew allright and was trying to shutdown the evidence of bonuses for successful prosecutions.
Nick Read needs to be prosecuted for being an accessory to a crime another round of coverup.
Can't remember
Waffling instead of answering.
To do that piece of work
When are the government going to instruct the CPS to proceed with criminal charges against this lot ????
never. They can not afford the compensation costs - nor the next thing that will be the same! Windrush? Cladding on flats? All the same sort of attitude and how government and quasi-government agencies have dealt with workers and the public.
@@suecharnock9369 They can afford it - they print money remember.
@alanrogers9597 CPS only want to prosecute those that are a threat to the "establishment"... maybe call on Reform to intervene.
these people are too rich to go to court .who do think helped jail so many people .
The inquiry has to be completed, and Sir Wyn Williams has published his findings before the CPS can proceed to any prosecutions, and that can only happen if/when police decide to investigate, and if they pass on "a file" to the CPS, and even then the file of any evidence has to be examined by the CPS
There was an incentive to prosecute sub postmasters in the form of bonuses! How wicked that investigaters got bonuses for sending innocent sub postmasters and postmistresses to prison!
and are the people running the "compensation" schemes now receiving bonuses for not paying out?
Will that money now be reclaimed under the proceeds of crime act?
Very good idea
Exactly...
Post Office paid this clown over £3 million for what ?
To do as they wanted , see only what they wanted him to see 😂😂😂😂
Tory donor? Jobs for the boys?
We want that money back for SPMs and taxpayers. Don't just jail these people, take their assets and make them work hard in jail for their keep.
It's what we do in this country .
its about time all these unaware managers were stripped of their assets and life savings.
Didn't you'll know it's not about the workers ...its all about the rich getting richer
No words can express the level of contempt I feel for what was done to innocent people. I hope they will all be compensated at least 3 million pounds each. £600,000 is pitiful for what they went through.
I found it so upsetting hearing what the people went through. Oh those poor people.
@@Pamela-df5wr Yeah, the level of heartlessness is unbelievable.
If this happened in the USA they would have received millions
@@TracyHeaford-CreweI think you may be right, but justice doesn't seem to work that way in this country if huge corporations are involved.
Absolutely a horrible man, I’m sure his family are proud of him
I would say they probably are he has given them a good lifestyle private education for the kids holidays in the best places 5 star all the way. These people don't care about the people who have been prosecuted.
Doctors need to urgently investigate the epidemic of amnesia associated with Post Office management!
I microcosm of what is going on in our society at the moment.
So many inquiries on the go and no outcomes...
It's not government pushing back, it's the "establishment".
We know the outcome..."lessons will be learned". They probably have it written up ready.. since it's always the same.
Disgusting followed by Disgusting. Read is only interested in himself his salary and his bonus. Could not answer even simple questions. Does not care about any serious harm caused to the Postmasters and their families
This is so shocking that for confidence to be re - established in British institutions the Criminal Prosecutions must take place as soon as possible
Good grief. Years of inquiry with no one found crimminaly guilty of obstruction. It makes a mockery of justice.
Did any of these high ranking officials within the post office know what was actually going on…they were definitely receiving huge amounts of money for not knowing what was going on would be the right wording!…
And Vennels is still a respected millionaire instead of a criminal in prison.
We all know she will face no consequences.
She will face a crowd funded private prosecution if the Police don’t act in the public interest
Just when you think it can't get even more disgusting, it does!
I have never seen a bunch or senior managers of any company suddenly becoming deaf and blind and can not recollect actions that happened in their stewardship of office when it was happening right under their noses, they should be charged with perjury and made to pay back all their wages for the years that they claim they did not know what was happening under their very noses! Post office should be disbanded as a lesson to all senior managers in every company in the UK to show that this level of incomitance will not be tolerated under any circumstances from supposed senior management from any company.
Do you not understand the power of money.
The red post office logo in every town, city in the UK must be removed and forever shamed. It can't remain in its toxic form!
This is exactly what happens day in and day out with big businesses. The higher ups never want to investigate the problem, but are really good at trying to cover up any problems. It's all about covering up and covering their asses for the sake of cash. It's high time that all senior management are held to account and never escape their responsibilities, they take the big bucks for it.
Its a British sickness!!!!!!!!!!!!! MOST if not all so called managers exist off the backs of honest hardworking people.
How can he NOT know the answer to such a question immediately.
Sure he knows, or he's into dementia and should be sectioned
When will Vennells be taken in for questioning by authorities. It’s not in the public interest for this charade to continue. The PM should already have written to her implementing the claw back clauses in her employment contract
What was management paid for? They clearly knew nothing about what was going on in the company, so what did they do all day?
Apparently he was obsessed with his pay and bonuses and was trying to get his pay doubled, words fail me.
The idea that Post Office not only sought to recover missing money but went beyond that and took post masters saving, houses and more and caused some to commit suicide. I guess it is good that at least one person who worked for the organisation now feels guilty about the part they played and has shown remorse. Having heard how the Horizon system was floored from the very beginning thanks to the enquiry, this is truly shocking to me. It is a very good question when are the police and then the CPS going to get to the bottom of what went on and we see people in the dock.
Every but every IT System has bugs, glitches, code errors etc.
A complex IT system with less than 50 bugs errors etc. is doing well.
There is a very good video from the enquiry where a chap goes through how the code should have been developed. Horizon not surprisingly was a million miles away from that.@@chrissailing8856
The whole situation is a reminder of how some companies treat their employees.
Willing to sit back and watch people jailed, or take their own lives, thinking nobody can touch them.
Spot on
I can’t recall I can’t remember…..how does he find his way home 🤷🏻♂️ lies lies lies there all covering for each other! The only one who’s had any balls to speak out is the whistle blower Fujitsu guy!
As if any executive ever lost their home or life savings
Things might change after this inquiry reports back, certainly THERE ARE SOME FACES X50, WHO DESERVE PRISON TIME & lose of homes under Proceeds of Crime Act. The PO board have all insured themselves for over £10Million each, so that tells you something is about to happen.
The PO execs should lose their homes and bank accounts.
As usual...when the day of reckoning comes...all those with all the responsibility have none of the accountability. Spineless...every single one of. Not a single unreserved apology.
WHEN ARE THESE CALLOUS AND CORRUPT SENIOR POST OFFICE PEOPLE GOING TO FACE JUSTICE AND HOPEFULLY, JAIL.
Absolutely disgusting!!
When are the prosecution’s going to start?
Its a sure bet we'll make Christmas with no arrests so I'll check in next year.
As a good start these people must have their driving licences withdrawn due to suffering severe memory loss which is a requirement in law to declare to DVLA.
Many people lost their lives and livelihoods. After this long WHY is there not a single person in jail for wrong doing. Where is the Justice for all the lives ruined ?
Over a £ billion set aside by the labour government to pay damages to the post masters. I should be a priority to recover monies from the managers pension pots, plus's give them prison time.
I wonder if he remembers if he went to work or not. Or does he need to ask the board cause he’s not totally familiar with the answer! Put him behind bars and see if he remembers anything ! And get all his bonuses and fraudulently gain monies off them all
I think there is enough evidence for the cps threshold to charge these clerks now!
Imagine actually knowing what they did and incentivising doing more of it.
if no one goes to prison for this, any faith I had in justice will be irrevocably destroyed
It's imperative that the CPS bring these people to stand before judge and jury.
How corrupt is that? Prosecuting with incentives to take people to court.
What horrors have these poor people been put through at no fault of their own. It’s amazing how no one can remember the intimidation and bullying that was inflicted on absolutely innocent employees. Will similar treatment be inflicted on these bullies as they inflicted on innocent men and women. Some of these people are dead now because of direct action against them by their masters at the Post Office. Will the people responsible for this horrendous action face the consequences? When?
Scandellous!!... :( *ALL THIS SHUD BE MADE PUBLIC & Guilty persons Prosecuted!!... :(
Read is quite clearly not up to the job. He talks a good game . . . but has in fact failed abysmally to tackle most the problems facing this dreadfully run company. To think he will be in office for another six months is staggering.
I agree with Sir Alan. The sooner the Post Office is wound up and their business handed over to others, the better.
Uh ho....Amnesia setting in yet again...
Cannot believe this. It's madness.
How can all the post office top brass think they have done nothing wrong when you have ruined so many lives and you got paid for doing this to INNOCENT PEOPLE
"I can't recall" = I recall that very well, but anything I say will very likely incriminate me, so I'm going to say I can't recall. Now please pay me my massive pension, let me keep all my bonuses and leave me alone. But if you're going to hand out any punishments please let that be in about 10 years time when nearly everyone has forgotten about this and my punishment will be a ticking off because 'I've already suffered enough having had to attend the inquiry'.
'No recollection '.......It was 2021......you were a senior Executive........ disgraceful! 😮
His pants are on fire
We've seen enough. Time for criminal proceedings.
This could be called the Hagfish defence. Produce a mass of slime.
Still not all been paid either. Starmer saying we are going to do the right thing and make changes. He is a liar.
Judge, jury and executioner in one isn’t a great idea. Shocking combination of incompetence and callousness.
It's time that the English Dictionary included all the other interpretations of Justice that have been highlighted in this case! How many victims have had Justice? How many in the post that instigate this miscarriage of Justice have receive Justice? It is disgusting that it has taken so long to start to be put right!!!!
Gosh, this lot all have really bad memories. Odd that.
He put his PA in the E-Mail chain as a blocker & to be able to deflect that he knew of this.
Anyone else see a similarity between this geezer and wee Krankie in that, considering their lofty positions, they don't seem to have a very good recollection of events in the not too distant past?
How on earth can people with such poor recollections be in such lofty positions in either government or business??
Hmmmm.
It just gets worse worse he is either lying or stupid how come the PO were abke to recover more than the law allows. Nothing less than prison for the lot.
Post was concerned more about convicting Than finding out the reason so many accounts were out of whack and correctly managing the problem. Very poor management. I worked in IT for 30 years and i made mistakes but they were picked up by thorough testing prior to getting loose on the public. The worst failures i came across was when a sys prog modified an assembler program to speed up the system and bypassed all testing procedures. It only takes one cowboy. Most of the problem was the poor design by ICL. Whilst Fujitsu only inherited the problem there strategy to grow was by buying up other software companies rather than developing thier own software.
A posh voice with a corrupt soul.
They should be taken out of their pensions.
Pompous git!! He obviously doesn’t give a damn about ordinary people - just the success of his career ugh!! Climb back under your rock Mr Read!
I remember as a child 14 yrs two post office "investagaters" comming into my home a grilling me over a distant relative they were investigating..
It's amazing how they all turn into Sgt. Schultz when put on the stand.
10 years later still talking absolute crap in courts still no one imprisoned or officially blamed. Lets face it this will be swept under the rug with everthing else wrong in this country.
Criminal court for many senior managers and also the investigators who seemed to be paid for finding people guilty. This will never happen as the government and establishment will delay everything and through as many spanner’s into the work as they can.
The culture of POL hasn't changed.
I don't recall.
this cheat was inadvertently sent a malicious email which he says he never read and then somehow inadvertently forwarded on ! of course he's not lying he's posh
Odious,corrupt,smug and criminally incompetent.
Just when is this Shitshow going to end, and there flung in jail.
Don't hold your breath. Vennels was a fall gall. The rot goes much higher up that that.
Hardly a shitshow, this is an excellent enquiry, learning the minutiae of how rouge managment operate.
We need more spotlighting of misconduct, MPs cash 4 questions next please😂
No one is gping to jail
Imagine, at your place of work, some money goes missing. You get blamed. If you deny it you are threatened with court resulting in prison. Or if you admit it you just get a suspended sentence or community punishment. So to avoid prison you admit guilt. Over and done with you think. Then your company sues you for court costs because you were found guilty, you owe £350,000 in court costs. Your life ruined. This company is called the Post Office. Their logo is " whatever you need us for, we're here for you". They spent £100 million in expensive lawers to try to avoid paying £58 million in compensation. The class action saw the incorrectly convicted see £20,000 in compensation after court costs. The executive salaries were between £250,000 and £500,000. Post Office investigators were given bonuses for every Horizon conviction
That response saying sorry shows how sorry they really are…
Culturally, existing historic PO employees don't seem to have shifted their attitudes one jot. No one appears to challenge the line to take, which is "Let's close this down" epitomising old attitudes within the PO, especially held among lawyers for decades, symbolised by the legal stance that we don't owe him anything. Not a hint of empathy towards him, as he finds his past roles difficult to live with. Rather he might start some legal action, so we'll stonewall. Naturally Nick doesn't remember and how convenient that there is no trail to show what his PA did. If questioned, would she have an equally bad memory of 2021 or would she dare to throw her ex-boss under a bus?
Can’t wait for the track and trace £36billion costs enquiry . Imagine what goes on in Whitehall they are made of the same fact same schooling and social circles .
Best Tony Blair impersonator ever.
Were any S Yorks police officers given bonuses for wilful avoidance of inconvenient evidence in 1999 on the event of embarrassed counsel Ian Groome Paradise Chambers realisation of reliance on bundled false instrument Sept 7th 1998 in Sheffield tribunal ? These prosecutions weren't mistakes just unaccountable. Weaponised Bankruptcy government and S Yorks police backed. R I P Jill Dando
Isn't it a great country we live in that allow bonuses to be paid if you can destroy others lives and families
He should be subject to proceeds of crime investigations.
Criminals. Needs to be charged
Usual implausible denyability.
Too many worms wriggling of the hook. Jail time for all these unexcusable accusations against post masters.
its beyond absurd that these executives will want the court to believe that they did not receive or read emails addressed to themselves, yet will try to imply that their underlings receive emails addressed to them ...public school BS
Is there no end to the dodgy posh fellas in this sorry saga?
Is it just me, but this witness comes across as an extremely unpleasant character.
This man as no principals, only interested in his own greed, people working behind the counter serving the public are worth 10 of him.
Why are none of these people in jail!!!
Frightening, worse than 1984.
People like this man and other totally incompetent post office employees and consultants should re recompensing the sub-postmasters - not the UK tax-payer
Sick! Time wasting while some innocent people have died, faced financial ruin and / or have been publicly humiliated.
Prison, fines and compensation to those who deserve justice.
More vague answers about process, who sent what to whom, I dont recall that, I only acted as a conduit, I didnt make any decisions, no one told me, blah blah blah. Meantime the lawyers are burning through millions of pounds and wasting time.
The bosses took advantage of this easy money because they had the post masters taking the blame.
ahhh the old "Sorry I don't recall" excuse.
Agree
Stutter stutter stutter.....i don't recall
This is one of the more disgusting examples of intentional misconduct I've yet heard in my life.....the lives ruined.
Was anyone intentionally changing the amounts at Fujitsu Bracknell?
Why is this guy not in jail?
It seems that the downside of becoming a 'captain of industry' is the side issue of developing selective memory syndrome.
Champerty, maintenance and barratry used to be criminal offences before 1967. Now its standard practise in england and wales. The lawyers will keep on going until there is no one left to steal from.