Belgrade to Bar on Sleeper Train | Serbia to Montenegro by Lovćen Scenic Night Train in Balkans

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  • Welcome to the travel report from a scenic railway journey across the Balkans, from Belgrade in Serbia to Bar in Montenegro.
    Lovćen sleeper train R433 “Balkan Express”: Zeumun - Belgrade - Podgorica - Sutomore - Bar.
    Filmed in May 2024.
    00:00 Intro
    00:14 Travel Info
    01:12 Belgrade & Station
    03:57 Lovćen train
    05:50 The Train Journey
    05:50 Montenegro Scenery
    14:13 Mala Rijeka Viaduct
    17:49 Montenegro Scenery
    19:20 Podgorica
    21:37 Lake Skadar
    23:44 Sutomore
    24:26 Bar

ความคิดเห็น • 93

  • @izil1fe
    @izil1fe 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    This has a potential to become one of the biggest tourists train travel attractions in Europe !
    Amazing route, amazing scenery.
    It just needs to be refreshed so to say..
    renovated, modernized.. equiped with new tracks.. trains.. services.
    stations..
    I see a VERY bright future for this route!

  • @pathfinder2reality
    @pathfinder2reality 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    We used to go on a vacation every year by train from Belgrade. We used to put our car on the special car wagon and travel in a sleeping car to Bar. Then we would disembark with our car in Bar snd continue to our place. Good memories

  • @172Manager
    @172Manager 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    I also traveled on this beautiful night train last year. We were almost 2 hours late in Bar. This meant that you could also see the beautiful mountain route on the Montenegro side in daylight. You could buy Turkish coffee for one euro from a sleeping car conductor and yes, there was no breakfast, but you can live with it. There are worse things, I can only recommend the trip to everyone, because this route is unique in Europe. In Bar there are many seaside resorts on the Adriatic, where you can find beautiful bays and beaches to relax and enjoy by the sea. I will definitely travel on this train again.🚂💯👌

    • @Europe-By-Train
      @Europe-By-Train  29 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I didn't know about the Turkish coffee onboard :) I knew there was no breakfast and got some bakery and water earlier, so no problem at all. It was a great experience overall, only the border check at night is a minus. I visited Budva and Kotor after. Would do it all again for sure.

    • @172Manager
      @172Manager 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The Turkish coffee was a coincidence because only one sleeper car, Taner, prepared it privately and unofficially for the guests on a camping gas cooker. So as far as fire safety is concerned, you can't look. Some passengers smoked with us too. It's allowed in Montenegro because it's not part of the EU, but the train was still a great experience. The border control is a bit annoying at night. You're not allowed to take photos. I was immediately shouted at by a police officer because I just wanted to take a photo of the sign for Prijepolje Teretna station. I also recommend the Šarganska osmica steam train (about 30 km from Uzice).

    • @Europe-By-Train
      @Europe-By-Train  29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Wow, you had an authentic experience with the gas cooker. No grilling sausages on the open fire? :D Compared to that, my carriage felt so posh, like the Orient Express - my fellow passengers went to bed with chickens, no parties, no fights, empty corridors, smelled smoke from the neighbouring cabin just once during the journey… just boring :)
      Stations in the region must have some kind of top-secret classification or I don’t know…. I was shouted at by security for recording inside the Sarajevo station… like there was anything to see through the smoke anyway…

    • @MegaGianni51
      @MegaGianni51 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Schifo le scritte sui vagoni🤮

  • @juanmanuelpereda8045
    @juanmanuelpereda8045 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Thanks for sharing! I also travelled this route on a torrid August day in 1989, just before Yugoslavia started breaking into pieces, the train was overcrowded and we didn't manage to enjoy the astonishing landscape. I heard later the route runs along the world's second deepest canyon after the Colorado. Arriving in Bar, feeling the nearness of the Adria, enjoying its freshness and the relaxed and cozy summer feeling was a well deserved prize after so long sweating. Congrats also for the subtitling letting the train and nature noises starring the video score.

    • @Europe-By-Train
      @Europe-By-Train  24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thank you for your feedback and sharing your experience. It is interesting to read about and imagine the same journey just 35 years ago.

  • @dzonikg
    @dzonikg 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    Trains have not been changed in 50 years.But maybe its good thing

    • @Europe-By-Train
      @Europe-By-Train  29 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      I think it is a good thing. If it works, I prefer this one with opening window than new one without and dirty from the outside. For sure, it brings a completely different experience.

    • @Jessica-Jones732
      @Jessica-Jones732 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      If they work well and maintained to a good standard then keep them,don’t scrap something that works because anything newer won’t last as long

    • @ruskar.6636
      @ruskar.6636 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@Jessica-Jones732 moi ,je suis parti avec ma fille, petit fils et une copine en train de Uzice à Sutomore il y 2 an. On à pris couchette pour 4 personnes . C'était PARFAIT ❤😂

  • @_autom
    @_autom 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    great video, the mountain scenery is just stunning

  • @MrAki00
    @MrAki00 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I hope you had pleasant journey .

    • @Europe-By-Train
      @Europe-By-Train  17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I had, it was a nice experience.

  • @david5845
    @david5845 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Great..again! That route was on my list a few years back. Wonderful! The Zagreb to Split Sleeper is worth a go. First class....and cheap. Montenegro is a beautiful country. Cheers

    • @Europe-By-Train
      @Europe-By-Train  28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks. It is, hope to return one day. Zagreb - Split is also on my list.

  • @user-kp6qk9vf8f
    @user-kp6qk9vf8f 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    In the 70's you could travel from Malmö to Bar in a sleeping car/sitting car.

    • @Europe-By-Train
      @Europe-By-Train  25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Wow, I didn't know.
      EC 270 Meridian through Budapest, Bratislava, Prague, Berlin.

    • @user-kp6qk9vf8f
      @user-kp6qk9vf8f 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Europe-By-Train then to Sassnitz, Trelleborg and Malmö.

    • @Europe-By-Train
      @Europe-By-Train  25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      What was the service between Sassnitz and Trelleborg?

    • @user-kp6qk9vf8f
      @user-kp6qk9vf8f 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Europe-By-Train ferry service for rail cars.

  • @sergiomatiash5977
    @sergiomatiash5977 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I missed my flight because of this train😮 what a memories...

    • @Europe-By-Train
      @Europe-By-Train  20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      How long was the delay? I heard of 5 hours delay.

    • @sergiomatiash5977
      @sergiomatiash5977 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Europe-By-Train em...as I remember that time was 3,5 hours)))

    • @Suhas_reddy112
      @Suhas_reddy112 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for letting us know, I wont travel on last day by this train - may be plan before haah

  • @Eurobazz
    @Eurobazz 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    A great video. I like the fact you let your subtitles and interior and exterior scenes do all the talking. Well done!

    • @Europe-By-Train
      @Europe-By-Train  29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thank you for you kind comment.

  • @alexgorki
    @alexgorki 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great shots and video! I traveled to the Montenegrin seaside with my parents, traditionally in a sleeping car. These are the same ones from the 80s.

  • @dovla73
    @dovla73 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very well recorded. Thanx for this

    • @Europe-By-Train
      @Europe-By-Train  4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you, glad you liked it.

  • @argavenharge9704
    @argavenharge9704 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Its one of most spctacular route in Europe!I was young ,and remember when Yougoslavia. autorithies show to R.Mcnamara,head of World bank,from helikopter,where will be the route,he said that its insane.

  • @Eurotrips.24
    @Eurotrips.24 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Привет! Побольше подобных видео на канал! Удачи!

  • @matematika1000
    @matematika1000 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Thank you for the video! The line is really due for reconstruction. From what I've read before, it was supposed to be done by Russia. Perhaps delayed indefinitely because of their war, unfortunately.

    • @Europe-By-Train
      @Europe-By-Train  28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It is possible. Destruction won over construction :(

    • @ruskar.6636
      @ruskar.6636 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      C'est toujours la faute aux russes 😂. Mon Dieu 😊

  • @zdravkojasovic9397
    @zdravkojasovic9397 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Srbiji nije potrebna neka nova izgradnja pruge Beograd-BAR iz mnogo razloga.
    Skupa rekonstrukcija pruge,skupe usluge Luke Bar,skupa nabavka novih vagona,veoma skupe usluge ljetovanja turista,nesigurnost srpskih gradjana na boravku u CG.
    Sta je alternative?.
    Ulaganje prema luci SOLUN,bilo bi mnogo korisnije I jeftinije za sve ono sto je skupo prema I u CG.

    • @user-hn9tq5yf2n
      @user-hn9tq5yf2n 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Slažem se u potpunosti.

  • @user-cd9rd7jb2z
    @user-cd9rd7jb2z 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This is a really unique route with spectacular views. for this route, what are your recommendations for hotel accommodation / airbnb

  • @opagodaswirling9383
    @opagodaswirling9383 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    You have convinced me ! That is a ride that must be experienced . I wonder how good the scenery was during the hours of darkness and .... how were the bars of Bar ?

    • @Europe-By-Train
      @Europe-By-Train  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Great to hear. I read, that the scenery is nicer in Montenegro, that's why I went in this direction. Bars in Bar? :) Hmm.. no idea actually. I had just a short walk in Bar before jumping on the bus. I chose to stay longer in Budva and Kotor during my visit. Can't see them all :)

  • @joaomarveloso1049
    @joaomarveloso1049 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nicely done, thank you. I wonder if it is possible to take a bicycle on that train? Probably not.

    • @Europe-By-Train
      @Europe-By-Train  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thank you :) There is no dedicated space for bicycles in any of the carriages, it seems. So officially not. Folding one shouldn't be a problem.

    • @user-zk8cn7oh8x
      @user-zk8cn7oh8x 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Mozete uneti bicikl.

  • @ExplorebyRail
    @ExplorebyRail 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great one! What camera do you use for your videos? And how did you book the ticket? :)

    • @Europe-By-Train
      @Europe-By-Train  29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I bought the ticket in Subotica in the ticket office. No online sale, unfortunately. But there are certain travel advisors, who would get the ticket for you and have it delivered to the hotel for double the price. I did not stay in the hotel, so it was not an option for me.

  • @user-cd9rd7jb2z
    @user-cd9rd7jb2z 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is a really unique route with spectacular views. for this route, what are your recommendations for hotel accommodation / airbnb.
    so basically one has to get off in Serbia anyway to buy the tickets . Are they sold on a particular train station?

    • @Europe-By-Train
      @Europe-By-Train  24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Not really, I haven't stayed in Belgrade over night. Neither in Bar. Upon arrival, I took a bus to Budva.
      Tickets are for sure sold at Belgrade and Subotica stations. I emailed to Serbian railways before going to Subotica to check the opening times. They replied quick and in English.

  • @AKINYOLCI
    @AKINYOLCI 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    hi,thanks for sharing this amazing video. We will come to Belgrade with my friend on June 13th. We would like to make a reservation for a cabin for 2 people only on June 16th. Is it possible to do this before coming to Belgrade?

    • @Europe-By-Train
      @Europe-By-Train  25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Hello, thanks for you feedback :)
      I am not sure I understand right. You will come on 13th and wish to travel on 16th? Then best is to buy the ticket as soon as you arrive. There is no online sale. They don't do any kind of reservations with payment during the ticket collection.
      Also, if you stay longer than 24 hours in Serbia, there is a mandatory tourist registration.

    • @AKINYOLCI
      @AKINYOLCI 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Europe-By-Train thank u very much. If we arrived on June 13th and go to the station, can we find a two bed cabin for June 16th night train ? We are so confused when we checked websites.

    • @Europe-By-Train
      @Europe-By-Train  24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@AKINYOLCI I think there is a good chance. But nothing is guaranteed. It is not summer yet, so should not be that busy. And there are 3 carriages with these compartments. I read that people got ticket even on the same day. Maybe customer service can advise on the availability closer to the date.

  • @user-zk8cn7oh8x
    @user-zk8cn7oh8x 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    To putovanje je opasno po zivot.Nazalost.

  • @Sir_Typesalot
    @Sir_Typesalot 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’ve always found travelling on a night train to be brave. I‘ve been to over seventy countries so far, but I‘d never dare sit or sleep on a night train (neither in my own, nor in a foreign country). I know it’s practical; especially if you want to arrive rested and ready to tour the city in the morning, but it’s not my cup of tea.

    • @Europe-By-Train
      @Europe-By-Train  27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Because of the safety?

    • @Sir_Typesalot
      @Sir_Typesalot 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Europe-By-Train Yes. I‘ve travelled all over Europe on trains; Paris-Marseille (800 Km) on a TGV (3h15‘), Berlin-Munich (600 Km) on a ICE (4h), London-Paris (460 Km, 2h35‘), Zurich-Brussels (650 Km, 5h), London-Glasgow (680 Km, 5h), Berlin-Budapest (880 Km, 11h), Zurich-Rome (860 Km, 8h)… but it was always an early morning train. I wouldn’t feel safe at any European train station after 9PM.

    • @Europe-By-Train
      @Europe-By-Train  27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@Sir_Typesalot For me, so far, the worst station I was waiting for a night train at, was Split. But overall, no safety issues. I always book a private compartment. Czech Railway's ones feel the safest to me - attendant in the carriage, room lockable both from outside and inside. Often you can use a Lounge at the station with the ticket while waiting.

    • @user-cd9rd7jb2z
      @user-cd9rd7jb2z 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Please elaborate on what specific safety issues can arise because otherwise it is usually safe in European trains. Have there been frequent incidents, if so then what kind?

    • @user-cd9rd7jb2z
      @user-cd9rd7jb2z 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Europe-By-TrainIn what sense? Theifs / robbers?

  • @EuropeanRailJourneys
    @EuropeanRailJourneys 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Did you need a Passport(Reisepass) for entering Serbia and Macedonia or is a Identiy Card (Personalausweis) fine

    • @Europe-By-Train
      @Europe-By-Train  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I used a passport. You country's Ministry of Foreign Affairs website should give you more details about possible acceptance of different IDs at your destination.

    • @stefankostic178
      @stefankostic178 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      If you're an eu citizen then your ID is enough

  • @user-cd9rd7jb2z
    @user-cd9rd7jb2z 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How much the cost of this train ride in the sleeping compartment and where can we buy the tickets?
    The two border checks in the night can actually ruin the sleep otherwise the scenery sounds great. Do they need a visa for Turkey?. I wonder is the weather cool when train passes at such heights?

    • @Europe-By-Train
      @Europe-By-Train  25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi, the ticket cost breakdown is included in the video. Tickets can be purchased at the train stations in Serbia.
      For the visa, it is always best to check your government's website for the latest and guaranteed info.

    • @Europe-By-Train
      @Europe-By-Train  25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And it wasn't particularly cold up there :)

    • @user-cd9rd7jb2z
      @user-cd9rd7jb2z 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Europe-By-Train cool. Did they stamp your passport?
      Also I guess you need a hotel accommodation in Bar. Hopefully good rates.

    • @Europe-By-Train
      @Europe-By-Train  24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@user-cd9rd7jb2z Yes, they did stamp it.

  • @kartalmusic165
    @kartalmusic165 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hello, we will be traveling to Bar via Belgrade by train in 1 month. Can we buy train tickets for 3 people online? Can the tickets sell out early? How did you get it and finally can we pay by credit card or euro? thank you.

    • @Europe-By-Train
      @Europe-By-Train  23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hello, payment for the tickets is possible only in local currency. I paid by card. Rest of your questions I already answered in both video and here in comments.

  • @bavaria_trip_reports
    @bavaria_trip_reports 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wo du deine Fahrkarte gekauft hast in Subotica, konnten die Verkäufer Deutsch sprechen oder nur Serbisch und Englisch?

    • @Europe-By-Train
      @Europe-By-Train  28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There was an older lady, with some basic English only. I had on the phone my request translated into Serbian, and also a paper with all the travel details - date, time, carriage number, to avoid any possible questions/misunderstanding.

  • @ericleuthold
    @ericleuthold 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No breakfast/coffee served from the sleeping coach attendant?

    • @Europe-By-Train
      @Europe-By-Train  29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Nope, nothing. Not even possible to buy anything.

  • @zarkogorovic682
    @zarkogorovic682 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    10:07 the route true length is 454,6 kilometers, official data is inaccurate.

    • @Europe-By-Train
      @Europe-By-Train  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      How do you know this? 😊

    • @zarkogorovic682
      @zarkogorovic682 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Europe-By-Train 1st source is infrastructure (unavailable to the public) data with which I work with as a railway employee, and 2nd source, which is backed up with 1st source, is kilometer position mark (piece or rail, painted in white), which is located around entry junctions in Bar station, and it have number painted on "454,6". 😉 And 3th source I have picture of it. Hope this helps. 😄

    • @Europe-By-Train
      @Europe-By-Train  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks 😊

  • @MrRJS27
    @MrRJS27 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    6:15 So you could have purchased all 3 tickets for 6 euros less than the single ticket plus the single occupancy charge?

    • @Europe-By-Train
      @Europe-By-Train  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      For 3x21 EUR, I would get only 3 places in a seating carriage. So you need to buy a seating ticket plus the upgrade for bed. And that differs whether you want to share the cabin with other 2, 1 or no one.

  • @MihailoNedic-cu6hd
    @MihailoNedic-cu6hd 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Are you gonna to try again?

  • @argavenharge9704
    @argavenharge9704 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    But they gave a money😀

  • @cikairlines3752
    @cikairlines3752 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    La Jugoslavia è bellissima.
    Ja volim ❤❤❤.

  • @chicagomike
    @chicagomike 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Heard there were robberies on this?

  • @nikolapetrovic4091
    @nikolapetrovic4091 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    kosovo from Serbia

  • @bogdanbogdanovic4106
    @bogdanbogdanovic4106 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Planine/Rijeke/Kanjoni/Jezera/More.. Najljepsa zemlja na svijetu!!!

    • @izil1fe
      @izil1fe 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Svako svog konja hvali..
      valjda je tako i normalno.
      No u realnosti smo daleko od toga.