UMNGQOKOLO - Thembu Xhosa - OVERTONE SINGING filmed 1985-1998 in South Africa
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 พ.ค. 2012
- All these video recordings were made by Prof.Dr. Dave Dargie in South Africa from 1985 and 1998 among the Xhosa tribe .
Mrs. Nowxayilethi Mbizweni sings the song "the Nondel'ekhaya with "ordinary" umnqokolo, umngqokolo ngomqangi and normal voice .
The trio perform Nondel'ekhaya with "ordinary" umngqokolo (Nowayilethi tried ngomqangi, but was battling with "flu")
Concert at Ngqoko, 22 march 1996 . Nowayilethi and Nosomething lead the Ngqoko group with umngqokolo etc.....
Contact : Prof.Dr. Dave Dargie,
Email: dave.dargie@t-online.de - เพลง
Umhlobo wenene fm is letting us down as a xhosa nation why they don't play this kind of music interd of playing other cultures music like zulu music and phondoland music, please umhlobo wenene play us our own music ndiyanicela
This is AmaXhosa in Lesotho
In South Africa they don't sing like.this
@@khalemomohlafuno44You are so wrong. Where do you think Madosini comes from? Please do tell untruths about our culture, if you don’t know it’s better to be quiet. Please. This music exists through out the Greater Cape Province.
Lamarhuxu omhlobo kumnke bonke Abantu zange basiphakamisa isintu pha bebesicinezela
@@khalemomohlafuno44 This group is from Eastern Cape, Lady Frere Ngqoko village where I grew up in
Are you serious?
so glad i live in the youtube era
It was a great honor for me to sing with these women in the Parliament of World's Religions in Cape Town, 1999. We sang together, my own, Western style of Overtone Singing and Tibetan and Tuvinian throat singing, which surprised them enormously as in their Xhosa tribe nly the Women learn this style of Overtone Singing. It was even more special because we sang in the Chruch in District Six which was a bastion of Resistance during the Anti- apartheid struggle.
Nestor Kornblum do you have a video?
Lucky man...
I didn't even exist in 1999, so I consider you lucky.
Are there any recordings of that event in 1999 I am so curious in understanding the origins of these styles of singing?
I can't believe how similar the blues sounds to this. It's clear this musics influences are still present today. This is beautiful
My people went via the ships and sang the blues.
wooow! I know these women.... they are still doing their thing even today.... they are from "Engqoko" a small village next to LadyFrere/Queenstown in the Eastern Cape.......... they were perfoming in England in 2008, Ngu daps ka Mr. Mbizweni lo une doek emhlophe (My Grade 9 class teacher)
I can't find the place "Engqoko" is there any popular name?
I'm so proud
Engqoko is a village in Lady Frere, sikhula kusombelwa kungqungwa ke pha
@@lebohanglekhelebane3408 lady frere
I’m interested haybo I want to visit there nam
I'm black and proud.
😭 I'm Zulu from KZN, I dreamt of ds people singing for me and I was dancing differently, bengithi ngiphupha izinto zami ezingekho .
Still watching in 2020!! Ndiyinzalelwane kwaXhosa ndiyazingca!!!❤❤
South Africa, Eastern Cape...my Home. Xhosa tribe one of the most prominent tribe, love this ;)
Oh yes, indeed we the most prominent tribe.
16:42
I had to timestamp
Oooo I feel the vibesss with this, I love it❤❤💯💯
Same ngl
the xhosa tribe didnt win multiple wars for you to call this shit a ''vibe''
it really seems like something to behold can only imagine what its actually like bein there clappin with them and appreciating their rhythm and style
@@masteroogway1372 i dont think they meant it any type way just that the spirirt of it is entrancing at least thats how i interpretted vibe in this sitch
The best part of the entire
I am throat singer and I sing all styles from Tibetan Chant to Tuvan and when I found this I was blown away by the different styles and how they were able to get overtones in a different way then the Tuvans and everyone else:) , especially the one lady who shows us the different styles, she really gets some good overtones and gutteral chants so I learned to do it myself and I can tell you I sure love the different overtones I get and the chanting takes me away, it's really good to me :)
you from Tibet?
:) One of the great things of this vast global culture. For all it's good and bad. We share.
Camagu mfondini ungowakuth wena
Growing up I've always enjoyed it when old women sing like this, just never new it was throat singing.
WOW! IVE NEVER HEARD ANYTHING LIKE THIS. AND THE MAN GOT THE XHOSA WORDS ON POINT
He really did hey!? Was pleasantly surprised about that
Him knowing Xhosa is not an achievement
Indeed!
@QWXZY he is saying that because african people were forced to speak english and afrikaans
So its not impressive considering majority of Native Africans were more impressive
Never forget, we were colonised by people who spoke our languages.
Am Xhosa and am in South Africa but, you won't believe how greatful I am of these videos and lessons to learn. 🎉
I miss you mam Nosomething. Rest in Peace mama. I was fortunate to work with these incredible women from eNgqoko. We traveled the world, New York, Greece, England, The Netherlands, countless. " Mamas" that's how we fondly called them. Ndiyanikhumbula bomama bam.
Are they from Lady Frere?
@@selwasongelwa8258 yes
Mhakhulu wam Nosomthing Ntese umphefumlo wakhe mawuphumle ngoxolo
I throat sing too. Nice to that throat singing is in South Africa too. Throat singing and overtone singing is about as old as humanity itself. More should learn this.
Prof. Dave Gargie, a German, of University of Fort Hare, Eatern Cape, South Africa, did these recordings when there was no internet, youtube, etc. but captured the essence of the Xhosa indigenous songs, singing styles such as "Overtone Singing" or "UMNGQOKOLO" in the Xhosa language. Some people have heared these sounds perhaps from Mongoleans but these sounds originate with the original people, the TWA or SAN or BUSHMEN/WOMEN as they are called by the whites. In fact the XHOSA people of South Africa had very close relationships with these people and that is why their language is very similar to the TWA, using "Click" and "Throat" harsh sounds that are very difficult for other Africans and Europeans to imitate unless they grew up speaking or listening to the language. As I live in Europe I once demonstrated the "click" sounds to some of my fellow workers and students, they were all amazed and asked me "where did we get these sounds, and could they be expressed in Roman Numerals?". I said YES!...in fact, we the XHOSA we use Roman Numerals to write our language including the "explosive click and throat sounds" we make when we speak. One of them asked me if the children are also required to learn these difficult sounds, and she thought it's very unfair!!! I said YES, and they always play and compose music and other games using these sounds, it's like breathing the air in and out...just like that...none of them feel any difficulty. When you listen to the TWA or Bushmen/women music you only here "Clicks and Throat" sounds with many other multi-phonic background sounds accompanied by complex rhythms. If these sounds and rhythms are difficult for some of the tribes in Africa, how much more to the Europeans? But in case of Mongoleans or Chinese using "Throat singing" or UMNGQOKOLO it's clear that the ancient TWA and black Africans were more than likely to have lived in their countries and are now silenced or extinct as aborigines. I came across that history of Africans as aborigines in many European, Asian, and the Americas. What I like about Prof.Dave Dargie is his curiosity about XHOSA music and for preserving it, during the times of colonisation and apartheid, and releasing it now on youtube for the present generation, and that's how I came to hear and know about him and our XHOSA traditional music at close range. Thanks.
Enkosi ngalengcaciso ndiyamonqelwa xa kufuneka ndibendicacisa ndizakubathumela apha
Thank you for this detailed explanation 🙏🏽My dad worked at UFH until 1986. My cousin is into Xhosa history/culture. I’ll definitely pass on your explanation to him.
@@bbl82 My father was born in e Dikeni not far from Fort Hare University, and myself having born and bred in Cape Town I always told myself that when I'm old enough I would teach my Xhosa culture, it's music, it's unique language, and so on. That's why I'm an international musician and a self made scholar/historian. Also aware that many of our great African leaders came from Fort Hare, and therefore I'll be glad to be associated with that university in the near future. There's a lot of misinformation and misconceptions about our past relationships with ABATWA. Most people say we came from the north and conquered them in South Africa, not knowing that we are the miraculous ancient children of them, we have a great ancient history of co-existence and intermarriages. I'd be more than pleased to discuss or argue this with anybody. I live and work in the UK but always come back home sometimes. Thanks.
I just watch now yhooo ezingoma 😢❤❤❤❤
just like mother earth singing... so beautiful and powerful...
My first impression of this film, is it could be the most important film i have ever personally seen
It was the discovery of throat singing performed by Xhosa women by Dr. David Dargie in 1983 in South Africa.
@@tranquanghai he did not discover anything, our way of singing has always been prevelant since ancient times. Choose your words accordingly next time
@@ziziphosonaba813 I totally agree Zizipho. One cant discover something that is already there from ancient times.
@@rue8988 So therefore we can say that he made it known to the world, not discovered it. Its the wording that needs to be changed.
@@tranquanghai niyasiqhela Nina. Discovery??? Abelunda bayaphapha
I am a throat singer as well :) and once you get used to throat singing it does not hurt anymore, as one learns not to push to hard but to vibrate at a rate that feels good , it actually feels good if you do it the right way, it is very healing and meditative as the vibrations and overtones heal and repair the cells in the body :) namaste;)
This is so beautiful indeed isiko ne sintu si nhle kwa khona si nqabile #umngqokolo wish I was at the time ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Absolutely brilliant! Had no idea overtone singing was a thing outside the Mongolian cultural sphere. Where can I hear more of this?
inuit sings too are similar
Inuit throat singing is a game, rather than actual song. It also not incorporate overtones like Tuvans or Xhosa do :) Very cool too nonetheless!
sardinians
Vikings also practised throat singing. Check it out. It sounds a lot like Mongolian throat singing
Flamdring Well trying to find a specific style of Tuvan throat singing I stumbled upon Finnish throat singing. I don’t know if that’s the same as the Viking one but you’re right they sound very similar.
This is amazing! I had no idea that people in Africa would practice this kind of overtone singing. I had always thought overtone singing was purely Asian.
People sing overtones since we lived in the trees :)
Ana Luiza Brown you has not heard the Mpondo boys do it.
Ana Luiza Brown that means Mongolians is Xhosa. coz it's said all people come from Africa and Xhosa is Africa. just listen to a Mongolian woman nqgokoling- wow she ngqokoling like crazy
I think so as well as you :)
they can do this cuz africans are the most intelligent race
Growing up as a Xhosa boy in the mountains of Quthing, Lesotho, I have always believed that our strong Xhosa culture continues to thrive here, even to these days. It brings me joy to see that the same kind of music was sung by Xhosa people in South Africa. The girls used to sing these songs "Ejakeni", "Emchochweni" nase "sejandweni" . Amakhwenkwe oona echocha
If these women rocked up at the royal wedding, I would give them a standing ovation. Forget Elgar or Beethoven, I don't need no winging Olly Murs or Katy Perry, I'd rather these sweet sounds any day.
I always cry every time I listen these grandmas singing.. the remind my grandma ❤️❤️😭😭😭
hayii kukhona ndiyibona ngo2020....Hayii mabayekwe abathembu. nam ndingowase LadyFrere
Whaaaew creativity women
Lalah Hathaway the American singer brought me here. She does this. She was teaching the history.
This style of singing is absolutely beautiful.
5:25 is beautiful
u can really tell shes gettin into it i can only imagine bein there and gettin to sing with her and others that sing similarly must be fun
With this kind of music I get healed so much ❤❤❤
Andisabathandi nje ingathi bangandifundisa intle into yamaXhosa jd
16:45
Juuuust a personal timestamp
lmao same
awu! madoda isingqi sakuthi . utsho kamnandi umNgqokolo xa udibene noMombelo
No mHala futhi nomtsholozo
roots of Hip Hop
16:41 my favourite
Those woman would sing me into a trance 😭😭
Great vid. Thanks for posting. I saw the Ngqoko cultural group in concert a few years ago and cried the whole time. One of the best moments of my life. I made sure to meet them afterwards and I shall never forget it. Side note, Prof Dargie's Xhosa is fantastic!
Except that first one, the rest sound familiar from when I was raised in my village. I did not know there was a formal name for the sounds though
Lord have mercy! This gives me goose bumps. Amazing. Thank you for posting!
Hi cutie
I'm really curious about what type of camera was used, or more importantly what type of auto-focus/tracking technique or technology achieves effect in the 22-23 minute section. I love the look of the tracked face with a moving background. Any insight?
Finally I found these recordings again. Thank you for uploading this!
Ikori maxhosa ikori💝💝💝
I hope they can keep this culture alive
So sad these are my people and we don't practice this kind of singing anymore
@xxTsitsanaxx i should have been more specific. Unfortunately i grew up in the city and i am yet to see this type of singing.
Woooou,es un vídeo genial y canta muy hermoso, Dios quiera que no se pierda la cultura. Que privilegio es conocerlos. Me apasiona conocer su cultura, es una de las culturas más hermosas que he visto en mí vida, gracias por filmar y compartir. Deben tener muchas leyendas e historias que contar
Loved at 21:00 into film (amongst all the rest of it). Such soul and intent. Thanks be for these recordings.
Beguiling, gorgeous, joyous and full of Life!
great documentary!thank you
THIS IS BEAUTIFUL
Oow madoda nitsho kamnandi yanithanda maan Godbless u bantu badala
Abathembu; the tribe of Nelson Rolihlahla Mandela
Ecacadu kwedini, nethwalo liyatsho kwaXhosa.
Excellent work by the Prof
Kuluchulumanco kum ukuva lo mngqungqo. Kweku, imandi le nto ndiyiva apha. Masibuyele eMbo Mz'ontsundu.
Fantastic to hear and see this!
This is absolutely incredible and beautiful!
Wow, its like meditation. Very relaxing.
What a treat it must be to meet others like this 😊
Amazing. Simply amazing.
He nomama!!! Niyatsho makhosikaz
I am glad I am african american, I can sing all the notes.
What? Lol😂😂
Itsho kamnandi❤❤❤
very clear overtones, sounds amazing!
super cool vid dud
❤️❤️❤️❤️
Haibo nawe ulapha mfo
I Love you ❤️ to bits my Beautiful Xhosa People 💖💖💖❤️❤️❤️
Yitsho ngesiXhosa Tshini.
I'm impressed! :O
Wow... Did not know that was even possible... One voice singing two tones simultaneously...
11:40 to 12:23 was a vibe fr
Ndiswelekile🥰🥰❤❤💯💯💯👌👌👌
Oh Brother Where Art Thou shows some bones here!
I can hear hints of a gospel melody! Maybe it came from the melodies of this tradition.
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Blues, jazz, gospel. Black roots run deep
Gospel is a creation of Africans. Why would you think they are not connected, including jazz.
Yaz ingaske basiyeke nhamasiko wethu!!
Ngawethu kufuneka agcinwe sithi.
She's excellent at her craft
so beautiful, impressive. I hear a lot of similarities to Pygmees music (though I am not a specialist). Thank you for this post
Pygmee is in fact derogatory. White people just came and plastered people with the label. They call themselves Twa. And are all over Africa including South Africa. Please don’t ever use that word again. It’s dehumanising.
Kunini ndisithi ndizawuyifuna le ngoma
Steven Bantu Biko’s father is from this village, e Ngqoko
I didn't that Steve Biko is from Lady Frere..
Wow..
Stompie Mavi is from Queenstown yena.
The ensamble at 10:10, - favorite part of this video. Our voices are amazing tools.
My people need they own and ca be seen by world 🌎
beautiful
Almost sounded like blues at some point 🤔
It is. They were created by the same people, Africans. There’s nothing that separates us at all.
23:41... Oh! Beautiful
wow i love this sound, it so spiritual to the land and the people and the overtones that come off of the deep throat singing are amazing, Im a throat singer as well and I sing all styles, it has taken practice but I have now added this to my styles, it has some amazing overtones and deep gutteral chants.. namaste:)
This is beautiful, I'm glad I discovered this style. Can someone please tell me what is the xhosa or nguni form of yodelling called?
awu madoda watsho kamnandi, undikhumbuza kude
Does anyone know the name of the song at 16:45
I cried like I bitch when it started
It's not a song it's more like a hymn
Uzawuva ke wena mntwana we freedom siyazazi ke thina ezi
Watch the indeginious Americans how the dance and how Xhosa ppl dance
Dope
This is communication with ancestors
iingcambu zikaNxeko
NgabaThembu bakaTshatshu aba, isizukulwana sikaDlomo kwindlu yasekunene
They do this shit in Africa too!!????? She makes her voice Reeeeal low!!
don't try this at homes or your vocal cords will explode
🤣
Not if you do it right.
Hahahhaha
I tried it and mine did not
"Baya thakatha abafazi" yho le ngoma
yazi ndike ndiyive iTune enje xa ndise Matatiele ezingomeni zom'tshotsho
Ewe nalapha emaMpondweni
eLesotho, naseSterkspruit nakhona iyafumaneka Bantwan' Abahle.
Ezakuti kwedini
kukho nabantu abathetha la way yo ngqokola especially la genge yase zimayn nama bhangay.
ngamaxhosa wokwenyani ke lawo they know their roots, plz just dont get bored when they starting talking about this topic yomngqokolo its very interesting and remember the importance of our history as xhosa tribe
When we become 'multicultural' we lose gems of culture like this, sadly.
thats not true at all lmao
@@barrymcfuzz7102 He's right. Most likely their grandchildren will be twerk for trap.
The Internet is multicultural.
It has not taken away this gem. It has been spreading it.
Multiculture doesnt take away anything. It frees things from their regional shackles.
Even though some jerks might prefer those shackles because they don't want anyone else to be inspired by their culture.
@@Redneck1428 You understand that "twerking" came from African dances, right?
@@lostchild06 Came from part of Africa. Africa it's not one culture. I'm talked about that their children will be trying too hard to be American, not practical about twerk.