I appreciate you for telling the truth. Producers cheat people. :-( If the signal is good during the day and weaker at night, it is related to a weak antenna. The propagation of waves at night is different than during the day
I get 30 channels with my square antenna and the Fox channel goes off sometimes at 6 and stays off till 7 but I tried the LED thing and that wasn't it but thanks anyway have a great day.
@@ninocervini7867 I bought one on a goof for that reason, the antenna actually kinda works but like he said the preamp blows out in a month, I didn't use long enough to find out.
@@ninocervini7867 I bought on of thr flat antennas. I read the marketing hype and the reviews that said it was the best invention since sliced bread and it uses military technology so you know it has to be good. Then I searched to figure out why it didn't work as well as the old RCA rabbit ears I had before the digital change and came across this channel. So lack of knowledge and marketing hype did it for me. I assume I'm not alone.
The cheaper LED light bulbs, like the Sunbeam ones that Dollar Tree sells, which use a simple capacitive dropper power supply are actually better in this regard because they cause a lot less RF interference than the fancier ones. The downside is that their light output has more flicker which may cause eyestrain.
In the UK "Poundland" sell great LED light bulbs for £1. One of the TH-cam electronics enthusiasts/professionals did some tear down videos on the Poundland bulbs and was surprised at how well made their bulbs were.
Oh I also forgot to mention that my automatic garage door instructions recommend not installing LED lights in the garage as it could cause the door opener not to work due to the RF interference of LED bulbs. I left the LED lights in the garage and haven’t had issues but I kept it in mind.
ds99 our LED puck lights in the kitchen prevented the remote control for our garage door opener from working. It took some time for us to figure out the source of that problem!
Thanks Tyler!! :-) And who would ever thought it was so simple as an LED light bulb. I swear Tyler, you never cease to amaze me, you're awesome dude. Have a great day!!! -Melvin - Sunday, May 10, 2020 - 3:09 PM Mountain Time - Colorado Springs, Co
Yesterday I saw a TH-cam video about installing an outdoor antenna, and the guy found he was getting interference from a LED fixture in an attic. His solution was to install an aluminum pie plate above the fixture as an RF shield.
LED bulbs are hardly simple on the inside! Some are made to respond to dimmers, others cannot do that and will shut off as dimming is attempted. There is serious electronics in both CFL and LED Bulbs! Find a functional AM Radio, tune it off station and put it closer to either a CFL or standard fluorescent or LED bulb and hear what is really going on, then put it up to an incandescent and notice the lack of interference.
@@DishNetworkDealerNEO saw your post after my rant. an AM radio can find all kinds of things. My AM radio pings constantly near my new "silent" electric smart meter. Right.
I have LED lightbulbs all over my house but my antenna is in the attic so that could be why I have a great signal 24/7. I remember as a kid our tv would get messed up if mom was vacuuming or using the electric mixer. We only had a couple of VHF channels in our location back then. As a kid I used to think it was interference going through the electrical wiring of the house. I didn’t realize it was interference in the airwaves. I just knew the vacuum was plugged into an electrical outlet and so was the tv so it must be scrambling the electrical power. 😂
I guessed it right away. I ran into this problem a few years back, but with the 2 Meter Ham band and the NOAA weather radio frequencies both of which are a bit below channel 7.
As a TV engineer for a local station, I cannot tell you how many viewer phone calls I get about this. One lady recently had this problem and I suggested changing her light bulbs and she called back two days later to say thank you.
Great videos! I started designing antennas in 1974. Antenna wave propagation can be complicated but you do a good job of explaining the differences between VHF and UHF. Also, thanks for trying to wean people off of the idea of an “HD” antenna. However, a point can be made that an antenna that is specifically designed with the new frequencies in mind can be referred to as an HD antenna in the sense that the new frequencies allotted for TV are done so with the idea of digital transmissions in mind which then results in a signal that supports HD resolution. A few companies have designed such. Other the other hand, technically, an antenna is neither Analog or Digital, HD, side band, narrow band, etc. An antenna is cut to work a particular frequency and range of frequencies regardless of the TYPE of transmission. Please keep up the great work. There is not enough guys like you who with go to the lengths you go in explaining what people need to do and why, to get the best possible TV reception.
I understand what you are saying. The same argument was used when stations began using color back in the 60's. There was no such thing as an antenna that supported color. Any antenna did. I would prefer they drop all of the HD, 1080i, atsc 3.0 and all that crap and just advertise it as a VHF or UHF antenna or both. It's misleading to most consumers. And they should also advertise the gain of the antenna, gain at VHF and gain at UHF so consumers can make intelligent purchasing decisions. This 45 mi, 60 mi, 100 mi rating is crap and also misleading. Furthermore, they advertise some UHF antennas with VHF capability when it's VHF capability is only marginal. The antenna industry (specifically those made in foreign countries) needs to be cleaned up and Tyler is doing a great job getting the truth out.
Interesting, indeed! I recall back in the analog days of TV, the reception culprit could have been with fluorescent lighting, as the ballasts in those lighting fixtures were notorious for frequency interference if you used an indoor antenna.
YES, absolutely. I ended up getting rid of the whole fixture completely and put up a 2-bulb fixture, and used 2 LEDs that didn't affect my TV reception. Now, once in a while, I'll have an LED that will interfere, but luckily, I don't go in that room much for anything ;-P But certain LEDs can work without interference.
Good advice, but incandescent bulbs are difficult to find now since they're only available now in lower wattage. And I also agree with earlier posters that getting quality LED bulbs can make a difference.
The only problem I've had with LED bulbs was interference with my garage door opener. Replacing them with Genie low interference 60W equivalent LED bulbs cured it. They go for about $10 each and work in any standard bulb socket. Just possible it might work for TV signals too.
@@kb1kos Yeah but I remember back in the day they used to mess with your wifi signal. Or at least I remember being told that at some point when I was young
Microwave Magnetron operates at 2.43GHz, same frequency as wifi. FDA regulates external emissions be below1 micro watt per meter, therefore no wifi interference. If wifi or fm radio or tv problems exist, you risk sterility and cancer too.
Very interesting video regarding the LED lightbulbs. I thought for sure you were going to name the clothes dryer as the culprit. I also enjoyed your telling people in Spanish not to buy the junk antennas! Nicely done!
Just bought and installed the Winegard HD7694P, nice! Got more stations, and the ones I've been getting come in stronger with this unit. And im about 50 miles away from towers.
Yep. I have noticed it when I replaced my living room light bulb with an led. And yes a lightbulb can be more entertaining than some of the crap that is on TV now a days.............lol
To find the offending light bulb, take an old fashioned AM transistor radio tune it in to static, then physically hold it up to each light bulb, dimmer switch, outlet, transformer and more. You will be able to hear the interference. Each bulb hums differently, and the loudest one is usually the issue. The AM radio is highly sensitive, it will also normally pick up more interference on one side (for example the left side) than the other. (This is based on how the circuit board components are laid out in the radio.) You can also put the TV and the TV antenna amplifier on a different circuit/plug than the offending light bulb.
I would switch a noisy light bulb with a quiet one. The ‘huge’ issue of global warming, appliance efficiency, and fossil fuel simply does not warrant using 100 year old grossly inefficient technology. A more reasonable approach is to identify the ‘offending’ lamp and replace it with a ‘quiet’ LED.
I do believe you have solved a mystery. Most of the time I have perfect reception. I have always used regular incandescent bulbs but my neighbors may not. I share a wall with another unit and that is where my antenna is mounted. Sometimes I lose some of my channels even when the weather is good. If cable companies wanted to force people to keep paying for cable they would invest in these bulbs.
YES, I replaced the fluorescent lights in my garage with LED lights and the garage door remote control only works now if i am directly in front of the door with the remote in my hand and pointing it to the door. If I turn off the lights, then it works normal
maxbored install a remote light switch to turn the LED lights off while remote commanding the garage door to open or close. The remote light switch will be designed to have plenty of range despite the interference from the LED bulbs. Another way is to install Snubber Capacitors on the lightbulbs fixtures as outlined in one of my other posts in this thread.
Thank you for not clickbaiting. The weird thing I am encountering with antenna reception is that I actually get many more local channels than are available on local cable. In Dallas there are 85 or more channels, most of them subchannels of the major network channels.
Holy Smoke Antenna Man!! Problem solved. I live in rural northeastern Maryland on the Maryland-Pennsylvania line. No cable or internet in my area. I’ve always had to have a good outdoor TV antenna with a good pre-amp and get great reception. Recently, I’ve been experiencing poor TV reception every night for the past two weeks, where I was losing several RF channels (11 & 12) only during the evening hours. Great reception during the day. Never had any similar unexplained issues before. Totally frustrated!! Watched your video and gave it some thought as I sat on my couch this evening. Finally, I got up, walked outside onto my back deck and unplugged the 12 strings of my new LED Xmas lights (these lights were almost directly underneath my outdoor antenna). Immediately, my poor TV reception totally cleared up! Figuring that it was a fluke, during the next several hours I turned the LED Xmas lights on and off having the same results each time; poor reception with the lights on and excellent reception with the lights off. Looks like I’m gonna have to dig out my old incandescent Xmas lights tomorrow. Thanks for your help. Enjoyed your video. Happy Holidays!!! 🎄
I'm glad my videos helped you get better reception. Feel free to give a contribution at the link below as I spend A LOT of time making the videos and responding to these comments: antennamanpa.com/support.html
Well I'll be horn-swaggled!!! LEDs were supposed to be the greatest thing since sliced bread, 9 watts instead of 100 etc. Fortunately I always watch TV with the lights out anyway, but I'll try the experiment. Great video, you're better than most stand-up comics!
In recent years linear power supplies have been replaced by cheaper "switching power supplies" because of their higher power output capacity,, and smaller size. These switching power supplies are commonly the culprit in LEDs that generate RFI (Radio frequency Interference) or "noise". Some are noisier than others, usually because of a faulty bypass capacitor inside the power supply even though this power supply will otherwise function normally. They are mostly used to power phone chargers, modems or routers. By the way, these noisy power supplies are often the reason your WiFi service is degraded.
Good call. RF, from any device could definitely affect reception. Lower powered devices could, too, due to those nasty (sometimes) little harmonics. I bet you make your own antennas...
In my new camper I have a great disk antenna on roof that works great during daylight but loses signal at night and I might add that I do try to adjust the antenna T night to no avail. How do I fix this? Thankyou
You likely need a better antenna. Disc style omni directional antennas don't work well. Consider replacing it with this model and pointing it towards the closest city: bit.ly/2W92bEB
I just cut the cord and have been watching your videos on many different scenarios and I appreciate the work that you do. I’m having problems where channels will not come in during the early morning (when it’s still dark out). I do have LED lights but they are motion sensing lights so they are technical off when there is no motion around. I’m using a ClearStream 4Max antenna. The light bulbs are Motion Sensor LED Light Bulb 9W A19 PIR Built-in IR 60W Equivalent Bright 810 Lumens E26 Base Warm White Bulbs and I have 4 of them in the house. I don’t know if it is the lights because they are in and have power going to them, but they are not illuminated. I forgot to mention that I have a bunch of LED night lights that turn on at disk and off at dawn. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
Don't necessarily have to switch to an incandescent, can try a different make/model of CFL/LED bulb. Bulb quality and construction varies wildly. Plenty of people with OTA use LED/CFL bulbs without issue. As for you suggesting that switching from LED to incandescent isn't a big deal in terms of cost, yes it is. Electric bill drops from $300 a month to $50 a month with the switch from Incandescent to LED/CFL. Perhaps putting the CFL/LED on a separate circuit would be enough to alleviate the signal issues if trying different brand of LED/CFL bulb doesn't work.
Nice vid! I assume that since LEDs are DC, the RF noise is coming from the power converter that changes 110AC to DC. It's possible different brands are better built and don't have the problem. This might also be a problem for ham radio because they use VHF and UHF bands.
Yes Tyler, I have problems with FM reception. I have LED Light Bulbs and when I turn them on the medium to low signal radio channels completely disappear. Lucky I have an outdoor FM antenna and don't have a problem with FM reception. Even LED TVs and Monitors ruins the signal.
Nicholas 2016 adding snubber capacitor into the power strip used with these devices can cut the RF Interference. See my other post in this thread for details.
Wow, something as simple as a light bulb. Question, do cables from the electrical poles on the streets interfere with the reception? I seem to lose certain channels during the day, but at night they come back
Bad daytime and good night time reception could be due to the way that the atmosphere can bend VHF and UHF signals. In the daytime there's hot air near the earth's surface and colder air aloft. This tends to bend the radio waves upwards, reducing signal strength near the earth. At night the earth cools rapidly, so the air near the ground is cooler than the air aloft, bending the radio waves downwards and making them stronger near the earth. Also, some stations change power level and antenna pattern at night.
The most channels I have gotten is very early morning which is 87. Late afternoon and evening......40 to 50. Big difference! Thanks again for another great video!
Also some cheap power adapter cause it to. I got a radio charger that was some knock off brand and during charging singnal would jump up down every few seconds.
I have a number of cordless RIDGID power tools. If I have the RIDGID charger charging batteries in the workshop, my shop radio is filled with the loud buzzz of static and can't be listened to.
Being thst the AC adapter is charging a radio, or near a radio, need a conventional charger with an old school 60 HZ transformer, not a switch mode high frequency AC to DC power supply. The old school 60 HZ ac to DC power adapters are heavy in comparison the same voltage and current of the newer switching power supplies. Radio Shack sold literally tons of them and only units last dying gasp, sold the new switching AC to DC adapters.
Aww crap.. All my lights inside and out are LED's.. I would have to watch TV in the Dark... :) Happy Mothers day to your mom.. She raised one smart kid... :)
For me it’s the reverse. At night, tv reception is best. During the day, especially after the sun is risen or is at its highest point, reception problems abound. Also, I agree about those junk antennas. Never buying one again. I made my own from some tip I found on ytb. Basically, it’s a long coaxial cable that’s been stripped about a foot at the end point. I get all the channels and then even some I could hardly pickup with those other fake antennas
LEDs DO NOT cause RF interference. LEDs are essentially diodes & do not generate RF. Some of the poorly designed power supplies inside LED bulbs used to drive them may cause interference. Most of them are OK, causing interference on the much lower AM radio, or shortwave radio bands if the receiver or antenna is nearby, but not on FM, VHF, or UHF. The majority of LED light bulbs & Christmas lights do not have those defective power supplies, but a few do. Excessive RF emissions from devices & power supplies are prohibited under FCC law. However, a florescent light near it's end of life or flickering can cause VHF interference from a couple doors down. Mercury vapor, & Sodium (yellow/orange ones) outdoor lights near the end of their life can cause interference on AM, SW, & VHF from over a block away.
Science: All diodes are simple rectifiers. It was discovered long ago that they can emit infrared light. With the use of phosphors & chemicals they were able to convert the infrared light to visible light for Light Emitting Diodes (LEDs)... in warm colors like red, orange, & yellow-greens. Since then they developed diodes that emit ultraviolet light. Through the use of phosphors they convert the UV light in modern LEDs to colder colors, like deep green, blue, violet, & white. LEDs are still just simple rectifiers & do not emit radio or TV signals & interference... not even Christmas lights. It's a hoax for clicks & headlines. However, some of the power supplies used to drive LED from house current or batteries may emit tons of radio waves & RF noise. But it's usually in the Khz range interfering with AM & shortwave radio. There are a rare few LED power supplies that will generate noise up to 3-4Mhz, far below low VHF starting at around 50Mhz. Typical modern UHF TV frequencies start at around 500Mhz. I'm a ham radio operator, heavily involved in electronics, & have spent a large portion of my life since a teen working with RF. I've never detected RF from any LED, & never detected any RF from their power supplies above 3Mhz. There's LED light everywhere in my house for well over a decade. But if there is an interactive bulb operated by a remote, or via wifi, higher frequencies may be involved that may interfere with TV, FM, or your wifi. The LEDs are not at fault, but it may be some crap electronics used to run them. Just don't buy garbage. They could burn your house down or give you a shock someday anyway.
I was thinking on the line of the FM trap since its frequency borders with high VHF & old Low VHF above channel 6, Its probably more of an issue with amplified indoor antennas vs Outdoor Rooftop antennas
I have to disagree with "it saves you a few cents on your electric bill". They actually save quite a bit. Especially if you got a household with kids that don't know how to turn off lights
Here in Germany we don`t have that problem with TV because all TV stations moved to UHF when they switched over to DVB-T2 (a similar system to ATSC 3.0) a few years ago. But we do have digital radio (DAB+) on VHF which is often affected by LED bulbs. Some LEDs cause more problems than others. Usually you can fix the problem by changing them, sometimes you only have to swap around bulbs you already have. Incandescent bulbs are not really an option. They have been banned and old stock is increasingly hard to find these days.
Tyler; Incandescent light bulbs are being phased out in favor of LED bulbs thanks to our good friends at the U.S. Federal Government, so going out to get those is going to become more difficult over time. Perhaps another alternative solution to this problem can be suggested? I really enjoy your channel and find it very informative, thank you for the content.
@@AntennaMan I find some of the more expensive and higher quality LED don't cause issues - incandescents may be discontinued but they sell halogens that look and cost about the same.
AKA Spark Transmitters like in the early 1900s generating broadband electrical noise. Back in the 70’s I was able to operate a garage door opener with the noise from a 1/4” electric drill.
Long fluorescent tubes, commonly found in overhead shop lights, are another source of broadband noise. When my basement shop light and garage shop lights are on, over the air interference becomes a real problem. Using a spectrum analyzer, I found that the ambient noise floor jumps more than 20% when those lights are on.
John Clark adding snubber capacitors across the bulb’s connections at the ballast output wires may help. High working voltages on the capacitor such as 1000 volts are recommended. The value of 0.047 uF (47 nF) would still be appropriate.
Before you switch to lightbulbs that waste money producing resistive heat (unless that is desirable for you), try some different types of LEDs. Some types put out almost no interference at all: th-cam.com/video/0T-hIY4-UxU/w-d-xo.html .
what you were describing sounds very similar to an article I read years ago about LED lightbulbs interfering with Wi-Fi reception as well. So if they can interfere with Wi-Fi then what you’re saying makes absolute sense. I am a ham radio operator, and some of my friends that are in the hobby with me have said the same thing about the same bulbs causing problems with radio reception to.
I live in a brick four floor brick apartment building in Ohio, and for some strange reason, I can get up to 24 over the air TV channels during the day, but at night, I receive much more than that. Why is that?
My Ch7 VHF interference came from my low voltage LED landscape lights from Lowes. Was having an issue from dusk to dawn when the lights came on. Took them out and problem went away.
It's certainly something to check. People buy LED bulbs because they are cheaper to operate. The interference is likely coming from a crap switching power supply in the bulb. Different kinds of bulbs may eliminate the interference. LED filament bulbs and other cheaper bulbs may solve the problem due to having just a simple full bridge rectifier without any room for smoothing capacitors. The downside is that they'll flicker 120 times a second. You may or may not notice unless you look at a running fan. Notice that I'm talking about switching power supplies here rather than the LEDs themselves. Any switch mode power supply could cause that kind of interference including USB chargers and peripherals that you use on your TV set. The interference could occur at any time of the day. I wouldn't doubt that a lot of the noisy power supplies end up in LED bulbs since they may overlook it. I'd just try a different brand of LED light bulb before just giving up and going back to inefficient incandescent bulbs. If you've only used brand name bulbs because of quality issues, a simple generic bulb might be your solution. I'm too cheap to buy anything else, and I really haven't noticed any issues. I do keep them on most of the time, though.
LOL, i recently started having this problem on channels that were showing 100% strength during the day, then dropped to 0% as soon as it got dark. Turned out to be an outdoor infrared LED light panel that I simply changed the direction it was aiming last week. I unplugged it just now and I'm back to 100%. Thanks antenna man!
The thing is that 1 led 60 Watt equivalent light bulb saves $15 a year over incandescent. That's each bill. It doesn't take many bulbs to save an entire months power bill. My guess is better quality LED's likely have less RF interference than the cheap dollar store ones, would be an interesting test. Probably is put the antenna outside, and mount it as high as possible. That's further from the bulbs, and better for the signal
@M Detlef A poorly designed led bulb can in fact be a fire hazard. There are certain things that have to be taken into consideration when laying out a circuit board that will have mains voltage applied to it, for example
Vince from Western PA here, he's exactly right. I have an AC to DC transformer touching my RG11 (evening LED landscape lighting), moved the coax just 3 inches away from the transformer and voila, both channels I would lose every evening while the lights are on, came back in strong. One is VHF and the other channel is UHF.
Hello Tyler, stay in an apartment complex they put LED LIGHTS in walkways and at night it knocks out my favorite channels like CBS, ANTENNA TV.......WHAT CAN I DO??????? HELP!!!!!!
A snubber capacitor could be used be installing it in the between hot and neutral in the existing light socket. A 0.047 uF (47 nF) 250 Volt AC Polypropylene Safety Capacitor, easily found on eBay for 10 for $5.99 with fast and free could be soldered across the terminal lugs of the offending bulb’s socket in the light fixture’s center and collar terminals and short circuit most radio frequency noise emanating from the LED Bulb’s internal Switch Mode power supply. This prevents the bulb’s internal power supply from being a transmitting antenna for the hash coming from the switch mode power supply of the LED bulb! Expect future Fixture designs to have this built into the fixtures as LED bulbs become dominant! The capacitor barely reacts to the actual 60 HZ 120 VAC due to the extremely high Xc at 60 HZ. The formula for Xc=1/(2*PI*C in farads*frequency in HZ), Xc=1/(2*PI*0.000000047*60)=56,467 ohms impedance, but at 54 MHZ, the impedance is 1/(6.28*0.000000047*54,000,000)=15.9 ohms impedance. So that means, at 60 HZ, the frequency of AC, the capacitor does not conduct much electricity and will not dissipate much power. At RF VHF Channel 2, 54-60 MHZ, the capacitor will present a 15.9 ohm load to the radio energy, damping it out! This means the bulb just lost it’s transmitting antenna in the form of the AC Wiring! And if it can’t transmit, that means, it can’t be received by you antenna and compete with the ATSC HDTV Signal. How Dow I know all this? I am a Retired Radio Frequency Electronics Technician with 44 years of active experience troubleshooting testing and designing digital R.F. electronics. Everything from transmitters to Voltage Controlled Oscillators to RF Mixer and intermediate frequency Amplifiers to Microwave low noise amplifiers to high stability Varactor Controlled, Phase Lock Loop Local Oscillators using divide by N counters to perform Frequency Multiplication of the base Oscillator Frequency. All of these circuits are used in Transmit and Receive systems employed by transmission and reception of ATSC HDTV RF signals and the recovery of the high speed data used to recreate the picture and Audio for modern day high definition television.
Good explanation concerning LED bulbs but don't forget trees and foliage also impact OTA signals especially during the spring and summer growing seasons. Use an AM radio to also test for RF interference. In rural areas, electric fencing to corral cattle also emit interference. Such pulsing can also affect landline telephone service.
Thank you - solved my problem.... AFTER I replaced my Wingard amp with a Televes, thinking it was my amp. I have 3 or 4 incandescent bulbs left - the rest are LED. HOWEVER, the ONE I had in an automatic switch, a 3 way, was the culprit. NONE of my other LED bulbs create a problem - Except the other 3 way that gets turned on manually. The problem is minimum on the highest setting, but it still drops the signal meter about 20% on the highest setting.
"New & Improved" TV signal... "New & Improved" lightbulb... "New & Improved" has become the biggest red flag there is...for anything, really. It generally gets used as an all-purpose euphemism for the new version of something that's cheaper or trendier or more whatever, but that really sucks eggs, is totally unreliable &/or has a million & one flaws. Love your videos, AntennaMan!!
Good luck buying Incandescent 60W Bulbs now! They were banned, remember? Bought I bought cases for pennies on the dollar at HD when they were on clearance. So I've got 60W, 75W, and 100W for the EMP! Just kidding. But I do have and mix CFL, Incandescent, and LED bulbs for lighting and efficiency.
I used to live near Lambert Airport in St. Louis. Many times my picture would pixelate when a jet would land. I guess it was reflecting the signal and I was receiving 2 tv signals for the short time of the jet landing. After I figured out what was causing it, I stopped letting it bother me because there was nothing I could do about it.
Well, which light bulbs should I watch?.... those inside near the tv which I can see, or those outside in the neighborhood which the antenna sees? Long long ago in a galaxy far far away there was only analog TV. Back then, cloudy overcast days gave better reception than clear days, while clear nights gave better reception than cloudy overcast nights. I'm almost on a straight line betw Tampa to the southwest 50 miles and Orlando to the NE at 40 miles. I'm using a homemade DIY (Danny S Hodges-style) Hoverman-hybrid without a reflector screen which would cause it to be directionally biased. I get all the available UHF rf channels in the area. The VHF channels can be troublesome, and there are five high-VHF channels. The Tampa PBS, FOX, NBC, and CBS affiliates all are on rf 13, 12, 9, and 10 respectively. The Orlando NBC is on 11. Mornings betw 8 and 9 I can hold them all. Evenings can be iffy. Its' 9:03 pm EDT, I just walked over to the thermostat to turn off the A/C... why?... Because the antenna is on the same back-side of the house where the outside A/C unit is, and when it's running I get pixelation on the weaker of the TPA channels, the PBS on rf 13 and the NBC on rf 9. Some airlines have routes through Orl-MCO which start and terminate in TPA, and I'll have pixelation and signal loss on one of those TPA hi-VHF channels and then I can go out back a few minutes later and I'll see an airliner coming overhead from that direction on it's way into Orl. I shouldn't care -- except that all four of those TPA-based hi-VHF channels either have more subchannels or better local news broadcasting than their Orl counterparts. So I still have to experiment with ways to improve the gain on those TPA VHF channels, longer whiskers, or perhaps w/ a reflector-screen on just the lower half. Keep up the good work and swell videos!
Terrible advice, Buy better LED light bulbs, don't replace the LED bulb with incandescent. Solve the problem the right way, don't run away from it. You know what else causes RFI, the TV itself. LED backlights, Plasma TV's. OLED's. I own a couple spectrum analyzers and you would be shocked at the RFI from TV's and Monitors. Again buy LED bulbs that don't cause RFI.
So will your; Cell phone charger. Cell phone. Washer. Dryer. Almost any appliances that utilize alternating currents. ALSO; some/all of these devices may cause direct interference to reception from the height of your OTA antenna. Ever listen to your radios inside your home loudly? Nooooo... Well, have any objects "buzzed", or "hummed" when a certain note sounded? That's due to clashing of frequencies. That is harmonic distortion, or, harmonics. Don't be fooled, snd thinking it's resonance. Resonance wil be much more subtle, anz could actually make reception just a wee bit better.
I still collect different TV antennas from AMAZON. The one flashlight that's best is called VICTAGEN. 6 of them light up the entire living room and last almost 14 hours with one charge. No reception problems. I place 4 in front my 75 inch NANO TV. Simply pointing straight up, they create a torch effect illuminating the ceiling above the big screen. Of course AMAZON is sold out- aren't they always?
I have this exact problem - and reached the same conclusion (an LED Light Bulb). In my case the problem arises when darkness falls (so obviously a Security Light of some sort). Problem is, it isn't mine, but coming from somewhere nearby. I need some way to track the interference to it's source. Looking out the window when it happens hasn't worked (lots of trees around here block my view). Would like suggestions from others.
You're too funny. Listen, LED lightbulbs definitely can cause interference, but there are some LED lightbulbs now that don't affect the reception. I know because I have tried it. They are also getting made differently since this video. Secondly, some FLORESCENT fixtures and lightbulbs cause it too. I found out once that my kitchen florescent fixture over my sink was causing my interference, so I changed the fixture completely, and used 2 LED lightbulbs that didn't affect the interference. Also, EVEN after I had turned the florescent light off, I was still getting interference, so after I changed the light fixture, the problem was GONE. Sometimes there is current running through the florescent fixture even though the light is turned off, and that was also causing my problems. So it can also come from the type of fixture when the wires are connected to it. Also, by the way, I do NOT use a "leaf" antenna, or that other junk piece of antenna you were showing. I use a Winegard 7694P in my attic, and down next to my 2nd floor window, I have a DB4e, and I receive most and sometimes all my channels. Right now, the channels are coming in and going out all the time, and my friend Bill who works at Lowes, thinks it's the weather. He's having the same problem. It. could be the summer causing problems. But it's NOT my antennas, and not my preamps and boosters... I did get my LTE filters and I have yet to try them. I just got them and right now, we are having a heat wave.... So I want to wait until it's a wee cooler right now...
Been watching Your Videos....I am a Radio and TV nut...I grew up with Antenna TV...The First DX I did was with TV...Got as far as Chicago on TV.. from California...I wish I could do that again?...where I live I get six stations on a Antenna....
I have an outdoor antenna an have a solid clear picture except for about 20 minutes 3 times a day when it has heavy pixelation and frozen pixelated screens with no sound. It occurs sometime between 7:35 AM to 8:20 AM, between 12:00 PM and 12:45 Pm and again somewhere between 5 PM and 6:30 PM 7 days a week. Nothing in my house is on that time cycle. There are no nearby businesses. The only thing I can think of would be an over powered Ham radio. My neighbor would be tapped off the same power transformer, but I would not think their electrical interference would effectively my reception. Any ideas appreciated. I have searched the web for this issue without results.
I did an audit of my RF noise for AM band. I turned off all my power strips. and tuned to a fringe AM station. The hardest offender to find was a USB charging line not on a strip. Came with the Amazon Kindle. The PC monitor, dimmable LEDs not as noisy as regular. LED noise worse in daylight. the inductive cook top kills shortwave. Lamps with large shades I've inserted a Y-socket insert offering two sockets. An noisy item was a touch an glow lamp for incandescent. LED's do affect weak TV, turn on a lamp and the picture drops audio or picture for a moment. I put one noisy bulb in and a quiet one in for easy adjustment. My poor man's solution to a 3 way bulb using one-way lights. I now turn off my TV and the power strip both when it is off. If my Samsung HD is spying on me, they will have to use their own power, not mine. My AM station is still in the middle of a estate dispute. When the wind blows and a lose cable arcs on the transmitter. For years I blamed the welders on the next block. But the wind also blows on days they are closed. C'mon Probate judge. It's been since December. Rollye James left West Chester PA for Globe Ariz about 10 years ago. She doesn't mind night time power failures. It is her chance to do AM DXing like the old days, without the modern gadgets RF clutter.
“[Nero] Wolfe was in his office looking at television, which gives him a lot of pleasure. I have seen him turn it on as many as eight times in one evening, glare at it from one to three minutes, turn it off, and go back to his book.” - _The Golden Spiders_ (1953) written by Rex Stout (a tip of the hat for the site nerowolfe.org for helping this old Wolfe fan find that quote again!). Boy, I’ve got a few things to say about this video. What a turn-off! I’m no Nero Wolfe, who amongst avoiding doing other things, maintains a an entire floor of orchids in his brownstone home, but I _do_ maintain plants in an aquarium near my TV. I’ve been growing plants with LED daylight bulbs with a certain amount of success over the last ten years. One might say those bulbs have indirectly given me much entertainment and pleasure. Would you, oh so clever TH-cam reviewer, like to make fun of my choice of bulb after five minutes of “do ya want me to talk and talk and talk and make you wait for the punchline?!” Don’t worry, I’ve already unsubscribed! It’s almost like a Nero Wolfe night of TV! And I’ll figure out another way to record that _one channel with that one weekly program_ I want!
Poor cabling and bad connectors make the problem worse too. Rg6, Good quality ends(if you make your own cable), and 0-3000hz (khz?) splitters reduce a number of problems. Former Dtv installer.
Interesting. I live in an apartment, have my old RCA antenna set up out on my patio. Used it for years, no issues until recently. Connected to bedroom TV and at night I begin to lose reception on a few of my stations. No LED's in my apartment at night but LED security lights. Hmmm. However, living room tv, same type of antenna connected to a pole outside window and actually closer to LED security lights...no problem. There is an AC unit within 10 feet of the patio antenna. I'm wondering if that isn't the issue (wind from the unit) and especially since I just recently started noticing the issue. Guess I'll have to sleep on the couch in living room until winter! LOL
I bought expensive Sylvania LED floods for outside my garage, would lose 2 of my channels when they were on, bought off brand LED floods that were 1/2 the price- no problems with channels.... go figure.
Some brands are worse than other. Some don’t cause interference at all. Philips LEDs don’t put out much of any interfere. I noticed the GE LEDs are the worst. Most Philips bulbs don’t seem to make any interference. I’ve demonstrated this... I have a shortwave radio and some things interfere and others don’t. The worst offenders are not light bulbs, they are dish machines and washing machines! Computers are very high on the list. My LEDs do not interfere with my radio at all. CFL bulbs are REALLY bad about interference!
LED bulbs are required to comply with Part 15 of the FCC rules as an unintentional radiator. This is a legal requirement for these bulbs to be sold in the USA. However, due to lax or non-existent enforcement of these regulations by the dimbulbs in Washington, it is very easy to purchase LED bulbs that do not meet these requirements. These LED bulbs that do not meet FCC regulations will likely also not be UL listed, which means that they could be a fire or electrocution hazard. Big box stores will usually not sell LED bulbs that do not meet UL and FCC requirements due to the liability, but online sellers are typically less cautious about selling unsafe junk. If an LED bulb meets Part 15 of the FCC rules it will say so and/or have the FCC logo on it. It will likely also be UL listed and have the UL logo along with a file number that begins with E, and you can look this file number up on the UL website to find out if it's valid and who the actual manufacturer is.
LED interference with TV signal...I will recommended to return to school and learn about frequency distribution. I will be more concert with FLCs as the electronics ballast may operate in more the 10 KHz, that still way below TV signal. If the antenna is couple feet from the interference source you will have direct coupling, Sometime the interference propagate from faulty appliance AC line. The flat black antenna have pretty dissent performance if use within RF amplifier. This antenna is good if you live in city where the transmitter is petty close and not much obstructing your line of site.. This antennas use to be made with clear plastic and you could see metalized strip of conductor. The manufacture switch to black plastics so no body copy their design - it is very simple to copy - pretty difficult to design. This is very clever design to make wide band antenna. This technics is use in microwave circuits. I have similar flat antenna in my apartment building in Brooklyn NY, Iit is 11 mile from Empire State Buildings, and I am getting around 60 channels in apartment on 5th floor where the TV signal go thru the building. The only problem I have is channel 11 & 13. I can say it not so bed antenna at all.
Channel Master is bringing out their huge CM-3671 antenna probably due to the repacks. I don’t have interference issues as I use the CM-4228 HD outdoors and Quad Shield Coax.
By F.C.C. rules, all high-power radio and television stations reduce their transmitter power at sunset and return to high power at sunrise. If you are already at the ragged edge of receiving a channel during the day, then you will most likely lose it at night. The channel will probably come back the next day. The "noisy" L.E.D. lightbulb will make the problem worse with locally generated noise in close proximity to the T.V. It is like trying to listen to someone whisper in a noisy room, while a person yells in your ear. It is worth a try to follow AntennaManPA's advice to see if it will reduce the noise level at the T.V.
Shows an antenna and says, "this is junk". Me: Yeah, I just got rid of that one. Shows next antenna, "this is also junk". Me. Shoot, I just replaced the first with the second. Fortunately, I now know better and when the BPD unit breaks, I'll buy one of the Clear Stream or Channel Master models recommended by Antenna Man.
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I appreciate you for telling the truth. Producers cheat people. :-( If the signal is good during the day and weaker at night, it is related to a weak antenna. The propagation of waves at night is different than during the day
What brand LED bulbs do not give off interference. Thanks Tyler for your insight and honest straight talk too.
@@victoryfirst2878 I'm told some name brands or ones with the FCC logo on the box. You can also just get a regular incandescent bulb 💡
@@AntennaMan Thank you for letting me know Antenna Man. I will remember this fact for life. Peace vf
I get 30 channels with my square antenna and the Fox channel goes off sometimes at 6 and stays off till 7 but I tried the LED thing and that wasn't it but thanks anyway have a great day.
Watching the light bulb DID NOT entertain me, but hearing the junk antennas hit the floor 3 times DID!
Why do people keep buying these junk antennas? Because cheap does as cheap is.
Maybe partying will help. 😅
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I bought one on a goof for that reason, the antenna actually kinda works but like he said the preamp blows out in a month, I didn't use long enough to find out.
@@ninocervini7867 I bought on of thr flat antennas. I read the marketing hype and the reviews that said it was the best invention since sliced bread and it uses military technology so you know it has to be good.
Then I searched to figure out why it didn't work as well as the old RCA rabbit ears I had before the digital change and came across this channel.
So lack of knowledge and marketing hype did it for me. I assume I'm not alone.
@@ninocervini7867 Many of these get a lot of stars on Amazon, for whatever reason. Caveat Emptor.
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The cheaper LED light bulbs, like the Sunbeam ones that Dollar Tree sells, which use a simple capacitive dropper power supply are actually better in this regard because they cause a lot less RF interference than the fancier ones. The downside is that their light output has more flicker which may cause eyestrain.
In the UK "Poundland" sell great LED light bulbs for £1. One of the TH-cam electronics enthusiasts/professionals did some tear down videos on the Poundland bulbs and was surprised at how well made their bulbs were.
Oh I also forgot to mention that my automatic garage door instructions recommend not installing LED lights in the garage as it could cause the door opener not to work due to the RF interference of LED bulbs. I left the LED lights in the garage and haven’t had issues but I kept it in mind.
ds99 our LED puck lights in the kitchen prevented the remote control for our garage door opener from working. It took some time for us to figure out the source of that problem!
You really brightened my day. Thanks for the info.
Thanks Tyler!! :-) And who would ever thought it was so simple as an LED light bulb. I swear Tyler, you never cease to amaze me, you're awesome dude. Have a great day!!! -Melvin - Sunday, May 10, 2020 - 3:09 PM Mountain Time - Colorado Springs, Co
Yesterday I saw a TH-cam video about installing an outdoor antenna, and the guy found he was getting interference from a LED fixture in an attic. His solution was to install an aluminum pie plate above the fixture as an RF shield.
LED bulbs are hardly simple on the inside! Some are made to respond to dimmers, others cannot do that and will shut off as dimming is attempted. There is serious electronics in both CFL and LED Bulbs! Find a functional AM Radio, tune it off station and put it closer to either a CFL or standard fluorescent or LED bulb and hear what is really going on, then put it up to an incandescent and notice the lack of interference.
@@DishNetworkDealerNEO saw your post after my rant. an AM radio can find all kinds of things. My AM radio pings constantly near my new "silent" electric smart meter. Right.
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I have LED lightbulbs all over my house but my antenna is in the attic so that could be why I have a great signal 24/7. I remember as a kid our tv would get messed up if mom was vacuuming or using the electric mixer. We only had a couple of VHF channels in our location back then. As a kid I used to think it was interference going through the electrical wiring of the house. I didn’t realize it was interference in the airwaves. I just knew the vacuum was plugged into an electrical outlet and so was the tv so it must be scrambling the electrical power. 😂
I have this issue when i run the paper shears on channel 9 (physical) i thought it had to do with the amp
This dude sure hates those junk Antennas!
Funniest episode yet.
Fluorescent lights also cause a lot of RF noise as well, both in radios and TV Reception.
Yes i discovered that the fluorescent light in my kitchen was the culprit. It pretty much kills channels 9 & 11 here in the LA area.
Switch to LED. F8- 2 foot or 4 foot tubes
I guessed it right away. I ran into this problem a few years back, but with the 2 Meter Ham band and the NOAA weather radio frequencies both of which are a bit below channel 7.
Yep, my old police scanner has bacon sizzling in the background if the overhead leds are on .
My UHF ham radio band gets a n annoying buz every few minutes. I think it's smart meters.
@@perkunast9680 YA know--- I think you're right. Same here.
As a TV engineer for a local station, I cannot tell you how many viewer phone calls I get about this. One lady recently had this problem and I suggested changing her light bulbs and she called back two days later to say thank you.
Great videos!
I started designing antennas in 1974. Antenna wave propagation can be complicated but you do a good job of explaining the differences between VHF and UHF.
Also, thanks for trying to wean people off of the idea of an “HD” antenna.
However, a point can be made that an antenna that is specifically designed with the new frequencies in mind can be referred to as an HD antenna in the sense that the new frequencies allotted for TV are done so with the idea of digital transmissions in mind which then results in a signal that supports HD resolution.
A few companies have designed such.
Other the other hand, technically, an antenna is neither Analog or Digital, HD, side band, narrow band, etc.
An antenna is cut to work a particular frequency and range of frequencies regardless of the TYPE of transmission.
Please keep up the great work. There is not enough guys like you who with go to the lengths you go in explaining what people need to do and why, to get the best possible TV reception.
Do you have a specific antenna that you would recommend?
I understand what you are saying. The same argument was used when stations began using color back in the 60's. There was no such thing as an antenna that supported color. Any antenna did. I would prefer they drop all of the HD, 1080i, atsc 3.0 and all that crap and just advertise it as a VHF or UHF antenna or both. It's misleading to most consumers. And they should also advertise the gain of the antenna, gain at VHF and gain at UHF so consumers can make intelligent purchasing decisions. This 45 mi, 60 mi, 100 mi rating is crap and also misleading. Furthermore, they advertise some UHF antennas with VHF capability when it's VHF capability is only marginal. The antenna industry (specifically those made in foreign countries) needs to be cleaned up and Tyler is doing a great job getting the truth out.
Interesting, indeed! I recall back in the analog days of TV, the reception culprit could have been with fluorescent lighting, as the ballasts in those lighting fixtures were notorious for frequency interference if you used an indoor antenna.
Computers were also notorious for causing problems with analog TV reception. Anything below channel 6 was the worst affected.
YES, absolutely. I ended up getting rid of the whole fixture completely and put up a 2-bulb fixture, and used 2 LEDs that didn't affect my TV reception. Now, once in a while, I'll have an LED that will interfere, but luckily, I don't go in that room much for anything ;-P But certain LEDs can work without interference.
You're killing me Tyler! LMFAO!
Good advice, but incandescent bulbs are difficult to find now since they're only available now in lower wattage. And I also agree with earlier posters that getting quality LED bulbs can make a difference.
My dad had similar issue in his garage with the FM radio caused by led lights. He re-ran the antenna wire to fix the issue.
The only problem I've had with LED bulbs was interference with my garage door opener. Replacing them with Genie low interference 60W equivalent LED bulbs cured it. They go for about $10 each and work in any standard bulb socket. Just possible it might work for TV signals too.
Exactly. Build quality varies on bulbs, many cheaper ones are more likely to create interference than higher quality ones.
I had the same problem with my garage door opener and LED lights.
LEDs eh? Good tip,, I think I might be a victim of this.
Wow. I was expecting a microwave instead of a light bulb lol
No Microwaves don't emit anything harmful, believe it or not.
@@kb1kos Yeah but I remember back in the day they used to mess with your wifi signal. Or at least I remember being told that at some point when I was young
Me too, & yes Google it, it can indeed cause issues.
Microwave Magnetron operates at 2.43GHz, same frequency as wifi. FDA regulates external emissions be below1 micro watt per meter, therefore no wifi interference. If wifi or fm radio or tv problems exist, you risk sterility and cancer too.
LOL! That started my day off right!
And Natually All Of The Electrical Companies Are Changing Their Outdoor Lighting To LED ..
Very interesting video regarding the LED lightbulbs. I thought for sure you were going to name the clothes dryer as the culprit. I also enjoyed your telling people in Spanish not to buy the junk antennas! Nicely done!
Just bought and installed the Winegard HD7694P, nice! Got more stations, and the ones I've been getting come in stronger with this unit. And im about 50 miles away from towers.
Yes that is a decent medium sized antenna
Yep. I have noticed it when I replaced my living room light bulb with an led. And yes a lightbulb can be more entertaining than some of the crap that is on TV now a days.............lol
To find the offending light bulb, take an old fashioned AM transistor radio tune it in to static, then physically hold it up to each light bulb, dimmer switch, outlet, transformer and more. You will be able to hear the interference. Each bulb hums differently, and the loudest one is usually the issue. The AM radio is highly sensitive, it will also normally pick up more interference on one side (for example the left side) than the other. (This is based on how the circuit board components are laid out in the radio.) You can also put the TV and the TV antenna amplifier on a different circuit/plug than the offending light bulb.
I would switch a noisy light bulb with a quiet one. The ‘huge’ issue of global warming, appliance efficiency, and fossil fuel simply does not warrant using 100 year old grossly inefficient technology.
A more reasonable approach is to identify the ‘offending’ lamp and replace it with a ‘quiet’ LED.
Rich Rodriguez The global warming issue is a lie. It is not man made. Become stronger than the brainwashing.
I just got the most channels and best reception I've ever had for years now ✌️✌️
I do believe you have solved a mystery. Most of the time I have perfect reception. I have always used regular incandescent bulbs but my neighbors may not. I share a wall with another unit and that is where my antenna is mounted. Sometimes I lose some of my channels even when the weather is good. If cable companies wanted to force people to keep paying for cable they would invest in these bulbs.
Not only might LED bulbs specific to a brand cause RFI but another source is light dimmers.
I seem to gain channels at night
Great Video dude!!! Dont buy this antenna! DONT BUY THIS ANTENNA!! LMAO
YES, I replaced the fluorescent lights in my garage with LED lights and the garage door remote control only works now if i am directly in front of the door with the remote in my hand and pointing it to the door. If I turn off the lights, then it works normal
maxbored install a remote light switch to turn the LED lights off while remote commanding the garage door to open or close. The remote light switch will be designed to have plenty of range despite the interference from the LED bulbs. Another way is to install Snubber Capacitors on the lightbulbs fixtures as outlined in one of my other posts in this thread.
Perhaps route/reroute the garage door opener antenna closer to the outside. Copper wire is usually all you need to extend the garage opener antenna.
Tyler's showing more of his sense of humor! :)
Thank you for not clickbaiting. The weird thing I am encountering with antenna reception is that I actually get many more local channels than are available on local cable. In Dallas there are 85 or more channels, most of them subchannels of the major network channels.
if you still have an analog tuner and a good uhf antenna in a good location you can pick up channel 22.
Holy Smoke Antenna Man!! Problem solved. I live in rural northeastern Maryland on the Maryland-Pennsylvania line. No cable or internet in my area. I’ve always had to have a good outdoor TV antenna with a good pre-amp and get great reception. Recently, I’ve been experiencing poor TV reception every night for the past two weeks, where I was losing several RF channels (11 & 12) only during the evening hours. Great reception during the day. Never had any similar unexplained issues before. Totally frustrated!! Watched your video and gave it some thought as I sat on my couch this evening. Finally, I got up, walked outside onto my back deck and unplugged the 12 strings of my new LED Xmas lights (these lights were almost directly underneath my outdoor antenna). Immediately, my poor TV reception totally cleared up! Figuring that it was a fluke, during the next several hours I turned the LED Xmas lights on and off having the same results each time; poor reception with the lights on and excellent reception with the lights off. Looks like I’m gonna have to dig out my old incandescent Xmas lights tomorrow. Thanks for your help. Enjoyed your video. Happy Holidays!!! 🎄
I'm glad my videos helped you get better reception. Feel free to give a contribution at the link below as I spend A LOT of time making the videos and responding to these comments:
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Well I'll be horn-swaggled!!!
LEDs were supposed to be the greatest thing since sliced bread, 9 watts instead of 100 etc. Fortunately I always watch TV with the lights out anyway, but I'll try the experiment. Great video, you're better than most stand-up comics!
I think LED lightbulbs are the dumbest invention ever.
In recent years linear power supplies have been replaced by cheaper "switching power supplies" because of their higher power output capacity,, and smaller size. These switching power supplies are commonly the culprit in LEDs that generate RFI (Radio frequency Interference) or "noise". Some are noisier than others, usually because of a faulty bypass capacitor inside the power supply even though this power supply will otherwise function normally. They are mostly used to power phone chargers, modems or routers. By the way, these noisy power supplies are often the reason your WiFi service is degraded.
Good call. RF, from any device could definitely affect reception. Lower powered devices could, too, due to those nasty (sometimes) little harmonics.
I bet you make your own antennas...
Light bulbs are only entertaining when Uncle Fester uses them
In my new camper I have a great disk antenna on roof that works great during daylight but loses signal at night and I might add that I do try to adjust the antenna T night to no avail. How do I fix this? Thankyou
You likely need a better antenna. Disc style omni directional antennas don't work well. Consider replacing it with this model and pointing it towards the closest city: bit.ly/2W92bEB
I just cut the cord and have been watching your videos on many different scenarios and I appreciate the work that you do.
I’m having problems where channels will not come in during the early morning (when it’s still dark out).
I do have LED lights but they are motion sensing lights so they are technical off when there is no motion around.
I’m using a ClearStream 4Max antenna.
The light bulbs are Motion Sensor LED Light Bulb 9W A19 PIR Built-in IR 60W Equivalent Bright 810 Lumens E26 Base Warm White Bulbs and I have 4 of them in the house.
I don’t know if it is the lights because they are in and have power going to them, but they are not illuminated.
I forgot to mention that I have a bunch of LED night lights that turn on at disk and off at dawn.
Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
Don't necessarily have to switch to an incandescent, can try a different make/model of CFL/LED bulb. Bulb quality and construction varies wildly. Plenty of people with OTA use LED/CFL bulbs without issue.
As for you suggesting that switching from LED to incandescent isn't a big deal in terms of cost, yes it is. Electric bill drops from $300 a month to $50 a month with the switch from Incandescent to LED/CFL.
Perhaps putting the CFL/LED on a separate circuit would be enough to alleviate the signal issues if trying different brand of LED/CFL bulb doesn't work.
Nice vid! I assume that since LEDs are DC, the RF noise is coming from the power converter that changes 110AC to DC. It's possible different brands are better built and don't have the problem. This might also be a problem for ham radio because they use VHF and UHF bands.
Yes Tyler, I have problems with FM reception. I have LED Light Bulbs and when I turn them on the medium to low signal radio channels completely disappear. Lucky I have an outdoor FM antenna and don't have a problem with FM reception. Even LED TVs and Monitors ruins the signal.
Nicholas 2016 adding snubber capacitor into the power strip used with these devices can cut the RF Interference. See my other post in this thread for details.
Wow, something as simple as a light bulb. Question, do cables from the electrical poles on the streets interfere with the reception? I seem to lose certain channels during the day, but at night they come back
Bad daytime and good night time reception could be due to the way that the atmosphere can bend VHF and UHF signals. In the daytime there's hot air near the earth's surface and colder air aloft. This tends to bend the radio waves upwards, reducing signal strength near the earth. At night the earth cools rapidly, so the air near the ground is cooler than the air aloft, bending the radio waves downwards and making them stronger near the earth. Also, some stations change power level and antenna pattern at night.
The most channels I have gotten is very early morning which is 87. Late afternoon and evening......40 to 50. Big difference! Thanks again for another great video!
Also some cheap power adapter cause it to. I got a radio charger that was some knock off brand and during charging singnal would jump up down every few seconds.
I have a number of cordless RIDGID power tools. If I have the RIDGID charger charging batteries in the workshop, my shop radio is filled with the loud buzzz of static and can't be listened to.
Being thst the AC adapter is charging a radio, or near a radio, need a conventional charger with an old school 60 HZ transformer, not a switch mode high frequency AC to DC power supply.
The old school 60 HZ ac to DC power adapters are heavy in comparison the same voltage and current of the newer switching power supplies. Radio Shack sold literally tons of them and only units last dying gasp, sold the new switching AC to DC adapters.
Aww crap.. All my lights inside and out are LED's.. I would have to watch TV in the Dark... :)
Happy Mothers day to your mom.. She raised one smart kid... :)
For me it’s the reverse. At night, tv reception is best. During the day, especially after the sun is risen or is at its highest point, reception problems abound.
Also, I agree about those junk antennas. Never buying one again. I made my own from some tip I found on ytb. Basically, it’s a long coaxial cable that’s been stripped about a foot at the end point. I get all the channels and then even some I could hardly pickup with those other fake antennas
Mic drop has now been replaced by antenna drop
I think the LED bulb is more entertaining than what is on PBS.
I agree. PBS makes me fall asleep.
Thanks for that information. I have a clear stream 2 max indoor outdoor. Thanks to you Antanna Man. It's going to be a better antanna, right!
LEDs DO NOT cause RF interference. LEDs are essentially diodes & do not generate RF. Some of the poorly designed power supplies inside LED bulbs used to drive them may cause interference. Most of them are OK, causing interference on the much lower AM radio, or shortwave radio bands if the receiver or antenna is nearby, but not on FM, VHF, or UHF. The majority of LED light bulbs & Christmas lights do not have those defective power supplies, but a few do. Excessive RF emissions from devices & power supplies are prohibited under FCC law. However, a florescent light near it's end of life or flickering can cause VHF interference from a couple doors down. Mercury vapor, & Sodium (yellow/orange ones) outdoor lights near the end of their life can cause interference on AM, SW, & VHF from over a block away.
Science: All diodes are simple rectifiers. It was discovered long ago that they can emit infrared light. With the use of phosphors & chemicals they were able to convert the infrared light to visible light for Light Emitting Diodes (LEDs)... in warm colors like red, orange, & yellow-greens.
Since then they developed diodes that emit ultraviolet light. Through the use of phosphors they convert the UV light in modern LEDs to colder colors, like deep green, blue, violet, & white. LEDs are still just simple rectifiers & do not emit radio or TV signals & interference... not even Christmas lights. It's a hoax for clicks & headlines.
However, some of the power supplies used to drive LED from house current or batteries may emit tons of radio waves & RF noise. But it's usually in the Khz range interfering with AM & shortwave radio. There are a rare few LED power supplies that will generate noise up to 3-4Mhz, far below low VHF starting at around 50Mhz. Typical modern UHF TV frequencies start at around 500Mhz.
I'm a ham radio operator, heavily involved in electronics, & have spent a large portion of my life since a teen working with RF. I've never detected RF from any LED, & never detected any RF from their power supplies above 3Mhz. There's LED light everywhere in my house for well over a decade.
But if there is an interactive bulb operated by a remote, or via wifi, higher frequencies may be involved that may interfere with TV, FM, or your wifi. The LEDs are not at fault, but it may be some crap electronics used to run them. Just don't buy garbage. They could burn your house down or give you a shock someday anyway.
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I was thinking on the line of the FM trap since its frequency borders with high VHF & old Low VHF above channel 6, Its probably more of an issue with amplified indoor antennas vs Outdoor Rooftop antennas
I have to disagree with "it saves you a few cents on your electric bill". They actually save quite a bit. Especially if you got a household with kids that don't know how to turn off lights
Here in Germany we don`t have that problem with TV because all TV stations moved to UHF when they switched over to DVB-T2 (a similar system to ATSC 3.0) a few years ago. But we do have digital radio (DAB+) on VHF which is often affected by LED bulbs. Some LEDs cause more problems than others. Usually you can fix the problem by changing them, sometimes you only have to swap around bulbs you already have. Incandescent bulbs are not really an option. They have been banned and old stock is increasingly hard to find these days.
Tyler; Incandescent light bulbs are being phased out in favor of LED bulbs thanks to our good friends at the U.S. Federal Government, so going out to get those is going to become more difficult over time. Perhaps another alternative solution to this problem can be suggested?
I really enjoy your channel and find it very informative, thank you for the content.
A different banded LED bulb may give off less noise than a cheaper model. If not, stock up!
@@AntennaMan I find some of the more expensive and higher quality LED don't cause issues - incandescents may be discontinued but they sell halogens that look and cost about the same.
i remember vacuum cleaners used to interfere with TVs
They probably still do. That and microwaves but they aren't on all the time.
only the picture. Audio and color weren't bothered.
AKA Spark Transmitters like in the early 1900s generating broadband electrical noise.
Back in the 70’s I was able to operate a garage door opener with the noise from a 1/4” electric drill.
Plus they scare the heck out of my cat
Long fluorescent tubes, commonly found in overhead shop lights, are another source of broadband noise. When my basement shop light and garage shop lights are on, over the air interference becomes a real problem. Using a spectrum analyzer, I found that the ambient noise floor jumps more than 20% when those lights are on.
John Clark adding snubber capacitors across the bulb’s connections at the ballast output wires may help. High working voltages on the capacitor such as 1000 volts are recommended. The value of 0.047 uF (47 nF) would still be appropriate.
Before you switch to lightbulbs that waste money producing resistive heat (unless that is desirable for you), try some different types of LEDs. Some types put out almost no interference at all: th-cam.com/video/0T-hIY4-UxU/w-d-xo.html .
what you were describing sounds very similar to an article I read years ago about LED lightbulbs interfering with Wi-Fi reception as well. So if they can interfere with Wi-Fi then what you’re saying makes absolute sense. I am a ham radio operator, and some of my friends that are in the hobby with me have said the same thing about the same bulbs causing problems with radio reception to.
I live in a brick four floor brick apartment building in Ohio, and for some strange reason, I can get up to 24 over the air TV channels during the day, but at night, I receive much more than that. Why is that?
My Ch7 VHF interference came from my low voltage LED landscape lights from Lowes. Was having an issue from dusk to dawn when the lights came on. Took them out and problem went away.
It's certainly something to check. People buy LED bulbs because they are cheaper to operate. The interference is likely coming from a crap switching power supply in the bulb. Different kinds of bulbs may eliminate the interference. LED filament bulbs and other cheaper bulbs may solve the problem due to having just a simple full bridge rectifier without any room for smoothing capacitors. The downside is that they'll flicker 120 times a second. You may or may not notice unless you look at a running fan. Notice that I'm talking about switching power supplies here rather than the LEDs themselves. Any switch mode power supply could cause that kind of interference including USB chargers and peripherals that you use on your TV set. The interference could occur at any time of the day. I wouldn't doubt that a lot of the noisy power supplies end up in LED bulbs since they may overlook it. I'd just try a different brand of LED light bulb before just giving up and going back to inefficient incandescent bulbs. If you've only used brand name bulbs because of quality issues, a simple generic bulb might be your solution. I'm too cheap to buy anything else, and I really haven't noticed any issues. I do keep them on most of the time, though.
LOL, i recently started having this problem on channels that were showing 100% strength during the day, then dropped to 0% as soon as it got dark. Turned out to be an outdoor infrared LED light panel that I simply changed the direction it was aiming last week. I unplugged it just now and I'm back to 100%. Thanks antenna man!
The thing is that 1 led 60 Watt equivalent light bulb saves $15 a year over incandescent. That's each bill. It doesn't take many bulbs to save an entire months power bill. My guess is better quality LED's likely have less RF interference than the cheap dollar store ones, would be an interesting test. Probably is put the antenna outside, and mount it as high as possible. That's further from the bulbs, and better for the signal
Better quality LEDs will meet FCC regulations and will be UL listed as well, and are less likely to burn your house down or electrocute you.
@M Detlef A poorly designed led bulb can in fact be a fire hazard. There are certain things that have to be taken into consideration when laying out a circuit board that will have mains voltage applied to it, for example
Vince from Western PA here, he's exactly right. I have an AC to DC transformer touching my RG11 (evening LED landscape lighting), moved the coax just 3 inches away from the transformer and voila, both channels I would lose every evening while the lights are on, came back in strong. One is VHF and the other channel is UHF.
Hello Tyler, stay in an apartment complex they put LED LIGHTS in walkways and at night it knocks out my favorite channels like CBS, ANTENNA TV.......WHAT CAN I DO??????? HELP!!!!!!
A snubber capacitor could be used be installing it in the between hot and neutral in the existing light socket. A 0.047 uF (47 nF) 250 Volt AC Polypropylene Safety Capacitor, easily found on eBay for 10 for $5.99 with fast and free could be soldered across the terminal lugs of the offending bulb’s socket in the light fixture’s center and collar terminals and short circuit most radio frequency noise emanating from the LED Bulb’s internal Switch Mode power supply. This prevents the bulb’s internal power supply from being a transmitting antenna for the hash coming from the switch mode power supply of the LED bulb! Expect future Fixture designs to have this built into the fixtures as LED bulbs become dominant! The capacitor barely reacts to the actual 60 HZ 120 VAC due to the extremely high Xc at 60 HZ. The formula for Xc=1/(2*PI*C in farads*frequency in HZ), Xc=1/(2*PI*0.000000047*60)=56,467 ohms impedance, but at 54 MHZ, the impedance is 1/(6.28*0.000000047*54,000,000)=15.9 ohms impedance.
So that means, at 60 HZ, the frequency of AC, the capacitor does not conduct much electricity and will not dissipate much power. At RF VHF Channel 2, 54-60 MHZ, the capacitor will present a 15.9 ohm load to the radio energy, damping it out! This means the bulb just lost it’s transmitting antenna in the form of the AC Wiring! And if it can’t transmit, that means, it can’t be received by you antenna and compete with the ATSC HDTV Signal. How Dow I know all this? I am a Retired Radio Frequency Electronics Technician with 44 years of active experience troubleshooting testing and designing digital R.F. electronics. Everything from transmitters to Voltage Controlled Oscillators to RF Mixer and intermediate frequency Amplifiers to Microwave low noise amplifiers to high stability Varactor Controlled, Phase Lock Loop Local Oscillators using divide by N counters to perform Frequency Multiplication of the base Oscillator Frequency. All of these circuits are used in Transmit and Receive systems employed by transmission and reception of ATSC HDTV RF signals and the recovery of the high speed data used to recreate the picture and Audio for modern day high definition television.
Good explanation concerning LED bulbs but don't forget trees and foliage also impact OTA signals especially during the spring and summer growing seasons. Use an AM radio to also test for RF interference. In rural areas, electric fencing to corral cattle also emit interference. Such pulsing can also affect landline telephone service.
Thank you - solved my problem.... AFTER I replaced my Wingard amp with a Televes, thinking it was my amp. I have 3 or 4 incandescent bulbs left - the rest are LED. HOWEVER, the ONE I had in an automatic switch, a 3 way, was the culprit. NONE of my other LED bulbs create a problem - Except the other 3 way that gets turned on manually. The problem is minimum on the highest setting, but it still drops the signal meter about 20% on the highest setting.
"New & Improved"
TV signal...
"New & Improved"
lightbulb...
"New & Improved"
has become the biggest
red flag there is...for anything, really.
It generally gets used as
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for the new version of something
that's cheaper or trendier
or more whatever, but that
really sucks eggs, is totally unreliable
&/or has a million & one flaws.
Love your videos, AntennaMan!!
Good luck buying Incandescent 60W Bulbs now! They were banned, remember? Bought I bought cases for pennies on the dollar at HD when they were on clearance. So I've got 60W, 75W, and 100W for the EMP! Just kidding. But I do have and mix CFL, Incandescent, and LED bulbs for lighting and efficiency.
I used to live near Lambert Airport in St. Louis. Many times my picture would pixelate when a jet would land. I guess it was reflecting the signal and I was receiving 2 tv signals for the short time of the jet landing. After I figured out what was causing it, I stopped letting it bother me because there was nothing I could do about it.
Well, which light bulbs should I watch?.... those inside near the tv which I can see, or those outside in the neighborhood which the antenna sees? Long long ago in a galaxy far far away there was only analog TV. Back then, cloudy overcast days gave better reception than clear days, while clear nights gave better reception than cloudy overcast nights. I'm almost on a straight line betw Tampa to the southwest 50 miles and Orlando to the NE at 40 miles. I'm using a homemade DIY (Danny S Hodges-style) Hoverman-hybrid without a reflector screen which would cause it to be directionally biased. I get all the available UHF rf channels in the area. The VHF channels can be troublesome, and there are five high-VHF channels. The Tampa PBS, FOX, NBC, and CBS affiliates all are on rf 13, 12, 9, and 10 respectively. The Orlando NBC is on 11. Mornings betw 8 and 9 I can hold them all. Evenings can be iffy. Its' 9:03 pm EDT, I just walked over to the thermostat to turn off the A/C... why?... Because the antenna is on the same back-side of the house where the outside A/C unit is, and when it's running I get pixelation on the weaker of the TPA channels, the PBS on rf 13 and the NBC on rf 9. Some airlines have routes through Orl-MCO which start and terminate in TPA, and I'll have pixelation and signal loss on one of those TPA hi-VHF channels and then I can go out back a few minutes later and I'll see an airliner coming overhead from that direction on it's way into Orl. I shouldn't care -- except that all four of those TPA-based hi-VHF channels either have more subchannels or better local news broadcasting than their Orl counterparts. So I still have to experiment with ways to improve the gain on those TPA VHF channels, longer whiskers, or perhaps w/ a reflector-screen on just the lower half. Keep up the good work and swell videos!
Terrible advice, Buy better LED light bulbs, don't replace the LED bulb with incandescent. Solve the problem the right way, don't run away from it. You know what else causes RFI, the TV itself. LED backlights, Plasma TV's. OLED's. I own a couple spectrum analyzers and you would be shocked at the RFI from TV's and Monitors. Again buy LED bulbs that don't cause RFI.
So will your;
Cell phone charger.
Cell phone.
Washer.
Dryer.
Almost any appliances that utilize alternating currents.
ALSO; some/all of these devices may cause direct interference to reception from the height of your OTA antenna.
Ever listen to your radios inside your home loudly?
Nooooo...
Well, have any objects "buzzed", or "hummed" when a certain note sounded? That's due to clashing of frequencies. That is harmonic distortion, or, harmonics.
Don't be fooled, snd thinking it's resonance. Resonance wil be much more subtle, anz could actually make reception just a wee bit better.
I still collect different TV antennas from AMAZON. The one flashlight that's best is called VICTAGEN. 6 of them light up the entire living room and last almost 14 hours with one charge. No reception problems. I place 4 in front my 75 inch NANO TV. Simply pointing straight up, they create a torch effect illuminating the ceiling above the big screen. Of course AMAZON is sold out- aren't they always?
I have this exact problem - and reached the same conclusion (an LED Light Bulb). In my case the problem arises when darkness falls (so obviously a Security Light of some sort). Problem is, it isn't mine, but coming from somewhere nearby. I need some way to track the interference to it's source. Looking out the window when it happens hasn't worked (lots of trees around here block
my view). Would like suggestions from others.
You're too funny. Listen, LED lightbulbs definitely can cause interference, but there are some LED lightbulbs now that don't affect the reception. I know because I have tried it. They are also getting made differently since this video. Secondly, some FLORESCENT fixtures and lightbulbs cause it too. I found out once that my kitchen florescent fixture over my sink was causing my interference, so I changed the fixture completely, and used 2 LED lightbulbs that didn't affect the interference. Also, EVEN after I had turned the florescent light off, I was still getting interference, so after I changed the light fixture, the problem was GONE. Sometimes there is current running through the florescent fixture even though the light is turned off, and that was also causing my problems. So it can also come from the type of fixture when the wires are connected to it. Also, by the way, I do NOT use a "leaf" antenna, or that other junk piece of antenna you were showing. I use a Winegard 7694P in my attic, and down next to my 2nd floor window, I have a DB4e, and I receive most and sometimes all my channels. Right now, the channels are coming in and going out all the time, and my friend Bill who works at Lowes, thinks it's the weather. He's having the same problem. It. could be the summer causing problems. But it's NOT my antennas, and not my preamps and boosters... I did get my LTE filters and I have yet to try them. I just got them and right now, we are having a heat wave.... So I want to wait until it's a wee cooler right now...
Been watching Your Videos....I am a Radio and TV nut...I grew up with Antenna TV...The First DX I did was with TV...Got as far as Chicago on TV.. from California...I wish I could do that again?...where I live I get six stations on a Antenna....
I have an outdoor antenna an have a solid clear picture except for about 20 minutes 3 times a day when it has heavy pixelation and frozen pixelated screens with no sound. It occurs sometime between 7:35 AM to 8:20 AM, between 12:00 PM and 12:45 Pm and again somewhere between 5 PM and 6:30 PM 7 days a week. Nothing in my house is on that time cycle. There are no nearby businesses. The only thing I can think of would be an over powered Ham radio. My neighbor would be tapped off the same power transformer, but I would not think their electrical interference would effectively my reception.
Any ideas appreciated. I have searched the web for this issue without results.
I did an audit of my RF noise for AM band. I turned off all my power strips. and tuned to a fringe AM station. The hardest offender to find was a USB charging line not on a strip. Came with the Amazon Kindle. The PC monitor, dimmable LEDs not as noisy as regular. LED noise worse in daylight. the inductive cook top kills shortwave. Lamps with large shades I've inserted a Y-socket insert offering two sockets. An noisy item was a touch an glow lamp for incandescent. LED's do affect weak TV, turn on a lamp and the picture drops audio or picture for a moment. I put one noisy bulb in and a quiet one in for easy adjustment. My poor man's solution to a 3 way bulb using one-way lights. I now turn off my TV and the power strip both when it is off. If my Samsung HD is spying on me, they will have to use their own power, not mine. My AM station is still in the middle of a estate dispute. When the wind blows and a lose cable arcs on the transmitter. For years I blamed the welders on the next block. But the wind also blows on days they are closed. C'mon Probate judge. It's been since December. Rollye James left West Chester PA for Globe Ariz about 10 years ago. She doesn't mind night time power failures. It is her chance to do AM DXing like the old days, without the modern gadgets RF clutter.
Would be great to see an episode if there is a possible filter to help this problem, that I also encountered with my landscape LED lights.
“[Nero] Wolfe was in his office looking at television, which gives him a lot of pleasure. I have seen him turn it on as many as eight times in one evening, glare at it from one to three minutes, turn it off, and go back to his book.”
- _The Golden Spiders_ (1953) written by Rex Stout (a tip of the hat for the site nerowolfe.org for helping this old Wolfe fan find that quote again!).
Boy, I’ve got a few things to say about this video. What a turn-off!
I’m no Nero Wolfe, who amongst avoiding doing other things, maintains a an entire floor of orchids in his brownstone home, but I _do_ maintain plants in an aquarium near my TV. I’ve been growing plants with LED daylight bulbs with a certain amount of success over the last ten years. One might say those bulbs have indirectly given me much entertainment and pleasure. Would you, oh so clever TH-cam reviewer, like to make fun of my choice of bulb after five minutes of “do ya want me to talk and talk and talk and make you wait for the punchline?!” Don’t worry, I’ve already unsubscribed! It’s almost like a Nero Wolfe night of TV!
And I’ll figure out another way to record that _one channel with that one weekly program_ I want!
Poor cabling and bad connectors make the problem worse too. Rg6, Good quality ends(if you make your own cable), and 0-3000hz (khz?) splitters reduce a number of problems.
Former Dtv installer.
Interesting. I live in an apartment, have my old RCA antenna set up out on my patio. Used it for years, no issues until recently. Connected to bedroom TV and at night I begin to lose reception on a few of my stations. No LED's in my apartment at night but LED security lights. Hmmm. However, living room tv, same type of antenna connected to a pole outside window and actually closer to LED security lights...no problem. There is an AC unit within 10 feet of the patio antenna. I'm wondering if that isn't the issue (wind from the unit) and especially since I just recently started noticing the issue. Guess I'll have to sleep on the couch in living room until winter! LOL
I bought expensive Sylvania LED floods for outside my garage, would lose 2 of my channels when they were on, bought off brand LED floods that were 1/2 the price- no problems with channels.... go figure.
Some brands are worse than other. Some don’t cause interference at all. Philips LEDs don’t put out much of any interfere. I noticed the GE LEDs are the worst. Most Philips bulbs don’t seem to make any interference. I’ve demonstrated this... I have a shortwave radio and some things interfere and others don’t. The worst offenders are not light bulbs, they are dish machines and washing machines! Computers are very high on the list. My LEDs do not interfere with my radio at all. CFL bulbs are REALLY bad about interference!
LED bulbs are required to comply with Part 15 of the FCC rules as an unintentional radiator. This is a legal requirement for these bulbs to be sold in the USA. However, due to lax or non-existent enforcement of these regulations by the dimbulbs in Washington, it is very easy to purchase LED bulbs that do not meet these requirements. These LED bulbs that do not meet FCC regulations will likely also not be UL listed, which means that they could be a fire or electrocution hazard. Big box stores will usually not sell LED bulbs that do not meet UL and FCC requirements due to the liability, but online sellers are typically less cautious about selling unsafe junk. If an LED bulb meets Part 15 of the FCC rules it will say so and/or have the FCC logo on it. It will likely also be UL listed and have the UL logo along with a file number that begins with E, and you can look this file number up on the UL website to find out if it's valid and who the actual manufacturer is.
LED interference with TV signal...I will recommended to return to school and learn about frequency distribution. I will be more concert with FLCs as the electronics ballast may operate in more the 10 KHz, that still way below TV signal. If the antenna is couple feet from the interference source you will have direct coupling, Sometime the interference propagate from faulty appliance AC line. The flat black antenna have pretty dissent performance if use within RF amplifier. This antenna is good if you live in city where the transmitter is petty close and not much obstructing your line of site.. This antennas use to be made with clear plastic and you could see metalized strip of conductor. The manufacture switch to black plastics so no body copy their design - it is very simple to copy - pretty difficult to design. This is very clever design to make wide band antenna. This technics is use in microwave circuits. I have similar flat antenna in my apartment building in Brooklyn NY, Iit is 11 mile from Empire State Buildings, and I am getting around 60 channels in apartment on 5th floor where the TV signal go thru the building. The only problem I have is channel 11 & 13. I can say it not so bed antenna at all.
That bulb you held at the end was brighter than CNN.
4:38 "I invested a lot of money in these LED bulbs..." Maybe he should have invested in some better quality LED bulbs.
Channel Master is bringing out their huge CM-3671 antenna probably due to the repacks. I don’t have interference issues as I use the CM-4228 HD outdoors and Quad Shield Coax.
By F.C.C. rules, all high-power radio and television stations reduce their transmitter power at sunset and return to high power at sunrise.
If you are already at the ragged edge of receiving a channel during the day, then you will most likely lose it at night. The channel will probably come back the next day.
The "noisy" L.E.D. lightbulb will make the problem worse with locally generated noise in close proximity to the T.V.
It is like trying to listen to someone whisper in a noisy room, while a person yells in your ear.
It is worth a try to follow AntennaManPA's advice to see if it will reduce the noise level at the T.V.
Shows an antenna and says, "this is junk". Me: Yeah, I just got rid of that one. Shows next antenna, "this is also junk". Me. Shoot, I just replaced the first with the second.
Fortunately, I now know better and when the BPD unit breaks, I'll buy one of the Clear Stream or Channel Master models recommended by Antenna Man.