Too many ignorant people saying this is disgusting - barbaric, the equal temperament is totally artificial, this guy is proving the quality of other more natural temperaments, like pythagorean or temperaments from middle east. Now, if you're gonna say this sounds disgusting, you could at least say why. It's probably because you've listen to equal tempered music your whole entire life, and nothing else. Think at least once before you post that kind of comments.
The equal temperament is not totally artificial, it is still based on pure intervals (even if there are no truly pure intervals left) and it has historically evolved from a number of systems. I agree with the rest of the comment. On a side note, it surprises me that this kind of music does not sound 'wrong' or anything to me even though I have listened to equal tempered music my entire life.
Vincy if really have got perfect pitch, you would notice the impure intervals, mainly the major thirds. Stop hiding your ignorance behind inexistent qualities of yours. You're just used to equal temperament
The reason that I design microtonal guitar is to keep the sound and timbre of the conventional classical guitar. Fretless guitar is a new instrument with a beautiful timbre between ud and guitar. In addition, there is a sustain problem in fretless guitar when you play chords.
You sir are a genius. Thanks for working this out. I have been studying just tuning and micro-tonal systems and it's great to see you have worked out the guitar design I have been dreaming about.
in a messy web landscape of assorted guitar crazyness , i think your musicality, research, culture, arrangements ,and overall technique are really outstanding. It was a pleasure listening to your video, going for the next. thankyou, and all the best , Ciao.
A fine player here presents an excellent and varied coverage of microtonal music for guitar. He knows what he is talking about and his presentation is entirely unpretentious and to the point, with all the technical information you could want.
i will say just hearing microtonal notes by themselves bother my ears, being so used to half-steps being the smallest interval, but it sounds incredible once you start using them in a piece! this guitar's a neat piece, great work!
ve işte tam olarak da hepimizin yapması gerekeni yapmışsın. taklit etmeden; kendi müziğimizi, kendimizden olanı modernleştirerek adeta yeniden ortaya çıkarmışsın. videonu çok daha önceden dinlemiştim; ama yorum yapmak şimdiye nasip oldu. tebrik ederim, gururlandırdın.
Bravo. As a fellow musician and instrumentmaker (mostly medieval harps) and also someone interested in tunings, I congratulate you on your instrument and your playing. Teşekkür ederim. cheers from sunny Vienna.
I noticed when I was in Turkey and Bahrain that the music on the radio was often in keys that I just couldn't play on my regular guitars. Yes, I tried dorian and phrygian modes, which helped get closer to some of the more "pop"-oriented music, but I still couldn't figure out what was going on. While in Marmaris, Turkey, I watched a young man play American rock music on an old Ibanez (he did quite well) and then switch to another instrument for music from his homeland. That instrument was, according to the young man, called a Tar (please forgive my spelling). He said that he wanted to make enough money to buy a fretless guitar so he could play all of his music on one instrument, as it was hard to switch between a guitar and a Tar. After that, I realized I simply wasn't going to be able to play such music on any instrument I owned. Even so, I saw a man in Bahrain playing local music on what appeared to be a regular guitar. According to him, his fretboard was so heavily scalloped that he was able to get the right microtones with slight variations in finger pressure when fretting. I'm certain I'll never be accurate enough to use such a technique. Maybe your design is worth looking into. Maybe not. I'm not sure I want to learn the specific positions for each fret for key changes. It's hard enough just to learn how to play in non-standard tunings. I supposed it comes down to whether or not I really want to try playing music from other parts of the world and other cultures, or if I'm satisfied just listening to it.
Thanks for your comment. Scallopped fretboards are played for Vietnamese music as well. Check this video for intro to microtonal guitar: th-cam.com/video/hE-sehgOrTY/w-d-xo.html
You are amazing my friend. I have tied to approximate some of this music but you have really found a way to realize your vision. You are really helping to push the boundaries of westernized ears more than you think. Great stuff and I hope you continue.
I couldn't agree more as one of these westerners. While I love and play Western classical music (as a violinist), it is the discovery of videos like this that have made me at least begin to understand just how brilliant and creative the traditional musical forms, use of unique timbres, and technical virtuosity found in Ottoman, Persian, and Hindustani classical music all are. The adaptation of the classical guitar for non-European microtonal music is equally brilliant. Keep on playing for western audiences! Music is a beautiful thing that breaks down barriers to cross-cultural understanding - and in this time of right-wing nationalism, people of all nations need to see what unites them.
What trips me out is how middle eastern musicians first came to decide that the microtones were the musical vibes that they were aesthetically drawn to, that they really liked the vibes of them in the context of their music. So cool.
this instrument can be one of the bridges between past and future, folk music and new generation in Turkey. Gurur duydum hocam, ülkemizi ve okulumuzu böyle güzel bir şekilde temsil ettiğiniz için teşekkürler.
Ever since I tried sitar and guzheng I thought about what it would be like to have a guitar with moveable frets; now I know. Thank you for sharing this! Forget the people who dislike it, your guitar is wonderful.
that sounds great, I thought the microtones always sounded like a horror movie, but this its really good, you played a scale very nice, I did not know that sounded so good!
great idea! And it really works because you hear it almost as if it was a non fretted instrument. You can't jut bend the string a little because that can interfere witht the vibration of the other strings, and with bending, it's not possible to emulate the kind of phrasing the he uses in the music. Congratulations, your idea is genious. A true advancement in ths instrument. Guys like John Mclaughlin on Shawn Lane would have played the heck out of this.
It soothes my soul to hear the feelings of a culture separate from my own- though I am western, I understand all humans are bonded through emotion and this expression outside the realm of what I'm accustomed to brings perspective and understanding that I've not found anywhere within my culture. Thank you
this is a fantastic innovation. i switched from the guitar to oud in order to access the maqamaat (and i've only used the guitar for texture since then) - but if I had this... access to harmonising with the maqam? incredible possibilities.
The moment I heard your microtonal music it sounded beautiful to me. This is like what I sing when I make up my own melodies, and what I have failed before now to actually write, let alone get others to play. When comparing my sung melodies to a frequency generator, I discovered that I have been singing with microtones this whole time. Now I have a way to demonstrate to my band how to accompany me.
By far the best microtonal guitar (and player) I have ever seen or heard. Both the concept of playing Makamler and the actual praxis of making the guitar sing are great. I assume that Tolga plays saz too and it's admirable how he can take the beautiful music of Aşık Veysel Şatıroğlu and make it sound as sophisticated as it is on his (totally by the way, 8 string!) guitar. Bravo, Tolga!
There is a similar instrument from 1852 on display in Cité de la Musique, Paris. It is the item E.1043 in the museum catalog, they have pictures on their site.
I love the potential your system has, not just for microtonal alternate musik theories, but also for our usual western music theory. Intonations would be unbelievably better, also I love the kind of timbre Maqam music offers, it's really something different than usual western music I'm used to and I really enjoy to think about new possibilities in music theory because thats a huge passion of mine :) I myself only play electrical guitar and I know of electrical guitars with similar capabilities but sadly I'm unable to afford them. I hope the future brings me closer to music theories of all kinds :D And you're an absolutely fantastical guitarist by the way
tebrik ederim, çok başarılı ve yaratıcı birşey yapıyorsun, hem yeni bir saz üretmişsin hem de dünyanın ihtiyacı olan türk müziğini dünyaya tanıtıyorsun başarılarının devamını dilerim
That thing is beautiful man, great work. Obviously way too complicated for the average guitar player, but you're not average, are you? I saw the expression in your face when you had to explain that a microtone is defined as "less than a half tone", I know it bothers you that that definition is relative to western standards. It bothered me to hear that too, I know you've got the knowledge and the nads to break out of that relativity. You're on your own level man, don't feel obligated to stay in the box when you're already so out of it. Beautiful stuff man, your dedication and creativity have led to the creation of an instrument that can create beautiful expressions in the hands of a skilled player. Keep up the hard work, love your stuff man
I think it is an excellent invention. I am currently writing dilpoma thesis on temperament solutions and I wanted to dedicate one paragraph to it, but it´s worth so much more than that...
I must admit, I wasn't convinced when you were talking about your instrument but when you started playing it sounded wonderful, sort of a fusion guitar. Good luck, Anthony
+Greg Moberg That's a Anatolian necked lute 'Bağlama' technique, adapted to the classical guitar. My PhD was entitled "The Adaptation of Bağlama Techniques into Classical Guitar Performance." It was published by VDM Publications in English.
My friend, this must be, without a doubt, the most beautiful music, to me, that I've ever heard in my life. My grand-grandparents were from the Lebanon (both from my father's and mather's family trees), and really, never ever before have I experienced such connection with my ancestors' homeland. Now, I'm definitely sure that I'll be back to 'my' land, so that my grand-grandparents can go visit their country through me. Thank you SO MUCH, I've subscribed to your channel, waiting for more music!
Demek ki neymiş 8 notaya müziğimiz sığdırılamıyormuş. 9:25-9:45 arası beyni yetebilenlere gayet güzel bir şekilde açıklamış. Bunların notasal karşılığı olmadığı da apaçık ortada. Arap makamında, Türk makamında daha fazla nota var, batısal sınıflama yetmiyor denildiğinde kıs kıs gülen alaya alan cahil müsvettelerine kapak olmuştur, hem de "ingilizce" olarak hani cahiliz ingilizce de bilmeyiz bir boktan anlamayız ya o hesap. Müzikten bi haber oldukları gibi tarihten de bi haber olanlara hepi topu 150 yıldır batıdan doğan güneşin illa ki tarihte her zaman olduğu gibi "doğudan doğduğunu ve doğucağını" göstermek için harika bir icat ve video olmuş kutlarım. Bu çalışma için, "ee fretless gitar yapmış işte ne olacak ki zaten vardı" diyen kulaksız andavalları da ayrıca kutluyorum. Conguratulations Mr. Tolga Çoğulu Hope We will see much more videos at your channel. Great playing !
This is one of the best videos I've seen on TH-cam. You're inventive, skillful, interesting and informative. Oh, and the video is in HD! What more could you ask for?
By the way, turkish music sounds much less dissonant to the western ear, than the arabic music. The latter has harsher pure quarter-tones (150, 350 cent and so) which indeed sound quite odd.
boyet cruz - The point wasn't that it includes microtones, the point is that though microtone scales sound weird to a Western ear in general, we still have the Locrian mode, which is awful-sounding in every way.
***** It's merely a tritone-dominant scale, that has it's uses. Just (septimal) tritone isn't that dissonant as an ET tritone, it's about 580 cents, if I remember correctly.
Gggleplus Suxx - No, it is awful. I'm not approaching this from like, "Oh, it's just the major scale as player with the 7th as a tonal center," or in any technical way. I'm approaching this as nobody uses the Locrian mode, and nobody uses the Locrian mode because it sounds awful and has no resolution or inherently melodic content. It sounds bad and it's not very useful, unless you want to play a stupid guitar solo over a diminished chord for five minutes.
@Astrochronic 12 tone equal tempered (reglur music) music is generated by products of frequencies by 2^(1/12). It is the end result of a century or so of mean tone tunings, which were approximations of scales and chords usin small number ratios like 3/2, 4/3, 8/5, and so on. We're just so used to 12 tone equal temperament that we don't understand the meanin of smaller or different intervals.
Every guitarist should watch this, it will help them understand the compromise of the modern guitar fretboard which is only an attempt to make equal temperament. This can help guitarists tune better to specific music. Thanks for the video, your instrument sounds wonderful, I hope it takes off for you.
Just got the CD, absolutely beautiful work, innovative, and very well played. So much microtonal music and music that is labeled as "fusion" is unlistenable so I really salute you for making such an enjoyable and incredible album that is also intellectually and theoretically fascinating. I look forward to hearing much more and I hope that the microtonal duo makes a recording available sometime soon (if you have not already, but I can't find it! :) ). Thanks!
Not so long ago I've invented for me micro-сhromatic and already stat to think, that realizing it on fret guitar would be very difficult. Remarkable invention!
This is the best thing I've heard since Gidon Kremer playing Bach. o.O I'm in the process of buying the album from iTunes. Can't wait to listen to it all.
wow...i'm breathless...spechless..i've never heard a beautiful music like yours...you're really a master!!! i would like to play guitar like you! bye from italy!!
Great job..Congratulations to you Bay Tolgahan. Ps- To those addressing the fretless guitar issue...this innovator entrepreneur has played around with a few of them and thus the idea for this new approach to the instrument.
That's a really interesting and awesome design. Gets a lot of seldom heard, but fascinating tones and scales. Great playing too, those were some magnificent pieces, very representative of middle eastern music.
1993 Arhavi/Artvin'de Cengiz Kurtoğlu Kültür ve Turizim derneğinde konser tarzı resital geçmişti..ve onun gitaristi Kenan Özer,Elektro Gitar 'ile Uşşak Taksim geçti..yanlış hatırlamıyorsan 2'nci veya 3'üncü perdenin ortasına iğne gibi birşey koymuştu... Klasik gitarda ben böyle birşey ilk defa görüyorum gerçekten tebrik ederim helal olsun tam bir Müzik adamısınız...başarılar hocam
I enjoyed this demonstration very much and went your website and bought your CD, cant wait to enjoy it! Great work. Let me know if you are ever going on an Australian tour.
One of the best arrangements on a single guitar for Fidayda I have ever heard. Well done man, amazing instrument design too. Pretty useful to the eastern music: Turkish, Persian, Arabic, Indian, Chinese, Japanese; pretty useless to the western music - hence the interesting and understandable comments. I see this guitar as "Kanun on frets" I hope you sell a lot.
I was thinking about a system of movable frets like this, but your videos are the first examples I have seen of such a thing in action, and this is the one that gives up a sufficiently close view to see how the implementation is done. I was thinking of a similar system but with thumb screws on the side away from the strings to keep the frets from slipping while in use while allowing them to be moved in between playing, but since what you show here works and obviously doesn't put too much stress on the fingerboard rails (which I had feared), it is a lot simpler (and can extend into the region overlapping with the guitar's resonating body, where you wouldn't be able to reach a thumb screw).
Hi. I play piano mostly, and this is fascinating. I tried listening to microtonal contemporary classical music, but it was just too weird or complex - maybe my ear is not good enough for that? But the introduction of two microtones like in some songs here is amazing. And when you use that within a harmonic context, it sounds so amazing, so deep, so refreshing. Thank you!
Too many ignorant people saying this is disgusting - barbaric, the equal temperament is totally artificial, this guy is proving the quality of other more natural temperaments, like pythagorean or temperaments from middle east. Now, if you're gonna say this sounds disgusting, you could at least say why. It's probably because you've listen to equal tempered music your whole entire life, and nothing else. Think at least once before you post that kind of comments.
+Bryan Yep its an acquired taste dude, not many people can truly understand
+Zach Kristufek I know bud. I am Turkish as well
+Bryan Yep I would really like to appreciate this kind of music, but unfortunately i got perfect pitch... so I can't :P
The equal temperament is not totally artificial, it is still based on pure intervals (even if there are no truly pure intervals left) and it has historically evolved from a number of systems. I agree with the rest of the comment.
On a side note, it surprises me that this kind of music does not sound 'wrong' or anything to me even though I have listened to equal tempered music my entire life.
Vincy if really have got perfect pitch, you would notice the impure intervals, mainly the major thirds. Stop hiding your ignorance behind inexistent qualities of yours. You're just used to equal temperament
The reason that I design microtonal guitar is to keep the sound and timbre of the conventional classical guitar. Fretless guitar is a new instrument with a beautiful timbre between ud and guitar. In addition, there is a sustain problem in fretless guitar when you play chords.
You sir are a genius. Thanks for working this out. I have been studying just tuning and micro-tonal systems and it's great to see you have worked out the guitar design I have been dreaming about.
in a messy web landscape of assorted guitar crazyness , i think your musicality, research, culture, arrangements ,and overall technique are really outstanding. It was a pleasure listening to your video, going for the next. thankyou, and all the best ,
Ciao.
A fine player here presents an excellent and varied coverage of microtonal music for guitar. He knows what he is talking about and his presentation is entirely unpretentious and to the point, with all the technical information you could want.
i will say just hearing microtonal notes by themselves bother my ears, being so used to half-steps being the smallest interval, but it sounds incredible once you start using them in a piece! this guitar's a neat piece, great work!
Thanks!
ve işte tam olarak da hepimizin yapması gerekeni yapmışsın. taklit etmeden; kendi müziğimizi, kendimizden olanı modernleştirerek adeta yeniden ortaya çıkarmışsın. videonu çok daha önceden dinlemiştim; ama yorum yapmak şimdiye nasip oldu. tebrik ederim, gururlandırdın.
This changes everything
No it doesn't.
Stinky McGoober It does when you want to play traditional Turkish music.
It gets guitar from great instrument to legend with 100% tonal accuracy
Bravo. As a fellow musician and instrumentmaker (mostly medieval harps) and also someone interested in tunings, I congratulate you on your instrument and your playing. Teşekkür ederim.
cheers from sunny Vienna.
I noticed when I was in Turkey and Bahrain that the music on the radio was often in keys that I just couldn't play on my regular guitars. Yes, I tried dorian and phrygian modes, which helped get closer to some of the more "pop"-oriented music, but I still couldn't figure out what was going on.
While in Marmaris, Turkey, I watched a young man play American rock music on an old Ibanez (he did quite well) and then switch to another instrument for music from his homeland. That instrument was, according to the young man, called a Tar (please forgive my spelling). He said that he wanted to make enough money to buy a fretless guitar so he could play all of his music on one instrument, as it was hard to switch between a guitar and a Tar.
After that, I realized I simply wasn't going to be able to play such music on any instrument I owned. Even so, I saw a man in Bahrain playing local music on what appeared to be a regular guitar. According to him, his fretboard was so heavily scalloped that he was able to get the right microtones with slight variations in finger pressure when fretting. I'm certain I'll never be accurate enough to use such a technique.
Maybe your design is worth looking into. Maybe not. I'm not sure I want to learn the specific positions for each fret for key changes. It's hard enough just to learn how to play in non-standard tunings. I supposed it comes down to whether or not I really want to try playing music from other parts of the world and other cultures, or if I'm satisfied just listening to it.
Thanks for your comment. Scallopped fretboards are played for Vietnamese music as well. Check this video for intro to microtonal guitar: th-cam.com/video/hE-sehgOrTY/w-d-xo.html
You are amazing my friend. I have tied to approximate some of this music but you have really found a way to realize your vision. You are really helping to push the boundaries of westernized ears more than you think. Great stuff and I hope you continue.
I couldn't agree more as one of these westerners. While I love and play Western classical music (as a violinist), it is the discovery of videos like this that have made me at least begin to understand just how brilliant and creative the traditional musical forms, use of unique timbres, and technical virtuosity found in Ottoman, Persian, and Hindustani classical music all are. The adaptation of the classical guitar for non-European microtonal music is equally brilliant. Keep on playing for western audiences! Music is a beautiful thing that breaks down barriers to cross-cultural understanding - and in this time of right-wing nationalism, people of all nations need to see what unites them.
@Matthew @clearlight808 Thank you my friends for your comments. Cheers from Bristol.
What trips me out is how middle eastern musicians first came to decide that the microtones were the musical vibes that they were aesthetically drawn to, that they really liked the vibes of them in the context of their music. So cool.
Shit.... 8 strings plus microtonal...? Super Genius. Salute...!!!
bu adam çıkana kadar Andy Mckee yi bi bok sanardım
Tebrikler olsun benim Türk dostum Tolgahan!
I am proud of you very much indeed!
4:35. Those microtonal notes sound beautiful. They have a great weeping sound.
+Joseph Leigh Also the lyrics are weeping. "my faithful darling is black earth."
a different scale like that can transport me to a different place and time. Excellent playing too.
Congratulations, This guitar is a masterwork! It will surely open a new door of perception to all the musicians and also to the audiience!
this instrument can be one of the bridges between past and future, folk music and new generation in Turkey.
Gurur duydum hocam, ülkemizi ve okulumuzu böyle güzel bir şekilde temsil ettiğiniz için teşekkürler.
I love what you're doing so much Tolgahan. Bless you.
Thank you!
Tolgahan kardesim abartisiz son yillarda en etkilendigim muzikal yenilik. Tebrikler. Fidayda'ya da bayildim bu arada.
7:38
Meshuggah-Demiurge
Does it djent?
feels nice when meshuggah, aphex twin and microtonal adjustable guitars meet together
Isaac Alves cool mix :)
hocam meshuggah hakkında ne düşünürsünüz? benim şahsen acayip hayranı olduğum bir gruptur.
lmao😂😂😂🤣🤣
Ever since I tried sitar and guzheng I thought about what it would be like to have a guitar with moveable frets; now I know. Thank you for sharing this! Forget the people who dislike it, your guitar is wonderful.
this man is a genius.
What's amazing is that you've found a way to harmonize makams and it sounds very natural.
that sounds great, I thought the microtones always sounded like a horror movie, but this its really good, you played a scale very nice, I did not know that sounded so good!
great idea! And it really works because you hear it almost as if it was a non fretted instrument. You can't jut bend the string a little because that can interfere witht the vibration of the other strings, and with bending, it's not possible to emulate the kind of phrasing the he uses in the music.
Congratulations, your idea is genious. A true advancement in ths instrument. Guys like John Mclaughlin on Shawn Lane would have played the heck out of this.
It soothes my soul to hear the feelings of a culture separate from my own- though I am western, I understand all humans are bonded through emotion and this expression outside the realm of what I'm accustomed to brings perspective and understanding that I've not found anywhere within my culture. Thank you
Thanks a lot!
this is a fantastic innovation. i switched from the guitar to oud in order to access the maqamaat (and i've only used the guitar for texture since then) - but if I had this... access to harmonising with the maqam? incredible possibilities.
The moment I heard your microtonal music it sounded beautiful to me. This is like what I sing when I make up my own melodies, and what I have failed before now to actually write, let alone get others to play. When comparing my sung melodies to a frequency generator, I discovered that I have been singing with microtones this whole time. Now I have a way to demonstrate to my band how to accompany me.
Glad to hear that!
Bu sesi gitarda duymak içimi ısıttı adeta.Melodiler resmen dile gelmiş. Gerçekten başrılı bir iş.
Brilliant playing, brilliant idea! Will check your website for sure.
By far the best microtonal guitar (and player) I have ever seen or heard. Both the concept of playing Makamler and the actual praxis of making the guitar sing are great. I assume that Tolga plays saz too and it's admirable how he can take the beautiful music of Aşık Veysel Şatıroğlu and make it sound as sophisticated as it is on his (totally by the way, 8 string!) guitar.
Bravo, Tolga!
really good video demonstration. the colors of micro tonal possibilities is awesome, so called welltempered tuning has a lot of limits ...indeed!
Tebrik ediyorum, böyle güzel işlerin Türkiye'de yapıldığını görmek müthiş ve umut verici...
7:36 sounds like it could be easily transformed to a really sick Iron Maiden transition solo
There is a similar instrument from 1852 on display in Cité de la Musique, Paris. It is the item E.1043 in the museum catalog, they have pictures on their site.
I love the potential your system has, not just for microtonal alternate musik theories, but also for our usual western music theory. Intonations would be unbelievably better, also I love the kind of timbre Maqam music offers, it's really something different than usual western music I'm used to and I really enjoy to think about new possibilities in music theory because thats a huge passion of mine :) I myself only play electrical guitar and I know of electrical guitars with similar capabilities but sadly I'm unable to afford them. I hope the future brings me closer to music theories of all kinds :D And you're an absolutely fantastical guitarist by the way
+PhunkDumpOfficial Thank you very much
Oh.. by the by.. you are a GREAt player..
and the design you have come up
for moveable frets is really ingenious!!
You are absolutely amazing... Thanks for sharing this interesting video.
I like to investigate.. :) Glad you liked it.
Fantastic. The slight microtonal variation add an amazing colour.
You are a genius, has anyone ever told you that?
tebrik ederim, çok başarılı ve yaratıcı birşey yapıyorsun, hem yeni bir saz üretmişsin hem de dünyanın ihtiyacı olan türk müziğini dünyaya tanıtıyorsun
başarılarının devamını dilerim
That thing is beautiful man, great work. Obviously way too complicated for the average guitar player, but you're not average, are you?
I saw the expression in your face when you had to explain that a microtone is defined as "less than a half tone", I know it bothers you that that definition is relative to western standards. It bothered me to hear that too, I know you've got the knowledge and the nads to break out of that relativity. You're on your own level man, don't feel obligated to stay in the box when you're already so out of it.
Beautiful stuff man, your dedication and creativity have led to the creation of an instrument that can create beautiful expressions in the hands of a skilled player. Keep up the hard work, love your stuff man
Türkiye'de böyle adamlar olduğunu görmek ne güzel. Ayrıca Amerika'daki yarışmada birinci olmuş. Tebrikler...
Tanitimin ingilizce olmasi fazlaca başarili. Yapilan iş zaten harika. Yolun acik olsun üstad
Ufuk Bayrak Teşekkürler, sevgiler.
I think it is an excellent invention. I am currently writing dilpoma thesis on temperament solutions and I wanted to dedicate one paragraph to it, but it´s worth so much more than that...
I must admit, I wasn't convinced when you were talking about your instrument but when you started playing it sounded wonderful, sort of a fusion guitar. Good luck, Anthony
Inanilmaz bir calisma, dahice. Ne kadar ugrasildigini hayal bile edemiyorum. Guzel calismalara devam dostum
The technique you used around the 8:27 mark blew my mind. What was that?
+Greg Moberg That's a Anatolian necked lute 'Bağlama' technique, adapted to the classical guitar. My PhD was entitled "The Adaptation of Bağlama Techniques into Classical Guitar Performance." It was published by VDM Publications in English.
I think i've seen that in flamenco style playing been called inverted or upwards fan, it's a lot harder to get than the standard downwards fan
My friend, this must be, without a doubt, the most beautiful music, to me, that I've ever heard in my life. My grand-grandparents were from the Lebanon (both from my father's and mather's family trees), and really, never ever before have I experienced such connection with my ancestors' homeland. Now, I'm definitely sure that I'll be back to 'my' land, so that my grand-grandparents can go visit their country through me.
Thank you SO MUCH, I've subscribed to your channel, waiting for more music!
This is so fucking amazing.
You're a genius
Thanks a lot: th-cam.com/video/G58VjjxF5XE/w-d-xo.html
Çok zekice bir icat. Gitarın Türk musikisinde rahatça kullanılmasını sağlayacak bir buluş. Müthiş çalıyorsunuz. Tebrikler.
Awesome, bro. Not sure why fights are breaking out in the comments section.
Logan Wilbur Thanks! Fights are everywhere in today's world 😀
Tek kelimeyle harika bir gitar olmuş! Bravo Üstad!
Demek ki neymiş 8 notaya müziğimiz sığdırılamıyormuş. 9:25-9:45 arası beyni yetebilenlere gayet güzel bir şekilde açıklamış. Bunların notasal karşılığı olmadığı da apaçık ortada. Arap makamında, Türk makamında daha fazla nota var, batısal sınıflama yetmiyor denildiğinde kıs kıs gülen alaya alan cahil müsvettelerine kapak olmuştur, hem de "ingilizce" olarak hani cahiliz ingilizce de bilmeyiz bir boktan anlamayız ya o hesap. Müzikten bi haber oldukları gibi tarihten de bi haber olanlara hepi topu 150 yıldır batıdan doğan güneşin illa ki tarihte her zaman olduğu gibi "doğudan doğduğunu ve doğucağını" göstermek için harika bir icat ve video olmuş kutlarım. Bu çalışma için, "ee fretless gitar yapmış işte ne olacak ki zaten vardı" diyen kulaksız andavalları da ayrıca kutluyorum. Conguratulations Mr. Tolga Çoğulu Hope We will see much more videos at your channel. Great playing !
Really cool stuff. Microtonal music and non equal temperaments deserve more publicity !
how the fudge do you write this down?
Great video and musicianship. Thank you very much for taking the time to make this and put it online.
This is one of the best videos I've seen on TH-cam. You're inventive, skillful, interesting and informative. Oh, and the video is in HD!
What more could you ask for?
Your playing is really beautiful! Sadly, the acoustics in the room are really terrible.
Ingenious design and you deserve praise for your accomplished playing. The microtones are mind and ear-bending. Do you have CDs of your playing?
By the way, turkish music sounds much less dissonant to the western ear, than the arabic music. The latter has harsher pure quarter-tones (150, 350 cent and so) which indeed sound quite odd.
Oh, they're not that bad.
We have the Locrian mode, after all.
***** Locrian doesn't have any microtones. It's just diminished but no microtones.
boyet cruz - The point wasn't that it includes microtones, the point is that though microtone scales sound weird to a Western ear in general, we still have the Locrian mode, which is awful-sounding in every way.
*****
It's merely a tritone-dominant scale, that has it's uses. Just (septimal) tritone isn't that dissonant as an ET tritone, it's about 580 cents, if I remember correctly.
Gggleplus Suxx - No, it is awful. I'm not approaching this from like, "Oh, it's just the major scale as player with the 7th as a tonal center," or in any technical way. I'm approaching this as nobody uses the Locrian mode, and nobody uses the Locrian mode because it sounds awful and has no resolution or inherently melodic content. It sounds bad and it's not very useful, unless you want to play a stupid guitar solo over a diminished chord for five minutes.
Tebrik ediyorum gerçekten harika umarım seni iyi yerlerde görebiliriz,başarılarının devamını diliyorum.
I am here to complain about one thing......... The echo in the room is horrible !!!.. Your voice is barely audible... I love the guitar though !!!...
+Saúl Espinoza Yes, you are right. the video quality should have been much better
Ha Ha don't worry I was just being a jerk... Seriously though, that is an impressive guitar... Plus, you're very good at playing it as well !!!...
@@microtonalguitar pretty sure this can easily be fixed with some cheap echo/bass traps in the corners of the room.
Araştıran geliştiren ve ortaya güzel bir sonuç koyan Tolga Bey i kutlarım.Harika bir çalışma..
Amazing!
@Astrochronic 12 tone equal tempered (reglur music) music is generated by products of frequencies by 2^(1/12). It is the end result of a century or so of mean tone tunings, which were approximations of scales and chords usin small number ratios like 3/2, 4/3, 8/5, and so on. We're just so used to 12 tone equal temperament that we don't understand the meanin of smaller or different intervals.
Sleep Drifter Sleep Drifter
samuelmassa I love it too!
Çok hos! As a person who does not understand much of guitars, I still find the sound of it very interesting and beautifull.
A m a z i n g!!!
Every guitarist should watch this, it will help them understand the compromise of the modern guitar fretboard which is only an attempt to make equal temperament. This can help guitarists tune better to specific music.
Thanks for the video, your instrument sounds wonderful, I hope it takes off for you.
türk olduğunu arkadaki prizlerden anladım
Ekin Işık ben adinin tolgahan çoğulu olduğundan anladım
sunum bilmiyoruz biz
i expected chaos with these microtones but this is just phenomenal. everything sounds nice and harmonic. very nice.
hayatım da böylesine sahit olmadım...
Just got the CD, absolutely beautiful work, innovative, and very well played. So much microtonal music and music that is labeled as "fusion" is unlistenable so I really salute you for making such an enjoyable and incredible album that is also intellectually and theoretically fascinating. I look forward to hearing much more and I hope that the microtonal duo makes a recording available sometime soon (if you have not already, but I can't find it! :) ). Thanks!
Ok, but you can play Enter Sandman?
That's sounds soo awesome, if they had more such guitars and quartertonal pianos in the past music nowdays would be so much richer.
Not so long ago I've invented for me micro-сhromatic and already stat to think, that realizing it on fret guitar would be very difficult. Remarkable invention!
This is the best thing I've heard since Gidon Kremer playing Bach. o.O
I'm in the process of buying the album from iTunes. Can't wait to listen to it all.
opens an entirely different and beautiful world of music for the guitar
Thank You ! ! !
wow...i'm breathless...spechless..i've never heard a beautiful music like yours...you're really a master!!! i would like to play guitar like you! bye from italy!!
Great job..Congratulations to you Bay Tolgahan.
Ps- To those addressing the fretless guitar issue...this innovator entrepreneur has played around with a few of them and thus the idea for this new approach to the instrument.
its hard to explain what these sounds evoke, but hauntingly beautiful...
Bravo arkadaş, çok büyük bir iş yapmışsınız, müziğimizin ilerlemesi adına büyük bir katkı
That's a really interesting and awesome design. Gets a lot of seldom heard, but fascinating tones and scales. Great playing too, those were some magnificent pieces, very representative of middle eastern music.
Beautiful sound! Greetings from Argentina 🇦🇷
If you want to order a microtonal guitar, please e-mail me: tolgahanus@yahoo.com.
1993 Arhavi/Artvin'de Cengiz Kurtoğlu Kültür ve Turizim derneğinde konser tarzı resital geçmişti..ve onun gitaristi Kenan Özer,Elektro Gitar 'ile Uşşak Taksim geçti..yanlış hatırlamıyorsan 2'nci veya 3'üncü perdenin ortasına iğne gibi birşey koymuştu...
Klasik gitarda ben böyle birşey ilk defa görüyorum gerçekten tebrik ederim helal olsun tam bir Müzik adamısınız...başarılar hocam
I WANT THIS GUITAR!IT'S BEEN MY DREAM!YOU JUST MADE ME VERY HAPPY!CONGRATULATIONS FOR YOUR PLAYING TOO!
The playing from 7:45 onwards just blew my mind to the ultraverse. That was incredible!
6:18 - 6:28 !!!!!!
Fantastic video fantastic playing fantastic instrument!
I love what you are doing with your microtonal guitar, and you are very skilled. ¡Congratulations!
I enjoyed this demonstration very much and went your website and bought your CD, cant wait to enjoy it! Great work. Let me know if you are ever going on an Australian tour.
One of the best arrangements on a single guitar for Fidayda I have ever heard. Well done man, amazing instrument design too. Pretty useful to the eastern music: Turkish, Persian, Arabic, Indian, Chinese, Japanese; pretty useless to the western music - hence the interesting and understandable comments. I see this guitar as "Kanun on frets" I hope you sell a lot.
I cant get over how amazing this sounds
I was thinking about a system of movable frets like this, but your videos are the first examples I have seen of such a thing in action, and this is the one that gives up a sufficiently close view to see how the implementation is done. I was thinking of a similar system but with thumb screws on the side away from the strings to keep the frets from slipping while in use while allowing them to be moved in between playing, but since what you show here works and obviously doesn't put too much stress on the fingerboard rails (which I had feared), it is a lot simpler (and can extend into the region overlapping with the guitar's resonating body, where you wouldn't be able to reach a thumb screw).
The sound is so... hybrid, in between the classic guitar and the eastern instruments, like saz. So very interesting!
Hi. I play piano mostly, and this is fascinating.
I tried listening to microtonal contemporary classical music, but it was just too weird or complex - maybe my ear is not good enough for that?
But the introduction of two microtones like in some songs here is amazing. And when you use that within a harmonic context, it sounds so amazing, so deep, so refreshing. Thank you!
A fabulous instrument, and wonderful playing - bravo! This should set the new standard for guitar making and playing.
Absolutely fantastic and wonderful playing. I bow to you genius.