Flip got a new respect from me! They was looking at him like bro code…ever heard of it?! 😂😂😂 Flip is a real one. Joe was speaking like a 22 year old man child on that one. Which surprised me.
Nah, sis.😂 This is fax, it really could have been the sisters or mom or even a cousins and they just forgot. I've seen it, maybe not in this exact scenario but it has happened.
It continues to sadden me deeply that this is how so many men continue to show up with the women they share time and space with--it’s so disheartening! Much love and respect to Flip for exhibiting emotional stability and availability. Keep doing your work sir!
What Joe is talking about ONLY works when the person not cheating cares more than the cheater. It's contingent on him saying "Okay so you gone leave?" Know full well they aren't. That shit doesn't work with the "If you don't give a damn I'on give af" folks. A person should definitely leave when they find something suspicious...especially if their partner isn't open to having an honest discussion about it. But, that partner should also take that L with no questions asked when they come home to an empty house and no explanation letter left.
Wrong! The point of asking “are you gonna leave” is for the person to see if this argument is as serious to them as they are making it. Because there are people that make mountains out of mole hills… because they love to be at odds with their partner. By asking “are you gonna leave” it allows them to assess their real stance on the issue. And the real stance, as he said, would be “I think you’re cheating”. And if that’s the case, then it’s time to have that talk… not a talk about some fuckin lipgloss. The hair strand is just the door opener to a bigger issue you probably already had. And if you don’t have a real issue… then what are we even talking about?
@farrellcityking1 The real stance is obviously implied. And like I said, that question of "Are you going to leave?" Is only asked as a way to gaslight someone we already know isn't leaving. Why? because for most ppl cheating is a dealbreaker and the implied answer to that question is always "Yes". So, if they're asking about lip gloss, or hair in the shower, it's only for two reasons. 1. They just want the gory details to harp on and bring up in arguments later because they're not going anywhere. Or 2. Becuase they wanna know before they start pack their things if you had family over this weekend or not. This person is trying to give you the benefit of the slightest doubt. And dealing with a person like Joe it's damn near a joke cuz how you not know how someone else's hair ends up in your shower? Gaslighting like af. Joe clearly said he's had this argument over and over so I can only assume it's with women who fall in the # 1. category or else his follow up question to theirs wouldn't even exist.
I’m with Joe I ain’t do shit im not wasting my time mad about something I know the truth about. I’m not about to kiss ass to make you believe what I just told you was the truth. This shows that soon as a insecurity with trust is created GET OUTTA THERE
The real question is what if you found another guys underwear in the laundry? Or something equal in raising a question that a guy that should not have been in the house potentially was. She says "Not sure babe I have no idea" And you are good with her just saying "I'm not about to kiss your ass over your insecurites"? And I think there is a huge difference between an insecurity in maybe her wondering who you were just on phone with vs another chicks stuff in your house or guys stuff in your case. Thats called evidence lol
@@casherj1 that’s not the real question. The real question is WHAT IF YOU REALLY DONT KNOW?? nobody was in the house you didn’t do nothing with nobody and the lip gloss just pop up and you don’t know how it got there You gon stand there for hours and argue when yo know the truth?
@@214silk2 Thats not actually the real question. Because if the guy woudl sit there and give the same energy if he thought something funny was up then he should treat the situation with a little more compassion considering if he were in the same boat he would not want her to just say " I dont know and im not going to sit here and talk about it" But if he would just say Ok to her saying she doenst know and drop it then yes he could hold that logic.
@@casherj1 handle the situation how you want. I’m not kissing no ass because you allow an object to cause turmoil between us. If I give a response to any question and you don’t believe my response without actual evidence to prove why you don’t believe what I just told you then it’s an insecurity and trust issue on YOUR end. I’m not protecting your feelings to prove my truth. Gtfoh or grow up
Joe right. All he saying is most women is not gonna let it go n you gonna be explaining yourself forever over dumb stuff until you give her the answer she made up in her head. Doesnt matter what you say when she has it made up in her mind what she think it is she is gonna nag tf out of you You replying or just talking is keeping that conversation going after you gave your 100% truth n honest answer a 1000 times. Not gaslighting nor manipulation when you simply dnt wanna keep arguing over dumb shit you gave your answer to already. Most times its not even bout trust or nun of that. Just how a woman is
So let’s say you’re home, Joe. You find a man’s watch in between the sofa cushions. You ask your girl. She doesn’t know how it got there and hits you with “is this a productive way to spend our time arguing?” Lol are you dropping it? Do you feel safe that she didn’t have a man over?
That shit only works on dumb broads lol what y’all don’t seem to understand is that a woman doesn’t need a reason to not trust you. If you’re showing signs of being unfaithful you’re getting interrogated lol it’s how the man communicates/ explains himself afterwards that really sets off everything . If you come off all defensive and angry and try to pull that reverse table crap lol you’re just digging your own grave. Now , if you give her reassurance and come to her calm that with solutions or explanations ….that’s usually a sign of someone being honest. I can read my man’s face . I know him inside out. I know when he’s lying, nervous etc. so what Joe was saying in the beginning lol that shit don’t work on women like me .
It's funny because Joe said before he gave his option said he gaslights then Flip says that's manipulation...yea exactly he's breaking down how he's gaslighting them lol
I hate this money narrative. Some TH-cam BS. Ya’ll act like there wasn’t dudes in the neighborhood with no money, no fame, no clout bagging women. How do you think pimps are made?
@@MozeleyTribe OOOOH IT DIDNT TALK ABOUT BEATING ASS , smashing faces ! Oooh if that’s in the narrative ok . Let me listen again and see if BIG JOE threatened her azz with a pistol like PIMPS
@kennethemenike1597 so do yall fk boys get together and have meetings ever Sunday ...To suck each other off and find new ways to manipulate woman lol. So lame and disgraceful 😅
Flip seem like a stand up dude and never stepped out. Being able to mentally dominate your girl even if youre wrong is what is really being talked about here. It’s not every man. Be yourself. I also understand what Joe is talking about. Because whether he cheated or didnt cheat, Joe wins. And that is Flip’s issue with it. The question is do you have the STOMACH to win at all costs? (I do)
Listening to grown men talk like this is 🤢🤮 in offering advice smh 🤦🏾♀️ and they say women can't take accountability!?! Yet your out here manipulating and gaslighting women you say you love and care about 🥴... I'm glad Flip was there to be the voice of reason it shows he's leaps and bounds ahead of the older heads when it comes to maturity and emotional stability - the others need to do better but I guess you can't teach an old dog new tricks 🙄🙃
@@kennethemenike1597 she don’t let that man breathe and the minute he step out the house she stressed thinking he with the next bch that’s why she go out her way to prove they have a “happy” marriage
This child (Joe) said “REAL ALPHA SH**” like he even knows what a real alpha is lol 😂. This is so crazy what’s coming out his mouth. Mr. Gaslighter himself. I hope he’s saying this just for entertainment lol 😂
Bruh what Joe is saying aint even gaslighting. Some thought should be given to calm your partner's concerns but if you've really not done anything why would you want to have to explain a situation you have no idea about?
Joe beyond toxic. Flip, Joe doesn’t make sense because it’s called narcissism my dear. Let the entire situation flip and Joe find a game controller in the girl house .. logic change real fast. The stuff Joe will excuse for himself with a woman, a woman could never do to Joe.
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I love when Flip calls them out and say STOP. Thats accountability.
Flip was absolutely right. They gaslit Flip like they do women.
Flip got a new respect from me! They was looking at him like bro code…ever heard of it?! 😂😂😂 Flip is a real one. Joe was speaking like a 22 year old man child on that one. Which surprised me.
Right, I see Flip in a new light! Respect and Joe could've kept that phone call. Lmao
@@amourg.4371 I likeJoe but his immature actions doesn’t surprise me lol… that’s why he date younger women 😂
Wow! Flip is the voice of reason and he’s right.
Nah, sis.😂 This is fax, it really could have been the sisters or mom or even a cousins and they just forgot. I've seen it, maybe not in this exact scenario but it has happened.
Two things can be true at once it could be a family members or friends lip gloss it can also be something deeper
It continues to sadden me deeply that this is how so many men continue to show up with the women they share time and space with--it’s so disheartening! Much love and respect to Flip for exhibiting emotional stability and availability. Keep doing your work sir!
JOE CALLING HIS GIRL WAS ANOTHER FORM OF GASLIGHTING THE WHOLE CREW AND AUDIENCE LOL
And his girl cause now she really believes that was the cleaning lady's hair 😂
That's part and an opportunity to trigger her all over again about it 🤦🏾♀️ even though he said its not important KMT
Yo I definitely thought like Joe in the past. Hearing Flip's rebuttal was needed. Salute 🫡
calling his girl was NASTY WORK 😂 that was a real masterclass of gaslighting
Joe just finally admitted that he is a gas lighter! He literally does this to everyone he argues with
Lol sorry to tell you joe.. she stays for the money and amenities. 😂😂😂 But think what you want.
He knows. That’s how he exerts control, by tricking. He’s not dumb
The phone call is simply too much JOE. 😂 Just make your point like everyone else SIR. We can’t just be calling outside help to make a point JOSEPH.
Yea he’s doing too much
Not Joseph 😂
Why not it’s entertaining
Joe is some next level toxic. Dangerous. Never thought QueenzFlip as the youngest one would be the voice of reason in a room of 4 grown men.
Even with outside help from his Girl, he still lost the argument. His girl just let that shit slide. Flip makes the most since.
Wow @ around 3:20 I realized Joe ain’t shit 😂
Total 🚮
Flip Is right again lol
Flips chair quit. Too much punishment.
So Glad He Checked Joe on his 🐃💩. Somebody has Some Sense!
Toxic
How tf did this guy become president of the U.S. He needs to get serious and worry about the future of this country . Shit burns me up
This deserves more likes lol
What Joe is talking about ONLY works when the person not cheating cares more than the cheater. It's contingent on him saying "Okay so you gone leave?" Know full well they aren't. That shit doesn't work with the "If you don't give a damn I'on give af" folks.
A person should definitely leave when they find something suspicious...especially if their partner isn't open to having an honest discussion about it.
But, that partner should also take that L with no questions asked when they come home to an empty house and no explanation letter left.
Perks of having money and fame
Wrong! The point of asking “are you gonna leave” is for the person to see if this argument is as serious to them as they are making it. Because there are people that make mountains out of mole hills… because they love to be at odds with their partner. By asking “are you gonna leave” it allows them to assess their real stance on the issue. And the real stance, as he said, would be “I think you’re cheating”. And if that’s the case, then it’s time to have that talk… not a talk about some fuckin lipgloss. The hair strand is just the door opener to a bigger issue you probably already had. And if you don’t have a real issue… then what are we even talking about?
@farrellcityking1 The real stance is obviously implied. And like I said, that question of "Are you going to leave?" Is only asked as a way to gaslight someone we already know isn't leaving. Why? because for most ppl cheating is a dealbreaker and the implied answer to that question is always "Yes".
So, if they're asking about lip gloss, or hair in the shower, it's only for two reasons.
1. They just want the gory details to harp on and bring up in arguments later because they're not going anywhere.
Or
2. Becuase they wanna know before they start pack their things if you had family over this weekend or not. This person is trying to give you the benefit of the slightest doubt. And dealing with a person like Joe it's damn near a joke cuz how you not know how someone else's hair ends up in your shower? Gaslighting like af.
Joe clearly said he's had this argument over and over so I can only assume it's with women who fall in the # 1. category or else his follow up question to theirs wouldn't even exist.
@@ATKCAMThat is not true. Money and fame doesn’t make a women love you
@@MozeleyTribe makes them stick around thru bullshit tho
Flip won this debate sorry 😂 The call with your girl didnt help the way you thought it did 😂
Lmao ish and ice faces while Joe was talking about that hair with his girl said anything we need to know. Joe is the master of gaslighting 😂
I peeped that lol they be knowing !
Devils hang together
Next time a dude says there’s no such thing as gaslighting, send him a him a link of this.
Look at Ish face while Joe is on the phone. 🤣🤣
Flip the only one adultin out here
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽Stand on your words Flip! 🙌🏽
Joe is right about something . Some ledges you gonna fight on your own.
Fresh & Fit in 25 years
They wish 😭 they’ll be out of the closet by then
Flip is correct
LMAO JOE IS SICK. Ngl those gaslighting techniques are excellent but he toxic as f lmao I’m not justifying it but it’s hilarious 😂
joe rlly called his wife and basically humiliated her as he talks to her abt how she let some cheating slide and he’s laughing abt it ..
I’m with Joe
I ain’t do shit im not wasting my time mad about something I know the truth about. I’m not about to kiss ass to make you believe what I just told you was the truth. This shows that soon as a insecurity with trust is created GET OUTTA THERE
The real question is what if you found another guys underwear in the laundry? Or something equal in raising a question that a guy that should not have been in the house potentially was. She says "Not sure babe I have no idea" And you are good with her just saying "I'm not about to kiss your ass over your insecurites"? And I think there is a huge difference between an insecurity in maybe her wondering who you were just on phone with vs another chicks stuff in your house or guys stuff in your case. Thats called evidence lol
@@casherj1 that’s not the real question. The real question is WHAT IF YOU REALLY DONT KNOW?? nobody was in the house you didn’t do nothing with nobody and the lip gloss just pop up and you don’t know how it got there
You gon stand there for hours and argue when yo know the truth?
Agreed. If I'm innocent you fighting that one on your own. I'm not defending myself from sh## I didn't even do
@@214silk2 Thats not actually the real question. Because if the guy woudl sit there and give the same energy if he thought something funny was up then he should treat the situation with a little more compassion considering if he were in the same boat he would not want her to just say " I dont know and im not going to sit here and talk about it" But if he would just say Ok to her saying she doenst know and drop it then yes he could hold that logic.
@@casherj1 handle the situation how you want. I’m not kissing no ass because you allow an object to cause turmoil between us. If I give a response to any question and you don’t believe my response without actual evidence to prove why you don’t believe what I just told you then it’s an insecurity and trust issue on YOUR end. I’m not protecting your feelings to prove my truth. Gtfoh or grow up
Joe you have really evolved, now call Tahiry and ask her about that time she found makeup on the sheets in the bed 😮👀😳🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
He later admitted that he did something.
Joe is blatantly wrong 😭
Course correct is sick.😂😂
Lmaooo I’m with Flip. That’s 100% manipulation
Joe a narcissist fr
This is why they need flip fr
Thank you Flip!!
Only person could tell you how to get out of cheating, is Offset?
Joe right. All he saying is most women is not gonna let it go n you gonna be explaining yourself forever over dumb stuff until you give her the answer she made up in her head. Doesnt matter what you say when she has it made up in her mind what she think it is she is gonna nag tf out of you You replying or just talking is keeping that conversation going after you gave your 100% truth n honest answer a 1000 times. Not gaslighting nor manipulation when you simply dnt wanna keep arguing over dumb shit you gave your answer to already. Most times its not even bout trust or nun of that. Just how a woman is
Flip got a point and he not wrong.
So let’s say you’re home, Joe. You find a man’s watch in between the sofa cushions. You ask your girl. She doesn’t know how it got there and hits you with “is this a productive way to spend our time arguing?” Lol are you dropping it? Do you feel safe that she didn’t have a man over?
When you gaslight someone you negatively effect your own mental health. Just be honest
Why Joe cut them off when it was getting good but he got to make that long ass phone call that added nothing
Because it’s called the Joe Budden Podcast 😅
GASLIGHT JOE!
That shit only works on dumb broads lol what y’all don’t seem to understand is that a woman doesn’t need a reason to not trust you. If you’re showing signs of being unfaithful you’re getting interrogated lol it’s how the man communicates/ explains himself afterwards that really sets off everything . If you come off all defensive and angry and try to pull that reverse table crap lol you’re just digging your own grave. Now , if you give her reassurance and come to her calm that with solutions or explanations ….that’s usually a sign of someone being honest. I can read my man’s face . I know him inside out. I know when he’s lying, nervous etc. so what Joe was saying in the beginning lol that shit don’t work on women like me .
💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
So Joe is Jada. Got it. For real all y'all except Flip.
It's funny because Joe said before he gave his option said he gaslights then Flip says that's manipulation...yea exactly he's breaking down how he's gaslighting them lol
Very mature conversation gentlemen.
Joe has a lil money that’s a easy reason for her to get over it. If he was BROKE or had start struggling 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️ She could be out
I hate this money narrative. Some TH-cam BS. Ya’ll act like there wasn’t dudes in the neighborhood with no money, no fame, no clout bagging women. How do you think pimps are made?
@@MozeleyTribe OOOOH IT DIDNT TALK ABOUT BEATING ASS , smashing faces ! Oooh if that’s in the narrative ok . Let me listen again and see if BIG JOE threatened her azz with a pistol like PIMPS
Flip look like he got a fat suit on
It's all fun and games until u come home one day and ur ice machine smells like cologne, and she tells u why u worry about dumb shit ...
Joe she’s not over it she’s playing it close🤣 if she finds another strand of hair it’s on bro
Yep! That strand is at her sister's house in a zip lock labeled "evidence" 😂
@@Mmeme2023100% 😂😂😂😂
@@Mmeme2023she sent it to the lab for testing 😂
She don't care 😂 she don't love him she loves his Money and fame... She a ONLYFAN Girl
Facts you deny and gaslight your way out the fire
Works sometimes lol she start questioning herself and feel guilty and start apologizing to you 😅
@kennethemenike1597 so do yall fk boys get together and have meetings ever Sunday ...To suck each other off and find new ways to manipulate woman lol. So lame and disgraceful 😅
If you cheat I can't trust your business ethics either.
Flip seem like a stand up dude and never stepped out. Being able to mentally dominate your girl even if youre wrong is what is really being talked about here. It’s not every man. Be yourself. I also understand what Joe is talking about. Because whether he cheated or didnt cheat, Joe wins. And that is Flip’s issue with it. The question is do you have the STOMACH to win at all costs? (I do)
I agree with joe we either wemove on together or you'll stress about it by yourself especially since i lnow i aint cheating
Must be hard trying to explain stuff to Flip. Lol
Does the patreon have audio only yet?
Flip does it again! Call em out!
Using my fights. USING MY FIGHTS
cheating 300 times is INSANE !
Listening to grown men talk like this is 🤢🤮 in offering advice smh 🤦🏾♀️ and they say women can't take accountability!?! Yet your out here manipulating and gaslighting women you say you love and care about 🥴... I'm glad Flip was there to be the voice of reason it shows he's leaps and bounds ahead of the older heads when it comes to maturity and emotional stability - the others need to do better but I guess you can't teach an old dog new tricks 🙄🙃
Flip is 100% correct but I’m still going to do what Joe said 100% of the time lmao
Joe is not married. If he was there wouldn’t be all that bravado. He would definitely handle it differently.
I agree. Which is probably why he’ll forever be a bachelor
This nigga wild😭😭
I agree with Joe. I will not entertain nonsense.
Flip panders
If I cheat I’ll leave I won’t ask her to stay with me. And usually she won’t let me leave
I'm legit on Joe time. This happen to me before and I run exactly like Joe. I never had anyone in the house I'm not going back and forth about it.
Fuck the gaslighting, just let it be called what it is and don’t apologize! Once you start gaslighting you losing creditably for the future….😅
Flip is right man lmao
Ain’t no way out but down. Hellfire.
They had to do this segment when Mel wasn’t on 😂
I say that shit to. What u gonna leave now? Lol😂 it works
Until you catch an uncurable STD as KARMA....
I say it sometimes and she stays silent then later apologizes to me cos she knows the streets is cold
@@kennethemenike1597😂😂😂
I pray yaw go to hell. Sooner than later
JBP!!
Let me point out the word “gaslighting” was made in 1938. Why did people pull this “card” out in the 2020s?
Y'all must have forgot how toxic Joe is to be surprised by this. This dude called up his girl to bring up a past fight. That's crazy
KRAZY
Well, that'll be my last show.
This what Offset do to Cardi everyday he gaslight his way out of it by buying her a whole floral shop and a birkin 😂😂 poor tink she in denial
Cardi talk all that shit but she know damn well she’s not leaving offset lol
@@kennethemenike1597 she don’t let that man breathe and the minute he step out the house she stressed thinking he with the next bch that’s why she go out her way to prove they have a “happy” marriage
This child (Joe) said “REAL
ALPHA SH**” like he even knows what a real alpha is lol 😂. This is so crazy what’s coming out his mouth. Mr. Gaslighter himself. I hope he’s saying this just for entertainment lol 😂
Joe Budden the conflict resolution specialist! LOL
Antonio right here
And then what if it was vice versa, the guy peeping hella clues to the girl cheating
Joe is good 😂😂😂😂
Bruh what Joe is saying aint even gaslighting. Some thought should be given to calm your partner's concerns but if you've really not done anything why would you want to have to explain a situation you have no idea about?
All is fair in love and war 😂 and it's a WAR out there rn
Flip got it 😂😂😂 Stop
Joe sounds nuts
its just funny cuz uk if joes gf found a lip gloss its from the girl hes fkin lol same with the hair in the shower
This is not the most valuable use of our time 😂😂 sounds good but that ain’t working every time.
Yo if the lip gloss is hers then y the argument
Typical freaking Male Virgo.....Joe!!!!!!!
Married to one😩
Joe actually makes the mostvsense to me
Y’all ain’t sh!t 🗣
😮😮 joe has good mid set
Nah just say u Muslim 😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
Joe beyond toxic. Flip, Joe doesn’t make sense because it’s called narcissism my dear. Let the entire situation flip and Joe find a game controller in the girl house .. logic change real fast. The stuff Joe will excuse for himself with a woman, a woman could never do to Joe.
“Real Alpha shit” CRINGE OLD HEADS
Like babe there are 2 wars Goin on and you wanna Argue over lip gloss😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
After 17x u still there, its a choice
The government is Arguing over the budget deficit It could shutdown in another 10 days ..you wanna argue about Lip Gloss😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂