If you were ever curious the distinctly Buffalo Trace flavor notes are caused by Methyl anthranilate and Raspberry ketones. This are both chemicals that are byproducts of fermentation by their specific yeast strain. Similarly the banana note in Brown Forman is caused by Isoamyl acetate. That's also a byproduct of fermentation, though it's mostly caused when you let the yeast ferment at higher temperatures a bit faster.
@@Best_Served_Neat_On_Ice there are multiple chemicals that are classified as raspberry ketones. Anisyl Acetone is the most prevalent. Depending on what compounds it is combined with it can give the impression of raspberry, cherry, rose, or cassis. It's an aroma thing more than a flavor thing, but most of flavor is aroma. Methyl anthranilate is the classic artificial grape flavor. It exists naturally in Concord grapes as well.
Although I tend to like wheaters, Special Reserve isn’t one that I gravitate to. Weller 107 or Weller 12 are better choices for me. Love the content - have a wonderful holiday season! 🎄
Was at Zoom tasting with Harlan Wheatly last night. 5 whiskeys including Weller 12, Weller single barrel and regular Buffalo bourbon. The only standout was the single barrel.
I’m a Josh wanna be, but current am a social sipper. Had my first pour of WSR two days ago during a bar crawl. I really liked it! I can’t give tasting notes, but enjoyed it a great deal.
Weller for me has always been alright, best one i've had was 107. I say was because it's been impossible to get for 6 years meanwhile everything else is always available.
GO VOLS!! UT!!! Amirite Erin? 😜 I was able to try Daniel Weller at a local bar that had a tasting for high end BT pours and DW ranked last for all of us. The lineup was WLW ‘23, ER17 ‘23, and THH ‘23.
I find it interesting that BT is grapey on the nose regardless of whether it is a bourbon or wheater. I have a Weller full proof pick and get that note on the nose and early palate. It must be the yeast because the mash bill is different between the two. I hate to say but I'm not all that impressed with the 3 Wellers I own. The Full Proof pick was over a hundred and I didn't get a chance to taste it before buying. I was disappointed . Cheers.
Every now and then at the local whisky bar, I'll decide to splurge on something unusual and expensive. A while back, I went for Daniel Weller. I like it, though I wish it was higher strength. In general, Buffalo Trace products tend to do better at higher strength. Standard Blanton's, for example, fails to impress me, while I find SFTB to be considerably better. I like the earthy funk in Daniel Weller, but I can see that not being to everyone's taste. However, the price is way out of line. Given that it is somewhat unusual, I think $100 or so would be fair. I never have had Weller Special Reserve. For some reason, I never got around to it back when it was available. Sometimes, I see it on the menu at bars and restaurants, but there always seems to be something more interesting that I would rather drink. Weller 12 is somewhat underwhelming, so my assumption is that Special Reserve would be even more underwhelming. Where I live, it is seldom seen at retail. I've only seen it at museum stores, marked up to $100 or so, and the bottles have dust on them. Given that Antique 107, Full Proof, and 12-year have sometimes turned up for less than that, I see no reason to buy a bottle of Special Reserve. I suppose I should try it at a bar one of these days. It is never expensive in that setting. For grainy, earthy bourbon, craft distilleries and Texas provide plenty of options. They aren't going to taste exactly like Daniel Weller, but that is fine. Many of them lean into the funk more strongly, and I like them better, especially the ones that are cask strength. Hopefully, one of these distilleries will work with emmer wheat and do a better job with it at a lower price. The special edition situation at Buffalo Trace and other legacy distilleries has become ridiculous. Some Scotch distilleries have jumped onto this bandwagon too, and they are also taking it too far, though the prices and availability tend to be somewhat better, so I find some of them (especially those from Ardbeg) to be at least worth considering. I might occasionally try one of these hard to find special editions at a bar, but I'm not going to waste a lot of time digging through the stores to seek these things out. If I happen to see one, I might buy it if the price isn't absurd and it looks sufficiently interesting.
This was created as peacock whiskey. It’s for people with throw away money who aren’t necessarily targeting flavor, but trying to show off and have a “story” behind what they are drinking to impress their friends. Think of the business card scene from American Psycho
I just don’t understand why anyone would pay $500 for Daniel Weller. Like.. if you want something weird or an unusual grain, there’s plenty of craft distilleries offering that for under $100.
Buffalo Trace has figured out they can sell the same whiskey in other bottles by limiting them, creating hype. Take their Trace bottles and put them away for 4-6 years and they will taste like their special editions.
If you were ever curious the distinctly Buffalo Trace flavor notes are caused by Methyl anthranilate and Raspberry ketones. This are both chemicals that are byproducts of fermentation by their specific yeast strain. Similarly the banana note in Brown Forman is caused by Isoamyl acetate. That's also a byproduct of fermentation, though it's mostly caused when you let the yeast ferment at higher temperatures a bit faster.
Thank you for the deep dive into the granular (grainular 😀) data! Those sidebars were my favorite part of Bryson’s Whiskey Master Class.
Dropping knowledge!
arbeck,
So the ketones have a raspberry flavor? And what flavor does the Methyl have?
@@Best_Served_Neat_On_Ice there are multiple chemicals that are classified as raspberry ketones. Anisyl Acetone is the most prevalent. Depending on what compounds it is combined with it can give the impression of raspberry, cherry, rose, or cassis. It's an aroma thing more than a flavor thing, but most of flavor is aroma. Methyl anthranilate is the classic artificial grape flavor. It exists naturally in Concord grapes as well.
Dang she snapped with the stop laughing lol we now know who is the boss 😂
😂😂
I've said it and heard it said. Just because it's more expensive doesn't mean it's better. Cheers 🎉🎉🎉
All that laughing must have been real outta line. lol😂
Always great watching you guys 🥃🥃🥃Happy Holidays, have a blessed one 🙏🏽
Thanks! Happy Holidays to you too!
Great video!! Loved to see Josh laugh so hard :)
Although I tend to like wheaters, Special Reserve isn’t one that I gravitate to. Weller 107 or Weller 12 are better choices for me.
Love the content - have a wonderful holiday season! 🎄
I put a charred oak spiral in my wellers special reserve for about 2 months and it is fantastic
Was at Zoom tasting with Harlan Wheatly last night. 5 whiskeys including Weller 12, Weller single barrel and regular Buffalo bourbon. The only standout was the single barrel.
Great video! My only wish is that it could be played on a nonstop loop at Buffalo Trace headquarters.
Damn, no laughing allowed!
😂😂
Love both your reactions!!
Nice review! Bardstown high wheat for 50.00 bucks would crush the Daniel Weller.
Let’s see… one Daniel Weller bottle or 10 Rare Breeds. Man, this is tough! 😂
Clicked on the video and popped some popcorn before it started.
WHISKEY CHEERS 😎
BT charges these prices because people will pay these prices...simple as that.
Correct. BT sees them coming a mile away LOL
@@red5standingby419 They have to pay for that new still and rickhouses some way. LOL
Yea Capitalism. Go ‘merica!
Add that Daniel Weller to the list of $500 bottles I have bought that were not worth it. It’s up there with Rare Hare. 😂
Now that’s a head-to-head, Daniel Weller vs Rare Hare. 😂
A new ‘two thumbs down’ rating would need to be instituted.
I’m a Josh wanna be, but current am a social sipper. Had my first pour of WSR two days ago during a bar crawl. I really liked it! I can’t give tasting notes, but enjoyed it a great deal.
Weller for me has always been alright, best one i've had was 107. I say was because it's been impossible to get for 6 years meanwhile everything else is always available.
GO VOLS!! UT!!!
Amirite Erin? 😜
I was able to try Daniel Weller at a local bar that had a tasting for high end BT pours and DW ranked last for all of us. The lineup was WLW ‘23, ER17 ‘23, and THH ‘23.
Oh man, Daniel Weller might’ve tasted like dog water against those hitters! 😂
I find it interesting that BT is grapey on the nose regardless of whether it is a bourbon or wheater. I have a Weller full proof pick and get that note on the nose and early palate. It must be the yeast because the mash bill is different between the two. I hate to say but I'm not all that impressed with the 3 Wellers I own. The Full Proof pick was over a hundred and I didn't get a chance to taste it before buying. I was disappointed . Cheers.
Definitely the yeast!
Yeah, I think that Daniel Weller was met with a universal eye roll
Every now and then at the local whisky bar, I'll decide to splurge on something unusual and expensive. A while back, I went for Daniel Weller. I like it, though I wish it was higher strength. In general, Buffalo Trace products tend to do better at higher strength. Standard Blanton's, for example, fails to impress me, while I find SFTB to be considerably better. I like the earthy funk in Daniel Weller, but I can see that not being to everyone's taste. However, the price is way out of line. Given that it is somewhat unusual, I think $100 or so would be fair.
I never have had Weller Special Reserve. For some reason, I never got around to it back when it was available. Sometimes, I see it on the menu at bars and restaurants, but there always seems to be something more interesting that I would rather drink. Weller 12 is somewhat underwhelming, so my assumption is that Special Reserve would be even more underwhelming. Where I live, it is seldom seen at retail. I've only seen it at museum stores, marked up to $100 or so, and the bottles have dust on them. Given that Antique 107, Full Proof, and 12-year have sometimes turned up for less than that, I see no reason to buy a bottle of Special Reserve. I suppose I should try it at a bar one of these days. It is never expensive in that setting.
For grainy, earthy bourbon, craft distilleries and Texas provide plenty of options. They aren't going to taste exactly like Daniel Weller, but that is fine. Many of them lean into the funk more strongly, and I like them better, especially the ones that are cask strength. Hopefully, one of these distilleries will work with emmer wheat and do a better job with it at a lower price.
The special edition situation at Buffalo Trace and other legacy distilleries has become ridiculous. Some Scotch distilleries have jumped onto this bandwagon too, and they are also taking it too far, though the prices and availability tend to be somewhat better, so I find some of them (especially those from Ardbeg) to be at least worth considering. I might occasionally try one of these hard to find special editions at a bar, but I'm not going to waste a lot of time digging through the stores to seek these things out. If I happen to see one, I might buy it if the price isn't absurd and it looks sufficiently interesting.
Love the idea of Texas distilleries trying their hand at Emmer wheat!
This was created as peacock whiskey. It’s for people with throw away money who aren’t necessarily targeting flavor, but trying to show off and have a “story” behind what they are drinking to impress their friends. Think of the business card scene from American Psycho
There will be no laughing, Josh! Was this recorded AFTER the Balmorhea video? 😂
First recording of the day on this one. Balmorhea was last that particular day.
I just don’t understand why anyone would pay $500 for Daniel Weller. Like.. if you want something weird or an unusual grain, there’s plenty of craft distilleries offering that for under $100.
No bottle is worth 500
Was anyone else as disappointed as I was when the laughing made it hard to hear Erin?
Buffalo Trace has figured out they can sell the same whiskey in other bottles by limiting them, creating hype. Take their Trace bottles and put them away for 4-6 years and they will taste like their special editions.
Just let him laugh... that glass deserved a good, long laugh. Love Buffalo Trace, but no... just no.
Best video yet
Maybe add a double thumbs down rating.
High proof bias.
We’re team more flavor over less flavor, but plenty of pours pull off big flavor at lower proof points. These aren’t two of those bottles. 😂