This is crazy... Updated yesterday and couldn't drag myself away from all the new sounds!! It went from being difficult to make it sound real, to feeling like the real amp is in your room. Amazing!
Thanks for doing these video's man. I work a lot and play in worship band every week. This saves me a ton of time of getting up to speed with the 3.50 update, especially the cab setups. I look forward to more content like this!
I get my Hx stomp 2 weeks ago, I guess I arrived in a great time for this machine. Thanks a lot fort the video which will save me time and help me getting better results !
The delay within both cabs is nice for the cab reflections, but you can also use it for a (fake, but cool) double track like effect. Before, I did this by using two cabs, pulling down one cab to create a secondary path, panning both cabs hard left and right and adding a delay to one cab with 0 feedback, 100% mix and 20-25ms time. Now, you can do ALL that, in ONE block: no need for a secondary path and an extra delay block. Just use a dual cab, pan them hard left and right (within each cab individually) and set the delay of one cab to 20-20ms (within the cab settings). Obviously, everything after the dual cabs has to be stereo or you won't have the effect. You now have a secondary path free to use for other stuff than the double track effect if you did it like I did before with the secondary path + delay. And you can now also do the same with dual IR's. The delay parameter isn't available within each individual IR though. When using dual IR's, you get a third tab, called "both" which contains a mix parameter and a delay parameter. When dragging the delay left, you adjust the delay of one IR, when dragging right, you adjust the delay of the other one. If they are panned hard left and right (do that within the IR's themselves individually), you get the same double track effect. NICE! And with IR's, you can change the IR's themselves with snapshots (like before). With cabs, you can change the mic types and their position with snapshots, which you could also do before. But the new dual cab/IR blocks including the new mic handling (for the cabs), pan and delay parameters are making this a superb and very significant update!
Just got the Helix floor this week. Did the update with no problems, so I don't know what I didn't have before the update. I've built one preset with a tutorial from another TH-cam page and that was for worship guitar. We're talking 3 drives, 3 delays, 2 reverbs and more. So now, I'm looking for more simpler stuff for Classic Rock and Country stuff. Appreciate what you do man.
I'm so jelly 😫 I will be traveling until next summer and my Helix is in storage. I think this is the kind of update most of us have been waiting for. I appreciate the time you put in to help the Helix community Steve 🙏 Thanks, Gale
I've always been a combo amp guy, so the idea of using one cabinet across multiple amps never really occurred to me--I always have selected Amp+Cab blocks. With the new changes in 3.5, though, I can see where this would work REALLY well. I'll now be separating the two!
Super video Steve! First, I'm really impressed by how much of an influence the cab+mic combo makes on ALL amp tones without even touching the amp! Second, I like the novel idea of setting up the cab+mic blocks first, then adjusting the amp (if even needed); seems like a LOT less amp tweaking is needed. Finally, I really like the idea of setting up some favorites & defaults to make it easier to create new Presets in the future. Why continue to reinvent the wheel? Keep the great videos coming!
Yep, my experience is the same. Set the Cabinet sound selecting a good Mic/combination, move them to locations that sound good, and you're essentially done. I was dumbfounded by how simple it was to dial in an awesome sound, and how fast and fun it was. It also demonstrates how good the Stock Amp settings are. I updated a couple of days ago to 3.50 and it was well worth it for the sounds, and the reduction in DSP usage by 66-80%. This means that more Blocks or DSP intensive Blocks can be used within the 8-Block limitation. By switching to the same, but new more efficient Cab from the Update, I was able to add the "1 Switch Looper" to a Preset that had an open Block, but not enough DSP. I think I'll be updating my old Presets with the new Cabs, as the DSP improvements seem worth it. Thanks
I don't know if you've noticed yet or not, but each cab has a set spot where it tells you it's on the cap edge, and it seems to be at a different number value for each cab. Interesting!
Another great addition you should check out is the Dynamic Ambience block you can add now. Adds a room feel to the sound, mostly audible if you're playing through headphones or monitors.
Steve mine crashed half way.through snd wasn't the expected issues "it crashed" and I could have cried especially with all this new cool stuff right out a reach lol but luckily I got it back up thanks for you cool videos on update great work
I still use third party irs so I can switch to different cabs. That said, the delaying one cab in a dual one makes higher gain rhythm sounds soooo huge. Knocked it out of the park!
One thing I've learned from your last few videos is how to add to favorites and make user default profiles. Great stuff! I know you are thrilled with not having to change the stock amp settings, but the question I have is - with the cab optimized, what happens when the amp is then changed? I know, it's a lot to take in right now, but for future videos maybe you could take one of these optimized cabs and explore the range of tomes by adjusting the amp.
to have a user account on Line 6 site you need your SN# and a date of purchase by unscrewing the bottom plate you can see the circuit board and it has a date if you have say a USED HX
Great Video again |Steve. Is there a reason why when I bring up dual cabs I don't get two of the same like in your demo? I can easy enough change them but wondered if there's a reason?
Favorite just keeps it in the favorite section for ease of putting it in a patch. User default is fixing a setting for a specific amp. Whenever you select the amp it will recall that default setting then you can edit if you want. Default just sets the baseline settings.
Was watching a Clint Curtis menu and he has a Factory 1 setlist with really good presets. I have a Stomp and I don't have those presets...maybe something I'm doing? I have similar presets as earlier. FX:, DIR:, ACO: etc. Any way I can get a backup of a Factory 1 preset list? Now I know why people are raving about the sound...I hadn't heard those presets in my Stomp because they are not there... Any help anyone would be appreciated. Or please educate me as to what I don't know? Thank You in advance and Best Regards.
Hi Steve, not sure if you can help here (or respond). I have a Helix LT and I followed your instructions as closely as possible for the settings you did for the Princeton, however, it doesn't remotely sound as clean and responsive as yours. It's all a little muddy. I tried with XLRs to Headrush FRFR and directly to a KRK Rokit. Any ideas why this may be happening? I really have to boost the treble/presence in the amp setting to get to sound brighter and more like an amp.
What volume level are you listening at? Speakers really need to be cranked up sometimes to get the right sound. If its super quiet, the headrush and monitors will be muddy
@@SteveSterlacci Thank you for responding. I had the Helix LT at 10:00 o'clock and the Headrush was half way. I turned up the Helix to 3:00 oclock (roughly 3/4) and that did make a difference. Thank you!
have you change the humbuckers yet ? cortex had a update aswell ,i oovd my helix but really wanna buy cortex , cause its small , they are same price at the moment but im gonna lose some money on my helix probably sell it 1.100 or 1.200£
Steve after update I had a crash and thought I has it fixed but now it seems my presets are kinda spinning dif and when I switch ftom flat mode to speaker mode my volume goes out the roof do you know how I can address this
Soundwise, I guess (almost) none. However, it allows for two cabs to be in one single block, including panning and even delay on one cab for instance, if you want a (half) stereo, double track like effect. Not needing two seperate cab blocks which have to be on two paths, also leaves the secondary path free for other stuff like wet dry effects...
Delaying one of your two microphones does NOT take the place of early reflections (very short room like reverb). It only delays the whichever microphone's input into your signal! I use it mostly to create a wider stereo effect when I use it with panning (HAAS EFFECT!). th-cam.com/video/sz9pZZzpxws/w-d-xo.html
I'm testing a lot with mics and positions and always come to the conclusion that off-centre or angled doesn't sound right for me . And btw: not everyone uses the 57. My favorite is the Sennheiser 906.
I wonder if my ears don´t work anymore but i think this presets are very dull and will not cut through the mix. Maybe the ears of an old man....🙂 Btw. i like your vids steve!
Thanks Alex! Id have to take it out and try it to be sure, but I make my presets intentionally darker when i am home because when it gets amplified through a PA system, the highs are accentuated and almost always too harsh. So after years of experience dealing with it,, this will actually work best live 😁
Why should I go with the stock amp settings to dial in the cabs? That absolutely makes no sense to me. The stock settings mostly to far from what I want.
Hi Steve, I don't see a lot of videos on TH-cam, geared just for HX Effects users. I think this is an untapped opportunity, waiting for some savvy TH-camr to fill that need. I only use an HX Effects with 2 Peavey Classic 20 heads in the 7 cable method, along with a stereo Peavey cab. I need someone smarter than me to show me all the possibilities, when new firmware is released. Just sayin'. :)
Thank you! I have thought about that before. A lot of videos are cross compatible aside from the amps. I will have to look more into it. I would only use it into the front end as I am not an fx loop guy 😅
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These new cabs are like getting new toys. I've only messed with the Princess, but it sounds so damn good I can't tear myself away.
Exactly! I felt like i ran out of stuff to talk about in the video 🤣🤣🤣
Thanks!
thanks so much arty!
This is crazy... Updated yesterday and couldn't drag myself away from all the new sounds!! It went from being difficult to make it sound real, to feeling like the real amp is in your room. Amazing!
Everything has become so easy!
Thanks for doing these video's man. I work a lot and play in worship band every week. This saves me a ton of time of getting up to speed with the 3.50 update, especially the cab setups. I look forward to more content like this!
Thanks for checking it out! Ive got like 95 videos on helix out there
I get my Hx stomp 2 weeks ago, I guess I arrived in a great time for this machine. Thanks a lot fort the video which will save me time and help me getting better results !
The delay within both cabs is nice for the cab reflections, but you can also use it for a (fake, but cool) double track like effect. Before, I did this by using two cabs, pulling down one cab to create a secondary path, panning both cabs hard left and right and adding a delay to one cab with 0 feedback, 100% mix and 20-25ms time. Now, you can do ALL that, in ONE block: no need for a secondary path and an extra delay block. Just use a dual cab, pan them hard left and right (within each cab individually) and set the delay of one cab to 20-20ms (within the cab settings). Obviously, everything after the dual cabs has to be stereo or you won't have the effect. You now have a secondary path free to use for other stuff than the double track effect if you did it like I did before with the secondary path + delay. And you can now also do the same with dual IR's. The delay parameter isn't available within each individual IR though. When using dual IR's, you get a third tab, called "both" which contains a mix parameter and a delay parameter. When dragging the delay left, you adjust the delay of one IR, when dragging right, you adjust the delay of the other one. If they are panned hard left and right (do that within the IR's themselves individually), you get the same double track effect. NICE! And with IR's, you can change the IR's themselves with snapshots (like before). With cabs, you can change the mic types and their position with snapshots, which you could also do before. But the new dual cab/IR blocks including the new mic handling (for the cabs), pan and delay parameters are making this a superb and very significant update!
Great demo on why to start with the cabinet for your defaults.
Thanks so much! Hope you can use it
Just got the Helix floor this week. Did the update with no problems, so I don't know what I didn't have before the update. I've built one preset with a tutorial from another TH-cam page and that was for worship guitar. We're talking 3 drives, 3 delays, 2 reverbs and more. So now, I'm looking for more simpler stuff for Classic Rock and Country stuff. Appreciate what you do man.
Midrange Fist would also be a great guitar nerd band name
Thanks,Steve I am having real fun going through this update.
Any time ! Thanks for watching
I'm so jelly 😫 I will be traveling until next summer and my Helix is in storage. I think this is the kind of update most of us have been waiting for. I appreciate the time you put in to help the Helix community Steve 🙏 Thanks, Gale
I've always been a combo amp guy, so the idea of using one cabinet across multiple amps never really occurred to me--I always have selected Amp+Cab blocks. With the new changes in 3.5, though, I can see where this would work REALLY well. I'll now be separating the two!
Super video Steve! First, I'm really impressed by how much of an influence the cab+mic combo makes on ALL amp tones without even touching the amp! Second, I like the novel idea of setting up the cab+mic blocks first, then adjusting the amp (if even needed); seems like a LOT less amp tweaking is needed. Finally, I really like the idea of setting up some favorites & defaults to make it easier to create new Presets in the future. Why continue to reinvent the wheel? Keep the great videos coming!
I personally like to use different speakers on each side. My go to is the CaliV30 panned 70%L and the Marshall t75 panned 70%R
another great option!
Yep, my experience is the same. Set the Cabinet sound selecting a good Mic/combination, move them to locations that sound good, and you're essentially done. I was dumbfounded by how simple it was to dial in an awesome sound, and how fast and fun it was. It also demonstrates how good the Stock Amp settings are.
I updated a couple of days ago to 3.50 and it was well worth it for the sounds, and the reduction in DSP usage by 66-80%. This means that more Blocks or DSP intensive Blocks can be used within the 8-Block limitation. By switching to the same, but new more efficient Cab from the Update, I was able to add the "1 Switch Looper" to a Preset that had an open Block, but not enough DSP. I think I'll be updating my old Presets with the new Cabs, as the DSP improvements seem worth it. Thanks
I don't know if you've noticed yet or not, but each cab has a set spot where it tells you it's on the cap edge, and it seems to be at a different number value for each cab. Interesting!
Another great addition you should check out is the Dynamic Ambience block you can add now. Adds a room feel to the sound, mostly audible if you're playing through headphones or monitors.
it's great effect
Great video! Love your stuff man! These new update is such a treat
Steve mine crashed half way.through snd wasn't the expected issues "it crashed" and I could have cried especially with all this new cool stuff right out a reach lol but luckily I got it back up thanks for you cool videos on update great work
+++ this Update was a real surprise, i love it, tnx Steve+++
I still use third party irs so I can switch to different cabs. That said, the delaying one cab in a dual one makes higher gain rhythm sounds soooo huge. Knocked it out of the park!
One thing I've learned from your last few videos is how to add to favorites and make user default profiles. Great stuff!
I know you are thrilled with not having to change the stock amp settings, but the question I have is - with the cab optimized, what happens when the amp is then changed? I know, it's a lot to take in right now, but for future videos maybe you could take one of these optimized cabs and explore the range of tomes by adjusting the amp.
Nice! Those are old news by now but such great tools to have!
to have a user account on Line 6 site you need your SN# and a date of purchase
by unscrewing the bottom plate you can see the circuit board and it has a date if you have say a USED HX
great video very detailed
Thanks John!
Great look at the cabs! The difference is night and day. I found that amp models I never liked, im liking now. (apart from the ac30s.. Blurgh)
Excellent video!! New update really rocks!!
You gotta use that Archon a little more that’s a great amp. It even works on my tele
Yep, and the clean Archon channel/amp has tons of headroom!
The Helix 4x12 Blackback 30 is modelled after the 4x12" Park 75 G12 H30 cab.
Thanks for adding this! I never went into the literature to find out
Can always count on you for enlightening info regarding the Helix as well as other gear.
Nice Raglan !
The hardest thing with this update has been not touching the amps 1st like we've been doing for years already...
Yep! Thats what i went for in this vid. Now they can all just sound great!
I’m a metal player and tried the Panama and didn’t have to touch the settings and already had a great tone, just two cali v30 with 57 and 121 mics
@@piresrobson its that easy!
Awesome Steve!
Cheers and thanks for the great video
very cool video thx! awesome update ...helix never sounds better ...i never used stock cabs but with 3.5 I use it all the time now 😉
Thank you! Did you use any lo/hi cuts for this video? (E.g. via global eq)?
I had update issues. I didn't get the new cabs. I put my floor into update mode (safe) and updated again with the line6 updater and all was well
Thanks Steve! Do you know if these new cabinets are coming to the Powercab?
I don't sorry 🤷♂️
@@SteveSterlacci thanks
Great Video again |Steve. Is there a reason why when I bring up dual cabs I don't get two of the same like in your demo? I can easy enough change them but wondered if there's a reason?
Hit the link button next to the Dual tab 😄
Great stuff, Steve! Line 6 hit a grand slam with this update. I may be selling some pedals down the road 😝
Thanks Steve that was helpful. Quick question, maybe a dumb one but what's the difference between saving as a favorite and a user default?
Favorite just keeps it in the favorite section for ease of putting it in a patch.
User default is fixing a setting for a specific amp. Whenever you select the amp it will recall that default setting then you can edit if you want. Default just sets the baseline settings.
@@rovenordiales thank you🤟🏼👍🏼
Was watching a Clint Curtis menu and he has a Factory 1 setlist with really good presets. I have a Stomp and I don't have those presets...maybe something I'm doing? I have similar presets as earlier. FX:, DIR:, ACO: etc. Any way I can get a backup of a Factory 1 preset list? Now I know why people are raving about the sound...I hadn't heard those presets in my Stomp because they are not there... Any help anyone would be appreciated. Or please educate me as to what I don't know? Thank You in advance and Best Regards.
Hi Steve, not sure if you can help here (or respond). I have a Helix LT and I followed your instructions as closely as possible for the settings you did for the Princeton, however, it doesn't remotely sound as clean and responsive as yours. It's all a little muddy. I tried with XLRs to Headrush FRFR and directly to a KRK Rokit. Any ideas why this may be happening? I really have to boost the treble/presence in the amp setting to get to sound brighter and more like an amp.
What volume level are you listening at? Speakers really need to be cranked up sometimes to get the right sound. If its super quiet, the headrush and monitors will be muddy
@@SteveSterlacci Thank you for responding. I had the Helix LT at 10:00 o'clock and the Headrush was half way. I turned up the Helix to 3:00 oclock (roughly 3/4) and that did make a difference. Thank you!
have you change the humbuckers yet ? cortex had a update aswell ,i oovd my helix but really wanna buy cortex , cause its small , they are same price at the moment but im gonna lose some money on my helix probably sell it 1.100 or 1.200£
Cortex has not updated yet but appears to be coming in a few weeks. I did put gibson custombuckers in it and flipped the neck magnet
So where dual cabs would always be stereo and spread left and right before, the new dual cabs are centre?
You can set the pan to whatever you want 😏. Just not the method I use!
Steve have you noticed that the drive pedals sound a little more fuzzy now with the new cabs?
I noticed this! Why do you think that is?
It's adding more clarity. Which means more highend information.
@@chl3224 that's kinda what I was thinking, but not sure how to compensate for that
@@BobbyCulpepper.srv3fender
Highcut or playing with the mic position and angle.
Steve after update I had a crash and thought I has it fixed but now it seems my presets are kinda spinning dif and when I switch ftom flat mode to speaker mode my volume goes out the roof do you know how I can address this
Are they older presets or new ones? perhaps new presets using the cabs in flat mode are just a different volume?
Are you doing a giveaway steve or am I getting scammed
@@artytoney2057 scam. I am working on it thanks!
Whats the difference between 2 separate cabs and dual cab?
Soundwise, I guess (almost) none. However, it allows for two cabs to be in one single block, including panning and even delay on one cab for instance, if you want a (half) stereo, double track like effect. Not needing two seperate cab blocks which have to be on two paths, also leaves the secondary path free for other stuff like wet dry effects...
Delaying one of your two microphones does NOT take the place of early reflections (very short room like reverb). It only delays the whichever microphone's input into your signal! I use it mostly to create a wider stereo effect when I use it with panning (HAAS EFFECT!).
th-cam.com/video/sz9pZZzpxws/w-d-xo.html
Yeah that works!
I'm testing a lot with mics and positions and always come to the conclusion that off-centre or angled doesn't sound right for me .
And btw: not everyone uses the 57. My favorite is the Sennheiser 906.
Thats also a classic for a reason!
I wonder if my ears don´t work anymore but i think this presets are very dull and will not cut through the mix. Maybe the ears of an old man....🙂 Btw. i like your vids steve!
Thanks Alex! Id have to take it out and try it to be sure, but I make my presets intentionally darker when i am home because when it gets amplified through a PA system, the highs are accentuated and almost always too harsh. So after years of experience dealing with it,, this will actually work best live 😁
Why should I go with the stock amp settings to dial in the cabs? That absolutely makes no sense to me.
The stock settings mostly to far from what I want.
You can do it however you want. I prefer to do it that way so i dont have to mess with it later
The update took me 30 minutes with no probems.
Hi Steve, I don't see a lot of videos on TH-cam, geared just for HX Effects users. I think this is an untapped opportunity, waiting for some savvy TH-camr to fill that need. I only use an HX Effects with 2 Peavey Classic 20 heads in the 7 cable method, along with a stereo Peavey cab. I need someone smarter than me to show me all the possibilities, when new firmware is released. Just sayin'. :)
Thank you! I have thought about that before. A lot of videos are cross compatible aside from the amps. I will have to look more into it. I would only use it into the front end as I am not an fx loop guy 😅
I still want to add a hi cut. Is that weird?
If it sounds good to you, then no!
I think you have a wrong concept of what the delay parameter does.
It does something other than delay the cab the chosen amount of ms?
@@SteveSterlacci that seems pretty spot on 😂
Thank You
Thanks for checking it out