Great video! I received one as a gift and am now exploring videos about how other people are using them. Yours is the first one I came across when searching. Thanks for taking the time to make this!
This is awesome! I am transitioning from hobby baker to cottage food... then potentially to a commercial bakery paired with a brewery. I definitely will keep this in mind!
Thank you for sharing. I love that it is hand-cranked instead of using electricity. I have been using my Kitchenaid mixer attachment but it's too narrow. I also used the dough with measuring sticks which worked well. However, I'm so loving that sheeter. I've always used plastic wrap to roll my dough so that I didn't have to use extra flour but I never thought of putting the dough with the plastic through my sheeter. Thank you so much for sharing.
Thank you for taking your time out to show us how to use this...now I want one, just had back surgery and rolling gets to me, plus I like to make a lot of Dog cookies for all our neighbors when I can....again thank you for your post...and Peace to You and Yours..
Lisa, I'm new to your channel. And I'm new to cookie decorating. I've only been doing it about a year. Thank you for sharing this. This would've been helpful for me on Valentines Day. It takes so much time to roll the dough out and get it right. I'm going to look into purchasing one of these. Thank you so much. ☺️
Thank you. I was just telling my husband yesterday that I was not rolling dough anymore, and getting one. Since having surgery on my hands I can't roll all that dough without it hurting me.
I am going to order this machine. I think I will try using 2 silicone mats instead of the plastic wrap. I will put my dough between the two silicone mats and put it through the sheeter. Wish me luck :)
After hand-rolling 400 cookies yesterday, I really want to order one of these. I rarely ever chill my dough, though. You mentioned it’s easier to roll when it’s slightly chilled dough. How does it work for dough straight out of the mixer? I let mine rest for a bit so it firms up some, but it’s definitely not as firm as chilled dough. I’d be willing to start chilling my dough again if that’s what it takes, though. I’m totally over rolling it by hand. Thanks so much for this video. I definitely want to order one, I just want to make sure it’ll work for me before I invest!
I put it together without - it’s not too bad. Give it a try. You can also take a photo of the directions and send it through google translate on your phone, does a great job.
I don't like to roll dough naked... ever lol. It's not hard at all if your dough is room temp or slightly cold (don't let it be straight outta the fridge cold)
it will be nice if the machine have some type of wait in the bottom so it won't move when using the rolls, or maybe a rubber suction cups under the machine too.
But I love your video! Especially the dehydrator one! Thank you for taking that much time to teach us about it. Oh and on subject of that, do you leave the dehydrator door open? After watching your video, I used your Iink to buy the Cosoroi. I saw someone else said to always leave the door open when using it??? Do you?
Wow.. cost is too much for a manual roller. It will be trivial to add a motor to it. Buy an inexpensive drill with speed adjustment from a local store or Harbor Freight, roughly $20. Remove the crank (important - you don't want it swinging) and put the post the crank uses into the drill like a drill bit and tighten. Adjust the variable speed drill to the slowest speed and pull the trigger. You have just made an electric roller at a fraction of the cost of an electric model, and with far more speed control. Some models have a locking trigger if you do big jobs. A cordless would help if there is no outlet, but charging needs to be done and they cost more. You are welcome! Notes: Remember that a drill can spin fast in high speed mode, so adjust speed to the lowest and SLOWLY pull the trigger because a variable speed starts off very slow and speeds up as you pull the trigger. Be careful until you are used to it. Make sure the drill has variable speed and the trigger is variable speed. Measure the post the crank has and make sure the drill can open big enough. The most common sizes are 1/2" and 3/8". If it is too big for the drill jaw opening, use a "hole saw" that is a little bigger than the crank and attach it to create a smaller bit size that will fit your drill. Here is a 3/8" for $17.99: www.harborfreight.com/38-in-variable-speed-reversible-drill-60614.html Here is the hole saw if your crank is too big for the drill jaws. Put the proper size saw on the crank and either screw it on or duct tape it. The drill will attach to the hole saw shaft and you are in business: www.harborfreight.com/34-in-5-in-carbon-steel-hole-saw-set-18-pc-68115.html
Ok, so I have the same sheeter and I find it takes so much longer to use it then to just roll it by hand. And I have the problem with it moving around on the counter. I got it for fondant originally but it’s almost impossible to use for fondant without two people. It’s so hard to feed it and catch it and crank it at the same time. Dough is easier but just seems like it takes more time then rolling super fast, you really find it noticeably faster? I really regret buying it. And it’s so heavy
I love the shit out of this sheeter. hahah. It has reduced my rolling time by 40%!! I put a wet towel under it if it moves when you spin the handle, and find that you need to get your dough to a manageable width before feeding it through to allow it to catch and prevent the rollers from spinning aimlessly :)
it is a cost lower so if you are on budget its a steal and if you are not doing a lot of dough but who has 15K for a professional unit to do couple cookies right thank you
We kept finding we needed a folding table. This is so easy to store. th-cam.com/users/postUgkxStL0QRChBju4aQlnTrRgBZvafFog0KU3 Opening and closing is easy as well. It has a great handle for carrying around the house. Its pretty lightweight and slides around easy. We bought it for our daughter’s first sleepover. Breakfast was a blur - but 12 7-8 year olds fit at the table with room to spare. We used it at thanksgiving and 6 adults fit comfortably on each side plus 2 on either end for a total of 8. Super easy to clean up afterwards as well.
Can you say how long it takes you to roll the dough for about 120 cookies (My usual batch size is 120 cookies - 8lbs flour, 4 lbs butter, etc.) I usually get about (5) 12"x18" sheets of dough per batch and wonder if this would make for smaller sheets overall. I'm so on the fence about this purchase but hate rolling dough even with an awesome rolling pin! Wondering how much faster it would be...
@@kellytrout3707 I bake one tray at a time because that's what works for me-- it used to take the whole 10 min of baking the previous tray for me to roll and cut my dough for the next tray, now that time has reduced by about 40%. It's a huge difference in time. I have way more trays prepped now than I can bake.
@@BorderlandsBakery Thank you so much for the information! It really is all about what works for each individual isn't it? :) I so appreciate the video and the response. Wishing you all the best during this busy time of year in a most unusual year!
Great video once again! They never fail! I’ve looked at these; although I am only a home baker-hobbist cookier. QUESTION: do you know the measurement of the thickness of your dough?
Hello,. am actually looking for 1,. and gonna use it for croissant , vienoisseries nad puff pastries,. it works well, no worries ,. just when the dough coming through the machine , do not let it go directly on the table, instead roll in rolling pin for better space ,.
It works GREAT for fondant. This was originally made for Pasta but I had trouble finding rollers that rolled THICK cookie dough (up to 12mm), so this was really perfect for me ;)
Doesn’t this device have a clamp to fix it to the table? Would like to have seen you roll a ‘paton’ into butter laminated dough for croissants - without the plastic wrap.
@@mickeytwister1182 do you want her to do your shopping for you ?? They raised the price because she helped them sell out ! Anything else you want to complain about!! She isn't in charge of stocking either! ITS COMMENTS NOT COMPLAINTS ...
Can you use this machine for making phyllo dough for baklava/strudel? info provided by supplier re min. thickness seems a bit contradictory (1mm/0.5 mm/0mm)Thks in advance!
I finally pulled the trigger. I got mine this week. What a difference. My roll time went from 7 to 8 hours to 2 hours. I’ll never go back to hand roll again.
It depends, i think amazon changes the price. blog.borderlandsbakery.com/cookie-decorating-resources/how-to-use-a-tabletop-dough-sheeter-for-cut-out-cookies/
It's great for mini pies, turn over pastries. It's better electric. You need to save your hands. Stay away from the manual wooden roller, it's can cause disability on your hands. Save your hands. I make 2 turn overs for breakfast and take forever to use the wooden roller to make very thin the turn over. Turn over with cheese, or hearts of palm, ground meat. Hummm
Better than a tabletop sheeter for 3-10K. And for the time savings and physical strain reduced? Worth it alone. In comparison, this is a great option but sure, it's not for everyone.
DON'T BUY IT, if you want it for a big amount of fresh dough or fondant, you will regret it. The feeding tray is too small, so you need an extra person to help you roll out the dough. It's a waste of time and money. Until they fix that, it's not worthy, unless you need it for a small amount of hard dough like the one in the video.
It depends on your needs, doesn't it? It works great for a small production shop, but this is only an alternative to a big dough roller. This is an inbetween solution for rolling by hand vs. rolling with a few thousand dollar machine. It has saved my hundreds of hours of rolling and repetitive movement/strain on my traps, so I'll continue to recommend it for specific purposes. If you've seen my IG stories, you'll see I use quite a long strip of dough in it :)
I bought for 1000€ a second hand professional top table rolling machine and can do croissants, Danish, puff pastry with very hard and cold dough. For 600$ you better put a bit of extra money and get a proper machine.
I love how glock makes its own bb guns and how they make them look so real th-cam.com/users/postUgkxnX9wE_Q8zvF75Y5iWzTU3Q4FlrtyGApQ , the only thing is that the slide doesn't move back. The sights and the body structure is so similar to a real handgun, fits in my hand perfectly but I actually ordered it with the 40 pack of Co2 tanks and they never arrived even though it said that they handed It to me. Was not able to test the accuracy since I didn't get everything I purchased which is frustrating and that's the whole reason why I got the bundle so it arrives together. So the Co2 tank happens to be a third party so it makes no sense to put it in the bundle if it doesn't get shipped at the same time, the BB gun arrived first then the Co2 tanks were supposed to arrive someday later but didn't, which doesn't make sense. I recommend just ordering the gun itself so you don't get the same issue I ran into plus there's no option for a refund. How stupid.
Great video! I received one as a gift and am now exploring videos about how other people are using them. Yours is the first one I came across when searching. Thanks for taking the time to make this!
Glad it was helpful!
I HATE flour mess. This was awesome info - even without the rolling machine.
This is awesome! I am transitioning from hobby baker to cottage food... then potentially to a commercial bakery paired with a brewery. I definitely will keep this in mind!
Did you purchase this? How has it been for you?
Thank you for sharing. I love that it is hand-cranked instead of using electricity. I have been using my Kitchenaid mixer attachment but it's too narrow. I also used the dough with measuring sticks which worked well. However, I'm so loving that sheeter. I've always used plastic wrap to roll my dough so that I didn't have to use extra flour but I never thought of putting the dough with the plastic through my sheeter. Thank you so much for sharing.
Thank you for taking your time out to show us how to use this...now I want one, just had back surgery and rolling gets to me, plus I like to make a lot of Dog cookies for all our neighbors when I can....again thank you for your post...and Peace to You and Yours..
Lisa, I'm new to your channel. And I'm new to cookie decorating. I've only been doing it about a year. Thank you for sharing this. This would've been helpful for me on Valentines Day. It takes so much time to roll the dough out and get it right. I'm going to look into purchasing one of these. Thank you so much. ☺️
Thank you. I was just telling my husband yesterday that I was not rolling dough anymore, and getting one. Since having surgery on my hands I can't roll all that dough without it hurting me.
but you still need to spin the handle, maybe find a motorized one?
Great demonstration 👏👏😊
I am going to order this machine. I think I will try using 2 silicone mats instead of the plastic wrap. I will put my dough between the two silicone mats and put it through the sheeter. Wish me luck :)
After hand-rolling 400 cookies yesterday, I really want to order one of these. I rarely ever chill my dough, though. You mentioned it’s easier to roll when it’s slightly chilled dough. How does it work for dough straight out of the mixer? I let mine rest for a bit so it firms up some, but it’s definitely not as firm as chilled dough. I’d be willing to start chilling my dough again if that’s what it takes, though. I’m totally over rolling it by hand. Thanks so much for this video. I definitely want to order one, I just want to make sure it’ll work for me before I invest!
It works great with unchilled dough-- but I personally hate the floppiness of it, so I don't prefer that way! So you can definitely do that.
@@BorderlandsBakery how much it cost for dough sheeter?
Add a little motor and a switch to that and you'll be cookin in no time!!
would have been nice to see how it perform with freshly made dough, after all we mostly use fresh dough, but then maybe not mostly
I have this but couldn't use it because instructions are not written in the English language.Thank you .
I put it together without - it’s not too bad. Give it a try. You can also take a photo of the directions and send it through google translate on your phone, does a great job.
Thank you for sharing this! Have you experimented using the roller without plastic wrap? is the crank hard to turn at all? Thanks so much!
I don't like to roll dough naked... ever lol. It's not hard at all if your dough is room temp or slightly cold (don't let it be straight outta the fridge cold)
it will be nice if the machine have some type of wait in the bottom so it won't move when using the rolls, or maybe a rubber suction cups under the machine too.
It comes with clamps. I just choose not to use them. I usually roll with a wet towel underneath to secure.
Cool and informational demo. How does the plastic wrap not rip or snag inside the blade?
They are rollers (no sharpe edges), and I definitely make an effort to keep my plastic wrap loose to prevent it from snagging :)
What if I got this and rolled dough from a tin of Hungry Jack biscuits for making Cornish pasties?
But I love your video! Especially the dehydrator one! Thank you for taking that much time to teach us about it. Oh and on subject of that, do you leave the dehydrator door open? After watching your video, I used your Iink to buy the Cosoroi. I saw someone else said to always leave the door open when using it??? Do you?
I usually don't leave it open...there is airflow inside :)
Wow.. cost is too much for a manual roller. It will be trivial to add a motor to it. Buy an inexpensive drill with speed adjustment from a local store or Harbor Freight, roughly $20. Remove the crank (important - you don't want it swinging) and put the post the crank uses into the drill like a drill bit and tighten. Adjust the variable speed drill to the slowest speed and pull the trigger. You have just made an electric roller at a fraction of the cost of an electric model, and with far more speed control. Some models have a locking trigger if you do big jobs. A cordless would help if there is no outlet, but charging needs to be done and they cost more. You are welcome!
Notes:
Remember that a drill can spin fast in high speed mode, so adjust speed to the lowest and SLOWLY pull the trigger because a variable speed starts off very slow and speeds up as you pull the trigger. Be careful until you are used to it.
Make sure the drill has variable speed and the trigger is variable speed.
Measure the post the crank has and make sure the drill can open big enough. The most common sizes are 1/2" and 3/8". If it is too big for the drill jaw opening, use a "hole saw" that is a little bigger than the crank and attach it to create a smaller bit size that will fit your drill.
Here is a 3/8" for $17.99:
www.harborfreight.com/38-in-variable-speed-reversible-drill-60614.html
Here is the hole saw if your crank is too big for the drill jaws. Put the proper size saw on the crank and either screw it on or duct tape it. The drill will attach to the hole saw shaft and you are in business:
www.harborfreight.com/34-in-5-in-carbon-steel-hole-saw-set-18-pc-68115.html
Great machine!❤
Omg that’s so cool!
Ok, so I have the same sheeter and I find it takes so much longer to use it then to just roll it by hand. And I have the problem with it moving around on the counter. I got it for fondant originally but it’s almost impossible to use for fondant without two people. It’s so hard to feed it and catch it and crank it at the same time. Dough is easier but just seems like it takes more time then rolling super fast, you really find it noticeably faster? I really regret buying it. And it’s so heavy
I love the shit out of this sheeter. hahah. It has reduced my rolling time by 40%!! I put a wet towel under it if it moves when you spin the handle, and find that you need to get your dough to a manageable width before feeding it through to allow it to catch and prevent the rollers from spinning aimlessly :)
If you want to sell yours, i'll buy.
it is a cost lower so if you are on budget its a steal and if you are not doing a lot of dough but who has 15K for a professional unit to do couple cookies right thank you
We kept finding we needed a folding table. This is so easy to store. th-cam.com/users/postUgkxStL0QRChBju4aQlnTrRgBZvafFog0KU3 Opening and closing is easy as well. It has a great handle for carrying around the house. Its pretty lightweight and slides around easy. We bought it for our daughter’s first sleepover. Breakfast was a blur - but 12 7-8 year olds fit at the table with room to spare. We used it at thanksgiving and 6 adults fit comfortably on each side plus 2 on either end for a total of 8. Super easy to clean up afterwards as well.
Can you say how long it takes you to roll the dough for about 120 cookies (My usual batch size is 120 cookies - 8lbs flour, 4 lbs butter, etc.) I usually get about (5) 12"x18" sheets of dough per batch and wonder if this would make for smaller sheets overall. I'm so on the fence about this purchase but hate rolling dough even with an awesome rolling pin! Wondering how much faster it would be...
PS - Thank you for the video!!!! :)
@@kellytrout3707 I bake one tray at a time because that's what works for me-- it used to take the whole 10 min of baking the previous tray for me to roll and cut my dough for the next tray, now that time has reduced by about 40%. It's a huge difference in time. I have way more trays prepped now than I can bake.
@@BorderlandsBakery Thank you so much for the information! It really is all about what works for each individual isn't it? :) I so appreciate the video and the response. Wishing you all the best during this busy time of year in a most unusual year!
Great video once again! They never fail! I’ve looked at these; although I am only a home baker-hobbist cookier. QUESTION: do you know the measurement of the thickness of your dough?
I do know the thickness- -8mm for larger cookies. 3/8 inch for 9.5mm for mini cookies.
B. B. B. N.
Your Nails are everything. Are they press ons?
YES! I prefer to get them done but sometimes the press ons work OK-- I have an affiliate link for my nails in the description box :)
Do you ever use this for pastry or croissants? I have one and I'm curious about using it for that
Curious about that too! I'm about to buy one just for croissants but I'm not sure if it would work properly. Do you have any updates on it?
Hello,. am actually looking for 1,. and gonna use it for croissant , vienoisseries nad puff pastries,. it works well, no worries ,. just when the dough coming through the machine , do not let it go directly on the table, instead roll in rolling pin for better space ,.
Could you use clamps to keep the machine secure on the table?
Sure can- they come with clamps. When I roll, I put a wet towel underneath and it doesn't budge :)
Can the dough sheeter be used for fondant? Thank you for your video.
Sure can!
can this be used as a fondant sheeter?
Yas!!!! I need this! Hehe.
It's pricey ish but worth it. commercial sheeters are thousands of dollars... so I guess this is a good alternative :)
Thank you,
Can I use fondant with this machine? Thanks for the video!
It works GREAT for fondant. This was originally made for Pasta but I had trouble finding rollers that rolled THICK cookie dough (up to 12mm), so this was really perfect for me ;)
Awesome machine
can you use this for fruit pie crusts measuring 8-9 inch diameter?
Amazing
Hi, can this type of machine roll a steep dough like the pie dough? (Apple pie)
Yes, it can work for pie dough.
Can I use this pasta maker to make pies?
Yes!!
Bjr
La machine affine la pate jusqu'à 4mm?
Merci
Sylviane
Yes it can!
$600 for a manual dough sheeter is crazy. Get a Marcato Atlas pasta machine instead. Not as wide but Italian made and under $100
Doesn’t this device have a clamp to fix it to the table?
Would like to have seen you roll a ‘paton’ into butter laminated dough for croissants - without the plastic wrap.
Yes but I work in different areas and have no issues with movement with a damp towel on the bottom
Could this be used to roll puff pastry?
Don't see why not!
Have you used the roller for croissants? Thank you!
I personally have not- but having made croissants by hand in the past, it would work great.
Can it take masa dough
Depending on if the masa holds well together, yes!!
Is it wide enough for regular size pie crust?
If standard is 8 inches, yes
I could not find link to the roller
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Bonjour, Combien ça coûte ?. Je vous attends la réponse Svp merci
Details here: blog.borderlandsbakery.com/cookie-decorating-resources/how-to-use-a-tabletop-dough-sheeter-for-cut-out-cookies/
I wish this unit would clamp to a tabletop. Seeing it slide around makes me hesitate to invest in it.
It comes with a clamp. I don't use it because I don't find it worth the trouble because I move it around so much :)
@@BorderlandsBakery . Ok. I see that it weighs 60 lbs, so I don't think I'll be slinging it around too much. Lol! Thank you.
Its amazing and it's makes a consistent product..
Can you please from where can i get one
blog.borderlandsbakery.com/cookie-decorating-resources/how-to-use-a-tabletop-dough-sheeter-for-cut-out-cookies/
What brand is this roller I want to purchase thanks
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I don’t understand you paid $600.00 on Amazon and I see it’s marked $699.00! Can you explain that?
Well, this is a pretty normal thing. People change prices all the time 🤷🏻♀️- i cant control it 😩
@@BorderlandsBakery Okay, to bad it out of stock I hope I can find it.
@@mickeytwister1182 do you want her to do your shopping for you ?? They raised the price because she helped them sell out ! Anything else you want to complain about!! She isn't in charge of stocking either! ITS COMMENTS NOT COMPLAINTS ...
how thin can you get the dough?
As thin as pasta for ravioli- less than 1mm
@@BorderlandsBakery awesome thank you
Are you still using this and would you still recommend?
I absolutely am - anytime I do over 2 doz I pull this thing out, saves me so much time. I definitely still recommend.
@@BorderlandsBakery thank you 😊
Could this be used for croissant lamination?
Yes, you can!
Can you use this machine for making phyllo dough for baklava/strudel? info provided by supplier re min. thickness seems a bit contradictory (1mm/0.5 mm/0mm)Thks in advance!
I am interested in knowing this as well.
What thickness do you usually roll your sugar cookies?
Will this machine handle pie crust?
Absolutely!
TY. I’ll definitely be investing in this machine. I make around 200 pies a week and this looks like a lifesaver. TY for the video as well.
I finally pulled the trigger. I got mine this week. What a difference. My roll time went from 7 to 8 hours to 2 hours. I’ll never go back to hand roll again.
I’m considering getting this for pie dough, is it still working great for you?
cool
Were can I get this machine
Linked here blog.borderlandsbakery.com/cookie-decorating-resources/how-to-use-a-tabletop-dough-sheeter-for-cut-out-cookies/
Where can I get the dough Roller?
What brand and model is it?
I want this machine how can I contact you
What is the inside width of the sheeter?
Hi, the exact dimensions are in the product description: amzn.to/3cOqcsj
Thank you for sharing! I was looking into a sheeter and this seems perfect!
Hermosa, hermosa, hermosa.
plastic wrap isn't recyclable, unfortunately. You can put it in the recycle, but then it gets thrown away at the recycle facility.
Where can I buy one please ?
What brand and model #. ????
200 cookies is to send out and family? i make a whole lot more just to eat.
Slm ben bir tane almak istiyorum nasil nerden alabilirim adres verebilirmisiniz
Can this be used for fondant?
Sure can! It was originally designed for pasta :)
How much?
It depends, i think amazon changes the price. blog.borderlandsbakery.com/cookie-decorating-resources/how-to-use-a-tabletop-dough-sheeter-for-cut-out-cookies/
Mounting to the table makes all the difference, just saying.
Can i uesd for donut
Not sure honestly! Never tried.
lol rinse off the plastic wrap. Just use new wrap...that's ridiculous.
Maybe she is conscious of not producing too much of plastic waste
Pls Aw much is it
It's great for mini pies, turn over pastries. It's better electric. You need to save your hands. Stay away from the manual wooden roller, it's can cause disability on your hands. Save your hands. I make 2 turn overs for breakfast and take forever to use the wooden roller to make very thin the turn over. Turn over with cheese, or hearts of palm, ground meat. Hummm
?????? You paid how much for a hand-crank sheeter?! LMAO!
Better than a tabletop sheeter for 3-10K. And for the time savings and physical strain reduced? Worth it alone. In comparison, this is a great option but sure, it's not for everyone.
DON'T BUY IT, if you want it for a big amount of fresh dough or fondant, you will regret it. The feeding tray is too small, so you need an extra person to help you roll out the dough. It's a waste of time and money. Until they fix that, it's not worthy, unless you need it for a small amount of hard dough like the one in the video.
It depends on your needs, doesn't it? It works great for a small production shop, but this is only an alternative to a big dough roller. This is an inbetween solution for rolling by hand vs. rolling with a few thousand dollar machine. It has saved my hundreds of hours of rolling and repetitive movement/strain on my traps, so I'll continue to recommend it for specific purposes. If you've seen my IG stories, you'll see I use quite a long strip of dough in it :)
So basically it's useless for rolling regular size pie crust?
I bought for 1000€ a second hand professional top table rolling machine and can do croissants, Danish, puff pastry with very hard and cold dough.
For 600$ you better put a bit of extra money and get a proper machine.
Omg get to it skip skip skip 2 hours half through nothing....next!
I love how glock makes its own bb guns and how they make them look so real th-cam.com/users/postUgkxnX9wE_Q8zvF75Y5iWzTU3Q4FlrtyGApQ , the only thing is that the slide doesn't move back. The sights and the body structure is so similar to a real handgun, fits in my hand perfectly but I actually ordered it with the 40 pack of Co2 tanks and they never arrived even though it said that they handed It to me. Was not able to test the accuracy since I didn't get everything I purchased which is frustrating and that's the whole reason why I got the bundle so it arrives together. So the Co2 tank happens to be a third party so it makes no sense to put it in the bundle if it doesn't get shipped at the same time, the BB gun arrived first then the Co2 tanks were supposed to arrive someday later but didn't, which doesn't make sense. I recommend just ordering the gun itself so you don't get the same issue I ran into plus there's no option for a refund. How stupid.