Wooly, I tinker in firewood on a small scale. Last fall my arborist brought me two different trees Maple and Yellow Birch. I bucked, split and stacked it with my Fiskars splitting implements. It came to 2 face cord. My next-door neighbor bought it from me for $150. Here in upstate New York its $75 a face cord. I've sold Silver Maple and Cherry in the past. The most I've sold in one Fall season is six face cord of Cherry. I used to sell it for $60- 65 a cord. $75 is or than reasonable with inflation. I split and stack everything by hand, no hydraulic splitter. I'll limb and buck it with my Husqvarna saws depending on if it's in my patch of woods or given to me. I'm not a commercial seller, it's more of helping people and pride. A lot of work by hand but that's how I like it. I'll load it in my pickup and help stack it.
I'm on my first winter foraging firewood in UK for next season after 5-6 years of the big pallets of kiln dried hardwoods - I would NEVER buy a builders bag in more so after splitting my own rounds and seeing how the volume fills a bag - I've got the time and its fun and all in it's saved maybe £750 (what we'd spend on a couple of xl hardwood pallet loads) and I've had a hell of a workout and aquired new knowledge and skills and I'm pretty much stocked for next winter already
Here in Vermont, firewood is typically sold by the cord. This is 8ft X 4ft X 4ft to equal 128 cubic feet. Current price is about $375-$450 per cord for dry wood. Prices are getting pretty crazy.
A full cord is 128 cubic feet. The tonne bag runs something like 33"*33*43 which comes to 30 cubic feet. So four tonne bags would come to just a little shy of a full cord. Face cord is half a cord, so just over two tonne bags.
Good man Wooly! Another way to look at it is that a cord is 3.6 cubic meters. Here in Norway wood is often sold by the “ favn” which is 2.4 cubic meters! ( 40x 60 liter sacks)
I am in England and we used to sell logs by the tonne bag but since then we have started selling them by the cubic metre because it means we can throw the logs in freehand and we don't need a loader to put the bag into the truck/trailer.
But there are 2 sizes of ' ton builders bag' 850 x 850 and 950 x 950, you can also get a nylon 'mosquito' bag which stretch out to nearly 1200 x 1200 (4ft cubed) .
It might change in various States of Australia, but last time I looked, weight was the legislated measurement of firewood in my bit of the country. This of course, has lately given rise to the "cubic tonne" of measurement by many suppliers who will sell you a bag, similar to the one that you're using. To my knowledge, firewood sales are not closely monitored for compliance hereabouts. Seventy something years ago when I was a kid, for a time, our chief means of heating water was in a wood fired copper (boiler). I remember the old fuel merchant weighing our wood on a giant set of railway scales, I guess to the letter of the law of the day. Spoiler..the wood was always wet when we got it and needed to dry out for a couple of weeks. No idea why he wouldn't just increase the price by a couple of pennies (then) instead of soaking it. 😅😅😅
@@WoolysWorld do you remember when we were doing that “kindness/ pay it forward “ challenge? An I loaded my truck up with wood for a veteran in need? Well that one load was 1 1/4 face cord of wood after I restacked the bed of the truck! And I had delivered and stacked it at his location! So just because something looks full doesn’t mean it is! First toss in was less than 1/3 cord, so I decided to see how much would fit in the back of that little truck, and after reloading the truck, I was able to fit another 1/4 cord of wood, and still had some suspension left for the drive!
What length do you cut your rounds of wood to? Most of our customers request 10 to 12 inch pieces so compared with Americans we are doing alot more bucking.
And now the question of questions: is that "ton" realy one metric ton? bc the way it was "stuffed" it sure had lots of empty volume in it..? also: good boy bruno - watching the master doing his thing.
@@WoolysWorld wenn my dad took me to get one of these back in the day, i wondered about the way the bag was filled, asked the seller (owner of that part of the wood) "what about the empty space", he said "well fill it right, pay one bag" - dad looked at me, went to the car getting some working-gloves (his and my hands were weak due to officechair-duty), and we started working. we almost double-filled the bag in the end... but the seller stood to his word (and we tipped him off, too, we weren't a-holes ;)
I think you are lucky to get 0.6 cubic metres in a standard builders bag. I don't sell much wood but I want £115 for a measured cubic metre not a bag or a loose load, which is pretty cheap. So many people in the UK get ripped off buying wood in builders' bags.
I agree a builders bag is nearer 0.6m but a proper 1 tonne bag (in which you might get 850kg of aggregate and some water) is nearer 1 cubic meter. Here (Somerset) they are £95 and £130 respectively. Although I use an internationally unrecognised standard measure of a wheelbarrow load because 4 of them fit down the sides of my inglenook. When really cold this lasts about a week.
Wooly, I tinker in firewood on a small scale. Last fall my arborist brought me two different trees Maple and Yellow Birch. I bucked, split and stacked it with my Fiskars splitting implements. It came to 2 face cord. My next-door neighbor bought it from me for $150. Here in upstate New York its $75 a face cord. I've sold Silver Maple and Cherry in the past. The most I've sold in one Fall season is six face cord of Cherry. I used to sell it for $60- 65 a cord. $75 is or than reasonable with inflation. I split and stack everything by hand, no hydraulic splitter. I'll limb and buck it with my Husqvarna saws depending on if it's in my patch of woods or given to me. I'm not a commercial seller, it's more of helping people and pride. A lot of work by hand but that's how I like it. I'll load it in my pickup and help stack it.
Great comment, cheers buddy
I'm on my first winter foraging firewood in UK for next season after 5-6 years of the big pallets of kiln dried hardwoods - I would NEVER buy a builders bag in more so after splitting my own rounds and seeing how the volume fills a bag - I've got the time and its fun and all in it's saved maybe £750 (what we'd spend on a couple of xl hardwood pallet loads) and I've had a hell of a workout and aquired new knowledge and skills and I'm pretty much stocked for next winter already
Excellent stuff, I completely agree
Here in Vermont, firewood is typically sold by the cord. This is 8ft X 4ft X 4ft to equal 128 cubic feet. Current price is about $375-$450 per cord for dry wood. Prices are getting pretty crazy.
Crazy money
You think that's bad, I see face cords in Texas for $300-$400!
A full cord is 128 cubic feet. The tonne bag runs something like 33"*33*43 which comes to 30 cubic feet. So four tonne bags would come to just a little shy of a full cord. Face cord is half a cord, so just over two tonne bags.
Cheers buddy
Good man Wooly! Another way to look at it is that a cord is 3.6 cubic meters.
Here in Norway wood is often sold by the “ favn” which is 2.4 cubic meters! ( 40x 60 liter sacks)
Nice one
Looks like it is 12” logs therefore as the us cut 16” pieces it can’t be a half face cord
Yes, I know
I am in England and we used to sell logs by the tonne bag but since then we have started selling them by the cubic metre because it means we can throw the logs in freehand and we don't need a loader to put the bag into the truck/trailer.
How much is a cubic metre
@@WoolysWorld a meter, cubed. Did you mean what price for a cubic metre? ;)
Yes
But there are 2 sizes of ' ton builders bag' 850 x 850 and 950 x 950, you can also get a nylon 'mosquito' bag which stretch out to nearly 1200 x 1200 (4ft cubed) .
I didn't know that, this one is the most common one I see sold round these parts
Just bought a 1 ton bag in Cyprus, just a little short of full,however just under 1m3,they sell crates here 1m3. Cost of €245,
The bag was €150,
So expensive
Not alot! 😂😂😂
Not at all
It might change in various States of Australia, but last time I looked, weight was the legislated measurement of firewood in my bit of the country. This of course, has lately given rise to the "cubic tonne" of measurement by many suppliers who will sell you a bag, similar to the one that you're using. To my knowledge, firewood sales are not closely monitored for compliance hereabouts. Seventy something years ago when I was a kid, for a time, our chief means of heating water was in a wood fired copper (boiler). I remember the old fuel merchant weighing our wood on a giant set of railway scales, I guess to the letter of the law of the day. Spoiler..the wood was always wet when we got it and needed to dry out for a couple of weeks. No idea why he wouldn't just increase the price by a couple of pennies (then) instead of soaking it. 😅😅😅
Nothing legalised here
Yup, weight is a terrible way to sell wood unless the moisture content is also regulated. Green wood weighs way more than seasoned and dry wood.
@bobbygetsbanned6049 agreed
Looks like a 1/2 face cord
Close
@@WoolysWorld do you remember when we were doing that “kindness/ pay it forward “ challenge? An I loaded my truck up with wood for a veteran in need? Well that one load was 1 1/4 face cord of wood after I restacked the bed of the truck! And I had delivered and stacked it at his location! So just because something looks full doesn’t mean it is!
First toss in was less than 1/3 cord, so I decided to see how much would fit in the back of that little truck, and after reloading the truck, I was able to fit another 1/4 cord of wood, and still had some suspension left for the drive!
@thesmallwoodlot433 nice, suspension is overrated
@ just as much as the frames of a Toyota 😂😂😂 over rated!
@thesmallwoodlot433 lol
You think this is expensive? Here in Texas they sell a FACE cord for over $400! No idea why anyone would pay that, I sure as hell don't.
That's crazy
Stihl frosty
Good man Bud
What length do you cut your rounds of wood to?
Most of our customers request 10 to 12 inch pieces so compared with Americans we are doing alot more bucking.
Me personally, 16 inch at least , but for my mother 12 inch max
And now the question of questions: is that "ton" realy one metric ton? bc the way it was "stuffed" it sure had lots of empty volume in it..?
also: good boy bruno - watching the master doing his thing.
Tonne bag , no idea what it weighs, this is the common way they sell it , in one of these bags
@@WoolysWorld wenn my dad took me to get one of these back in the day, i wondered about the way the bag was filled, asked the seller (owner of that part of the wood) "what about the empty space", he said "well fill it right, pay one bag" - dad looked at me, went to the car getting some working-gloves (his and my hands were weak due to officechair-duty), and we started working. we almost double-filled the bag in the end... but the seller stood to his word (and we tipped him off, too, we weren't a-holes ;)
@michaelkeller5008 very cool
I think you are lucky to get 0.6 cubic metres in a standard builders bag. I don't sell much wood but I want £115 for a measured cubic metre not a bag or a loose load, which is pretty cheap. So many people in the UK get ripped off buying wood in builders' bags.
I agree a builders bag is nearer 0.6m but a proper 1 tonne bag (in which you might get 850kg of aggregate and some water) is nearer 1 cubic meter. Here (Somerset) they are £95 and £130 respectively. Although I use an internationally unrecognised standard measure of a wheelbarrow load because 4 of them fit down the sides of my inglenook. When really cold this lasts about a week.
@timbanwell1756 lol, wheelbarrow is a good measurement, 1 wheel barrow= 1 week or normal burning in my house