'They Don't Have Any Power' - The Real Reason Fighters Don't Get Paid
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 พ.ค. 2022
- Patrick Bet-David Podcast Episode 154. In this short clip, Georges St-Pierre discusses his thoughts on fighter pay and performance enhancing drugs.
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George is an all around, awesome and genuine guy.
Real rap 💯 he too real lol
How do you know? You know his professional fighting persona. That’s it. You have no clue who he is.
@@tiffanysmith1465 Yeah. I’ve actually met him a few times in Vegas during his Matt Hughes rivalry days. Cool dude. The way he interacted with me is on par with this interview. Nice try on being a dbag though 👍
Also add decent councellor to that!!!
Best pay him respect by spelling his name correctly then!
I like a legend who also considered that luck played some part in their story. He is balanced and no narcissism at all.
It’s incredible. I was just about to comment that too. Possibly the best to have ever done that, say he got very lucky
He knows he was skilled enough abs hard working enough. We know that too. But he still acknowledges the arbitrary nature of life and fate
Exactly. Every legend and icon has had incredible luck. Imagine Tyson without damato or Jordan without Phil
It's a key point that he mentions his ACL injury and how fortunate the timing of it was. Injuries are rampant in MMA (and all sports), many fighters on the rise have been derailed by them, while the fans have no idea.
GSP's acknowledgement of the stars aligning is probably why he decided to retire when he did, which was excellent timing.
@@bobbye4731luck is when preparation meets opportunity. If you haven’t prepared, all the “luck” in the world will only be opportunities you cannot capitalize on.
So calling it luck is worthless, because realistically all it actually is is incredible opportunities. And if these guys we’re properly prepared for that opportunity, then they become famous, and bitches like you will call all their hard work “luck” for the rest of time.
Every time I hear GSP speak I like him even more. Not only a great fighter but also a great person.
Strictly as a fight fan, I did not like him much back in the day. As a practitioner and from the perspective of the fight business, Im a huge fan.
Just a credit to the sport. Another example of true greatness.
Patrick’s vernacular changes when speaking with GSP 😂
This is one of the best advices you can get. George doesn't even say he's one of the best. He was saying that everything was aligned for him to be able to get where he was at. For the ppl that gets it. Man this was deep.
GSP is an amazing guy. He's like a "Hero" of UFC, as apposed to the majority of "Villain" characters there are now.
🇨🇦 🍁 🇨🇦!
Yeah. Most fighters, both male and female now want to be seen as BMF's, loud gangsters and hard-core instead of being classy and don't care about what type of language they are using. While GSP is a classy man with proper etiquettes and eloquent speaking style. He is like Captain America or Superman.
Ya, GSP is one of the few guys is so beloved in the UFC for being the good guy. He had a charisma and intelligence about him, without having to make an ass of himself. He was the total package.
Same for Khabib. It cool that they have so much respect for each other too!
He was a villain dressed as a hero..He occassioanlyy cheated in his fights. He was protected by the UFC.
There was a reason why GSP vs Silva never happened. There is a reason why he fought Bisping.
He is smart but he is no way a hero. Captain America beat his ass once
The true GOAT of MMA. Not just inside the octagon but outside too. He didn't need to take PED's to perform well. Just hard work & dedication that made him so great.
🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂
He was on the juice, but everything else you are right about
Everything GSP is saying is spot on and all done by design by Daddy Dana who didn't want fighters having any power .💯
Can't help but like and respect him, and good advice on top of it. He has his head on straight. Much respect 🙏
Charles Barkley, said something similar. He went to poor schools and majority of the kids want to be pro athletes, rich schools the minority wanted to be athletes. Chuck said the poor kids have a higher likelihood of being a doctors, than athletes. He said he was just one of the few who were able to be a successful athlete.
It was black and white schools if I remember correctly - black kids 80% wanted to be athletes, white very small
Chuck said poor kids more likely to be doctors?? What complete nonsense. You realise how expensive med school is? There a very few working class doctors
@@micahbodha6129 so if I wanted to be a doctor, I couldn't? Of course not. Ben Carson didn't have rich parents.
@@micahbodha6129 you think it's easier to get into the NBA than become a dr?
@MrBboimazter being a bench player in the NBA is harder in terms of exclusivity and competition than being the top neurosurgeon in California. You also get paid more.
so genuine... so freakingly genuine george is!!!
George is an all around real on this and telling everyone the truth of the situation. Respect
What about my dreams?
That part at the end is spot on.
When *GSP* stepped away from school when he got his first title shot I was hoping he'd continue that story because he lost that first title fight against *Matt Hughes.* What made him not go back to school, keep fighting & training like he was before the title shot
because he has riddum.
He was winning that fight and made a mistake. He knew he could beat Matt and become a champion after that loss.
@@Staticseven1 Justin was winning the fight over the weekend got knocked down & then made a mistake & got caught too that's part of the game.
@@CaddyJim yeah, i thought olivera would win. He has heart a chin and justin is no match on the ground
@@CaddyJim olivera's striking and power is underrated
My favorite fighter of all time. Not just because of his fighting but his humility and just seems like an all around descent man.
You can’t not love GSP, good man
The GOAT has endless wisdom. Always love hearing his interviews
Gsp is the closest thing to perfect fighter 💯 true legend in and outside of the ring
this channel deserves way more views
They have multiple channels so technically to do have many more views. I think they have three to five different channels now. Some of the most amazing interviews. Many need to be seen by every American citizen
🇺🇸💪🏻👊🏻🤙🏼
What an absolute legend this is the best GSP clip I've ever seen
This guy was the best of the best and it's great to see him getting the Respect worldwide and winning almost every goat vote there is.
Absolutely Brilliant MAN!! Thank You!! And May God Bless You Good Sir.
great advice about school, a coach told me the same in 8th grade, best advice ever!
The Reebok deal screwed over a lot of fighters and now the UFC is making even more money than ever but fighters are making less.
Mark hunt said he was getting paid almost $1,000,0000 to fight back in 2013 , where as Francis only earned $600 k to defend he’s title as champ.
Agreed, let the damn fighters have their own sponsors
600k is his purse he made a lot more from ppv points.
There's lots of variables.
There's a lot more fighters now that want lots of money.
The company that paid 4.4 billion for ufc need to make there money back also
@@djd770 yes 🙌 but that was just to fight still shit Money 💴 hunt was making a mill not including ppv
Very wise man. Good stuff.
George keepin it real the world listens to the stories of the successful because they have a voice but we don't hear stories of people who don't make it because they don't have a voice and we don't want want to listen to stories of the unsuccessful
*Sean Strickland enters the chat*
Very humble dude and great advice
Awesome, it's so amazing to listen to him being so grounded with such massive achievements. And a very practical advice as well, follow your dreams but have a backup plan for sure, you never know when a car hits you and you end up in bed or a punch on head changes your reflexes
I've done somewhat ok in business , not crazy well but ok, and what he said is true .. you need to be lucky and everything needs to be aligned .. lots of people are smart , lots of people are dam good at what they do , not everyone is lucky were everything aligns at just the right time ... Your a legend GSP for not saying it's only my hard work that did it cause it's not .. khabib kinda puts it the same way , except that instead of luck he considers it blessing from god ... You always need that little bit of luck or that blessing to make it to the top or even to achieve some level of success that is uncommon ..
So much wisdom here...the Philosophy of GSP 💯💯💯
Georges is a man's man. He's the kind of people I surround myself with.
3:13 I've said it for years.
"Where there's money, there's corruption"
It was the same thing Khabib said during his hall of fame speech, bu then from the point of view of a believer( not saying that George isn’t one): he said that there are so many people that are talented but don’t make it but you did…don’t think because you worked hars for it or smth like that, there are millions of people that work harder than you probably, it’s all because God made it possible for you. Like George said only in other words: the path was opened for me, I was lucky. You should think about this.
It's one of the annoying things that bro podcasts constantly talk about.
Like sure...some of the advice they give is good advice for success...anyone can achieve these things, but not everyone can
Favourite athlete inside and outside of sports, amazing person ,incredible fighter.GOAT.
I'm glad Jorge is humble enough to recognize just how lucky he is. He said he work hard, but everything was a line for him. I think what he means is, the other guys that didn't make it, they work just as hard, but they just had different paths. Sure some didn't work as hard as him. But there are many who work just as hard and we're in the wrong era so didn't make any money or never got the opportunity.
He got the title shot pretty early too I think the third fight..khabib fought so many fights to finally get the title fight..
George
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It's actually Georges 👍
@@mmafyasco correct🇨🇦
But how is it pronounced tho?
Love listening to him. Realistic in all sense. Only .001% make to that level so enjoy being what you are
My understanding is that, top UFC fighters get paid much less than boxers but, the lower tier fighters on UFC contracts get paid much more then lower tier fighters in other sports, to ensure a future crop.
They also pay 'feeder' organizations. If you see any clips from smaller organizations you'll most likely see the 'UFC fightpass' banner on the canvas. I would hope, some of this money they pay to have content on their streaming service, gets to the up and coming fighters.
I think the UFC operates much more like a league rather then just a fight promoter.
Man , this guy's opinions resonates so much with mine
This is why GSP is one a Hall of Famer. One of the most intelligent fighter who can control the fight like what he wanted to. More like Khabib. Very clever on & off the cage.
Actually he is totally right no wonder some of the athlete tried to balance their passion even they are at the top they are still doing their studies. Perfect example is the Portuguese MotoGP rider Miguel Oliveira who has finished his course & actually licensed Dentist at the moment. Although he can practice it because he is trying to compete at the top level. That goes to show that it's possible. Also the former MotoGP rider Karel Abraham who has finished Law School as a business Atty.
Not a bug fan of UFC but thus guys is literally a good hearted guy with truth... like Kevin oliery lol
Our champ ,the greatest of all time . Vive le Quebec ! Legend. Gentlemen. Class. He is our national fighting M .J.
There's so many fighters also and that gives the ufc power to control the fighters as well. They can just replace every prospect with a new prospect!
Amen to that;) Education = Good insurance… always pays to invest in gray matter;)
Amen
This why UFC's best era was still during the MMA explosion starting around Rampage beating Chuck for the belt and ended when GSP retired.
Fighters don't need to worry about keeping the organization afloat. Also they do not bear the risk if the company goes down.
Real talk.
GSP is the king inside and outside Arena , he’s just beautiful energy to be around. Enjoy your time my brother
I don't know that we've ever had a champion as classy as this bloke before
Him and Khabib are solid
He is love man ❤️ goat inside and outside, very intelligent 🙏
The odds are against you.... Wise words George. Think about that when you see all these betting apps being advertised as well.
George is very intelligent man
GSP the octagon legend 🙌👏👏👏
Lorenzo said in an interview that he was most they ever paid a fighter during that time and it was 5million a fight
Legend
I love GSP
I love how he pronounces school 😄❤️
Fighters gotta get along thought if they want à union
George's insurance was his Superman punch...
Simply the goat you know what i mean!
People seem to forget back before Dana White fighters were getting the shit kicked out of themselves in unregulated matches for $50 and some free beer after the fight. Everybody is so worried about what UFC fighters make, it's bizarre.
I agree!
GSP is a very realistic dude.
legend
GSP is good dude.
The way that guy said Ngannou..
I think the problem is that Everything is going well for Dana white. Whatever you think about Logan Paul he is showing that fighters can make more without ufc.
George speaks the best English for a second language dude iv ever heard
His accent is sooo cute.
School is good for the degree, but find what you love, and want to do and then go into that. Finding what you want to do is the key.
I love George! I think he is off about the PPV share now though.....
Do you know what he means?
Who would have thought that Batroc from The Winter Soldier was such a great guy 😉
GSP vs Anderson Silva was the super fight that never happened
I was hopiing for this one, but I think each camp want to protect themselves from the loss that it didn't materialize
Wise words from the wise.
Hilarious. Asking his parents permission to train for a title fight.😂
When George mentions PEDs Michael Chandler pops up immediately in my mind. That dude is juicing 💯
Men don't run around talking shit about other men without proof. ...well, back in GSP days. Now I should ofcourse say, - I am sorry I assumed your gender
@@devstuff2576 Lol the proof is in his distended gut and many other signs of PED abuse.
Men talk a lot watch Chaels latest vid on PED abuse
like I said, sorry I presumed you are a man
GSP the goat of UFC
07:00 GSP dissing Matt Hughes
The only few fighters that earn real money currently are Cornor mcgregor, Israel Adesanya, Jorge Masvidal and Kamaru Usman.
The other fighters only get paid well when they fight Cornor
Covington ?
i once met georges at an airport in montreal in like 2004 i was 14 or maybe 2005 and i was 15, we were all standing in line and i just lift my heads up and on the next row behind me, there he was, tha baddest man on the planet, im 31 years old now and ill always remember that moment, i was a little fuck and i asked my father out loud;
HEY DAD! IS THAT HIM??! IS THAT GEORGE ST PIERRE?!?!? my brother went nuts hes 2 yeasr older than me and he couldnt believe it so my father looks him straight into his eyes and georges knew hed have to sign autographs and shit, back in the day no one knew who gsp was in canada, my father said yes, yes son thats him, we had the conversatipon in french and george understood every single words, my father said; please dont bother him, youve already made everyone aware that hes in the airport so just leave him be.
14 years old and i was in freakin awe and i listen to my father, i was just shooked, georges just smiled at me and my brother and shook our hands (and the 100+ people after me who werent as respectful), hes just such a great human being.
looking back i wished my eyes didnt catched him in the waiting line because no one else knew he was there or who he was before i screamed like a 14 years old lmao.
I'll never understand autographs in general. Such a weird concept
They still have points of PPV
I thought he said something else when he said negotiation 1:44
GOAT GSP(!)
Don’t champions still get PPV points ?
Usman on fucking major gear, Francis too, prolly 99% of Ufc lol
Olivera would have lost over 2 million on the PPV portion of his contract if Dana had not agreed to overlook that he was not technically champ.
So I think the champ still gets PPV points.
Nope, he lost that 2 million with the belt.
@@wasupfool5692 Maybe, that is not what Dana said in the post fight press conference.
Dana said he still gets the PPV points for this one.
yeah dana just said that olivera will make ppv points as the champion even if he was stripped from the belt. but cant wait til he fights islam, khabib friend
they should want to keep Charles happy, he is becoming a star.
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Please stop interrupting your guests David! Let them finish their thought!🙏
GSP will always be number one in my opinion, but fighter pay is like anything when you get a job you accept a salary or rate of pay, in UFC you sign a fight deal, win loose ect, its on the individual to make that deal and dont complain about it after fact , go out there and win make a statement get what you deserve or just shut up and accept it
GSP is the greatest champion the sport has ever seen.
"no no I did a LOT more" 😂
Leave it to Adam to ask a question after its already been answered 🤣
Fighters definitely get PPV points. Champs and fighters like Masvidal have negotiated for them.
Many people like to compare ufc pay to nba or nfl pay. But lets be honest, i would say theres alot of over pay in sports. I think these guys deserve good pay for sure but i kinda agree with the idea that the biggest stars and biggest draws deserve more money than the rest
Georges Saint-Pierre to me from the beginning seem like a friendly guy I don't know why. I have a strange feeling nobody believe me all along he doesn't like to hurt people. Got2b the money
Unfortunately there's no guarantees with school either
You know what I mean?
My take is they made more back in the day bc there was other places fighters could go and make similar money now the ufc is the biggest mma company they don’t have really any competition
I think they made more with outside sponsors rather than competition.
no matter of how good fighter you are, you have to stand out like big time. You either have to be Conor Mcgregor or you fight good asf and not boring and have a characteristic/personality.
bunch of crap. gsp, khabib, jon jones all are huge stars and multi milioners because they was great fighters. look at bisping lost his eye and didnt get rewarded for it and he was never in a boring fight. same with tony ferguson who have huge personality but nobody gives a fuck about him. conor was great fighter coming up and now he is washed up
@@jesuskofi1664 thats the thing, these guys stand out. read my comments again. you have to "STAND OUT" and these guys stands out.
@@assassin7250 agreed....you need to have the 'it' factor or 'star' quality about your personality to stand out in order to attract the casuals, other celebrities and for the UFC to care about you. Being a journeymen or just another cookie cutter fighter won't get you paid fairly by the UFC brass.
GSP is full of it on this topic. Fighters will never advance as long as fighters like GSP don't tell exactly how much they made. he talks vaguely about pay but he can easily state exactly how many millions he made on the Bisping fight. But evcen here when the door was opened he sidestepped away from disclosure.