Some info I found out about the film: • The producers turned down Wes Craven's idea for the film as they thought it was 'illogical' • They started filming before they had a director • They were trying to show Freddy in a more heroic light and believed the audience would be cheering him on Proof there's always been producers working in Hollywood who didn't have a clue what they were doing
@@SumDumGy No he was always meant to be a diddler. It's heavily implied in the first one. It's just it was considered a little too tasteless and unsavoury for a 1980s movie with a full theater release. Especially since Nightmare 1 very much was the last nail in the coffin for the exploitation cinema scene which WOULD have just outright stated something like that. This is also why it'll get heavily hinted at in later films and the remake as well. It was always the intent.
@@c-puff There’s nothing in any of the films until a newspaper headline in part 5 that even suggests he was more than a child murderer. I’m rewatching them all right now. There’s not even a hint of an implication beyond that one reference up through the sixth film.
Nah thats how they beat Freddy in the new reboot. They trick him into going into Boogie's dreams which makes Freddy realize his degeneracy and torture cant measure up to Boogie's depravity.
In the 80s it goes without saying if you're wearing a leather jacket you *probably* know Karate, just like how if you're clearly a beautiful woman, nobody will even notice as long as you're wearing glasses.
As ridiculous as these movies are, it cannot be understated that they were a colossal success for New Line Cinema, earning them the nickname "The House that Freddy Built". So in a sense, we owe a little thanks to Freddy. Without him, we wouldn't have gotten one of the best possible adaptations for The Lord of the Rings.
I feel like they could have explained away Freddy's resurrection by having a news report saying that the junkyard was doing earthworks clearing ground and accidentally dug up skeletal remains. If they disturbed Freddy's impromptu grave, thus ruining the consecrated ground, it would be more believable than firey dog piss. But it would also be much less fun.
At least I'm no longer concerned that my dog has a firey piss stream. Now, on a connected matter, should dog poop explode when it hits the ground?.......
Or how about some dumb kids or whatever accidentally disturb his resting ground and dig him up, then that goes on so that the kids who messed with the grave are hunted, and one of them has to fight back (the leader or the one who objected to said messing of the grave). Make it so Freddy can't ness with those who beat him (Nancy was saved because she "beat" him, or at least survived). I fucking hate this movie because it just destroys the previous one, eben more because it was the one movie that actually was good. They made Nancy die for nothing.
If fear is what keeps him alive, I imagine he just chases them around like “I’m gonna get ya. I’m gonna get ya” then when the person wakes up, they tell other people and more become aware of him.
@@Electroid5yeah he would fear them because they would probably show up at inopportune times: Freddy is on the can dropping a cleveland dreamer and suddenly narcoleptic Ned stumbles in unannounced.
It wouldn't have been hard to have the dog revive Freddy, just dig up the bones. Boom. No longer buried in hallowed ground. Seriously, what were they thinking.
It was kind of refreshing in 3 that there were multiple survivors among Freddy's targets who would have just been kill-fodder in 99% of other slasher movies. Hack writers tend to think that you get automatic tension if you whittle down the cast to one person (or two, if there's a love interest), but knowing exactly who's going to live or die from the getgo is the opposite of tension. This is even more valuable in a sequel-reliant franchise, because without a story worth following or characters worth investing in you're not making a movie as much as you're making a WatchMojo Top Kills compilation that takes 2 hours to watch. So naturally I was overjoyed when the first two kills of this movie were both boring _and_ offing two surviving characters from the last film. Incidentally, that's another hack writer technique for horror movie sequels: killing surviving protagonists from the previous installment early in the new one in a desperate attempt to make the stakes look higher.
They add stuff to the lore later on where Freddy doesn't really actually die, he just becomes powerless because nobody's afraid of him because nobody's thinking about him, so he needs to come up with ways to get back into people's heads and dreams, but that's way later. Or maybe I'm doing a head canon, because it's been 15 years since I've watched this series.
I will never understand why they brought the characters back from the third film just to kill them off in the first 30 min and restart from scratch, why not just BEGIN with the new cast.
It's a crutch for hack writers working on horror movie sequels. They bring back survivors from the last movie, kill them early on, and then desperately hope that this tricks the audience into thinking that the stakes are higher now. This movie did it, Friday the 13th did it, Halloween did it, Aliens did it, Jaws did it, The Hills Have Eyes did it, Maniac Cop did it...there are plenty more, but that's just off the top of my head.
I was reading Yahtzee's website before he made TH-cam videos. Here's what he had to say about Freddy's return in this movie back in the early 2000s: "A dog in someone's dream pissing fire onto Freddy's long-forgotten corpse. I wish I could say I was kidding, I really do, as I like to think I could make something like that up."
Unless Freddy is afraid of being caught by dream police, he has no reason to try and make their deaths look like an accident. I'd wanna make sure the parents who set me on fire knew it was me.
I conceptually like how they defeated Freddy in this film with his former victims ripping him apart from the inside out, it feels like a good final defeat for him ruined by the need for sequels and the last minute bullshit ass pull mechanisms. Cool visual though.
Producer: "So, have you figured out how to bring Freddy back?" Writer: "Yes, sir, here are some ideas." Producer: "These ideas are all flaming dog piss." Writer: "Flaming dog piss... THAT'S BRILLIANT!!!"
I was the result of a 100 madmen grapeing a nun. I was burnt to death for murdering kids only to come back as a dream demon only then to be cast out by christ but luckily a dog pissed on my remains so once again I roam the dream halls. Well it's one hell of a story to place on your job application
from what i guess, freddy was laid to rest by creating hallowed ground around his corpse and praying for him to pass, so since the dog pissed on his corpse/grave, does that mean it became desecrated ground again undoing all the hard work from the last movie.
I mean... it could be argued that the junkyard wasn't hollowed ground anyway since it wasn't consecrated by a priest. I always thought that was the reason. The religious iconography hurt Freddy, but he wasn't destroyed because the bones weren't buried correctly. So, when Kirsten couldn't let Freddy go, her drawing her friends into her nightmare did exactly what Joey said: it got them thinking about him which was led to his resurrection. That it was Kincaid that did it -- the guy who seemed to be moving along most -- was just a bit of irony.
But then there is the problem: If Kinkaid had visited the ACTUAL junkyard with his dog, ok, you got something… But this is dream dog, dream Kinkaid, dream junkyard…
I don’t have a problem with the film mechanic that they have to desecrate the land again so Freddy’s back. But why did they have to make it flaming dog piss? It could’ve been anything impure but that’s what they chose. Would’ve been infinitely better if the land was made impure again cause teenagers were banging on his grave.
Yes! Or it could've been interesting if the survivors or someone associated visited the area as a remembrance or commemoration of there victory, perhaps drunk on their success, desecrated it as a final middle finger to Freddy, accidentally freeing him again
I think Dream Master might be the most "80s" film out the entire Elm Street franchise. If it isn't for being the first one to really lean in on Freddy being more of a funny cartoon character than a scary serial killer, it's the copious amounts of montages with pop music that really invokes the feeling of, "Hell yeah! This is what the 1980s was all about!", and I kinda find a lot of charm and enjoyment because of those elements.
Freddy vs Jigsaw in the nightmare realm. I think Jigsaw would win. He's too jaded for nightmares and this is a battle of creativity and imagination, except Kramer can just manifest all the traps related to fire he wants. What does Freddy have? -You have CANCER -I know -err... YOU LOST YOUR CHILD -I know -uuuuh... Amanda failed you -I knew she would
@@RhysCallinan-hf7qx jigsaw accepted death long ago and already planned contingencies for after he dies. Freddy thinks it's over until he finds a tape recorder dangling in front of him.
@@palpat8431 No he uses his age problems to torture him even on death. Relives his best moments with the worst of his problems. And gets him to relive his worst moments and what could've been if Jiggy was better or knew what was happening.
@@RhysCallinan-hf7qx I do think Jigsaw would beat Freddy. But JASON would beat Jigsaw, and Freddy would beat Jason (in the dream world, in the real world he did lose). New version of rock, paper, scissors - Jason, Jigsaw, Freddy.
@@Krueger4Eva-zt5jb Introduced along with her son Ryan in Episode 5. Az had no idea who she was so he didn't even mention her name, but it was her. Sadly. th-cam.com/video/iabhUddWsuo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=MCMhgikVXERYHQ8g
My Uncle's land name is "Sans", and his wife wanted to name tgeur daughter Sahara or Egypt(ian) or Caribbean to make a sands pun. Thankfully, they had two boys instead... and she couldn't find any dessert or beach/sea names that sounded masculine Also, my aunt's maiden name is "Panic" so her first name Iken was a pun name "I can panic", so maybe she just wanted to pass on they type of pain.
It's hilarious that the suggested viewing after this efap is one of the MILF manor episode discussions by Az Probably because one of the actresses from this movie is also in that show😂😂😂
Imagine being Robert Englund reading the script "Freddy is resurrected by flaming dog piss... Funny placeholder fellas, but how is he actually resurrected?" And then there's just an awkward silence.
It's weird having an EFAP 'arc' releasing over the course of a week instead of taking a year to finish... Clearly this sorcery is the work of the ill-omened; "SHORTMAN"!
@@crocadillius6418 I'm glad. Also not RIP Poe's Law; this is exactly what Poe's Law states!! I'm up to Episode #50 of EFAP and I've seen people say some ***crazy*** shit, man, anything is possible. Besides, that could absolutely be construed as an attempt at genuine criticism of the Long...
A character named Alice who is good at everything and better than all the other previously established characters in the franchise? It's the Resident Evil movies all over again. The guy who did the screenplay for this also went on to do A Knight's Tale, among other notable films.
Y'know, say what you want about the very idea of resurrecting Jason from Friday the 13th but 'lightning strike to the heart' beats 'dog pissing on your grave' every time. Edit: I'm pretty sure Frank Darabont was working on awesome 'The Blob' re-make, which actually one of those 'way better than the original' films.
Platoon is incorrect about Halloween III: it's actually quite popular. Didn't do well at the box office but thanks to cable and VHS etc, it's gained a (very deserved) cult status as a very enjoyable film.
It can't be "quite popular" and a cult film at the same time. Unless you are using the term Cult film incorrectly. A cult film is a movie that failed at the box office and/or has a small/limited but devout audience. I.E. a film with limited appeal. Halloween 3 isn't very popular. It does have its fans, and there is new merchandise made of H3 every year, in light of the fact that it has yearly merchandise it's not cult. Someone is buying the merchandise, but it remains one of the least popular film in the Halloween franchise. Platoon is correct.
Anyone else feel like the Roach kill felt so out of place in this movie? The rest of the time Freddy's acting like a goofball, the kills and the mechanics are ridiculous and so on. Then all of sudden we get what is probably the most horrific, painful death in the whole franchise
@@thunderstruck6647 Blood blob I suppose. Like the bed guy from the 1st movie. Hopefully someone collects our fitness queen's remains in a bucket as well 🪣✊🏻
@@thunderstruck6647 Presumably, it looked like she was crushed by her barbels. That's what happens when you lift weights without a spotter! And also inexplicably fall asleep while weightlifting.
Ok, i get the point of killing off the previous case to basically start over but that definitely hurts the movie. They should either have gone with a time-skip or had the 3rd cast leave the town (i think i would in their position, even if Freddie is gone). on the topic of bringing Frddie back, why not do the basic crazy person/cult brings him back, i'm sure it isn't a stretch to have someone obsessed over Freddie or, hell, have it be a copy-cat pretending to be Freddie and then have dream Freddie just be a normal nightmare because the cast think he's returned. The whole dragging others into the dream should be an interesting concept for NoES, so much can be done with it.
Having a crazy person or cult might work after Final Nightmare. The cult idea was in the drafts of Freddy vs Jason but those early drafts got too convoluted even for this franchise. Some of the additional media like comics have played with other ideas for bringing him back or spreading belief in him like a psychological virus.
I like the premise of the main character having the power to drag people into dreams, which Freddy takes advantage of to get victims since his dream powers are specifically limited to victims related to the people who killed him. Though I'd have it that, at first, the main girl kind of helps Freddy, purposly dragging in people she hates or thinks deserve to die, they get killed without anyone being able to explain their death and maybe in return Freddy gives the girl some fun dreams or whatever. The survivors of three hear about the deaths, conclude that Freddy's back somehow (maybe he even tricked the main girl into ressurecting him), and figure that, since the girl is sorta acting like a conduit, the way to stop Freddy is by killing her. The girl is eventually convinced by the survivors when she starts inadvertently bringing in more obviously innocent people and defeats Freddy by sacrificing herself.
I LOVED the idea at the end! But i never saw the actual movie and thought that this was going to satsifying cathertic end to Freddy, the childrens soul tearinh his evil ass apart. Exactly as he deserves and despite all his power was vulnerable when none feared him anymore. ...shame the REST of the film didnt add up to my IDEA of how good that ending surely was! :(
I thought I'd seen all the Freddie Krueger movies but it turns out I've only seen the third one and Freddie vs Jason. I've seen all the Friday the 13th movies, that somehow convinced me I'd seen all the Freddie movies.
Not saying this makes logical sense, but the visual of the souls coming out of Freddy and ripping him apart is pretty fucking cool lol. I don't care, in a better film (not Nightmare on Elm Street) that's an awesome fitting death.
I cannot imagine how disappointing Dream Master must have been to avid series viewers back in the day just because it was a direct follow-up to Dream Warriors... and how it treated the surviving characters from the third movie.
@vlover15OO few things in the history of cinema have ever done as much direct damage to a huge franchise as Alien 3. It literally destroyed all hope and momentum in the franchise--its a testament to how amazing the first two films are that the franchise has endured having non-stop trash for literally every entry after Aliens. All they had to do was follow the 'Earth Hive' comics from Dark Horse and keep the main trio from Aliens. But no. They murdered the poor franchise in its crib
@@KrazzeeKane I've heard that an early script for Alien Cubed focused on an adult Newt. After they got back to Earth, Ripley, Hicks, and Newt were immediately split up. Ripley was institutionalized, Hicks was reassigned, and Newt was put into a Wayland-Yutani run orphanage. Years later, Newt is now an engineer working on some horrific backwater and trying to track down Ripley and Hicks. This eventually leads her to discovering a penal planet that has been conducting xenomorph experimentation on the prisoners, of which Ripley might be a member. I think several aspects of the script were reused in comic books. The only part of the original script that survived was the main setting: the penal planet.
Terminator fans as well! First 2 films are both legendary in their own way, then 5? times now, they've desecrated the memories of the originals with soulless reboots/cash-grabs
You’re better off not being able to. I was there. I saw it all. In fact, this was the first one I saw in the theater. Of course, I wasn’t as enamored with Dream Warriors as most were, so it was already on the decline for me.
@@ghoulsome9483 Freddy's whole appeal is being kinda goofy. He's at his best when straddling that line between comedy and horror, cracking wise with cheesy puns and one liners like an 80s action hero as he murders innocent teens with whatever the wacky special effects team could fit in the budget. It's a delicate balance that most of the Nightmare movies tipped too far one way or the other.
I once heard somebody on that VH1 I Love the '80's show say that they blamed On Golden Pond for popularizing the phrase "suck face". Maybe. But I like to think that it was _this_ movie that put a definitive end to it just by accurately depicting what it brings to mind.
19:40 I'm surprised nobody noticed.....she never even actually lit the cigarette, yet she continued to "smoke" it (including exhaling literally nothing). 🤔
The best parts about this movie, and all the other ones including the next one, are the creative kills and puns Freddy makes in the movies. Beyond that the plots of some of these films, especially this one, are just weird
People ignore Halloween 3 but the premise is actually the scariest and most plausible. Micro chips in Halloween masks and subliminal messaging turning people into murder zombies? Now that’s scary.
ngl I'm really excited to see what they make of New Nightmare. I remember not even liking that one that much but the concept alone is great. Except I just checked and that one is the 7th and not the 5th one like I thought. Hope they can survive these movies until then.
I always liked the cute nerd girl in this one. She really pulled off those glasses and defied the nerd stereotype of the time by also riding a id say motorcycle but its almost certainly a moped or some kind of scooter. Whichever she was cute and dorky
The actress got into a fight with the director over how she played the character. He thought she should be more stereotypically "street". She thought that was stupid and completely against the character on the casting sheet (and low-key racist, but he was foreign). She clearly won the argument.
@@ScreamingDoom with how underdeveloped and how quick she was killed but how focused the movie was on introducing her character at first id guess it was cuz of the fight the script got fiddled with to off her quick
Friday the 13th also tried to make a movie without Jason in it (he was in the first one just not as the killer but 5 abandoned him entirely (since he was dead) and most agree it's the worst of them as a result and in the very next movie brought him back to life.
Okay guys, I'll be honest. I love The Dream Master; it's my favorite Nightmare' movie, and I'll fight and die on the hill that it's really good. Unironically. But for fuck's sake, from the first time I saw it, to the last, to you guys reacting to it (easily watched it a dozen or more times, so this would make around 13, ah, spooky!), I have NO. FUCKING. CLUE. how or WHY they revive Freddy this way. It has had me scratching my head for decades.
So was the idea that the dog pissing on his grave means it got desecrated which means he can come back? No I just looked it up, they just made shit up as they went along, never mind
Some info I found out about the film:
• The producers turned down Wes Craven's idea for the film as they thought it was 'illogical'
• They started filming before they had a director
• They were trying to show Freddy in a more heroic light and believed the audience would be cheering him on
Proof there's always been producers working in Hollywood who didn't have a clue what they were doing
Heroic?!
Lmao isn't he supposed be child murderer/rapist how they thought of like that
@@masterofsloth4349 Murderer, yes. Rapist? That was a retcon that basically got a single newspaper headline glanced over in the fifth film.
@@SumDumGy No he was always meant to be a diddler. It's heavily implied in the first one. It's just it was considered a little too tasteless and unsavoury for a 1980s movie with a full theater release. Especially since Nightmare 1 very much was the last nail in the coffin for the exploitation cinema scene which WOULD have just outright stated something like that.
This is also why it'll get heavily hinted at in later films and the remake as well. It was always the intent.
@@c-puff There’s nothing in any of the films until a newspaper headline in part 5 that even suggests he was more than a child murderer. I’m rewatching them all right now. There’s not even a hint of an implication beyond that one reference up through the sixth film.
Maybe they can do a reboot, where Freddy goes Ito Boogie's dreams and cuts out his non-existent cancer.
Freddy knows the greatest torture to Boogie is not killing him😂.
“I BEGGED HIM, I BEGGED HIM NOT TO TAKE IT!”
Nah thats how they beat Freddy in the new reboot. They trick him into going into Boogie's dreams which makes Freddy realize his degeneracy and torture cant measure up to Boogie's depravity.
"IM IN A TREMEDEOUS PAIN, IM IN A TREMENDEOUS PAIN. HELP ME!!! HELP ME!!! HELP ME!!!"
Screams Boogie at Freddie.
Freddy's been in the background sabotaging him the whole time "Steven, tell that black guy 'that's a lot of money for a black person'."
How to survive the 80’s:
1. Know karate
2. Wear a leather jacket
3. Know karate
And the jacket was more important 😂
Karate kid and spy kids 3-D knew how to defeat Freddy
oh do i have a kid for you!
In the 80s it goes without saying if you're wearing a leather jacket you *probably* know Karate, just like how if you're clearly a beautiful woman, nobody will even notice as long as you're wearing glasses.
Sound advice 😂
As ridiculous as these movies are, it cannot be understated that they were a colossal success for New Line Cinema, earning them the nickname "The House that Freddy Built".
So in a sense, we owe a little thanks to Freddy. Without him, we wouldn't have gotten one of the best possible adaptations for The Lord of the Rings.
I feel like they could have explained away Freddy's resurrection by having a news report saying that the junkyard was doing earthworks clearing ground and accidentally dug up skeletal remains. If they disturbed Freddy's impromptu grave, thus ruining the consecrated ground, it would be more believable than firey dog piss.
But it would also be much less fun.
At least I'm no longer concerned that my dog has a firey piss stream. Now, on a connected matter, should dog poop explode when it hits the ground?.......
Or how about some dumb kids or whatever accidentally disturb his resting ground and dig him up, then that goes on so that the kids who messed with the grave are hunted, and one of them has to fight back (the leader or the one who objected to said messing of the grave). Make it so Freddy can't ness with those who beat him (Nancy was saved because she "beat" him, or at least survived). I fucking hate this movie because it just destroys the previous one, eben more because it was the one movie that actually was good. They made Nancy die for nothing.
The Fire Urinating Dog of Resurrection was probably the most intriguing part of this movie... It's both funny and sad in a way.
I believe it is a simple case of the ground no longer being hallowed.
I've never hated a dog so much as this one.
@@RhysCallinan-hf7qx That dog was the true villain of the movie all along.
I feel like Powerwolf has become the official sound track of EFAP.
If someone has narcolepsy, does Freddy just leave that person alone because it's too easy, like how the Predator doesn't kill unarmed people?
He has them in his contact list. Uses them as a focus group for vet his ideas.
If fear is what keeps him alive, I imagine he just chases them around like “I’m gonna get ya. I’m gonna get ya” then when the person wakes up, they tell other people and more become aware of him.
nothing is above Petty Kruger lol
@@Electroid5yeah he would fear them because they would probably show up at inopportune times: Freddy is on the can dropping a cleveland dreamer and suddenly narcoleptic Ned stumbles in unannounced.
It wouldn't have been hard to have the dog revive Freddy, just dig up the bones. Boom. No longer buried in hallowed ground. Seriously, what were they thinking.
It was kind of refreshing in 3 that there were multiple survivors among Freddy's targets who would have just been kill-fodder in 99% of other slasher movies. Hack writers tend to think that you get automatic tension if you whittle down the cast to one person (or two, if there's a love interest), but knowing exactly who's going to live or die from the getgo is the opposite of tension.
This is even more valuable in a sequel-reliant franchise, because without a story worth following or characters worth investing in you're not making a movie as much as you're making a WatchMojo Top Kills compilation that takes 2 hours to watch.
So naturally I was overjoyed when the first two kills of this movie were both boring _and_ offing two surviving characters from the last film. Incidentally, that's another hack writer technique for horror movie sequels: killing surviving protagonists from the previous installment early in the new one in a desperate attempt to make the stakes look higher.
Especially when they had the balls to kill off NANCY HERSELF when normally she wouldve survived and the other doctor guy would've been killed
They add stuff to the lore later on where Freddy doesn't really actually die, he just becomes powerless because nobody's afraid of him because nobody's thinking about him, so he needs to come up with ways to get back into people's heads and dreams, but that's way later. Or maybe I'm doing a head canon, because it's been 15 years since I've watched this series.
I will never understand why they brought the characters back from the third film just to kill them off in the first 30 min and restart from scratch, why not just BEGIN with the new cast.
It's a crutch for hack writers working on horror movie sequels. They bring back survivors from the last movie, kill them early on, and then desperately hope that this tricks the audience into thinking that the stakes are higher now.
This movie did it, Friday the 13th did it, Halloween did it, Aliens did it, Jaws did it, The Hills Have Eyes did it, Maniac Cop did it...there are plenty more, but that's just off the top of my head.
Final Destination did it. In the last movie, technically in the first movie, and I think the 3rd or 4th
@@Tsubasaotaku10 2nd as well. Both main characters died, the guy in between movies and the girl at the end.
I was reading Yahtzee's website before he made TH-cam videos. Here's what he had to say about Freddy's return in this movie back in the early 2000s: "A dog in someone's dream pissing fire onto Freddy's long-forgotten corpse. I wish I could say I was kidding, I really do, as I like to think I could make something like that up."
best quote: "It's not even real dog piss, it's dream dog piss" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
omg i just realized essentially they pissed on the ending of the third film.....
Unless Freddy is afraid of being caught by dream police, he has no reason to try and make their deaths look like an accident. I'd wanna make sure the parents who set me on fire knew it was me.
Either October is going by really faster or these efaps are coming out every day
Seems that way doesn't it
Both
I conceptually like how they defeated Freddy in this film with his former victims ripping him apart from the inside out, it feels like a good final defeat for him ruined by the need for sequels and the last minute bullshit ass pull mechanisms. Cool visual though.
The funniest thing about the fire pissing dog? His official name was _Jason._
Producer: "So, have you figured out how to bring Freddy back?"
Writer: "Yes, sir, here are some ideas."
Producer: "These ideas are all flaming dog piss."
Writer: "Flaming dog piss... THAT'S BRILLIANT!!!"
I was the result of a 100 madmen grapeing a nun. I was burnt to death for murdering kids only to come back as a dream demon only then to be cast out by christ but luckily a dog pissed on my remains so once again I roam the dream halls. Well it's one hell of a story to place on your job application
"And so that's why you think you'll be a good fit for Wendy's?"
from what i guess, freddy was laid to rest by creating hallowed ground around his corpse and praying for him to pass, so since the dog pissed on his corpse/grave, does that mean it became desecrated ground again undoing all the hard work from the last movie.
Yep, you got it.
I mean... it could be argued that the junkyard wasn't hollowed ground anyway since it wasn't consecrated by a priest. I always thought that was the reason. The religious iconography hurt Freddy, but he wasn't destroyed because the bones weren't buried correctly.
So, when Kirsten couldn't let Freddy go, her drawing her friends into her nightmare did exactly what Joey said: it got them thinking about him which was led to his resurrection. That it was Kincaid that did it -- the guy who seemed to be moving along most -- was just a bit of irony.
But then there is the problem:
If Kinkaid had visited the ACTUAL junkyard with his dog, ok, you got something…
But this is dream dog, dream Kinkaid, dream junkyard…
I don’t have a problem with the film mechanic that they have to desecrate the land again so Freddy’s back.
But why did they have to make it flaming dog piss?
It could’ve been anything impure but that’s what they chose.
Would’ve been infinitely better if the land was made impure again cause teenagers were banging on his grave.
Yes! Or it could've been interesting if the survivors or someone associated visited the area as a remembrance or commemoration of there victory, perhaps drunk on their success, desecrated it as a final middle finger to Freddy, accidentally freeing him again
I think Dream Master might be the most "80s" film out the entire Elm Street franchise. If it isn't for being the first one to really lean in on Freddy being more of a funny cartoon character than a scary serial killer, it's the copious amounts of montages with pop music that really invokes the feeling of, "Hell yeah! This is what the 1980s was all about!", and I kinda find a lot of charm and enjoyment because of those elements.
I think they were trying to say the dog desecrating his grave let him comeback. Im not sure how that works though cause it wasnt even real
The inclusion of "BFG Division" from the Doom 2016 soundtrack is amazing.
What happens if Freddy encounters the Inception crew?
@@blackdragoncyrus Their was a South Park episode where they did Inception and had Freddy come out of retirement to enter a dream the boys were having
They would go into Freddie's dream.
@@HectorLopez0217 "Zzzz... did someone order a pizza... zzz..."
"You shouldn't have buried me I'm not dead" from Freddy is a reference to wes Cravens voodoo movie The Serpent and The Rainbow
Fun fact the “Bug Motel” scene was my first memory. I walked into the living room while my cousins were watching it
8:55 - She woke up with a massive chunk missing from her arm, she wrapped a sheet around it like Far Cry, and went back to bed …
The real nightmare was the plot holes the dog pissed open along the way.
Freddy vs Jigsaw in the nightmare realm.
I think Jigsaw would win. He's too jaded for nightmares and this is a battle of creativity and imagination, except Kramer can just manifest all the traps related to fire he wants.
What does Freddy have?
-You have CANCER
-I know
-err... YOU LOST YOUR CHILD
-I know
-uuuuh... Amanda failed you
-I knew she would
Backpain! Weak knees! Aging gums! Constipation! Weak bladder! Just face it Jigsaw, you're getting old. Might as well have one last sleep, forever.
@@RhysCallinan-hf7qx jigsaw accepted death long ago and already planned contingencies for after he dies. Freddy thinks it's over until he finds a tape recorder dangling in front of him.
@@palpat8431 No he uses his age problems to torture him even on death. Relives his best moments with the worst of his problems. And gets him to relive his worst moments and what could've been if Jiggy was better or knew what was happening.
@@RhysCallinan-hf7qx I do think Jigsaw would beat Freddy. But JASON would beat Jigsaw, and Freddy would beat Jason (in the dream world, in the real world he did lose).
New version of rock, paper, scissors - Jason, Jigsaw, Freddy.
A bit of disgusting trivia - in 2023 Alice actress Lisa Wilcox landed in the first season of MILF Manor.
Some nightmares never end.
That is perverse indeed.
milf? Like the final destination character?
LISA!!! NO!!! WHY!!?? 😭
@@Krueger4Eva-zt5jb Introduced along with her son Ryan in Episode 5. Az had no idea who she was so he didn't even mention her name, but it was her. Sadly.
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i don't understand
Those parents, with a cool last name like Knight, calling their kid Tuesday are evil geniuses! 🤣
My Uncle's land name is "Sans", and his wife wanted to name tgeur daughter Sahara or Egypt(ian) or Caribbean to make a sands pun.
Thankfully, they had two boys instead... and she couldn't find any dessert or beach/sea names that sounded masculine
Also, my aunt's maiden name is "Panic" so her first name Iken was a pun name "I can panic", so maybe she just wanted to pass on they type of pain.
These have been incredible fun. Thank you, guys!
I wish they could just accept that yes, Freddie IS a huge troll, not a calculating, efficient killer.
yeah but why
@@Soapy-chanbc he likes to terrorize kids. He’s a child killing pedo turned into a dream demon
@@Soapy-chanbecause that is his personality.
It's hilarious that the suggested viewing after this efap is one of the MILF manor episode discussions by Az
Probably because one of the actresses from this movie is also in that show😂😂😂
It’s Alice
"That would never work that way" -IT'S A DREAM!
'Does that mean Aristotle wrote about Freddy Kruger?'
'Yes.'
*Silence as LP's braincells scream*
'Okay then!'
Imagine being Robert Englund reading the script "Freddy is resurrected by flaming dog piss... Funny placeholder fellas, but how is he actually resurrected?" And then there's just an awkward silence.
I love how the dog having the Clap is what resurrected Freddy
Praise be to the spookiest month and the endless EFAP's.
Since Hollywood is obsessed with sequels these days.. I want an Inception 2 movie..
Inception vs. Freddy!!
It's weird having an EFAP 'arc' releasing over the course of a week instead of taking a year to finish...
Clearly this sorcery is the work of the ill-omened; "SHORTMAN"!
Truly the stuff of nightmares. Barely making the ten minute mark. Being succinct and generalizing to make a point. Haunting.
@@crocadillius6418 I can't tell if this is ironic or not.
@@JoeRobertshaw it’s sarcasm. Rip Poes Law
@@crocadillius6418 I'm glad. Also not RIP Poe's Law; this is exactly what Poe's Law states!! I'm up to Episode #50 of EFAP and I've seen people say some ***crazy*** shit, man, anything is possible. Besides, that could absolutely be construed as an attempt at genuine criticism of the Long...
@@crocadillius6418 but yes also funny hahas
The real thing bringing Freddie back is those weird kids he keeps around his nightmare dimension
A character named Alice who is good at everything and better than all the other previously established characters in the franchise?
It's the Resident Evil movies all over again.
The guy who did the screenplay for this also went on to do A Knight's Tale, among other notable films.
Mauler does a range of alarmingly good American accents.
The consistent use of "Doom" tracks is my favorite thing about Wolf's editing 😂
I love how Wolf edits these videos. Good boy Wolf, your doing good. 😊
They straight up beat freddy with holy water and a crucifix in the third movie
Don’t point that out to them they obviously haven’t actually been paying attention as they watch the movies unless it’s to knit pick
I mean, it does make more sense in that movie than this one.
@@DaBigWilliG1995 Can't be picking at someone's knitting. That's just rude.
@@DaBigWilliG1995 please explain to me how the complaint of flaming dog piss bringing back Freddy is a nitpick
@@WILLTY13 I'm only complaining about mauler complaining about the nursery rhyme saying "grab your crucifix"
Didn't know Daniel-san was in a Freddy Kreuger movie.
Y'know, say what you want about the very idea of resurrecting Jason from Friday the 13th but 'lightning strike to the heart' beats 'dog pissing on your grave' every time.
Edit: I'm pretty sure Frank Darabont was working on awesome 'The Blob' re-make, which actually one of those 'way better than the original' films.
The titular "Nightmare" of this franchise is all of the wasted potential
Every Flamingdogpiss A Pause
Actually since Elm Street did it first, isn’t Homer in the bushes technically copying Freddy?
Platoon is incorrect about Halloween III: it's actually quite popular. Didn't do well at the box office but thanks to cable and VHS etc, it's gained a (very deserved) cult status as a very enjoyable film.
Would have been cool if it turned into an antology series instead of just recycling the same killer
@@daskampffredchen yep for me, everything past the final scene in the first Halloween was unnecessary and wasted. Anthology all the way.
.... I think it was just the boobs mate.
It can't be "quite popular" and a cult film at the same time.
Unless you are using the term Cult film incorrectly.
A cult film is a movie that failed at the box office and/or has a small/limited but devout audience. I.E. a film with limited appeal.
Halloween 3 isn't very popular. It does have its fans, and there is new merchandise made of H3 every year, in light of the fact that it has yearly merchandise it's not cult.
Someone is buying the merchandise, but it remains one of the least popular film in the Halloween franchise.
Platoon is correct.
I honestly think it's the creepiest Halloween movie! Couple of really nasty death scenes!
personally i haven't mastered while dreaming since i was a teen
Anyone else feel like the Roach kill felt so out of place in this movie? The rest of the time Freddy's acting like a goofball, the kills and the mechanics are ridiculous and so on. Then all of sudden we get what is probably the most horrific, painful death in the whole franchise
What was she like in the real world since she was crushed?
@@thunderstruck6647 Blood blob I suppose. Like the bed guy from the 1st movie. Hopefully someone collects our fitness queen's remains in a bucket as well 🪣✊🏻
@@thunderstruck6647 Presumably, it looked like she was crushed by her barbels. That's what happens when you lift weights without a spotter! And also inexplicably fall asleep while weightlifting.
At least Max and Dr. Gordon don’t come back for the sequels. We can imagine that they lived long, fulfilling lives after Dream Warriors.
Ok, i get the point of killing off the previous case to basically start over but that definitely hurts the movie. They should either have gone with a time-skip or had the 3rd cast leave the town (i think i would in their position, even if Freddie is gone).
on the topic of bringing Frddie back, why not do the basic crazy person/cult brings him back, i'm sure it isn't a stretch to have someone obsessed over Freddie or, hell, have it be a copy-cat pretending to be Freddie and then have dream Freddie just be a normal nightmare because the cast think he's returned.
The whole dragging others into the dream should be an interesting concept for NoES, so much can be done with it.
Having a crazy person or cult might work after Final Nightmare. The cult idea was in the drafts of Freddy vs Jason but those early drafts got too convoluted even for this franchise.
Some of the additional media like comics have played with other ideas for bringing him back or spreading belief in him like a psychological virus.
I like the premise of the main character having the power to drag people into dreams, which Freddy takes advantage of to get victims since his dream powers are specifically limited to victims related to the people who killed him. Though I'd have it that, at first, the main girl kind of helps Freddy, purposly dragging in people she hates or thinks deserve to die, they get killed without anyone being able to explain their death and maybe in return Freddy gives the girl some fun dreams or whatever. The survivors of three hear about the deaths, conclude that Freddy's back somehow (maybe he even tricked the main girl into ressurecting him), and figure that, since the girl is sorta acting like a conduit, the way to stop Freddy is by killing her. The girl is eventually convinced by the survivors when she starts inadvertently bringing in more obviously innocent people and defeats Freddy by sacrificing herself.
"They killed one of the main characters for no reasons."
That's a lot of horror movies in a lot of franchises.
Will Freddy get Diabetes if he goes into Boogie's Dream?
Freddy is such a goober troll I kind of love him 🤣
I LOVED the idea at the end! But i never saw the actual movie and thought that this was going to satsifying cathertic end to Freddy, the childrens soul tearinh his evil ass apart. Exactly as he deserves and despite all his power was vulnerable when none feared him anymore.
...shame the REST of the film didnt add up to my IDEA of how good that ending surely was! :(
The dog after the flaming dog piss looked at him like "WTF STD did you give me!"
I thought I'd seen all the Freddie Krueger movies but it turns out I've only seen the third one and Freddie vs Jason. I've seen all the Friday the 13th movies, that somehow convinced me I'd seen all the Freddie movies.
these are fun, thank you guys
Not saying this makes logical sense, but the visual of the souls coming out of Freddy and ripping him apart is pretty fucking cool lol. I don't care, in a better film (not Nightmare on Elm Street) that's an awesome fitting death.
I cannot imagine how disappointing Dream Master must have been to avid series viewers back in the day just because it was a direct follow-up to Dream Warriors... and how it treated the surviving characters from the third movie.
At least it wasn't as bad as alien 2 fans must have been for three lol
@vlover15OO few things in the history of cinema have ever done as much direct damage to a huge franchise as Alien 3. It literally destroyed all hope and momentum in the franchise--its a testament to how amazing the first two films are that the franchise has endured having non-stop trash for literally every entry after Aliens.
All they had to do was follow the 'Earth Hive' comics from Dark Horse and keep the main trio from Aliens. But no. They murdered the poor franchise in its crib
@@KrazzeeKane I've heard that an early script for Alien Cubed focused on an adult Newt. After they got back to Earth, Ripley, Hicks, and Newt were immediately split up. Ripley was institutionalized, Hicks was reassigned, and Newt was put into a Wayland-Yutani run orphanage.
Years later, Newt is now an engineer working on some horrific backwater and trying to track down Ripley and Hicks. This eventually leads her to discovering a penal planet that has been conducting xenomorph experimentation on the prisoners, of which Ripley might be a member.
I think several aspects of the script were reused in comic books. The only part of the original script that survived was the main setting: the penal planet.
Terminator fans as well! First 2 films are both legendary in their own way, then 5? times now, they've desecrated the memories of the originals with soulless reboots/cash-grabs
You’re better off not being able to. I was there. I saw it all. In fact, this was the first one I saw in the theater. Of course, I wasn’t as enamored with Dream Warriors as most were, so it was already on the decline for me.
3 is my favorite but I love all these movies! And the Tuesday Knight song is a total banger!
Alright! These plushies are top notch fellas, good job
I was just watching the NoES doc. The invisible freddy karate fight happened because they ran out of money.
How pathetic. The third did so much to Garner good will and this movie literally pisses on it.
She inherits fire pissing abilities
The good elm streets are the heather langenkamp ones 1 3 and new nightmare
Protein in flaming dog urine is the only thing that brings me joy in life!
"Freddy" loses a lot of his mystique and intimidation if you just call him "Fred", it's like he becomes a manager, "Fred Krueger"
it's mildly interesting that the sillier name seems more threatening
@@ghoulsome9483 Freddy's whole appeal is being kinda goofy. He's at his best when straddling that line between comedy and horror, cracking wise with cheesy puns and one liners like an 80s action hero as he murders innocent teens with whatever the wacky special effects team could fit in the budget.
It's a delicate balance that most of the Nightmare movies tipped too far one way or the other.
So, fun fact: Alice’s actress Lisa Wilcox, along with her son, was on the show MILF Manor.
Have a good day. 😜
she certainly is a milf
I once heard somebody on that VH1 I Love the '80's show say that they blamed On Golden Pond for popularizing the phrase "suck face". Maybe. But I like to think that it was _this_ movie that put a definitive end to it just by accurately depicting what it brings to mind.
Perfect example of the cheap money grab sequel. No thought, talent, or creativity, just throw something together with Freddy's face on it = profit.
19:40 I'm surprised nobody noticed.....she never even actually lit the cigarette, yet she continued to "smoke" it (including exhaling literally nothing). 🤔
The best parts about this movie, and all the other ones including the next one, are the creative kills and puns Freddy makes in the movies. Beyond that the plots of some of these films, especially this one, are just weird
29:38…Freddy installed a waterbed…boy going to HomeDepot..
5:02 someone needs to edit this clip and put the part where Billy the puppet is thrown on the floor next to the tricycle at the end
If EFAP gets through this arc without playing Nightmare on My Street, it’ll be a shame. Turns out the real Freddy was Jada, all along
Halloween 3 is immensely popular nowadays
The roach transformation is still pretty gnarly
Krueger dies by seeing his reflection (movie literally ends with Krueger's reflection in a fountain) Gah...
Should’ve been called: Nightmare on Elm Street 4 The Dream Catcher
People ignore Halloween 3 but the premise is actually the scariest and most plausible. Micro chips in Halloween masks and subliminal messaging turning people into murder zombies? Now that’s scary.
Rags attempted to make an anime joke but said Death Note instead of Sword Art Online
Coming back from super death takes time
ngl I'm really excited to see what they make of New Nightmare. I remember not even liking that one that much but the concept alone is great. Except I just checked and that one is the 7th and not the 5th one like I thought. Hope they can survive these movies until then.
Mauler seems to think it's a reboot so I hope they don't do the Freddy vs Jason film before New Nightmare.
Freddy was brought back by a bad case of dog gonorrhea
8:31 I love this time period when women used to use their large hair to assert dominance.
Man, NoES4 totally ripped off Aliens with that “Get away from him, you son of a bitch”.
Still a better use of it than Alien: Romulus though.
"SO HE DOES HAVE A WATERBED?!?" 😂 I've been looking forward to you guys watching that scene! ❤
11:00 Hell yeah. The Nun 7: Chuck-Nuns.
I always liked the cute nerd girl in this one. She really pulled off those glasses and defied the nerd stereotype of the time by also riding a id say motorcycle but its almost certainly a moped or some kind of scooter. Whichever she was cute and dorky
The actress got into a fight with the director over how she played the character. He thought she should be more stereotypically "street". She thought that was stupid and completely against the character on the casting sheet (and low-key racist, but he was foreign). She clearly won the argument.
@@ScreamingDoom and got her character killed immediately unfortunately
@@bZman Yeah. :( Though I don't know if he killed off her character because of the fight or because it was in the (incomplete) script.
@@ScreamingDoom with how underdeveloped and how quick she was killed but how focused the movie was on introducing her character at first id guess it was cuz of the fight the script got fiddled with to off her quick
Friday the 13th also tried to make a movie without Jason in it (he was in the first one just not as the killer but 5 abandoned him entirely (since he was dead) and most agree it's the worst of them as a result and in the very next movie brought him back to life.
Okay guys, I'll be honest.
I love The Dream Master; it's my favorite Nightmare' movie, and I'll fight and die on the hill that it's really good. Unironically.
But for fuck's sake, from the first time I saw it, to the last, to you guys reacting to it (easily watched it a dozen or more times, so this would make around 13, ah, spooky!), I have NO. FUCKING. CLUE. how or WHY they revive Freddy this way. It has had me scratching my head for decades.
So was the idea that the dog pissing on his grave means it got desecrated which means he can come back?
No I just looked it up, they just made shit up as they went along, never mind