Citroen C4 Grand Picasso MPV 2007-2013 review - Carbuyer

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    The smart-looking C4 Picasso is a brilliant family car: it's big on the outside, feels bigger inside, and has plenty of stowage space. It's good looks on the outside are matched by an interior that's both well build and stylishly designed. Seats fold flat, and there is a huge boot. All versions, even basic VTR models, offer air conditioning and a host of airbags and safety aids. The two diesel engines are favourable over petrol, as they're more economical.
    A massive 500-litre boot extending to 1,734 litres (with the rear seats folded) means the C4 Picasso is about equal to rivals like the Renault Scenic (437 - 1,837 litres) and the Peugeot 5008 (512 - 1,604 litres). Touches like deep door pockets, under-floor storage and seats that fold down individually with the simple tug of a lever make the Citroen a great family car. The C4 Picasso registered a top ten place for practicality in the 2010 Driver Power survey.
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  • @NikolasKarampelas
    @NikolasKarampelas 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Thubs up if in 2023 believe MPVs like this one need to make a comeback! It was peak car practicality! So much space!

  • @LRS905
    @LRS905 12 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    That thing with the back seats that eliminates the holes in the storage area is neat as hell.

  • @jgfrenchy7112
    @jgfrenchy7112 6 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    The paddle shift is great when you're taking sharp turns, you can go down a gear, giving the car more torque and grip, hence you take the turn safely without any body roll. It's also great when you're towing a trailer. I have had my Picasso 2.0 HDi diesel for years and it's still great. Despite it not having all the gimmicks technology of 2018 like infotainment, etc, I'm still happy with it, I like things simple. One thing the car salesmen don't tell people is that these infotainments softwares could never be upgraded, that and in addition in years ahead when androids and apples upgrade, they will no longer be compatible or you'll get softwares glitches or freezes. So you will still have a perfectly running engine with crappy software technology. One of the reasons, I'm holding on to my Picasso, call me old fashion.

  • @screamindemonuk
    @screamindemonuk 12 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I have a grand Picasso and I love it. I think it handles pretty well for its size. The auto box does take some getting used to but is good fun. Well recommended from me

  • @hermanhayes750
    @hermanhayes750 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The best looking MPV ever.

  • @honestguy7764
    @honestguy7764 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Its a lovely car. Drive it all aound Europe with it carrying my family us, and our 3 childre. Mine is one of the firsts (nov 06) Fully loaded. Has now 260.000 km and only I had to fix the ECU (about €250) and replaced the EGR( about €400) I have made several 650km trips at 160 km/h cruise controlled, and its extremely comfortable.

    • @cipryan96
      @cipryan96 ปีที่แล้ว

      What is the average mpg?

  • @ashjames1307
    @ashjames1307 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    We've owned a CX25 GTI Turbo 2, 1.6 Petrol Xsara (hatch, not picasso), 2.0 HDI Xantia, 2.2 HDI 173 BHP C5 (it's over 200 BHP now according to rolling road), AX 1.0 monobloc, 2.0 HDI C4 Hatchback and yet this is the car that we both fallout over as we each always want to drive the bloody thing! Not the fastest thing on the road, but that relaxed and comfortable to drive that you just don't give a shit. The handling is fine, it is fun to drive and the EGS is fucking epic.

  • @iananderson4897
    @iananderson4897 11 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Mine is the 2L HDi it's the EGS. And I use the paddle shift all the time, usually upshifting since it holds lower gears too long imho.

  • @Bigtel1970
    @Bigtel1970 10 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Great car - very comfortable, and fast as it needs to be. I've got the 2008 1.6 Diesel Auto which drives lovely and handles/manoeuvres really well. It is what it is - a family orientated bus, full of great extras. The large front screen is a dream for people who like to have a clear vision, and the front pillars were well thought out to provide maximum visibility - something the old Xzara Picasso's did badly. All round top car, and second hand prices are brilliant for what was a prestigious MPV at the time. Well happy!

    • @iizxxshxnii106
      @iizxxshxnii106 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bigtel1970

    • @zackrr1
      @zackrr1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have a 2013 automatic

  • @dufonrafal
    @dufonrafal 11 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    There is two auto-gearbox. The one with the 1,6L engines is slow. It's a one clutch 6 speed electronic. But the one with the 2L HDi is a true 6 speed hydraulic, and she is really good. The flappy-paddle is for driving in manual (mountain, hill...).

  • @dsilvester70
    @dsilvester70 9 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I've had ,mine since 2011 and I love the car. Comfortable easy to drive, space, storage

  • @koalajs
    @koalajs 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    really nice review, short but full of real info there so thanks :)

  • @sxmbrxxdy2001
    @sxmbrxxdy2001 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My dad used to have one of these when I was 7 and when it was brand new in 2007

  • @alanthorburn5073
    @alanthorburn5073 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bought one used for £1350, and very comfortable and great to drive.
    It's got plenty of room for Michele in the Boot to take all the stuff for her work.
    Well worth the money and I'd by a newer one next time.

  • @beatmeierbm
    @beatmeierbm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    my 2009 auto 1.6 had 245 km and still worked . now i have a 2015 auto 1.6 and getting close to 165 km and totally happy with the versatility and comfort of it
    Even my wife likes it because it does everything automatically
    unlocking
    windscreen wipers
    lights
    shifts
    parking brake
    Not sporty but nice 👍🏼

    • @lazycarper7925
      @lazycarper7925 ปีที่แล้ว

      what mpg do you get on the motorway?

  • @Cardinalplonker
    @Cardinalplonker 13 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I've got the new C4 Picasso Exclusive. Gotta be the best car I ever owned! I love it! So many toys, it practically drives itself!

  • @UNDERDOGG1
    @UNDERDOGG1 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    found this very useful!

  • @Parknest
    @Parknest 7 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I've just bought one of these to replace my 2002 Xsara Picasso and it is light years ahead. Most of them had the 6 speed semi auto (the EGS transmission) so it will take longer to find a manual or a full auto. The position of the selector on the steering column is the same as the LHD versions which is why it my seem a bit strange (it doesn't bother me). Mine has the 2.0 HDi engine and is in Exclusive trim. I avoided the 1.6 HDi as they can be troublesome if they haven't been serviced correctly so make sure you have full service history if you decide to get the 1.6 HDi. The turbos suffer from oil starvation due to a blocked oil feed pipe if oil changes have been missed. The injector seals can also leak. Something else to watch out for is the self levelling air suspension on the rear. This can be costly to fix so make sure it is working. It will also fail the MoT if it isn't working. A DIY repair with eBay sourced parts is the most cost effective fix or coil springs can be retrofitted in place of the suspension airbags.
    EDIT: 4 years on and I still have this vehicle. It is truly a multi purpose vehicle vehicle. It carries stuff (good for tip runs or collecting large items), carries people (I've used all 7 seats a few times) and tows stuff. I've uploaded 44 videos documenting the repairs and maintenance I've had to do. The most popular video is the repair I had to do on the EGS actuator. The return hose for the EGS fluid gets chafed and will eventually leak. I also ended up doing the coil spring conversion after the compressor for the rear suspension failed. A new compressor is the thick end of a grand from the dealer but the parts to do the coil spring conversion cost less than £200. The Lexia/Diagbox software is required to disable the suspension module to stop any error messages appearing which would fail the UK MoT test.

    • @saintsaens21
      @saintsaens21 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very useful comment, thx. Mine is pretty great too, only the suspension seems iffy due to a grinding noise at startup, but it didn't fail a recent MOT.

    • @matthewblake9917
      @matthewblake9917 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You've just got a new sub

    • @andreimititelu5045
      @andreimititelu5045 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mulțumim mult pentru informații?!! 🎉

  • @peugeotCitroen2CV
    @peugeotCitroen2CV 12 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    id still want the auto to get the handy fridge
    lovely looking car them c4 picassos

  • @guraknugen
    @guraknugen 11 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    ”Who needs paddle-shifts on an MPV?”
    Well, you are free to not use them…

  • @sayaanlol
    @sayaanlol 11 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Im 17 & have to drive this big box as my first car. Its actually pretty decent :)

  • @35bigbri
    @35bigbri 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    paddle shift is amazing :-)...i have the 2L 140hp vtr+ semi automatic 2006 71000 on the clock..very nice ..my wife also has one but its the 1.6 110hp vtr+ 59 plate she has had hers for 3 years with no problems..but infuriatingly my c4 is going back were i bought it to get the gearbox fixed due to noise bearing..its under warranty :-) apart from that love it..

  • @bradstercivic
    @bradstercivic 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember going in one of these but it was diesel. I used to seat in the back and always felt queasy and always puked one way or another. Im glad this car got rep,aced by a newer Honda Odyssey.

  • @peterstayne3765
    @peterstayne3765 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love my C4 Grand Picasso 2.0 hdi heated leather electric seats,kids happy in the back watching dvd on the screens, comfortable cruiser

  • @wiktorblaszczynski7270
    @wiktorblaszczynski7270 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You forgoy to mension the little space in the floor in the back

  • @TheCarArchives96
    @TheCarArchives96 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    the 2006-present Citroen C4 Picasso is assembled in
    Vigo, Spain

  • @ken444
    @ken444 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    i want to know why he thinks the gear lever is awkward where it is, looks like its in the perfect place to me, a lot of american cars use to have them there,

    • @itzajdmting
      @itzajdmting 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes I'm actually looking at these cars now due to the convenient gear lever. Easier on my bad wrist than a traditional auto stick which can often be damn stiff.... even in brand new cars.

    • @Joshua-ez6cz
      @Joshua-ez6cz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He is reviewing the car based on his opinion I guess

  • @Camokittey
    @Camokittey 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i have no choice ,have to get egs (auto) as i can't drive manual . i pick it up next week, pre owned 59plate. must admit im a little nervous ,same engine size as my meriva but seems huge compared to it

  • @fat-shotgolf2937
    @fat-shotgolf2937 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any good for towing a caravan?

  • @LWCARAB
    @LWCARAB 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do the 2nd row of seats have isofix?

  • @russward3201
    @russward3201 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Decent turn ups bro

  • @cattleman6420012000
    @cattleman6420012000 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very good people carrier and a good looking vehicle.

  • @matty18972
    @matty18972 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wish we had these in America! :(

  • @danielclifton6140
    @danielclifton6140 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have the 1.6hdi semi auto and it's a wicked little van, I've surprised many a boy racer with it at lights and it handles really well for a tall bus

  • @Brandon-xp1ob
    @Brandon-xp1ob ปีที่แล้ว

    are these reliable?

  • @TheCarArchives96
    @TheCarArchives96 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    the engine on the 2006-present Citroen C4 Picasso
    Engine
    1.6 L DV6 HDi I4 (diesel)
    1.8 L I4 (petrol)
    2.0 L EW10 I4 (petrol)
    2.0 L DW10 HDi I4 (diesel)

  • @Lookbusybuddy
    @Lookbusybuddy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Which is more reliable citroen or renault. Looking at a grand scenic

  • @TheShift_OfEnergy
    @TheShift_OfEnergy 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:23 exactly what I was looking for :D

  • @zackrr1
    @zackrr1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a red One 2013 automatic Quite quick acceleration for a suv

  • @Dosadno_mi-je
    @Dosadno_mi-je 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had citroen c5 but I have this car

  • @MotorTorq_ZA
    @MotorTorq_ZA 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This and it’s cousin Peugeot 5008 are good lookers but I think the Citroen looks the best

  • @hursidisak4213
    @hursidisak4213 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nice Car!!!!

  • @hstclass43
    @hstclass43 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think u can get em in america but they're very rare. If u want 1 get it imported if u can afford the expenses

  • @rohimramesh7719
    @rohimramesh7719 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I have This car I drive yesterday nearly 280 km/h its fucking awesome

    • @subo__xav
      @subo__xav 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rohim Ramesh how on the world did you manage that, the one i have is struggling to do more than 170kmh...

    • @polak1982
      @polak1982 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In your dreams lol

    • @hamadiktata9620
      @hamadiktata9620 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Twk

    • @Sam_T_Diver
      @Sam_T_Diver 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      How much it is please?

  • @Leah-qt9nk
    @Leah-qt9nk 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im getting one in 3 more days

    • @hazrinsuhaimi2965
      @hazrinsuhaimi2965 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi ,how's your c4 picasso? How many kilometers? Still running good? Is it reliable? Thanks

  • @ainetierney5766
    @ainetierney5766 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a Ford S Max 2019 and Citroen c4 Grand Picasso 2011

  • @JBiggsofWSNC
    @JBiggsofWSNC 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I wish they sold them here in the US.

    • @Adamlol642
      @Adamlol642 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And you can’t legally import them 😬

  • @guypasquay3080
    @guypasquay3080 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    his name is mat watson?

  • @blueburaq
    @blueburaq 13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    yes.....theyre VERY easy to fold yet he groans when pushing the seats down

  • @NilsAusta
    @NilsAusta 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:21 this load area is not completely flat. You can clearly see that it goes up.

  • @tyraela115
    @tyraela115 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All are fine but for me:
    1st Citroen C4 Picasso
    2nd Peugeot 5008
    3rd Renault Scenic

  • @washingtonluis1770
    @washingtonluis1770 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any one know any thing about the spare wheel or how to get one no one talks about the spare wheel

    • @madelovinglycrochet
      @madelovinglycrochet 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      washington luis did you find out? We bought an 8 yr old one yesterday but not sure it has one?

    • @kramelbbiw
      @kramelbbiw 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Emma Blakeley No spare wheel in ours - it came with Citroën's version of tyreweld and and electric pump. The tyreweld has a shelf life but the branded stuff is cheap (less than a tenner, unlike the Citroën stuff)

    • @BricktopsPigs
      @BricktopsPigs 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kramelbbiw
      Spare tyre is hung underneath the rear of the car

  • @marvin7950
    @marvin7950 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good for a small van

  • @rustyfrombluey
    @rustyfrombluey 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now, you might be thinking this big dip is rather impractical, but fret not, because you can fold the backs down from the seats to create a completely flat load bay, turning your people carrier into a van! But it certainly doesn’t feel like a van upfront. For starters, it’s far too upmarket. -Mat Watson, 2010
    Yooka: Anyone watching in 2021?
    #respectVW #YookaLaylee

  • @rohimkaneshkumar4186
    @rohimkaneshkumar4186 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah rohim i have tuned my Citroen to 792 ps I drive today nearly 400 km/h but the parts was nearly falling off 😂😂😂

  • @NE0TIMELESS
    @NE0TIMELESS 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    good second hand car

  • @paulvirgil986
    @paulvirgil986 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, how do you turn on that fridge please..???!!!

  • @belgil6671
    @belgil6671 ปีที่แล้ว

    BALLA NAVE ESPACIAL AQUI NO BRASIL.

  • @thomasatkins6094
    @thomasatkins6094 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mine is black to but no silver lineing

    • @thomasatkins6094
      @thomasatkins6094 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      And we have a radio instead of a freezer

    • @Oceansandvineyards4752
      @Oceansandvineyards4752 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +Toothless Atkins automatic versions get a freezer and manuals don't . Every model has a radio

  • @jamalzinhu
    @jamalzinhu 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    0:12 for you

  • @Davve2210
    @Davve2210 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do people call car seats chairs??

  • @federico7745
    @federico7745 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    para familias numerosas

  • @sanity4613
    @sanity4613 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ford S-Max

  • @MintW7
    @MintW7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That death trap has gone to the scrap FD08 LDV

  • @vaderimperial
    @vaderimperial หลายเดือนก่อน

    omg is that Matt Watson?

  • @Hauntercry
    @Hauntercry 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice jeans m8

  • @federico7745
    @federico7745 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    no esta tan mal

  • @archibaldgeorge8916
    @archibaldgeorge8916 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    apples and oranges my man

  • @symente
    @symente 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    retunded back for Mat Watson

  • @Ace-vw6dn
    @Ace-vw6dn 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is my family's car

    • @shax232
      @shax232 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well its shit

    • @BarryShite25
      @BarryShite25 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shaf Hoque 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @Sam_T_Diver
      @Sam_T_Diver 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      How much it is please?

  • @ErwinEffinger
    @ErwinEffinger ปีที่แล้ว

    Had 2.0 hdi. Four Years . Turbo charger was broken. Lost 4.000 Euro. Sold it .

  •  10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    +aliangel105aa: _"This is my second car and I am 20"_
    - Did you smash your first one?

  • @sanity4613
    @sanity4613 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Vauxhall Zafira

  • @rustyfrombluey
    @rustyfrombluey 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This WILL be a sliding door hatchback, I think.
    Oh, okay, it’s not. Why, Lemmy, why.
    Yooka: Who’s Lemmy?
    #YookaLaylee!

  • @jantr95
    @jantr95 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @BadRoBi10 pa je še zmer rabljen. Novi so pa tam od 17k z vsemi popusti.

  • @mspulice
    @mspulice 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beware! I bought one of these and just under two years the panel bent without being in the sun. And the Citroen does not want to blame because the warranty has expired.

  • @lamborghinidrive
    @lamborghinidrive 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @gradimir12 How original :I . I am just trying to show an opinion, which i think is rightful, being this is a car review video..

  • @martinisaltirov7713
    @martinisaltirov7713 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    2009

  • @nurbsenvi
    @nurbsenvi 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really hope motor journalists could concentrate on comfort for vehicles such as this
    Who the fuck wants to corner at 0.87g in a van? who cares?
    4X4 cars and vans just needs to be comfy not sporty.

  • @sanity4613
    @sanity4613 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Renault Scenic

  • @SpiralSweep
    @SpiralSweep 14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is not a Picasso. It's a Grand Picasso

  • @sanity4613
    @sanity4613 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Peugeot 5008

  • @booharri
    @booharri 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Peugeot 5008 is better I had the grand Picasso for 2 years and it did feel like a van and the 5008 looks better

  • @thesavageone_3605
    @thesavageone_3605 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My Citron c4 broke down On The Moterway :( TWICE!!!!!

  • @tweecqproductions8276
    @tweecqproductions8276 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Geez dude... chill... you are like a hurricane when you are walking through the car

  • @DaniAmoBichos
    @DaniAmoBichos 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is not the picasso, this is the GRAND PICASSO. the PICASSO its my car and it is not like this

  • @newmabreu96
    @newmabreu96 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    citroen c3 picasso

  • @ryandever2355
    @ryandever2355 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ford Galaxy or smax

  • @guypasquay3080
    @guypasquay3080 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i think so...

  • @sanity4613
    @sanity4613 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Chevrolet Orlando

  • @federico7745
    @federico7745 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    el citroen picasso

  • @kelvinjameson1358
    @kelvinjameson1358 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Citroen grand Picasso 2010 Add blu

  • @sofiane6491
    @sofiane6491 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Vauxhall Zafira EcoFlex

    • @sofiane6491
      @sofiane6491 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ford Galaxy Ford S-Max

    • @sofiane6491
      @sofiane6491 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Volkswagen Sharan

  • @belgil6671
    @belgil6671 ปีที่แล้ว

    NOTA 10. PICASSO 2008...2009.

  • @tyraela115
    @tyraela115 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Import one! :)

  • @xxyvng6831
    @xxyvng6831 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This or volkswagen passat estate

  • @jantr95
    @jantr95 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @BadRoBi10 Ja rabljen.

  • @balexandre
    @balexandre 13 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    stupid review... it's a people carrier, why you would care about the fast turns?
    and you are talking about the Robotized Gears, that has a robot shifting gears, you dont like it: change to "M" and shift the gears yourself, there is still a full Automatic gearbox.
    it's a superb vehicle for families with 2 or more kids plus dog, like myself :)

    • @Cupat1
      @Cupat1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Some folk with them do drive quick especially if in it without brats

    • @paulvirgil986
      @paulvirgil986 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well said, just bought my second C4 grand Exclusive and love it!

    • @honestguy7764
      @honestguy7764 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Paul Virgil Im about to do the same. We own one of the firsts (Dec 06) and its now 300k kms. It is the 2.0, 138cv with the BMP (piloted gearbox) and its still strong. In theses last 12 years, we only had a couple of faults: the CPU died but could be repaired for €200, one clutch for €400 (I dont know if this is a fault or something subject to wear and tear.) and and both air hoses and mass to air sensor......not bad at all. Im looking now for a 163cv, with CAS ( sequential full auto gearbox). Let me tell you one thing: It doesnt have to be a Ferrari to need levers linked to the gearbox. You can down shift to a help the braking when driving down a mountain, or whatever you want.

    • @jonnnyonion
      @jonnnyonion 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey guys is manual mode quite responsive unlike auto mode with down shifts thank

  • @bottletree33
    @bottletree33 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    As soon as i found out it has the electronic parking break i switched off.

  • @sanity4613
    @sanity4613 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    SEAT Alhambra