Hey these videos are BIG TIME. I don’t know where “icons Remembered” got the money to put this together but these Van Halen videos are as artistic as Eddie Van Halen was. Your videos are on a whole nother level from anything I’ve EVER seen on TH-cam!
I believe David was an integral part to the bands success. Whether he was a good singer or not didn’t matter, he gave the band a swagger and attitude that would help propel them to the top
Agree. He gave them the drive to succeed too. Alex even admitted this in the 1985 Steve Rosen interview that was recently released. Even though he hated Dave at that point, he still admitted that he and Ed might have been making good music for a small audience if it wasn't for Dave's influence on the band.
@@iconsremembered I’ve been listening to more interviews from Dave recently, in his older years. The guy is highly intelligent and driven, the kinda guy that goes ”I like that, I want that, I’m gonna go get it”, humble too
I think possibly Ed once said their band were called ‘Bald’ at one point….They briefly became ‘Space Brothers’ because the name Trojan Rubber Company with its associated meaning with contraception offended a Catholic school they were playing in. And earlier ‘the Broken Combs’ was Ed on Piano and Alex on sax playing school assemblies with originals like ‘Rumpus’ and ‘Boogie Booger’…lol😊
@@walterevans2118 Yeah there were other band names - "the Sounds of Las Vegas" and "Bauld" were two others. That was confirmed on the tape I got of Alex. I didn't include all of them, because I think most only lasted a few days/weeks. Also, I'd painted myself into a corner with the timing 😉
I wasn’t sure what ‘a Van Halen was’ myself in the UK in 1978 when I was just 16….lol…At first when I saw their logo and pictures on the front cover of their debut vinyl I thought they were ‘sci-fi rock’ pronounced ‘Van Hallen’ as in the VAN ALLEN BELT around the Earth…Plus on the front cover Edwards B&W striped paint job on what I then assumed to be a Fender Strat looked SO FUTURISTIC & his PLAYING was like nothing on this Earth. I would play Eruption staring at that only one photo I had of Ed imagining what his hands would look like moving on the neck…When he did that low vibrato bar dip before the pause the first time I ever heard it I was terrified because I thought what I was hearing was the belt drive on the vinyl turntable snapping and the mechanism grinding to a halt …lol…Then by the time I peered at the turntable and saw it was still rotating the platter ED was making the guitar neck sound like a Bach Organ…At the time I couldn’t figure out how he was doing that . I wouldn’t find out until a year later seeing VH live at the Rainbow Theatre…But in a ‘Sounds’ uk music newspaper DLR had said of Spanish Fly -‘Ed has a way of playing around with the neck, and at one point you think that the record has gone onto the wrong speed (78 rpm) but this guy does it all LIVE.’ …Actually when I would pronounce the band ‘Van HALLAN ‘ as in Van Allen belt everyone would laugh at me and shout - (it’s ‘Van HALEN’! you fool ! )….but years later I learned that the DUTCH original pronunciation actually IS ‘VAN HALLAN’ …so idiot Evans was right all along 🤔….lol
Love these videos, especially the inclusion of the real audio! I also like that you're crediting the books that helped you (I have them all and enjoyed them, too).
Thanks a lot for saying that. Yeah I'm trying to use as much of the real interviews as people will give me permission for/as much I can get away with! It's the best way to tell the story truthfully and with some real atmosphere. Hope you'll enjoy the rest - the next part will be out later this week.
Thanks Kav! Yeah I love "Snake" as a band name 😁 Actually in the full interview where I got Michael Anthony saying it, he follows it up by sarcastically saying "very original name".
Outstanding video production! What we get to see here really puts a lot of the speculation and arbitration to rest. In the voices of the actual band members they acknowledge that the internal tension is what made it work. They were coming from different angles and they needed that to create the magic that they had. If everybody loves the same stuff it's going to be boring. Van Halen was anything but boring. The first six albums sold a combined 60 million copies. And they set the bar for what a rock band should be sonically and aesthetically. People always say Dave had a big ego, but his ego was not so great that he couldn't suggest that the band be named after Alex Van Halen. He didn't say name the band Roth. And you just heard it in his own voice his admiration and respect for Eddie Van Halen's virtuosity is what inspired him to up his own game so that he became the best front man in the business and 99% of rock fans around the world agree he may not have been the most talented vocalist, but he was able to hold his own and be the greatest frontman ever. We don't have to speculate on this, we heard it from them in their own words.
Thanks for such a nice and detailed response! I thought that the only way to do this was to use the band's own voices as much as possible to tell the story. I also don't want to offer opinions or conjecture with the voiceover, so that the accounts offered up are as true as possible. Of course things might end up murkier as the band becomes more fractious into the 80s, but when the band talk about their early days, they seem to be on the same page and I genuinely do think they were like a family between 1973-81. Dave definitely had a huge ego, and I'm sure he became very difficult to deal with by a certain point, but he's also never ever shied away from giving Ed, Al and Mike their due. Similarly, Ed was by all accounts a sweet guy with a great heart, but he wasn't always perfect. The challenge is trying to be honest and tell the truth, whilst not just slaughtering people and giving everyone the huge respect they all deserve. Thanks again for your comment 😊
Its sad , only recently Alex acknowledged that David Lee Roth was really important to the band . Dave left because they weren't getting along and took off . Yeah , Ed bragged about Sam being a better singer and all but I think Edward felt the same way about Dave . In other words as great as Sam did with the band , the band would have been better off if Dave stayed . And I wish he did stay . It would have been better . And that pisses off Captain Candyass Hagar .
@@AbeStephan Although they trashed Dave an unbelievable amount in 1985-86, I think the brothers both knew deep down that he'd been vital to their success, and that they'd been through a lot together. In my humble opinion, Dave was far more creative and had artistic edge over Sammy. They continued to be a good band with Sammy, but were never as culturally significant I feel. I always think of the relationship between the VH brothers and Dave as being like estranged family members. So not friends, and don't see eye to eye, but maybe still connected somehow on a deeper level.
@@iconsremembered They seemed pretty tight in that 2 part promo of ADKOT on TH-cam . They were talking about the club days and the most I ever heard them talking about the ripoff Warner Bros contract .
@@AbeStephan Yeah that seemed to be a good period for them. I think the recording of ADKOT was still fractious, but they weren't faking the camaraderie in those promo chats you mentioned. They also did a Japanese TV documentary the same year where they also seemed to get along. I think they were capable of getting along in later years, but only in small doses.
That's true up to a point. But in fairness, he did make it. He was a really driven individual and no matter how talented Ed and Al were, I do believe that they may never have made it the way they did without someone like Roth.
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Hey these videos are BIG TIME. I don’t know where “icons Remembered” got the money to put this together but these Van Halen videos are as artistic as Eddie Van Halen was. Your videos are on a whole nother level from anything I’ve EVER seen on TH-cam!
Money? Definitely none of that behind this 😁 But I'm really glad you like them. Very, very kind of you to say all that and it's appreciated!
This reminds me of stories from THE INSIDE MAGAZINE . Wish it was still published from time to time .
This is amazing! Again thank you! ❤
Edit…fabulous! truly well done!
You're very welcome, and thank you for saying so. Makes it all worth it when it means something to VH fans.
You are killin it with these VH videos. Great job and thank you.
Thanks man - appreciate it. Still love your username 😂
I believe David was an integral part to the bands success. Whether he was a good singer or not didn’t matter, he gave the band a swagger and attitude that would help propel them to the top
Agree. He gave them the drive to succeed too. Alex even admitted this in the 1985 Steve Rosen interview that was recently released. Even though he hated Dave at that point, he still admitted that he and Ed might have been making good music for a small audience if it wasn't for Dave's influence on the band.
@@iconsremembered I’ve been listening to more interviews from Dave recently, in his older years. The guy is highly intelligent and driven, the kinda guy that goes ”I like that, I want that, I’m gonna go get it”, humble too
I believe that you are right.
Gotta say I LOVE the way you put these together. ✌🏻
Forgot to write back to this before, but thank you! Much appreciated.
I’ve been a VH fan since 1979. Very good documentary! 👍🏻😎
If you've been a fan since 1979, then you've probably seen everything, so it means a lot when you say that - thank you!
Thanks, Good follow up! Keep em coming... 🙏🎼🎸
Thanks a lot - I'll try to!
Excellent…plus quoted sources is a great thing to do too…Plus I’d never heard DLR say he saw Edward as a musical mentor before.
I think possibly Ed once said their band were called ‘Bald’ at one point….They briefly became ‘Space Brothers’ because the name Trojan Rubber Company with its associated meaning with contraception offended a Catholic school they were playing in. And earlier ‘the Broken Combs’ was Ed on Piano and Alex on sax playing school assemblies with originals like ‘Rumpus’ and ‘Boogie Booger’…lol😊
@@walterevans2118 Yeah there were other band names - "the Sounds of Las Vegas" and "Bauld" were two others. That was confirmed on the tape I got of Alex. I didn't include all of them, because I think most only lasted a few days/weeks. Also, I'd painted myself into a corner with the timing 😉
I wasn’t sure what ‘a Van Halen was’ myself in the UK in 1978 when I was just 16….lol…At first when I saw their logo and pictures on the front cover of their debut vinyl I thought they were ‘sci-fi rock’ pronounced ‘Van Hallen’ as in the VAN ALLEN BELT around the Earth…Plus on the front cover Edwards B&W striped paint job on what I then assumed to be a Fender Strat looked SO FUTURISTIC & his PLAYING was like nothing on this Earth. I would play Eruption staring at that only one photo I had of Ed imagining what his hands would look like moving on the neck…When he did that low vibrato bar dip before the pause the first time I ever heard it I was terrified because I thought what I was hearing was the belt drive on the vinyl turntable snapping and the mechanism grinding to a halt …lol…Then by the time I peered at the turntable and saw it was still rotating the platter ED was making the guitar neck sound like a Bach Organ…At the time I couldn’t figure out how he was doing that . I wouldn’t find out until a year later seeing VH live at the Rainbow Theatre…But in a ‘Sounds’ uk music newspaper DLR had said of Spanish Fly -‘Ed has a way of playing around with the neck, and at one point you think that the record has gone onto the wrong speed (78 rpm) but this guy does it all LIVE.’ …Actually when I would pronounce the band ‘Van HALLAN ‘ as in Van Allen belt everyone would laugh at me and shout - (it’s ‘Van HALEN’! you fool ! )….but years later I learned that the DUTCH original pronunciation actually IS ‘VAN HALLAN’ …so idiot Evans was right all along 🤔….lol
Another awesome episode. Loving these… Keep em coming 🏆🏆🏆
Sorry about the late reply Martin, but thanks a lot for the kind words again mate. Much appreciated! Same to you with your stuff 👍🏻
well presented
Great job man!
Very well done videos !!
Thank you!
Thank you so much for the thanks! 😊 Glad to help in any way.
Will get in touch later if you're still interested in doing something for your show 🙂
Love these videos, especially the inclusion of the real audio! I also like that you're crediting the books that helped you (I have them all and enjoyed them, too).
Thanks a lot for saying that. Yeah I'm trying to use as much of the real interviews as people will give me permission for/as much I can get away with! It's the best way to tell the story truthfully and with some real atmosphere. Hope you'll enjoy the rest - the next part will be out later this week.
great video
Thanks again 😉
Another great part Simon😊 Looking forward to the rest of this series!
Thanks Dan 😉 You're my "set-up" audience member who always claps!
Haha😄. Well it's genuinely great so not very hard to be enthusiastic
great video again! love the early band names, my favourite being Snake! although it does sound more like an 80s trash metal band!
Thanks Kav! Yeah I love "Snake" as a band name 😁 Actually in the full interview where I got Michael Anthony saying it, he follows it up by sarcastically saying "very original name".
Incroyable
Unbelievable!
I do wish that Van Halen's actual music was in the video.
Outstanding video production! What we get to see here really puts a lot of the speculation and arbitration to rest. In the voices of the actual band members they acknowledge that the internal tension is what made it work. They were coming from different angles and they needed that to create the magic that they had. If everybody loves the same stuff it's going to be boring. Van Halen was anything but boring. The first six albums sold a combined 60 million copies. And they set the bar for what a rock band should be sonically and aesthetically. People always say Dave had a big ego, but his ego was not so great that he couldn't suggest that the band be named after Alex Van Halen. He didn't say name the band Roth. And you just heard it in his own voice his admiration and respect for Eddie Van Halen's virtuosity is what inspired him to up his own game so that he became the best front man in the business and 99% of rock fans around the world agree he may not have been the most talented vocalist, but he was able to hold his own and be the greatest frontman ever. We don't have to speculate on this, we heard it from them in their own words.
Thanks for such a nice and detailed response! I thought that the only way to do this was to use the band's own voices as much as possible to tell the story. I also don't want to offer opinions or conjecture with the voiceover, so that the accounts offered up are as true as possible. Of course things might end up murkier as the band becomes more fractious into the 80s, but when the band talk about their early days, they seem to be on the same page and I genuinely do think they were like a family between 1973-81.
Dave definitely had a huge ego, and I'm sure he became very difficult to deal with by a certain point, but he's also never ever shied away from giving Ed, Al and Mike their due. Similarly, Ed was by all accounts a sweet guy with a great heart, but he wasn't always perfect.
The challenge is trying to be honest and tell the truth, whilst not just slaughtering people and giving everyone the huge respect they all deserve.
Thanks again for your comment 😊
🤘🏾🤘🏾🤘🏾🤘🏾WELL DONE
Where have all the good Times gone
Where we left them.
👍👍👍
Or, they could have taken the 'Salad' off and called themselves Rat Halen.
Woulda been fitting when Hagar joined
Rat Salad would have ruined it
🤘🏻
Based on everything I’ve read, I believe Ed’s REAL reason for recruiting Roth was simply because he attracted more women to the gigs.😎
Surely that's a good enough reason 😉
And his amp .
too many bands named Rat Salad already
There was only one name for Van Halen…Van Halen. :)
Its sad , only recently Alex acknowledged that David Lee Roth was really important to the band . Dave left because they weren't getting along and took off . Yeah , Ed bragged about Sam being a better singer and all but I think Edward felt the same way about Dave . In other words as great as Sam did with the band , the band would have been better off if Dave stayed . And I wish he did stay . It would have been better . And that pisses off Captain Candyass Hagar .
@@AbeStephan Although they trashed Dave an unbelievable amount in 1985-86, I think the brothers both knew deep down that he'd been vital to their success, and that they'd been through a lot together. In my humble opinion, Dave was far more creative and had artistic edge over Sammy. They continued to be a good band with Sammy, but were never as culturally significant I feel.
I always think of the relationship between the VH brothers and Dave as being like estranged family members. So not friends, and don't see eye to eye, but maybe still connected somehow on a deeper level.
@@iconsremembered They seemed pretty tight in that 2 part promo of ADKOT on TH-cam . They were talking about the club days and the most I ever heard them talking about the ripoff Warner Bros contract .
@@AbeStephan Yeah that seemed to be a good period for them. I think the recording of ADKOT was still fractious, but they weren't faking the camaraderie in those promo chats you mentioned. They also did a Japanese TV documentary the same year where they also seemed to get along.
I think they were capable of getting along in later years, but only in small doses.
EVH
Camper Van Halen...anybody?
DLR is the poster boy for fake it till you make it.
That's true up to a point. But in fairness, he did make it. He was a really driven individual and no matter how talented Ed and Al were, I do believe that they may never have made it the way they did without someone like Roth.
That is a lot of albums sold for someone faking it.
Dave is a better songwriter than Captain Candyass Hagar .
Well you have a new sub here from Quebec !
Merci beaucoup! Really glad to hear ☺️