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*"I bet this was fun to shoot, though."*
It, it, it wasn't.
This was a nightmare shoot, legendary in Hollywood. Everybody lost their damn minds.
I caught that as well, It made me laugh just a little bit. Ashleigh you need to watch some of the videos about the making of the movie. Most of the people on the shoot won't even talk about it. It was that bad.
Yea, not so much. Cast and crew have referred to it as "The Abuse"
Made me laugh out loud and directly went looking for a comment like this ^^
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>> _Cast and crew have referred to it as "The Abuse"_
"Son of Abyss."
"Life's Abyss And Then You Dive"
The now-defunct podcast Friends in Your Head was film commentaries by Hollywood workers, including one guy who worked on this film. He had lots to say on their commentary for it.
The director's cut is so much better and explains what the critters were doing and makes Bud's sacrifice so much more important than anyone knew. This is one of my faves and never gets old, so glad you watched it.
The SPECIAL EDITION. Both versions are director's cuts, Jim has final cut on all his films.
Yep, I was going to say this. The extended edition explains much more, as it shows the aliens being the reason for all those catastrophical weather events. They want to get rid of humans, who wage wars constantly and now have their hands of nuclear weapons, threatening the whole planet, but Bud saves the day with his sacrifice, so they give us another chance. This makes more sense, than a regular edition of the film, where's too many loose ends and you keep asking yourself questions like "why the hurricane suddenly dissolved" or "why they even saved all those humans". It's obvious, that this single warhead wasn't really any threat to "alien city". When somebody is capable of controlling global weather or pulling the whole rig from a great depth while keeping the crew alive without depressurization, they would be able to render that warhead inert with a "snap of their fingers". It's clear, that they wanted to observe, if there's anything about humans that makes them worth saving.
Yes! Extended edition is my favorite ❤
You mean the stupid tidal wave thing? Hell no.
She said she is going to watch it. While I appreciate and share your enthusiasm for the special edition, the general etiquette on these reaction channels is not to give spoilers by telling the entire plot. @JanKowalski-rd7yb
"All you guys in 1989 must've lost your shit seeing this."
It was epic!
Except she said 1889.😂
@@christhompson2006 yep lol
I was 10. Saw it in the theater. I indeed lost my shit. 😮
I saw it in the theater 3 times lol. I was 13 and I loved it!
I saw it and while it was nice, I already seen Close Encounters of the Third Kind and Flight of the Navigator and a lot of things in The Abyss I already seen in those two movies.
Ashleigh: “I bet this was fun to shoot”
The Crew: we had T-shirts printed up with the logo changed to The Abuse
The scene with the rat breathing the liquid is real.
This scene almost didn't make in the movie due to using a real animal.
Although it definitely was a cool chemical demonstration. Unfortunately, the chemical itself is inefficient for oxygen transfer too heavy to sustain for continued "breathing"
It's usually cut whenever The Abyss is shown on TV. (Well, it is here in the UK)
It's been refused a re-release in the UK over it. The BBFC wanted it cut, but Cameron refused and simply pulled the the movie from distribution in the UK. Fucking sucks!!!
Yep, learned about it in Shadowrun. They use it in RE too. Mila did not enjoy it. Said it hurt her lungs to breathe it.
"I have the reflexes of a dead squirrel" is my new favorite Ashleighism.
Here's me cheering for the gamer @DeadSquirrel 😅😅
Yay! Someone slower than me.
I made up and use the phrase "I have the reflexes of a sleeping Sloth"
I'm stealing that phrase.
This movie is the reason Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio doesn't want to hear the name "James Cameron" again in her life
Quite a few people involved in the production, actually.
I just saw a Minty's Comedic Arts on this movie and he said Ed Harris still won't talk about it.
@@divemonkeys they were pissed because of the dying scene with Mary.
They realized Cameron was keeping them in the scene longer than needed. The slapping and her being exposed like that. + Excessive demands to have "perfect" shots under water. Anyway..... Cameron seems to a jerk. Just like the director for the shining (forgot his name) pushing the actress, psychology.
@@Fernando-dt8je
Kubrick.
@@Fernando-dt8je Stanley Kubrick. He and Cameron seem like MASSIVE pricks... but, goddamn it, they know how to make killer movies. It's said that true quality tells over time... much of their work still holds up, even decades later.
"So raise your hand if you think that was a Russian water tentacle" is one of my favourite movie lines ever!!
I laughed when you said it musta been a lot of fun. The filming of this was a living hell for the actors. During the CPR scene Mary Elizabeth Masteontonio actually walked off the set and refused to work for the remainder of the day. But Cameron did a lotvof the technology himself. He developed the helmets and its now common use in deep diving rigs. As others have pointed out there is a documentary about the making of the movie.
I did the same thing and was like, “Man, she’s got to watch the making of.”
Yeah they basically let the camera run out of film, but didn't say anything, just expected Harris to keep slapping her. I'd've walked off the set, too.
Harris is talking to a sand bag in this take.
The documentary is a movie unto itself, and I wouldn't mind Ashleigh reacting to THAT either. lol
@@videohistory722 Harris literally talked in interviews about how he was slapping Mastrantonio, looked up, saw that the camera had run out of film but they hadn't yelled cut.
Today was the day I found out there was a Director's Cut and that THAT was the version of the movie I grew up with on VHS, I didn't even know there was a theatrical version where they just return him without scaring the bejesus out of the world first.
The documentary is fantastic. It’s called “Under Pressure: The Making of The Abyss.” And the extended cut is also worth watching. It includes more content related to the aliens and their impact on the earth…and it explains their rescue of Virgil in greater detail.
Knowing the behind the scenes stuff makes watching it less enjoyable. Ignorance is bliss. If you like this flick, don't seek out the making-of stuff.
was totally going to reccomend this as well, especially when she said this looks like it was fun to make. I enjoyed the docu on this just as much as watching the film.
Sorry, I go the complete opposite way. Knowing the “production hell” that the actors went through makes it MORE enjoyable. I’ve heard of suffering for one’s art, but damn.
It's as thrilling as the movie.
Ash watch the real ending the making might make you mad at James Cameron. The other ending is much better gives love you wife more meaning
I was a sonar technician on a submarine. The sunken sub in this movie was the USS Montana SSBN 741. I was stationed on board the USS Wyoming SSBN 742. To answer your question, when we flush a toilet, the stuff goes into a holding tank. Every once in a while, we'll jettison the tank's contents out into the ocean. Interesting side note: the pump we use for our sewage is the same pump used in the Heinz factory to get ketchup from the vats to the bottles. The mechanisms, tubing, and machinery were perfect for this purpose. Oh, and since I left the Navy in 2011, I became an actor. I personally know Michael Biehn, who played the crazy commanding officer. And to let you know, the scene on the submarine where the people were trying to keep track of the alien's movements wasn't accurate. As a sonar technician, my job was to keep track of objects in the water. There's a lot of math involved in calculating range and speed of a contact. I didn't see anyone doing any math. The screens do not tell you range or speed. That is done with a grease pencil on a sheet of plastic.
Would it even be possible to track an object going that fast underwater with traditional SONAR calculations?
I know that you mean that Heinz uses the same MODEL of pump, but I can't help thinking they just buy the Navy ones cheap and give them a quick scrub.
@@3Rayfire I don't think so. We generally wait a few minutes and calculate their speed according to their position at two different times. The ATF might not even be able to keep up with an object going that fast.
@@cmlemmus494 I don't mean that Heinz uses Navy machinery. I mean that the Navy uses Heinz machinery.
@PaulLoh Sometimes the military just needs to ketchup with the private sector.
...alright, I'm punching out.
Another detail I loved about this film, the human aspect of it, is when Lindsey is chasing Coffee down in the rig, and they finally stop him. In the moment right before he falls, and he and Lindsey lock eyes for a brief moment. And then when his rig starts to shift, they both reflexively reach out to each other. I thought that was a really compelling, human moment. She didn't want him to DIE, she just wanted him to STOP doing the horrible shit he was doing! And despite his condition, and overall mindset, he still tried to reach to her for help. I dunno I just always really loved that moment.
His moment of clarity is heartbreaking!
Coffee isn't a bad guy, just a victim of pressure induced Psycosis. It is rather heartbreaking when he gets that small moment of clarity at the end. If only his subordinates had stood up to him beforehand, he could have survived to make a recovery... Though, without his attempt to nuke the NTIs, they never would have befriended them.
YES! I absolutely always loved that instinctive, hopeful, ultimately helpless reaction. Excellent acting choices.
I love how you get more southern when you're stressed.
The BAD GUY in this film is Michael Biehn. He also played the good guy saving Sarah Connor in "The Terminator", and was the crazy gunslinger killed by Val Kilmer in "Tombstone". Fine actor. James Cameron re-released this film in select theatres about a year ago in HD, and will be re-released for purchase on DVD in HD tomorrow. I purchased mine in advance. Saw this when it was originally released in theatres in the late 80's. Can't wait to see it in HD.
He was also Corporal Dwayne Hicks in Aliens. A very good guy.
And Corporal Hicks in "Aliens"
Don't forget Corporal Hicks in Aliens. He's great in everything.
I want a movie where the leads are Michael Biehn and Ed Harris
I bought this on DVD and made sure I got the one with the directors cut.
The guy you recognized in the wheelhouse of the ship is Chris Elliot. I thought you might know him as Dom, AKA Woogie from Something About Mary, or as Larry the cameraman in Groundhog Day. I never watched Schitt's Creek, so it's not something I would recognize him from. He was a writer on David Letterman when he started out, and would come on the show and do characters, which is how he started out. Also 1889? I'm pretty sure it was 1989. But you were close. When it comes to extended cut, this is a movie you need to see it. It explains why the aliens are apprehensive to save people. Also, interesting side not! All of James Cameron's movies start with the letter "A" or "T!"
In case you didn't recognize him, Coffey is Kyle Reese from Terminator, and Hicks from Aliens. Also, both those movies are directed by the same guy who directed this one: James Cameron.
"I bet this film was fun to make."
Oh you sweet summer child.
She seems to have missed the news last June.
One thing I really liked about Lindsey and Bud's relationship, is when the crane starts to fall over the side, and they're all starting to panic, and all composure is lost, what does Lindsey do? She calls out to Bud in a very scared voice. "Buuuud!?" because despite how much the two of them bicker, her reflexive thought is that if anyone in that crew knows what to do to survive, it's him. I thought it was a great little hint that she did still care for him. You had Bud's very obvious and apparent indication that he didn't give up on her, when he reaches in to recover his ring. But you never have an equivalent moment for her. Until that moment.
The extended version has an amazing sequence at the end when Ed Harris encounters the aliens. Totally worth it!
Ashleigh, the reason you can have water pools inside the underwater habitat, is really quite simple and fun to try out. Fill your kitchen sink with water, then put a glass turned upside down into the water. As long as the glass stays in that position, a pocket of air remains in the glass and someone inside the glass would see a "pool of water". However, turn the glass sideways and... blub, blub, blub.
It's a little more complicated than that but it's the same basic principle.
And the deeper you go, the more air pressure is needed in that air pocket to keep it from shrinking down from the water pressure pushing in. At these ocean floor depths, that's an enormous amount of pressure, which is why they would need weeks of decompression time in order to return to the surface.
At low depths that's pretty much it, but at higher depths it would not work due to prerssure. My assumption while watching this movie was that the pool is just a staging area, where you can get into your sub before driving it intou some kind of pressure chamber that leads outside.
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Actually, as long as air pressure equals water pressure, the internal pool would remain in place. No pressurized hatch is required.
@@WhiskyCanuckYeah, that "3 weeks to decompress" line was even said in the movie and in the final seen you see every single one of the crew members from the bottom of the ocean simply walk out into sea-level atmosphere like decompression doesn't exist.
I know they had to do it for movie magic to help rapidly close the movie off...but still. Didn't like them glossing over their own science like the viewer wouldn't remember (to be fair 90% of watchers didn't notice and don't know the first thing about actual diving and pressure).
@@wal6377 Right. Water and air have no qualms about equalizing against each other. It's the human lungs, eardrums, etc. that are going to protest in that environment.
When Catfish knocks Coffey out, that is my favorite sucker punch ever in a movie!
This movie was so great, but I also had so many unanswered questions (before the Directors Cut was released) so I read the book.
His wedding ring saved him at the door because it was made of titanium. (Mine is too because of this movie).
When Bud was running out of oxygen on the ledge, there was an argument happening among the aliens. The one was saying they needed to save him because he saved them by disarming the bomb. ALL of the others were going with retaliation... Against our whole species. "He" was able to change their minds by showing them Bud's message to Lindsay about his love for her and the crew. That's why they replayed it to him. In an attempt to explain why he, and humanity, was saved. And, yes, they are the ones that "shut down" the hurricane.
Do not waste your time with the Extended Cut. The Theatrical version is a cool Sci-fi movie. The Extended version completely ruins this movie because it's a Protest anti-Nuke movie.
If pressure change had killed them there wouldn't be much left of the bodies. Implosion doesn't leave many pieces. The sub filled with water at a (relatively) shallow depth. Most of the sailors probably drowned before the sub slid down the side of the mountain. The sub crew work at an air pressure that is roughly the same as the surface. So, if the sub is breached, the outside water pressure forces the water into the sub. The oil crew, on the other hand, are breathing air that is the ~same~ pressure as the surrounding water. This is why they have an open bay on the bottom of the rig that they can swim in and out of. (Like putting a glass upside down in water). The reason the crew have to spend a long time in a decompression chamber when they reach the surface is to get rid of excess Nitrogen in the blood. Liquids (like blood) can dissolve more gas when under pressure. Think of a can of coke. When you open it the gas comes out as bubbles. If you don't decompress, the same thing happens with the Nitrogen in your blood. It forms bubbles in the bloodstream. They tend to concentrate in the joints, so your body curls up. Which is why they call it "The Bends". Putting a person suffering The Bends into a pressure chamber forces the gas back into the blood. Then you reduce the pressure ~very~ slowly until the excess Nitrogen is removed by respiration.
Also, if the people on the rig were to suddenly come up to surface level, they'd literally explode. At the very least their organs would explode due to being pressurized for that depth and having a sudden release of that air pressure. That's why on the rare occasion when they bring fish up from extreme depths, they poof out and die.
@aaronburdon221 this actually happened to some saturation divers on a rig back in the 80s.
It’d be hilarious if excess nitrogen were removed by, say, flatulence. 🎺
It's a movie. It's just entertainment, and it's called SCIENCE FICTION. Get a grip.
@@aaronburdon221Characters in the movie comment on that and come to conclusion that it is due to the aliens' water tech.
So many films had underwater themes during this time: The Abyss, Leviathan, Deep Star Six, Lords of the Deep...
Just to name a few.
The filming of this movie was one of the hardest things ever. I’m pretty sure Ed Harris almost died. There is a great documentary about it.
Also there is a book of the film, by Orson Scott Card. The first chapters give great back stories to the main characters, especially Coffee.
Every movie shows people using a defibrillator the wrong way. You only use it in certain situations. You don’t use it when someone is is in a systole. Or when lying in water
The YT channel "It Was A S*it Show" has a really good doc on this movie. The making of was some kind of Geneva Convention violation.
So does GoodBadFlicks.
I can remember a few times after this came out that instead of saying be patient some people would say “Keep you pantyhose on.”
It didn’t matter if the other person was male or female.
Fun fact, I watched this live in theaters when it came out, a week before I reported to US Navy Submarine school. Gave me the willies, and to this day that open sequence, followed by the accident on the rig is nightmare fuel.
You saw it live? That sounds like quite the stage production.
The breathing fluid is a real thing - the US Navy messed with this sort of thing back in the 1960s and it's been much more refined since, but although it works, it is said to cause long term lung damage, which makes a lot of sense
My guess is that it messes hardcore with the really TINY elements of the lungs down near where the blood/oxygen interface is. The tissues there are more fragile than cotton candy. Literally - Cotton candy is strong enough to maintain it's shape unsupported. The tissues I'm referring to would collapse immediately into an unorganized mess without the support of the larger structures of the lungs.
Probably safe enough to use the fluid once or twice BRIEFLY. But would probably take months of recovery to get back to full normal capacity even then.
The ring is either titanium or tungsten.
This movie is the reason why men want a "symbol of love" that's stronger than gold.
...strong enough to save my life
My wife and I had titanium wedding rings made because of this movie.
What they *don't* mention is that if you put on weight, you can't get them resized. 😥
@@RobWVideo Yep. I'm a bench jeweler at a small jewelry studio, and you wouldn't believe the number of times we get asked to resize titanium rings.
@@jodonnell64 Easier to resize the person. :)
Titanium per Orson Scott Card, who did the novelization, and was allowed to discuss back stories with the 3 main actors on the set.
In the book Bud was thinking about the ring as he was walking around and how it was custom made from titanium used to make the rig (if I am remembering right, been a long time) and how impractical he thought it was to use that metal. Then when it saved his life you understood why it did so.... BTW, in the book the first few chapters covers all the main characters as children, so you understand why they think and do what they do as adults.
So glad you finally got to this movie. I’ve wanted you to see this since I first stumbled upon your channel 2 years ago. When I found out you were going to watch this I wanted to know which version you were going to watch first because that usually determines which version you like better, I saw the theatrical version first and I like that one better. I’m curious to see which one you like better
In the late 70's/early 80's there was a TV show called "That's Incredible" which showed/interviewed amazing people and things. On one episode there was a guy from the Navy who had some of the oxygenated liquid. He actually did the rat trick on stage to show that mammals could breath liquid. It was more than experimental but not quite common knowledge at that time. They were talking about how you can't really use oxygen in gas form at great depths and they were trying to find ways to explore deeper in the oceans than ever before.
I can't believe someone else remembers that. Good on you.
Liquid breathing IS a thing.
Ed Harris didn't do it...... intentionally.
Yeah... A lot of the cast hated being in this movie, and refuse to talk about it.
It's a shame in a way. Because it's a brilliant, awesome, incredible movie, but if your cast feel they were treated inhumanely to get the results, can you justify?
No! But dayyyum, the results are good.
Regarding the director's cut... You know how people over-exaggerate how the new cut will "totally change the tone of the film"? erm.. yeah... 100% true in this case (regarding the NTis)
As for the main character's, nah, you're not missing much.. for the NTI's... some WILDLY big differences
The oxygenated fluid is real. They actually used some in the rat scene.
So they genuinely put a rat in oxygenated water? That's kind of messed up when you think about it.
@@neil2444 They weren't physically harmed, just traumatized... for our entertainment.
@@neil2444 They did it in RE to Mila. She said it hurt her lungs.
@@neil2444at one time it was looked for a possibly being a treatment for premie babies who’s lungs hadn’t fully formed.
@@neil2444 It's not water, it's perfluorocarbon.
The Critical Drinker has a series on his youtube channel called 'Production Hell', where he does sorta mini-documentaries on movies that had particularly troubled productions, like 'Apocalypse Now' and 'Predator' and especially 'The Abyss'... It's really worth a watch, as is all of his channel, some of the funniest movie reviews EVER, and a lot of smart commentary on a variety of interesting subjects. But apparently the 'Lindsey dies' scene was BRUTAL, making her storm off the set and saying she quit!
“Why are you freakin out about crabs?” “I hope that’s Not what she said.”
Yeah, about 3 seconds after she freaked out about the damned crab!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!
Sweet reaction. I was completely amazed when I saw the abyss as a kid. The special effects and CGI were far ahead of anything the world had yet seen. I still think the normal version is better that the other version that has some of the scenes that were cut. The extra scenes seem to me to be not needed and they give you a different vibe from the beings that inhabit the deep abyss. I place this film very high on the best films ever list. The scene when the woman gets brought back to life shows some outstanding acting that deserves credit. Generally great acting by the entire cast and the director's iron will and amazing imagination shined bright for sure. The film is a winner in every possible way including the sound design, props, acting, camera work, costumes, lighting, casting, script writing, CGI, & make up. A true masterpiece for all time.
“Thalassophobia” is the fear of deep bodies of water.
Regarding the liquid breathing, the rat actually *was* doing it, in a tank filled with $400 of actual oxygenated PFC liquid. They shot the scene 5 times, with 5 different rats, and all came through unharmed. For Ed Harris, the initial scene with the helmet filling was just pink-dyed water and he had to mime breathing it. For the underwater scenes, he had a helmet with a pink-tinted faceplate that flipped up. He would wait with a scuba mouthpiece until they were ready to start filming, then remove it and flip the faceplate down. He would then do the scene while holding his breath and when they yelled cut he would flip the faceplate up and a safety diver would swim in and give him the mouthpiece again. They had an underwater sound system so that all the divers could hear the directions called out by the production team.
The helmet Ed Harris was wearing had two layers of glass for the visors, with the water flowing in between them. His head stayed dry.
I think it would have been easier and safer just to make a double walled clear faceplate for the helmet and fill the space between them with the liquid. Well, that's how I would have done it.
Hey! They took my idea!😂
I love Michael Beihn (Coffee, the pressurized psycho here). Loved everything I’ve seen him in. Terminator, Aliens, Tombstone, etc.. I only wish he’d had more roles.
Highly recommend the director's cut for this one. You don’t see more of the aliens, but there's a whole extended ending that had to be cut out for the theatrical and a lot of little character moments sprinkled throughout.
If it's not the Director's cut it's not worth watching. That's why it failed in the theatre. Back in 89 we all felt like the ending was cut off. Studio interference.
@@reesebn38I disagree, for me the extended ending is a little too “deus ex machina”, and I prefer having this ending where the aliens remain more mysterious in their reasons and purpose. I view the directors cut more as the coolest deleted scene ever, but IMO it feels a bit too over the top and divorced from the rest of the film.
I hate the directors cut. Except the bit on the beach when the giant wave hits and one of the extras pulled his mates shorts down!
Not so much "highly recommend", as it is the only version to watch. The theatrical release had a lot of critical scenes cut from it.
Theatrical version is a cool Sci-fi movie. Extended version ruins it by making it just a protest movie, that actually adds nothing to the story but instead distracts from it.
This is one of those "hard bootleg turns" movies where you never knew exactly what was going to happen from one moment to the next. Also: what happened to Coffey in the submersible? Is what happened to the Oceangate Titan submersible. At least it was quick! Also the second: if you enjoy suspense and being scared, another great classic for you: The Andromeda Strain (1971). It's SO GOOD, but MAN, you're on the edge of your seat the entire time.
The implosion depicted here took about 50 times longer that the OceanGate accident.
The two water tanks used in the filming of The Abyss were specially constructed to hold large amounts of water. The first tank, based on the abandoned plant's primary reactor containment vessel, held 7.5 million US gallons of water and was 18 m deep and 70 m across. At the time, it was the largest fresh-water-filtered tank in the world. Additional scenes were shot in the second tank, an unused turbine pit, which held 2.5 million US gallons of water. As the production crew rushed to finish painting the main tank, millions of gallons of water poured in and took five days to fill. The Deepcore rig was anchored to a 90-ton concrete column at the bottom of the large tank
So, the thing about the drowning... the reason you throw drowning people some sort of flotation aid or a rope rather than go directly to try and pick them up is that they are in full on panic, and will literally climb on top of a rescuer, pushing them under, while kicking and flailing around, which kind of breaks rule 1 of first aid, which is "don't become a casualty yourself".
But once you're away down at the bottom of the ocean, it is at least so cold that it takes longer than the 'standard' 4 minutes of anoxia before irreversible brain damage happens.
So, combining these 2 things, if she's drowned in very cold water, she won't struggle while Bud drags her back to the rig (which she would if she failed to hold her breath and started drowning half way), and there's more time available to revive her once they're back. They're in a pretty grim situation, and her logic is that slim chances beat no chances.
We have a saying here in Canada when it comes to drowning: You're not dead until you're warm and dead.
You do need to see the Director's cut. The theatrical version eliminated an entire subplot that will explain why the NTI's were willing to help Bud. The Director's Cut also has an incredible special effects scene that is not in the theatrical version. Also, the "making of" documentary is very interesting.
"You're never dead, until you're warm and dead." I don't recall the time, but I think it was a kid was "dead" from drowning in an ice pond, and they revived him without brain trauma like 20 minutes later.
This has started thoughts of emergency procedures for rescue workers that if the person is recently dead or about to die, they want to "deep freeze" the body, for resuscitation later in the hospital. Which is what Lindsay was saying to convince Virgil to let her drown.
That's happened quite a few times in recorded medical history. It happened not long ago in Lake Saint Louis, Missouri. The kid was pulled out and CPR performed after 27 minutes. It didn't work. He was pronounced dead and his mother began praying loudly according to reports. Then a pulse was detected. To my knowledge he's grown and has suffered no ill effects. This story was told in the movie "Breakthrough" starring Topher Grace. I've never seen it. I don't intend to. Religious propaganda. If it was a miracle, then call it a MEDICAL miracle or file it under the heading of "Shit Happens".
That's a mantra we have in EMS and wilderness rescue. They're not dead until they're warm and dead.
@@body_by_depuy This is also why serious money has been spent on developing ice helmets for people who have suffered strokes. Last I heard, the idea hadn't advanced very far, because they couldn't figure out a way to get the middle of your brain cold enough without freezing the outer part. Tough luck. But real medical scientists put real time and effort into trying to figure out how it might be done, because the cold can definitely make a difference.
I heard that, you want the water to be freezing and to be salt water, if its fresh water then it won’t work or something like that.
I remember seeing a show on one of those "fell through the ice" incidents and the person was revived after 45 minutes.
"that man plays a crazy person better than anyone I've ever seen"
he played a hero in Aliens and in Terminator 1! Just shows Michael's acting range! He went back to scary in Tombstone as well!
fantastic reaction, your energy adds to each scene, thanking yous!
Out of all the various late 80s movies that had the underwater adventure theme, this one is the best.
I always loved the scene where the creatures save Bud, and it's shown that they know he saved them.
I agree this is the best of the three underwater movies. Deep Star Six and Leviathan were fun but not as good.
@@dpcnreactions7062 I especially can't watch Deep Star Six.
The only good thing about that movie is Peter Weller.@@darrenheideman2546
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Leviathan would make for a great Hallowbeans scifi/horror film though!
I prefer Sphere, but The Abyss is second.
This was one of my favorite movies when I was a kid. I am glad you liked it! After you finish Firefly you should watch The Expanse. It is excellent.
"I bet this was fun to make." No. Not at all.
Nuclear weapons won't accidentally blow. They have to be armed and triggered.
The directors cut is very long, but much better.
The liquid breathing fluid is real and it was used on the rat. But when it came to Ed Harris using it approval was denied due to risk of pneumonia or other lung related complications. In hindsight, what they did do was possibly more dangerous.
The helmet was filled with water and he had to hold his breath. I believe he could hold it for around two minutes but don’t quote me on that. Then he would go into the tank that they were filming the ocean scenes in. Now, whenever he needed to breathe, he would make a preset gesture and a support diver would swim in and pull the faceplate off and offer him oxygen through his S.C.U.B.A. gear’s breathing tube. So he had zero access to oxygen through any means of his own control. And then there was the time when the support diver got hung up . . .
42:30 Liquid Breathing
the technology is real, they used real breathing liquid for the rat.
for Bud's scenes in the suit though, I guess the stuff was too expensive so they just had him hold his breath through each shot.
it's main use is in medicine for premature babies who's lungs cannot yet handle air. Whether or not it is also used by Marines for deep diving is probably Classified.
I've heard it's not practical for adult humans. It's something about the oxygen exchange rate not being efficient enough for larger animals. That's why rats (and, I guess, preemie babies) can use it but an adult person can't.
It was a trick with the suit...He wasn't holding his breath.
@@TheMess1998 Yes he was, go watch the Making Of documentary.
Yeah, I'm sure the insurers were fine with a human breathing experimental fluid.
Every time I see this film I get it confused with 'Sphere'. A much better film IMO.
Sphere is pretty wild!
Would love to see a Submarine poll, I nominate Das Boot.
She might like "20,000 Leagues Under the Sea" (1954), for an old timey Walt Disney fantasy film based (loosely) on the Jules Verne's 1870 novel.
A number of other reactors have done "The Hunt For Red October". (I thought she already did too, but apparently not.)
Das Boot, Murphy's War, Gray Lady Down, U-571...think she's already seen The Hunt For Red October.
Also, In enemy hands and The enemy below. Or Down Periscope and Operation Petticoat for more funny ones. Who knew there were so many submarine movies 😂
Absolutely - the best of all time
You really need to watch the director’s cut of this movie. It makes SO much more sense regarding the tension on the surface and the abilities of the underwater “aliens.” The difficulties in making of this movie were the stuff of legend. The crew had shirts made saying they survived making it. Yes, James Cameron has become famous for being difficult and demanding to an extreme, but he has also made some great movies.
"Maybe they're all just crazy." Yup, lol. Based on every spec ops cat (any branch) I ever met, they are in fact, nuts to the last man. Brave, useful to have around, highly trained and motivated, and utterly batshit. 😂
I’ve heard that doctors don’t consider you dead until you’re WARM and dead. In other words, cold, or a hypothermic reaction, does wonders for prolonging brain function.
As a retired Navy Sailor, I understand the military jargon being used. Lol. I worked with a lady in Chesapeake VA whose father was killed when USS Scorpion was lost in 1969.... Ashleigh, the human waste on ships and subs goes to what is called a CHT tank. These tanks hold the wastes, breaks it down to brown water to be pumped overboard once the ship/sub gets over 12 miles off any coasts.
I thought it was 25. I know 50 or more, anything but plastics.
Hey, I'm from Chesapeake!
@@Clownboy15 I lived in Chesapeake for 2 years off Military Highway...
@@RetiredSailor60 sounds like you were in Deep Creek, my neck of the woods! Though I live in Portsmouth now.
@@Clownboy15 Sounds about right. 1st lived in Virginia Beach area off Princess Ann Rd and Lynn Haven Parkway
Lindsey is not a Knock off Gena Davis. She's Mary Elizabeth Masterantonio. She was in Robin Hood with Kevin Costner, Scarface with Al Pachino, Witness for the Prosecution, The Perfect storm, The January man, Class Action, Coffee, is Michael Bean, who was Johnny Ringo in Tombstone, He was in Terminator, etc Bud is Ed Harris, who was Major John H.Glenn in The Right Stuff and General Francis S Hummel in "The Rock" Gene Kranse in Apollo 13, etc, . LOL I always do that in under water scenes, Hold my breath as long as they hold theirs. ... Good review. Thumb's up. I Love Lindsey. I alwayse did like'em just a Leetle bit Bitchy.... But that's just me.
Ashleigh: "I bet this was fun to film though."
Me: *almost chokes on my food*
The director of photography Mikael Salomon did some of the most amazing shots of this era in this one and Ron Howard’s “Backdraft”. He was a true magician with a camera
I'm so sad that you didn't see the Director's Cut. There is a whole subplot with the aliens that makes everything at the end make a bit more sense. Cameron was forced to cut it due to run time. There is a great documentary about the making of this movie, you and hubbin would love it.
I personally think the Director's Cut spoils it. lol
The whole thing with the movie was the claustrophobic atmosphere on the submersible rig etc.
When they showed the "top-side" World for a few minutes, it totally took me out of the vibe.
I don't personally think it needed any extra explanation.
But I'm sure I'm biased, because I didn't even KNOW the Director's Cut existed, for about 12 years after the movie's release. lol
But yes, the documentary is a must-see.
Totally unique movie, and a very rough production.
A movie like this is never likely to happen again, at least not with so many in-camera diving shots.
Any movie similar to this now, is likely to have far more CG / compositing.
Eat breathing liquid was real. Some people consider it to be animal cruelty, you or I could breath that fluid, it wouldn’t be comfortable.
I cry at Lindsey dying every single time. James Cameron is a genius. Glad you liked it
Crazy Navy SEAL is played by Michael Biehn. aka Reese from Terminator.
Water scatters the different wavelengths (colors) of light at different depths, but blue is the one color that can penetrate water the deepest, which is why deep water almost always looks very blue.
James Cameron makes movies and makes groundbreaking advances in camera technology to support is oceanography habit.
I always loved the way they kept his hand blue for the whole movie.
The Directors cut is better... the end is explained better! You will see how the critters can control water and there are massive waves held in place...
This movie is awesome - I loved it from the beginning but the directors cut is just amazing and fills in a bunch of bits that got left out.
I love this movie And I want to see hubbin and you react to the director's cut please please please!
4:35 you asked if they're doing that stuff underwater yes they are actually underwater for most of it.
They took an uncompleted and abandoned nuclear power plant and turned it into a giant water tank. And the actors use actual scuba gear and mini subs.
5:38 you asked if they were towing it. Is being towed by the surface ship. You know, The one and they landed the helicopters on.
7:39 if you took a glass and put the top down in a container of water it would trap a bubble of air, It's just a more elaborate form of that. Basically the air in the base is at the outside water pressure, which keeps the water from rising in the pool, which by the way is what they call it. If they get a hole in the air filled part The water in that pool will start to rush in how quickly depends on the size of the hole
15:04 I laughed so hard thinking about Garfield staring out into the void, into the abyss, and it's staring back as him.,.😅😅
Yes the liquid breathing is a real thing those rats really did breathe that.
and nearly killed people because it wasn't well thought out. No filtering or chlorination so it became a bacteria filled cesspool and still was making the actors film in it.
James Cameron designed the dive suits himself because he wanted the audience to see it was the actual actors doing the diving and not a stunt person.
The site of the uncompleted power plant was in Gaffney, SC, the town that has a peach shaped water tower that looks like a butt from the right angle.
Ashleigh, this is your best and most suitable hairstyle ever! BEAUTIFUL !
One of the best Sci-fy movies ever made!!! Fantastic.
Director's cut is, not this thing.
What do the Titan submersible and Jack have in common?
They both wish that they could have Rose...
James Cameron designed a sub that he took to the bottom of the Mariana Trench, which had a depth of 7 miles roughly.
Don't you go disrespecting Geena Davis, now @awkwardashliegh
J/k!
Unlike an airplane, when you flush a toilet on a ship or submarine, it goes into a "holding tank" or "black water tank."
The reason the water in a toilet is "so blue" is because that water has an added treatment (similar to the blue tablets you put in your toilet tank, but highly concentrated) for sanitary purposes.
Mostly to kill the stench. I have that in a holding tank on my sailboat.
What do you mean, "unlike an airplane?" Airplanes also have holding tanks for their toilets. You don't seriously believe they just dump out into the air, do you?🙄
If they are more than 25 miles out from shore, they can just pump it over the side.
German U-Boat U-1206 in WWII sank because someone flushed its toilet. The crews had complained that the toilet wouldn't flush below a certain depth -- there were even safeties to prevent it -- so somebody came up with a complicated rig of tanks and compressed air to allow it to flush at depth. But the rig was so complicated they had to have a specialist on board to work it.
Well, someone couldn't wait for the specialist to flush, and screwed things up so bad they opened all the valves between the ocean and the people tank. Water rushed in, got to the boat's batteries, and they started to release chlorine gas. They surfaced, were spotted by the British, were bombed, and then took to life rafts and sank the boat.
@@DarthMohammedRules
I guess you've never heard about frozen airplane waste that fell to earth and put a hole through someone's roof?
Yes, airplanes have a holding tank, but they drop trow at altitude almost immediately. the holding tank is for when they are recently taken off or about to land (low altitude).
Technically, it was a bad comparison on my part, because airplanes DO have holding tanks, but as I said, it is mostly used for low altitudes only. Whereas subs and ships use the holding tank all the time and empty it in specific locations.
Give the Kevin Costner movie Dragonfly a shot. A supernatural movie with a great plot twist.
This is one of those films that you can watch multiple times and you never get bored of it. So good!
Didnt like this movie, BUT sometimes I like movies through your perspective.
21:12 You can't just swim up to the surface from having been so far down, it takes a long time to decompress, otherwise you suffer from the bends and the narks.
26:58 This was the first appearance of the liquid special effects that were later used for the T-1000 in Terminator 2.
Solutions for Liquid Ventilation. The first reports of mammalian survival during breathing of oxygenated perfluorocarbon (PFC) liquids came from Clark and Gollan in 1966. Additional work has demonstrated that mammals can successfully breathe these liquids and subsequently return to air-breathing conditions.
“If that rat dies “ 0 outta 5 stars. That’s me too lol
The directors cut adds so much more to this movie. It's a completely different movie almost. I could never watch the theatrical again after seeing the directors version.
Interesting facts about The Abyss (1989) (1) The fluid breathing system that the rat is subjected to in the film does actually exist and has been tested thoroughly on animals. However, Ed Harris did not actually breathe the fluid, although there were sequences in which he had to hold his breath in a helmet full of fluid while being towed beneath the surface of the tank. (2) A few stunt people were used during the shooting. For example, Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio actually held her breath for Harris to drag her underwater. The scene where Catfish (Leo Burmester) fires a machine gun into the water was accomplished using live rounds and extreme safety precautions. (3) Industrial Light & Magic made its name creating the “water tentacle” after Phil Tippett referred Cameron to them to provide computer-generated visual effects. For what amounted to 75 seconds of computer graphics, ILM worked for six months, photographing the set comprehensively to recreate it in a computer and composite the animation into each frame. In fact, this was one of several sequences so demanding to complete that the film’s release was delayed by more than a month. (4) For financial reasons, the “Deepcore” rig set was never dismantled after production wrapped. After the power plant was drained, it remained at the location until 2007, when it was demolished. (5) To expedite shooting and maintain the safety of the cast and crew, actors performed scenes at just 33 feet and rarely for more than an hour at a time, eliminating the need for them to decompress in between scenes or sequences. The production additionally hung actors from hoses where they could breathe pure oxygen to help avoid decompression sickness.
It's ok Ashleigh, most of us know very little about submarines.
You will LOVE the director's cut. When trimming for time, Cameron decided to focus on the love story, but the "aliens" and the storm are a fantastic element that's missing in the theatrical cut. Also, that scene with Bud talking to the aliens makes a lot more sense.
Oh, hell yes. The director's cut is a really great addition to the rest of the great movie. Not that it was a pleasant movie to shoot, and Cameron must have been an incredible pain in the ass about it. But the result was amazing.
These scenes were not trimmed for time exactly. The special effects were not completed in time to hit the studio dictated release schedule. ILM completed them for the Laserdisc deluxe set and subsequent theatrical re-releases. The extended cut became the director's cut. Cameron had these scenes hot spliced back into the original camera negatives.
The ending is alot more satisfying in the director's cut
Exhibit Z that James Cameron gets to do whatever he wants. If he wants a special effect in his movie, he gets it.
After many years of being promised, The Abyss is being released tomorrow (March 12, 2024) in 4K! True Lies and Aliens are also getting the Ultra HD treatment.
Yeah well, let's see....
The extended cut is the real cut. Theatrical is still good, but an entire subplot got removed.
The face she made and then froze when Bud cut the wire, I legit 🤣 😂 🤣 ☠️ .
48:03 - Dang Ash, this movie is older than I thought! 1889, huh? 😂
Ashleigh: If that rat dies during this movie. 0/5 stars.
Me: Well... it didn't die *during* this movie.
It lives happily in a farm now. Now go to bed.
This movie (in the theatre) was MIND BLOWING at the time... It's STILL so good... Glad you got to see it!
The Abyss is so scary, the actors refused a sequel.
They refused because Cameron was a nightmare and almost killed them all. He and Ed Harris got in a fist fight at one point, I believe, and Ed and Mary Elizabeth refuse to talk about it to this day.
TO BAD Ashleigh , watched the wrong version, THE EXTENDED CUT is a masterpiece .
ASHLEIGH, needs to watch the extended version because there is an entire subplot with the ABYSS ALIENS that was removed from the cinema release , also watch the making of this film , IT WAS A NIGHTMARE .
The ending is more satisfying
38:51 - I think Ashleigh missed the point of the scene here. Lindsey wasn't holding her breath, she was drowning, intentionally, so that Bud could get her back and revive her.
I'll tell you right now. Just watch Tootsie. You're going to love it.
Fantastic movie. The director cut is worth checking out mainly because it adds story context that is missing.
The scene where Lindsay drowns and Virgil works extremely hard to save her life is so intense/emotionally moving. ED Harris performance in that scene was completely believable/ Amazing. Weird to see Kyle Reese actor (Michael Biehn) as the villain Lt. Coffey. The water tentacle mimicking Lindsay's face was new cgi technology in 89. James Cameron used a version of that CGI technique in T2 to create the T-1000 Terminator.