Skullgirls Ease Of Execution Tier List

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  • Hey guys another day another upload by yours truly. i always wonder if people even read these so if u do put a comment with the word "rutabaga" in it so ik ur a real one. so this was kinda low effort content while we work on the next big SKUGS vid. i hope u enjoy this and soon imma put my money where my mouth is and stream me learning bands bnb so look for a community post where i annouce that the day this comes out. ty for sticking with this channel even if our upload schedule is trash. joel and i love making these vids and we would be doin it even without viewers so yall really mean a lot to me. i hope u enjoy this and have a wonderful day
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    0:00 what the list is
    2:13 Annie
    3:10 Big Band
    4:37 Squigly
    6:19 Eliza
    7:38 Double
    9:04 Umbrella
    10:41 Parasol
    12:03 Fukua
    13:34 Robo Fortune
    15:43 Valentine
    16:44 Fillia
    18:36 Beowulf
    20:38 Cerabella
    22:49 Ms Fortune
    24:43 Painwheel
    27:47 Peacock
    31:13 Black Dhallia
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  • @JustXillow
    @JustXillow 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    rutabaga
    2:10 Annie
    3:10 Big Band
    4:39 Squigly
    6:21 Eliza
    7:39 Double
    9:06 Umbrella
    10:42 Parasoul
    12:02 Fukua
    13:34 Robo Fortune
    15:44 Valentine
    16:42 Filia
    18:36 Beowulf
    20:35 Cerebella
    22:49 Ms. Fortune
    24:45 Painwheel
    27:48 Peacock
    31:17 Black Dahlia

    • @TheZiadGuides
      @TheZiadGuides  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      xillow ur my frikin giga goat ty

  • @Pope_Stormdrain
    @Pope_Stormdrain 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +165

    High execution, hard gameplan: my team
    Low execution, easy gameplan: every other team in the game (carried btw)

    • @TheZiadGuides
      @TheZiadGuides  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @fayestra2486
    @fayestra2486 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    I've always thought of Squigly as having a high skill ceiling, but pretty low skill floor and a really smooth difficulty curve. I feel like every time I practice something new with Squigly, it's just barely tougher than the last thing I learned and I get it down pretty quickly.

  • @sladevalen2120
    @sladevalen2120 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    B. Dahlia, Fukua, Umbrella is the team that got me to enjoy learning skullgirls. The combos in this game can be difficult if you want optimal stuff but i try to make combos for where im at execution wise in each game i play and build on them later. Making those beginner combos made the game infinitely more approachable than trying to learn the tutorial combos they give

    • @TheZiadGuides
      @TheZiadGuides  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      bro ur just like me frfr, when i started i broke annie's bnb in half and did that for like 2 weeks and it worked and made it so i could jump i and play. more people should do what u do

  • @evilded2
    @evilded2 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Stuff like Stance cancels, unfly, or just any character specific mechanics are just going to be harder execution. Like you can play any character without doing anything hard but, the point of a resource like this is to get to a basic level of learning.

    • @TheZiadGuides
      @TheZiadGuides  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      i would argue stancels are very straight forward in their usage where as fly unlfly is more a bit harder to utilized as a tool in pressure and neutral where squigly doenst need to worry as much, u just stancel when u see them push block

    • @TheZiadGuides
      @TheZiadGuides  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      but i am a squigly player so idk maybe im biased

  • @Indubitably_Pol
    @Indubitably_Pol 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    HONEY WAKE UP, THERES A NEW ZIAD UPLOAD

  • @hmad898
    @hmad898 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    yea beos execution was a big surprise when i learned him. he has super easy stuff like blitzer loops, but if you wanna do good damage you best have those 3 frame links and microwalks on standby in the 72 fps game.

  • @bowserjr476
    @bowserjr476 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    painwheel brothers still suffering but in style🗿

  • @vincentmaio4415
    @vincentmaio4415 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    From my experience, fukua doesn’t require a ton of really hard execution. If you don’t like negative edge it could be hard, but it’s not bad compared to other negative edge characters. The hard part about her is not having a great reversal while also having to 4 touch people, you just have to have really good fundamentals in order to play her effectively

  • @SvenS2
    @SvenS2 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Definitely agree on Dahlia. Newer players get intimidated by her ammo mechanic, but my recommended approach for learning her is just start off learning the combos for her basic bullet, and then gradually incorporating more and more bullet variants to your gameplay

  • @duckulon
    @duckulon 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Big Bands execution might be easy, but the hardest part of band is the mental struggle of 1 bad game with him so he should be in high execution

  • @SeaJay4444
    @SeaJay4444 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Outside of light specific optimals which you really don't need, I think Bella's execution is about in the middle rather than in the top.
    I think Band's execution should go up, most good Bands are doing pretty hard stuff these days. He gets a lot out of working hard in his combos, since his optimal stuff has really good corner carry.

    • @pkerkid999
      @pkerkid999 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Band could do hard stuff but I don't think you need it for making it to top 8 in Mixmasters

    • @TacobellChalupaLover-
      @TacobellChalupaLover- 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@pkerkid999 facts

  • @Person-wu1cy
    @Person-wu1cy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Rutabaga, just getting into this game with the help of some of my friends and this video is great for figuring out who I wanted to play. Thank you!

  • @user-lg9eq6mw6c
    @user-lg9eq6mw6c 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for this video. As a new player i didnt know who to play and this helped me understand the characters.

  • @TetraBui
    @TetraBui 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This actually gives a lot of extra insight on how characters play in the game and I actually learned a lot from it, thank you!

    • @TheZiadGuides
      @TheZiadGuides  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      np if u wanna learn more on how specific chars play dekillsage has a character guide for the whole cast

    • @TetraBui
      @TetraBui 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TheZiadGuides yup! Already watched it
      Tho you got any tips for peacock zoning?
      I’m kinda at the phase of just basic spam zoning pattern rn

    • @TheZiadGuides
      @TheZiadGuides  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TetraBui i would say learn the pattern of 5HP 236HK-MK 5HP 214HP (Repeat) and then from there, learn which spots u only wanna throw one bomb. if they get into the mid range i recommend calling item drop and using it to control the pace of neutral. those are good places to start but feel free to ask me anything else

    • @TetraBui
      @TetraBui 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheZiadGuides I’ve been doing 5HP 236 HK LK 5HP 214 HP 5HP 236 HK 5HP 214 HP repeat

    • @TheZiadGuides
      @TheZiadGuides  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TetraBui yep that basically works the same. Next u should try throwing single bombs as well so u aren’t getting caught by random strays. Also remember to use ur buttons to both move around a keep space with stuff like jMK, jHP and 2HK

  • @neplep2002
    @neplep2002 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    these vids are so so good, great stuff!
    rutabaga

  • @kichoamn
    @kichoamn 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    rutabaga!
    i feel like robo should be lower than val on execution (i would put her on the low execution side tbh). i do agree that the robo gameplan is kinda hard, because you do no damage and gotta know how to move and thats hard. Also it feels weird seeing umby lower than bella, i've tried both and umby def feels harder for me.
    Nice video tho, i was scared when i saw the tier list format (i HATE tier list) but the explanation made sense and was fun to listen to.

  • @pkerkid999
    @pkerkid999 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Nice Guide I mostly agree with it. Although I think Parasoul is hardish cuz its hard to learn the spacing to confirm off her 5LP and for tourney play you have to learn how to button dash. It's also not that easy to confirm of her tear shots. Umby and para do have special air options off tear toss jMK and umby bubble jump lol.

    • @TheZiadGuides
      @TheZiadGuides  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Maybe it’s cuz I play 3S chun and Jin kisaragi and testament and I’m also hit confirm legend but tear into confirm with light DP was p easy. Also yea I forgot honestly may make em a lil hardrr

  • @jeanegreene374
    @jeanegreene374 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    While I agree that Painwheel has very high execution requirements, I disagree on how complex her game plan is. Generally she’s just called in to Hatred Install and finish a DHC combo, then tag out. If she’s ever stuck in versus most characters, she just plays to get out rather than stay in.

    • @TheZiadGuides
      @TheZiadGuides  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I didn’t explicitly say it in the video but this list is made without teams in mind and as if the character is on point. The reason pw players play her like that is cuz neutral is too hard for her and her reward is really inconsistent compared to other characters

    • @noobtuber10
      @noobtuber10 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Play my point pw :)

  • @skylanderlab1857
    @skylanderlab1857 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you friend, you have re-invigorated my want to main Peacock.

  • @skylardickson5201
    @skylardickson5201 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've been waiting for this moment

  • @pootsiii8178
    @pootsiii8178 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As someone who's coming from Strive and has been trying to learn Peacock...Yeah

  • @ddreamlezz
    @ddreamlezz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    very happy to see this video come out, been learning skullgirls and following the Skuggs series for a bit and only played each characters combo trials but never really got a good idea on who to improve on with this video helped a lot thank you

  • @syrexio
    @syrexio 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As someone who started playing the game in July, I can confirm, Squigly isn't too hard once you get used to it, and the same goes for Eliza (Even though I was an Eliza who never used sekhmet until recently). Those two are my mains. I would still like to figure out peacock at some point because she was the first character I played. Put damn I'm bad at figuring out how to link her moves when I have to start with punch as opposed to Squigly and Eliza, who I can start with kicks.

    • @TheZiadGuides
      @TheZiadGuides  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      well u should try using squigly stand light pucnh more cuz its actually really good. and like i said i was there playing pea at the start and sucking with her. like a wise man once said, sucking at something is the first step to being sorta good at something! try to go to the Mizuumi peacock page to learn a decent starter combo and if u really ever want i can send u the peacock with squigly assist combo/mix up since i play both of them ( btw squig pea is broken and so is squig eliza so that team would b p awesome baring some neutral problems with pea in certain match ups)

  • @Blaze-ow8cc
    @Blaze-ow8cc 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Previously i though Robo is one of the easiest in the game.. until I picked her up

  • @dimex3362
    @dimex3362 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’m an og point/team painwheel.. never thought she was hard combo wise or gameplan wise.. she’s just not that good of a character tbh but she’s still my best character. But it comes down to what you find hard. Fly unfly is super easy for me but that’s probably because I do it about 300 times a match..

  • @donnelwaddledee965
    @donnelwaddledee965 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Honestly my choice of most characters was off of jokes that HAPPENED to click with me like Big Band, Umbrella and funni sexy chair wolf man.

    • @TheZiadGuides
      @TheZiadGuides  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      i was talkin to a beo bella band player and he thinks thats actually the best band team so u got some good taste. im the same actually i picked pea annie squig just cuz i thout they all looked/played cool and had really cool skins

  • @tdawsmp1325
    @tdawsmp1325 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome idea for a video, lots of good info for beginners!
    rutabaga

  • @trentawsome8118
    @trentawsome8118 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dahlia player here. Most bullets are not minus 4 but are actually minus 1. Shotgun and ice are both plus. Do not tell people to just challenge all the time after her strings like that is the answer cause most dahlia's, myself included, are more than happy to rps with you on minus 1 when we have a frame one counter and our fastest button is 6 frames meaning if you want your turn back you have to press something faster then 7 frames if we decide to mash. Push blocking a dahlia out returns you back to neutral which is still a good option instead of doing the rps with a sigle plus frame to work with. Yes technically it is the opponents turn but most dahlias are perfectly fine with that rps. The risk reward is mostly even like at best you wait out my counter and get a heavy counter hit and at worst you get hit by the counter and get medium counterhit. First glance you may think you are winning but just know if you try to bait out counter you are falling right into the dahlia's trap and that little bit of hesitation is all we need. At the end of the day we are just -1 and can just block if we wanted. Side not btw you may think your best option is to grab and yes thats a really good option. Just know assault beats out grab and gives a heavy counter hit with j.hp.

  • @tangerynetoons7564
    @tangerynetoons7564 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Solo Fukua player here. I wouldn't say that she's too hard in execution. Yeah you have the negative edge but that's about it. She can easily zone you out by holdng forever a clone L and using fireballs, get in easily with JHK or BFF if you want to spend some meter, and she can get SUPER easy resets by using forever a clone or inevitable snuggle (command grab) into BFF.

  • @SewrRat
    @SewrRat 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Praise the heavens and lord above that someone else feels the same way I feel about squigly

    • @TheZiadGuides
      @TheZiadGuides  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      toddler tier char we need more palyers

  • @blue-flare7060
    @blue-flare7060 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    And with Marie Korbel coming to the stage she feels easy to use honestly.

  • @gwitch
    @gwitch 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    enjoying your videos is easy execution

  • @MargarineKnife
    @MargarineKnife หลายเดือนก่อน

    I main Painwheel and don't think she's really difficult. The inputs aren't that fast, but they feel weird unless you're specifically dedicated to playing her, since no other character plays similar.
    The other thing that is nice about playing Painwheel is that if you miss a j.LK to c.LK in a combo, you can play it off like you meant to miss to get a tricky reset.

  • @171717yoshi
    @171717yoshi 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bella combos are pretty easy unless you're trying to do character specific optimals. You only need a second Big Band specific combo that's super easy to learn. I would lower her execution a bit

    • @TheZiadGuides
      @TheZiadGuides  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thats fair i mostly trusted the bella mains i talked to on this as i have like 0 exp with her

    • @171717yoshi
      @171717yoshi 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@TheZiadGuides if you're a lazy bella player just replace her j. Mk with j. Lk in her bnb and it works on everyone except big band

  • @tinkornhardfist7574
    @tinkornhardfist7574 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've been considering getting this game and I'm really liking Filia and Cerabella but after this video I'm not sure if it's a good idea to pick one of them up as a beginner.

    • @hmad898
      @hmad898 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      this list is more for higher levels of play i think, every character has easy stuff you can do at a beginner level

  • @pkerkid999
    @pkerkid999 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Val is to comital in the air which sucks against dp assist in tourney

  • @cloudninjamusic
    @cloudninjamusic หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Valentine is truly inconsistent"
    April 2024 Balance Patch:

  • @archerqm3061
    @archerqm3061 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is this more of a general difficulty rating or more based on character skill floors?

    • @TheZiadGuides
      @TheZiadGuides  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i would say this is general, think of it as the skill floor for tournament play

  • @karibu9933
    @karibu9933 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm having a hard time understanding what skill level this is supposed to be for, some placements seems to make a lot of sense for beginner/intermediate(Big Band, Eliza), while others seems specifically for high lvl (Bella, Peacock).
    Overall I can agree with most of the singular placements but as a whole is a bit confusing.
    A few examples:
    -Bella: if we are talking intermediate lvl she's really simple, her gameplan is to just go in and she has strong offensive tools to open the opponent, but as you play better players her neutral becomes harder and hard, you need to have a strong gamplan vs pushblock and there is basically no limit to how hard her execution if you are willing to go for the difficult stuff.
    -Peacock: Optimal peacock is hard, like really hard, no matter how strong she is, she requires a lot of knowledge and to be fast at assessing the situation and use her tools. But at the intermediate lvl you can learn two zoning patters and have a strong neutral assist and do well with her, even if you don't do optimal combos Argus pushes full screen and sets up your win condition.

    • @TheZiadGuides
      @TheZiadGuides  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i actually recorded this twice and forgot to mention the "who this is for" in the 2nd recording, but i made this list for people who would be beginners of SG looking to master their respective char. i was also looking at characters as individuals instead of on a team. while it is p simple and easy to zone with pea while calling brass to cover the gaps, learning her starting out is hard adn the more u delve into her mastery the harder it gets. i admit some char might b off but i took a lot what other high level players said into consideration since i dont play a lot of the cast at a high level, just pea annie and squig. i hope that cleared things up and ty for asking!

  • @Roboardo
    @Roboardo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Rutabaga
    Also thanks for this list, do you know where I can find good Umbrella resources?

    • @TheZiadGuides
      @TheZiadGuides  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      oddberry is the umby aficionado in the SG scene i would hit her up, i think she also has an umby main discord. also Mizuumi has a ton of stuff

  • @stevenbrun4815
    @stevenbrun4815 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    is there a good way to approach learning this game, i played a lot of johnny in rev2 and want to pick up squigly but this whole game goes so fast

    • @TheZiadGuides
      @TheZiadGuides  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I would say picking up 2 characters is a great place to start since u will get team mechanics like DHC’s and Assists without having to learn 3 whole characters. If u want squigs best partner people usually say band since that duo is really broken and tournament viable. Plus band has really strong assists which will hopefully get u in the habit of calling assists. I do know people who learned characters 1 at a time so that’s also one way to do it. But if u played Xrd Johnny don’t worry too much, this game is actually slower then that game it’s just a lot happening with assists and all that jazz. Also Ik it may sound dumb but make sure to actually get some matches in (quick match is actually pretty good it’s just sometimes ur fight GODS) don’t just lab the entire time

  • @A.U526
    @A.U526 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I am tekken player
    And I like this game
    I main big band

    • @TheZiadGuides
      @TheZiadGuides  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      must be a paul or jack player

    • @A.U526
      @A.U526 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheZiadGuides jack and gigas
      Haha how you know

  • @freshbroceries4601
    @freshbroceries4601 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My experience learning robo after pea probably skews my opinion, but I seriously think shes in contention for one of the easier gameplans and executions, shes potentially the most middle of the road in the game. Im not saying youll be making robbery esq comebacks like band but the simplicity of her neutral keepaway game and on block pressure as well as the incredible rurn stealing ability of 5hp + assist and ankle shattering potency of 2mk seriously makes up for her lack luster ground buttons.
    Tldr robo is the easiest zoner in the game IMO.

  • @marcelinebeckerrosas9023
    @marcelinebeckerrosas9023 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Since i only play painwheel for me, the only challenge with her is to dominate the fly, since without it, you can´t do almost any combo Tw T and even i got better, still happens i drop a combo bc i didnt execute well the fly Tw T

  • @KT_FGC
    @KT_FGC 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Just out of curiosity where do you put marie?

  • @LunaMinuna
    @LunaMinuna หลายเดือนก่อน

    My team consists of Umby, Val, and Squigly I love those characters to death and I genuinely curious where they go(Squigly and Val is defo hard to play)

    • @TheZiadGuides
      @TheZiadGuides  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I would do Val first and squig/umby can go where ever. If you use salt grinder I would put umby second but if you use Cliffhanger Umby assist I would put her anchor

  • @bernhartschmieder9401
    @bernhartschmieder9401 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Update for Marie coming someday?

  • @bruhman9018
    @bruhman9018 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Idk what any of this means I just bought the game because I think that guy with the trumpet is funny and I wanna play him

    • @TheZiadGuides
      @TheZiadGuides  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ye that’s the energy I LOVE to see u r such a pure soul

  • @Kelpie9423
    @Kelpie9423 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    #1 Ziad fan

  • @manuelpino6992
    @manuelpino6992 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What's an install?
    Please make a Squiggly guide in the future. I had it hard to learn to play here and how to build a team around her.

    • @TheZiadGuides
      @TheZiadGuides  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      an install is like a mode a character can go in that temporarily powers them up, annie and robo both have installs

    • @TheZiadGuides
      @TheZiadGuides  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also for u I might make a quick lil squig guide

  • @jackythewannabe4530
    @jackythewannabe4530 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Unfortunate that some of the characters I’m most interested in as a new person (Peacock, Fukua, PW) are some of the hardest and not super worth it

    • @TheZiadGuides
      @TheZiadGuides  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Its ok, patch is coming and they are buffing both Fukua and PW so they are about to be BROKEN

  • @sebastianlovenhjelm3100
    @sebastianlovenhjelm3100 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ziad just outed himself ass a jam player and instantly discredited all he's ever said about fighting games!
    It's a sad day😭😭😭

    • @TheZiadGuides
      @TheZiadGuides  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m a pea player too I was never gonna win 😔

  • @koalabare6969
    @koalabare6969 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Rutabaga but i cant read

  • @JoelBadguy
    @JoelBadguy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    epic

  • @evilded2
    @evilded2 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    How is filla hard game plan? As much as val and painwheel? I get the hard execution but, come on you just shoomve around and punish. You convert into blender. That's very simple neutral.

    • @TheZiadGuides
      @TheZiadGuides  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      once u get the hit its easy but u can say the same thing about all the other char's in this game, they all have god blenders. but before she gets that hit it can be a really strugle and she has basically no way to force her opponent to approach her unlike val who can sit back and play lame and bait there opponent to wiff. fillia only has movemtn to force their opponent to wiff which isnt as strong imo

    • @evilded2
      @evilded2 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@TheZiadGuides I guess I see difficulty in gameplan being more a result of complexity in how you approach reaching the win condition. I would consider movement and patience in neutral to be a part of execution. (The gameplan is simple but, hard to accomplish.)

  • @VialofNMTears
    @VialofNMTears 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Idk about using peacock as a reference for why umbrella shouldn’t be nerfed let alone any character

    • @VialofNMTears
      @VialofNMTears 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Besides that this was really well made and I agree with most if not all placements

  • @billyboleson2830
    @billyboleson2830 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    All the fun characters have glaring issues lol

  • @asphyxia-end
    @asphyxia-end 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    nothing can dissuade me from the painwheel struggle bus

  • @OctovenderReal
    @OctovenderReal 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "Pea is harder than val" "zoning harder than rushing down" hahahahahaha rutabaga

    • @notimeforcreativenamesjust3034
      @notimeforcreativenamesjust3034 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Peacock is *really* fucking weird to control, she's very awkward to play with.

    • @ironman1458
      @ironman1458 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034 Kinda but also its not that hard lol

  • @evilded2
    @evilded2 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I think you're conflating the two axis a bit. The fact that there is a linear relationship is probably not what you want to see.

    • @TheZiadGuides
      @TheZiadGuides  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      maybe but i also think that there are basically no chars in this game with hard gameplan and low exectution. the devs do a good job of making chars hard organically rather than making a simple kit with no real avanue to victor, which is what that bottom quadrant would be. i said in the vid that if pw had easier execution she would be down there but all the other char with easier exectuion would make their gameplan a lot easier if that makes sense

    • @evilded2
      @evilded2 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TheZiadGuides I already kinda said this in a different reply but, I think it's more useful as a resource to detach the difficulty of a game plan from how easy it is to execute. So like you've played strive? It's easier with non team games.
      So pre patch Happy Chaos would be Easy Gameplay, hard Execution. You shoot gun and build meter. The Execution is difficult because of doing steady aim shot, managing resources, and being unique w/o HS.
      Someone like Asuka, Venom or Testament(GGST) has a more difficult gameplan because the process of reaching their wincon has multiple steps.
      How difficult they are to execute would be based on how consistent it is to execute the steps (so things like character specific adjustments, requiring high mechanical effort, or unpredictable variables)
      Both Auska and Faust rely on dynamic reactions to RNG making their game plan more difficult to execute but, Faust's gameplan is much less difficult even if he is a weaker character.
      Inversely, Milla and Chip have pretty easy gameplans but are difficult execution wise due to having more situations that require specific knowledge and mechanical skills than the average character to take advantage of. Not to mention having less life.
      That's just my thoughts on the matter though. Meaningful discourse on the ways to conceptualize abstract and often subjective matters in fighting games is important for the community.
      (Sorry if there are grammatical mistakes I don't have access to a computer at the moment.)

    • @TheZiadGuides
      @TheZiadGuides  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      no this was a very eloquently said reply, i definitly think there is nuance to this topic and im def not the end all b all so i appreciate ur pov on this but i think that u also have to look at how most people use the tools. like i think test is easyish gameplan even tho it is 2 steps cuz once u get it down its p simple since u just zone with fireball and lauch crow. it gets a little harder when going over match up specific stuff and when we talk about tourney play and how effective they are there but as baseline for newcommers i think the gameplan is p easy to get. ty again i think its a really interesting topic to discuss@@evilded2​

    • @evilded2
      @evilded2 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheZiadGuides Yes, I would agree about Testament. I was going bring them up as an example of a character who has a slightly more complicated gameplan that is still easier to execute. I didn't because I realized I probably wouldn't be able to judge fairly since they're one of the characters I've played a lot of.

  • @hugocastellon4693
    @hugocastellon4693 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hello, somebody can say me whats mean gameplan n execution? Plis

    • @TheZiadGuides
      @TheZiadGuides  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Gameplan is the plan a character will generally use to win games. So peacock primarily wins games by zoning and mixing people up when she gets a hit, that’s her “gameplan”. Execution is just how you execute the character mechanically. So high execution characters generally demand learning difficulty inputs and or pressing buttons in quick succession

    • @hugocastellon4693
      @hugocastellon4693 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@TheZiadGuides thx!!!

  • @bowserjr476
    @bowserjr476 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    now hold on since when was zoning hard🗿

  • @CursedShinobiClown
    @CursedShinobiClown 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is it true that the game is gonna get assist only characters?

    • @TheZiadGuides
      @TheZiadGuides  6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That’s only for the mobile version

  • @greghuffman3061
    @greghuffman3061 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    ahh

  • @Afince
    @Afince 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    rutabaga
    Also character timestamps?

    • @TheZiadGuides
      @TheZiadGuides  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      u were spitting so hard so i did it ty king

  • @toffelstechbasement8129
    @toffelstechbasement8129 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    squigly=easy, what a based take. it's true!

  • @hamie96
    @hamie96 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I liked the concept of the video, but I will say I very much disagree with your placements and reasoning.
    I'm going to preface this by saying I'm approaching the Ease of Execution at both how easy a new player can learn combos and the general gameplan and how high the skill ceiling is for the specific character:
    Big Band - I very much disagree with your placement solely because his damage and defensive options do not make his execution (combos) nor his gameplan any easier. He can absolutely struggle to get in against most of the cast with some of the worst matchups in the game, his combos are all screen specific and require very tight timings that are variable and weight-dependent, his reset games isn't the best, and he gets IOH by almost everyone. Being a wifi band is to mash on every reset and die trying, being a good band means having the patience to e brake for distance and wait for the opponent to mess up their approaches or zoning. He fits more in the mid execution / mid game plan scenario.
    Fukua - Legitimately one of the easiest characters to play both as a beginner and at an expert level. Her combos are actually really consistent and extremely beginner friendly (more so than other characters on the tier list like Double or Parasoul), her resets with and without shadow holds are easy to perform, and her gameplan is pretty simple and flexible. Take note at how KJ plays Fukua vs JP and you can drastically see how flexible Fukua is as a character, from being both aggro to straight zoner. Would highly recommend trying her for a week to see for yourself. Definitely low execution / low game plan.
    Beowulf - You're right in that for Beowulf you have to learn multiple type of combos, however his beginner friendly combos are essentially 2 combos total. I know people talk about the "3frame stagger" (its 5 if you're doing dash hop MP) but they also fail to mention the game's buffer system makes it drastically easier to pull ogg than any combo in BlazBlue or other anime fighters. His gameplan is pretty difficult for beginners but his execution, except at the utmost highest level, execution difficulty isn't higher than characters like Robo/Fortune/Painwheel. Also fuck the Peacock vs Beo matchup. More of a mid execution / hard gameplan.
    Black Dahlia - Dahlia's execution is easy but her gameplan is pretty similar to Peacock, but much harder to execute. She doesn't have a true DP and her teleport is awful compared to the Peacock TP. Bullets dont matter too much since there's really only 2 that are used in most games. Low Execution / Hard Gameplan.

    • @hmad898
      @hmad898 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the hardest part about big bands combos are that you have to pay attention to screen space. unless you're trying to do midscreen clarinet loops (which dont offer that much more damage), theyre pretty easy.
      beowulfs stagger has no buffer. blitzer loops are easy, but compared to his actual routes they do like half the damage and still have a lot of character specific timings and directions, so you still arent escaping that.
      His normal routes to play him at a standard level have microwalks and tight character/weight specific timings in almost every part of his combos.

  • @thepear6684
    @thepear6684 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hope they release a new Game🔥

    • @TheZiadGuides
      @TheZiadGuides  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yea but I like this game a lot so personally, I hope they keep updating it til the end of time

    • @thepear6684
      @thepear6684 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TheZiadGuides would bring in new life👍

  • @bobbybolton6655
    @bobbybolton6655 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about black Dahlia?

    • @TheZiadGuides
      @TheZiadGuides  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      she is there but i had to photoshop in an image, shes the last one

  • @user-yz1vp4jh1d
    @user-yz1vp4jh1d 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Many characters need nerf....

    • @mongodroid4842
      @mongodroid4842 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      or you could just buff a few characters
      mostly painwheel lol

    • @user-yz1vp4jh1d
      @user-yz1vp4jh1d 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mongodroid4842 Ambrella, and cat is extra strong. That destroy balance

    • @mongodroid4842
      @mongodroid4842 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@user-yz1vp4jh1d I agree that the cat girls are a problem, but if you're having trouble with umbrella that sounds like a skill issue

    • @user-yz1vp4jh1d
      @user-yz1vp4jh1d 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mongodroid4842 Anne, Mary, Dahlia also need nerf

    • @mongodroid4842
      @mongodroid4842 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@user-yz1vp4jh1d ok now you're just being ridiculous
      Annie is a bit overturned, but Marie isn't even out yet, and Dahlia is a pretty mediocre character with one super busted move. a move that requires either RNG or Meter to use
      it sounds like you're just complaining about stuff you can't beat

  • @the.new.Yharim
    @the.new.Yharim 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    *bro just thought that band is easy to play?..he got the biggest hitbox in game , they gave him that parry for some reason, his combos are kinda like.. complicated to learn if you don't get natural with his movements in game and parry at the same time since his hitbox can be tricky , but some of his movements can help you IF YOU KNOW HOW TO USE THEM . and he put squiggly, double and Eliza in easy?....this reminds me to notmayo's ULTRAKILL review, and also umbrella can do infinite loop combos , also peacock is if you're lucky enough if umbrella let you breathe by a second.*

    • @hmad898
      @hmad898 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      sure band is big, but also you have parry and some of the best reversals in the game, and can do a ton of damage with little effort. band, squiggly, double, and eliza are pretty universally agreed to be easy in terms of execution. And what do you mean by movements? Do you mean the way he moves or his special moves?
      No character can do infinites in this game except on assists.

    • @the.new.Yharim
      @the.new.Yharim 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@hmad898 *I mean that band attack movements are one of the most trickiest to learn , you see, there's people that learns to attack with the trumpet, I'm still trying to learn how to do that, you yes. Band isn't the only character, is just that it's kinda funny how he says is one of the most easiest*

    • @hmad898
      @hmad898 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@the.new.Yharim not really. hes got some basic charge motions, a dp, and some quarter circles. nothing more difficult than any other character. his level 5 super is a weird input, but the trumpets not needed for anything. its just funny.
      i think you might just need to spend more time with the game

    • @the.new.Yharim
      @the.new.Yharim 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@hmad898 *facts*

  • @qwertykibored
    @qwertykibored 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    so cap

  • @kirbyfan4
    @kirbyfan4 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I dropped Skullgirls because of their censorship

    • @TheZiadGuides
      @TheZiadGuides  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      oh yea i totally remmber kirbyfan 4 in a ton of tournaments and online games and all the discords, a pillar of the community really... o wait i have literally never seen u play the game in my life so cool, ty for giving lab zero ur money come back when u actually play and then we can talk censorship

    • @mrstealcar4702
      @mrstealcar4702 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TheZiadGuides Bruh...Just bc he doesn't play tournament skull girls doesn't mean that he didn't support the game. He still bought the game and played it. Which means as a consumer he has the right to complain.
      Why are you so pressed up about a valid complaint? Its just an opinion man. Not cool.

    • @kirbyfan4
      @kirbyfan4 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheZiadGuides saying my opinion only matters if I have weight to my name is stupid. That's like saying you only care about the news if some celebrities tweet about it.

    • @TheZiadGuides
      @TheZiadGuides  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@mrstealcar4702 no ur right i def cam off a bit strong with that, but i also think its pretty reductive of people to boil down the discussion to "censorship bad" and nothing else. there really is a nuanced discussion to have on the topic of buying something years ago and it not being the same. but insinuating you actually play the game and saying "the reason i dropped it is censorship" is crazy to me. ik the people that play this game and they are willing to talk about this in an open and meaningful way, and the people who dont play it act like they been here the whole time. this is like the 5th time theyve removed/changed content and no one said ANYTHING b4. thats why it makes me mad when people come out of the wood work claiming this is what made them "drop it" when in reality they played the games story mode once 8 years ago and saw the game "removing content" and got all up in arms without seeing what was removed and why. again maybe that was a bit mean but im just tired of all this. imma respond to him to the original poster politely and try my best to have civil discussion

    • @TheZiadGuides
      @TheZiadGuides  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@kirbyfan4 its not about having weight its about what u said. dropped the game insinuates u played the game for a meaningful amount of time, which is neither here nor there idc what ur steam hours are. my point is that u coming from out of the community and complaining about the censorship feels like our community is being used to fight a battle that has nothing to do with us. i talk to SG players everyday (including mobile player) and while we all have complaints, i cant think of one person who cared enough about the content removal to quit. some people were upset about some things that are gone but everyone understands this game was made during a different time. decrying "censorship" is a slap in the face to all the artist who have worked on the game for a DECADE and want their art to more closely reflect how they feel today. and i just think, why is it such a big deal to you when you arent the ones playing this game on a daily basis? and why come to my channel, a Skullgirls channel aimed at beginners that has NOTHING to do with all that drama, just to type some inane drivel that has nothing to do with the video topic? it just makes you come off as an insincere bad actor who goes to any random SG channel to tell me "censhorship bad shame on u for playing this game"

  • @awesomesauce7264
    @awesomesauce7264 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Why did the two characters a beginner shouldn't pick up have to be the ones I like the most 🫠