A great review, I may have to try an sneak one of those AB into my hobby room one day soon, have a Happy New Year, very best regards to you and your family from a Kiwi living in Australia.
Great review, and have been thinking about getting myself the mobius 2mm. You literally answered my questions on how it handles paint and tweaking the brush for good application.
I got the GHAD-39 a few months back for like $28 USD. And it’s the best airbrush for its money I’ve used. I literally just bought the Morbius 2mm & 3mm yesterday and can’t wait to use them both.
Looks like an interesting AB, lots of features, looks to be inspired by H&S and, to an extent, Paasche too🤔🤔 The new H&S Ultra comes in at about £95 iirc. It would be interesting to compare the two🤔🤔 The "Beemer" is coming on well👍👍 The season's greetings to you and yours🎉👍✌️💜😊
Great video, thanks. May I suggest trying Tamiya LP range paint, this dosent require as much thinning to get a super smooth splatter free finish. Regards Dave Porter London.
I have worked with both the Gaahleri Mobius .2 and .3 as well as with the Harder & Steenbeck Evolution .4 and Infinity .2 airbrushes (not the 2024 models) and the Badger Omni 4000 and 150. First the Mobius, I was able to work with them without issue, the .2 needs very thinned down paint indeed. Personally I prefer the .3 as it is much easier to work with and the MAC valve is not something I ever use so I prefer to not have it in my way. The .2 sprays finer but not even that much. Cleaning is them is OK, my biggest problem with them is the tolerance around the seals. This is not as good as with H&S and Badger. You can easily get paint into the whole brush if your not careful. I have them just a few months so I cant say anything about life expectancy but I think the H&S will outlive them for sure and the Badgers probably too. Second the H&S, both brushes are great, the quality of both is a step above the Gaahleri and the Badgers. The .4 nozzle is great and can spray about as fine as the Mobius .3. The .2 is just as with the Mobius only suitable for very thin paints. The Infinity .2 can spray a little finer than the Mobius .2. The evolution .4 is able to do almost all, from base coating to fine details to Varnish. Third Badger, I like the Omni 4000 much better then the 150. Again its very all round. My biggest problem with both badgers is cleaning them, I don't like it. The Omni 4000 is doable but needs a tool, the 150 is just so bad, I don't use it just so i don't need to clean it. Cleaning is why I got a H&S instead of the Iwata High End line, I don't want to fiddle with a micro nozzle and special tool. (The Eclipse is better it seems but its nozzle looks so much like the Omni I went with H&S) What would I recommend? Get the H&S Evo .4 for almost all your airbrush work. The quality of the brush is insane, cleaning it is so much better then the Omni 4000 the .4 can do almost everything well. Some people don't like the trigger though but that seems to be fixed with the Evo 2024. Yes its more expensive then the Gaahleri offering but as you can use it for 90% of the jobs its gonna be used a lot, and its money well spend. Now for extreme fine details when you have enough airbrush experience you can get the Mobius as a second brush. Its cheap and as you'll need it much less often paying a little less seems fine. If you don't care and want the finest sprays patterns and the best quality, and money is less important get the H&S Infinity .2 or .15 Another great option with great price/performance is GSI Creos / Mr Hobby PS-267/270/274/289. I have never used them so I cannot compare them to the above models but many people who have used them love them.
It’s a 20+ year old Hansa brand HTC15 Junior (made by Werther), still available from within the Sil-Air range in more or less the same form. Great silent compressor.
Yes there's a quick start guide in the box, whether that is enough to fine tune it is another question, this is not really a plug and play airbrush, you will need to be a bit more experience than a beginner, for example, as it is a bit fiddly to get set-up. As you can see though, once that is done, it sprays fine.
Depends on budget really and what you are looking for. You need to decide if you want a quiet one and/or a tank or not, those are the two major decisions. A tank and quietness are useful, I recommend looking on Facebook Marketplace or Ebay for some reputable brand compressors second hand and try your luck. I've covered a bunch of compressors on the channel, all are viable options. Harder and Steenbeck now make the Hansa brand, like I bought, they are solid units and made by Werther in Italy who make many compressors for different brands anyway. Pricey but long life, as stated, mine was bought over 23 years ago and spare parts are abundant.
I might have missed it, so what is your verdict when compared to the Sotar 20/20? Ive been using the Sotar & Iwata hP-C for years now and this brush seems interesting. Thanks for the review!
Pretty similar in terms of actual performance, Mobius is better in terms of finish and price point, but I do like both and have a fondness for the Sotar as it feels so good in the hand for intricate detail work. The Mobius is a fine brush though, can't really go wrong at that price point and both brands have the necessary back-up for parts and longevity - looks like Gaahleri intends to stay the course and shake up the market a bit.
I think premium trumps ace? Maybe? Either way, this is a much higher end offering. The 98D is like an Iwata Eclipse or maybe an HP, the Mobius more like a HiLine or HP-CH, in terms of features at any rate.
@@scalewarmachines according to Gaahleri, Classic < Advanced < Premium < Ace < Supreme, the premium line is in between Ace & Advanced line, but since this airbrush is newer design, there's no surprise it's better than the old ones, just like the new H&S evolution 2024 is better than the old infinity CRplus. I have 98D, I wonder if I should get this mobius or just wait for the supreme line.
I for the life of me cannot fathom how the new Supreme model is going to better than the Mobius. If the quality control of the Mobius was up to snuff, it would easily be the best airbrush ever made. But in its present state of "hit and miss" quality control and shocking amounts of damaged units being received, It's just merely the prettiest airbrush ever made. . . The big name makers got lucky that the Mobius doesn't perform near as well as it looks. If it did, it would be game over for everyone but Gaahleri 😮. . .
Do you mean paint in the rear section of the airbrush? That’s because I retracted then removed the needle when I was trouble shooting the paint splatter initially. There was still paint in the cup when I did so, so paint entered the rear section but the packing seal on this brush is fine. The film is edited with video editing software, so you won’t have seen that happen but it doesn’t leak.
Oh would you look at that, another positive review. Who would have thought. Guess this guy will lose some cred too? 😏Seriosuly man, if a product is good and works well for them then people will say so. Nothing wrong with that. 👍
Both have their strengths but I have a special affection for the Sotar 2020 due to its ergonomics and love the Patriot Xtreme for its rugged reliability and coverage. Video on various Badger products coming soonish. Basically, all guns these days are nice, but this range is impressive in terms of price point.
The new Badgers are not what they once were. I have had several in the past and they were good. I recently purchased another one and was not impressed. The plating was horrible as was the machining. It looked like it was done in someone's garage. I am all for buying American, but I want the best value for my money. Badger is going to have to pick up their game. There is absolutely no way they can compete with the Gaahleri or Pro Con Boy series of airbrushes. I also have H & S and Iwata's and the same holds true for them too.
Design over function. How much cheaper would that be without the useless skeletal body, which is useless, why gold colour unless it's real gold? Don't think so. All show with some go
The design and functionality of the “mobius” cut-out handle are discussed in detail. Like you, I initially thought it was a gimmick but it works ergonomically to reach both the trigger tensioner and the needle chuck. The gold is just “bling”, it’s less blingy than some I’ve seen though, without naming names…
A great review, I may have to try an sneak one of those AB into my hobby room one day soon, have a Happy New Year, very best regards to you and your family from a Kiwi living in Australia.
Great review, and have been thinking about getting myself the mobius 2mm. You literally answered my questions on how it handles paint and tweaking the brush for good application.
I got the GHAD-39 a few months back for like $28 USD. And it’s the best airbrush for its money I’ve used. I literally just bought the Morbius 2mm & 3mm yesterday and can’t wait to use them both.
Inspect carefully specially needle tip. My Mobius 0.2 came with a bent needle which they promptly replaced.
Thanks for the review 😉
I'll have a look at this
Looks like an interesting AB, lots of features, looks to be inspired by H&S and, to an extent, Paasche too🤔🤔 The new H&S Ultra comes in at about £95 iirc. It would be interesting to compare the two🤔🤔
The "Beemer" is coming on well👍👍
The season's greetings to you and yours🎉👍✌️💜😊
Great video, thanks. May I suggest trying Tamiya LP range paint, this dosent require as much thinning to get a super smooth splatter free finish. Regards Dave Porter London.
Thanks for the tip!
I have worked with both the Gaahleri Mobius .2 and .3 as well as with the Harder & Steenbeck Evolution .4 and Infinity .2 airbrushes (not the 2024 models) and the Badger Omni 4000 and 150.
First the Mobius, I was able to work with them without issue, the .2 needs very thinned down paint indeed. Personally I prefer the .3 as it is much easier to work with and the MAC valve is not something I ever use so I prefer to not have it in my way. The .2 sprays finer but not even that much. Cleaning is them is OK, my biggest problem with them is the tolerance around the seals. This is not as good as with H&S and Badger. You can easily get paint into the whole brush if your not careful. I have them just a few months so I cant say anything about life expectancy but I think the H&S will outlive them for sure and the Badgers probably too.
Second the H&S, both brushes are great, the quality of both is a step above the Gaahleri and the Badgers. The .4 nozzle is great and can spray about as fine as the Mobius .3. The .2 is just as with the Mobius only suitable for very thin paints. The Infinity .2 can spray a little finer than the Mobius .2. The evolution .4 is able to do almost all, from base coating to fine details to Varnish.
Third Badger, I like the Omni 4000 much better then the 150. Again its very all round. My biggest problem with both badgers is cleaning them, I don't like it. The Omni 4000 is doable but needs a tool, the 150 is just so bad, I don't use it just so i don't need to clean it. Cleaning is why I got a H&S instead of the Iwata High End line, I don't want to fiddle with a micro nozzle and special tool. (The Eclipse is better it seems but its nozzle looks so much like the Omni I went with H&S)
What would I recommend? Get the H&S Evo .4 for almost all your airbrush work. The quality of the brush is insane, cleaning it is so much better then the Omni 4000 the .4 can do almost everything well. Some people don't like the trigger though but that seems to be fixed with the Evo 2024. Yes its more expensive then the Gaahleri offering but as you can use it for 90% of the jobs its gonna be used a lot, and its money well spend.
Now for extreme fine details when you have enough airbrush experience you can get the Mobius as a second brush. Its cheap and as you'll need it much less often paying a little less seems fine. If you don't care and want the finest sprays patterns and the best quality, and money is less important get the H&S Infinity .2 or .15
Another great option with great price/performance is GSI Creos / Mr Hobby PS-267/270/274/289. I have never used them so I cannot compare them to the above models but many people who have used them love them.
Thanks very much for the useful reply and detailed comments.
Cool as always 👍
What compressor are you using? It is clearly very quiet.
It’s a 20+ year old Hansa brand HTC15 Junior (made by Werther), still available from within the Sil-Air range in more or less the same form. Great silent compressor.
Did it come with instructions to help ypu fine tune it?
Yes there's a quick start guide in the box, whether that is enough to fine tune it is another question, this is not really a plug and play airbrush, you will need to be a bit more experience than a beginner, for example, as it is a bit fiddly to get set-up. As you can see though, once that is done, it sprays fine.
Hi. Great review. May I ask what compressor you are currently using? Thanks
Thanks, it’s a Hansa HTC15 (made by Werther) which I bought in 1998 and it’s still going strong. Very quiet, so useful for videos.
@@scalewarmachines thanks for the response. Do you have one more recent you could recommend? I am just starting out painting models.
Depends on budget really and what you are looking for. You need to decide if you want a quiet one and/or a tank or not, those are the two major decisions. A tank and quietness are useful, I recommend looking on Facebook Marketplace or Ebay for some reputable brand compressors second hand and try your luck. I've covered a bunch of compressors on the channel, all are viable options. Harder and Steenbeck now make the Hansa brand, like I bought, they are solid units and made by Werther in Italy who make many compressors for different brands anyway. Pricey but long life, as stated, mine was bought over 23 years ago and spare parts are abundant.
I might have missed it, so what is your verdict when compared to the Sotar 20/20? Ive been using the Sotar & Iwata hP-C for years now and this brush seems interesting. Thanks for the review!
Pretty similar in terms of actual performance, Mobius is better in terms of finish and price point, but I do like both and have a fondness for the Sotar as it feels so good in the hand for intricate detail work. The Mobius is a fine brush though, can't really go wrong at that price point and both brands have the necessary back-up for parts and longevity - looks like Gaahleri intends to stay the course and shake up the market a bit.
It seems like the Mobius is even better than the 98D, although the 98D's Ace line should theoretically better than Mobius's premium line?
I think premium trumps ace? Maybe? Either way, this is a much higher end offering. The 98D is like an Iwata Eclipse or maybe an HP, the Mobius more like a HiLine or HP-CH, in terms of features at any rate.
@@scalewarmachines according to Gaahleri, Classic < Advanced < Premium < Ace < Supreme, the premium line is in between Ace & Advanced line, but since this airbrush is newer design, there's no surprise it's better than the old ones, just like the new H&S evolution 2024 is better than the old infinity CRplus.
I have 98D, I wonder if I should get this mobius or just wait for the supreme line.
I for the life of me cannot fathom how the new Supreme model is going to better than the Mobius. If the quality control of the Mobius was up to snuff, it would easily be the best airbrush ever made. But in its present state of "hit and miss" quality control and shocking amounts of damaged units being received, It's just merely the prettiest airbrush ever made. . . The big name makers got lucky that the Mobius doesn't perform near as well as it looks. If it did, it would be game over for everyone but Gaahleri 😮. . .
Do you realize your needle packing failed? That's why you have paint leaking backwards.
Do you mean paint in the rear section of the airbrush? That’s because I retracted then removed the needle when I was trouble shooting the paint splatter initially. There was still paint in the cup when I did so, so paint entered the rear section but the packing seal on this brush is fine. The film is edited with video editing software, so you won’t have seen that happen but it doesn’t leak.
Oh would you look at that, another positive review. Who would have thought. Guess this guy will lose some cred too? 😏Seriosuly man, if a product is good and works well for them then people will say so. Nothing wrong with that. 👍
@@TriLaserArt But it didn't work well for him. He had to adjust all this nonsense. He had paint leaking back and it sprayed and performed horribly.
Show me on the dolly where the Mobius touched you, to get you so upset about it all.
@@scalewarmachines That's the comeback I expect when youre too unintelligent to defend yourself.
Nah, Badger's better value...
Both have their strengths but I have a special affection for the Sotar 2020 due to its ergonomics and love the Patriot Xtreme for its rugged reliability and coverage. Video on various Badger products coming soonish. Basically, all guns these days are nice, but this range is impressive in terms of price point.
The new Badgers are not what they once were. I have had several in the past and they were good. I recently purchased another one and was not impressed. The plating was horrible as was the machining. It looked like it was done in someone's garage. I am all for buying American, but I want the best value for my money. Badger is going to have to pick up their game. There is absolutely no way they can compete with the Gaahleri or Pro Con Boy series of airbrushes. I also have H & S and Iwata's and the same holds true for them too.
Design over function. How much cheaper would that be without the useless skeletal body, which is useless, why gold colour unless it's real gold? Don't think so. All show with some go
The design and functionality of the “mobius” cut-out handle are discussed in detail. Like you, I initially thought it was a gimmick but it works ergonomically to reach both the trigger tensioner and the needle chuck. The gold is just “bling”, it’s less blingy than some I’ve seen though, without naming names…
Lol. You triggered by a cheap airbrush? Complaining just to complain. Aesthetics are important to the majority. Doesn't change how it works
Memememe You have a useless skeletal body too. . .