Fantastic job on both Grills. Seems that the only difference was the cooling down faster. Loved the way that both slabs of ribs looked and tasted the same and you were fair in all your comparasions. Thanks for sharing with us Neil and Amy. Merry Christmas to you and your families. Fred.
I've owned the 42" pellet smoker from LSG and owner Chris basically since they rolled out (also have a 36" model)....and I've used just about every brand pellet smoker that's common (aside from I believe Pitts and Spitts model) and I can tell you nothing so far has come close to the tank-like build quality and pure smoke (95% blue) generation as the LSG. This thing will constantly pump blue smoke during the cook. I've had ppl at comps walk up and THOUGHT it was a sticker burner and when I show them the 40 lb hopper they are mesmerized. I used to compete on it (and won quite a few) but I gave graduated to drums because of the cook time aspect and getting more sleep. The 42" is still my go-to smoker at the house for cooking due to the set and forget aspect while I tend to other things. Also, the Fireboard controller built in is amazing with the all the features it has built in...esp setting certain temp adjustments based on internal temps and the ability to log notes and pictures during specific cooks.
Agree with all that...100...I was surprised about how similar the taste were between the two....Im not sure if this is relevant...but to clarify...this was not a what smoker is better...hands down like you mentioned and for me many other reasons...but just a side by side comparison in taste...
totally agree with what you said. I think ppl need to realize at a certain level of experience we can all make food great on most all kinds of smokers. My view point is subjective but I view it for a purchase power dollar to dollar ....the LSG is truly hard to beat and growing in popularity rapidly. @@PelletsandPits
@@PelletsandPits thank you. Just trying to speak subjectively from experience but i have been very impressed with LSG and Chris and his staff has been some of the best Customer Service to deal with….even calling me on a Saturday night to fix an issue…
@@Ribpublicansbbqteam again… same here. I have no personal or business relationship with him. But several times we have went back and forth on ideas and a few concerns that turned out to be nothing. If asked by people I will give my personal opinion… I know the price is not for everyone. Thats the biggest drawback. But when it is in their price range it’s an absolute no brainer. Heat air flow. Space, extra features like a charcoal basket I love, the fire board, pull out and removable shelves, thick metal, lower noise, wood chips, big hopper, I mean it just keeps getting better 😂😂
Both racks looked nearly identical color wise other than the slight difference in browning you mentioned. As I watched you biting the meat off the bone, at least from my perspective, it looked as if the meat bit more cleanly off the bone on the Lone Star ribs than the Traeger. It seemed the Traeger ribs were not quite to the “bite cleanly off the bone” level of cooking. Perhaps that was due to what you noted in how quickly the Traeger cooled down vs the Lone Star. There was more carry over cooking in the heavier walled steel grill, thus the ribs cooked ever so slightly more during the resting phase. I wouldn’t be disappointed with either rack as a finished product.
Damn, sir! You made my mouth water when you guys tasted those ribs! I just pulled the trigger on buying an LSG 42" unit, I can't wait until it gets here!
Thanks man, great video. I have no doubt both grills can get same results. I don't have a Lonestar but the reason I want one is longevity. The Lonestar is very expensive but seems like an heirloom thing that will last your lifetime and probably your sons. The Traeger, Pitt Boss etc big box store pellet smokers seem to have a 2 to 3 year life span. I've been through 2 Pitt Bosses in 6 years. Both catastrophically failed in the middle of a cook and we had to finish in the oven. Both did great, as long as they did.... Well, thats my 2 cents....
Thats unfortunate...ive had my first Pit Boss Navigator for 3 years now...still puring..hope it doesn’t crap out to..hhaha Yeah the LSG is definitely a pass on item....holds excellent heat..thick and very very well designed
I’m gonna give those pellets a try. I’ve seen’em and never thought to much about’em. I’m a B&B man myself. I can’t find none better. Thanx for the comp vid. 👍
The biggest difference should be fuel efficiency and thermal loss. I just got the LSG 20X36 offset and can't believe how little wood it takes to complete a cook.
I found your video trying to decide equipment for my outdoor kitchen. I really like your videos. Very honest takes! I think you solidified my choice I’m going with the long star pellet and a long star smoker
Excellent comparison cook. I love pellet grills. There is a lot of technique and finesse in pellet grill cooking the js fun for experimentation. Looking forward to seeing more!
Several thoughts. First agree that not glopping it up with sauces and such gives the meat a chance to shine (if you get good pork). Second, I'm surprised at how little pull back on the bone you got, assuming they were pull off the bone tender. Third, I understand your wanting to "equalize" the comparison by cooking on the upper grate keeping roughly the same distance from the heat source, but given how differently they exhaust the heat/smoke I wonder if the LSG would have benefitted from cooking on the lower grate with the rib rack favoring the stack end. The idea being that it might induce a bit more smoke layering on the meat (although you didn't specifically mention smoke flavor profile).
Not the biggest fan of fall of bone tender...but completely agree...no clue about the on grate vs top grate..people swore to use the top grate for brisket...some say don’t matter...had to choose something...
On your lone Star pellet grill. Do you think the stainless steel shelves are better than the ones that come with it? Love y'all's channel. Keep up the good work!
MIne has a few scratches...but it does not bother me...I honestly liked the black over the stainless because of the glare...i have glasses and when that sun hits just right...just drives me nuts...to be honest...thats the only reason why I picked mine black
@@PelletsandPits The most convenient for you. We know that the Traeger or the LS are good pellet smokers, I'm just trying to verify if a pellet grill like the Weber Searwood can really smoke correctly the protein. If it's the case, it's insane because it's way more versatile (searing,rotisserie, griddle) with the accessories that the Ironwood for example and for "only" 900 dollars (1200 for the XL).
Great video. I know for me the LSG was my prime pick due to the construction quality, the features you mention, but honestly a lot of just really smart design elements that help avoid pellet cooker issues like the super easy to remove burn pot for insanely quick burn pot cleanouts, the super short open auger that drops to the chute to avoid jamming and burn back issues. Those are the things I spent so much time that felt like it was wasted on a more traditionally designed pellet smoker that now I don't have to waste my time on. Regarding taste, not super surprised you don't notice a difference. Maybe a longer smoke like a brisket or pulled pork might show? Also it might be the pellet. Don't take this the wrong way, use the pellets you like, not a pellet snob. Though I know videos where people side by sided them those pellets often didn't add as much smoke flavor as say something like the Knotty Wood ones. You might be hitting a smoke flavor cap on the pellets. I know others have reported the LSG kicking out more smoke than other pellet grills (mine seems to be the case, but I only have my previous GMG to compare to) but that could be limited by the amount of smoke a pellet can offer. Though I doubt the difference (even if that is the case) would be massive.
Excellent comparison. I own RecTek and Green Mountain. Both do the job. The computer temp settings are different but when you learn your grill you get the same results. Merry Christmas to you and your family.
10:inches….lol! Anyway…both ribs look juicy, great color and mighty tasty Neal! I do think the LSG ribs had a cleaner to the bone bite from what I could see. I’m just really digging that LSG. Dang now I’m wanting some ribs! Awesome content and results. Merry Christmas to you and your family my friend! God Bless!
@ Okay but you have reviewed the Searwood 600 and you feel it’s a good grill for smoking only? I have a Weber 26” that I do my actual grilling on. I can smoke on it but want a pellet grill for smoking only. I’m torn between the Recteq Deckboss 590 and the Weber Searwood 600.
Not the boning knife, the black one you use at the end of the video, and thank you for answering questions and interacting with us, not everyone does that.
Great video ! I’ve been a Traeger guy since 2005 but I’m really itching to get that LSG! They offered different types of cooking grates /LSG. Is there any reason to go with anything other than the standard ones that you’re using? I want to be smart with my add-ons.
Based on bite it looks like the Traeger had a little more chew as it didn't pull away from the bone like the rib on the Lone Star. My guess is that is due to the metal thickness on the Traeger causing temp swings in the cold. I used to have a Traeger but got tired of winter cooking requiring the use of a blanket. If this was only basedon smoke taste I'd say it doesn't matter much but I'm interested in meat tenderness, amount of pellets used by each pit, the cook process for cost and efficiency. I'd have also like to have seen a little more inspection all the way around of the ribs to see or determine if each pit had hotter, cooler, more or less smoke areas. Overall though those ribs did look good but I'd take the ones of the Lone Star just based on what I saw and heard on the bites. Great ribs!
Unfortunately I disagree...only for a few reasons...Absolutely 100 percent it sets it apart...but its not a fair comparison when the other unit cant do it...so when compared apples to apples thats the whole point...no doubt the LSG is a better unit even for the longevity...but I can see the future hahahaha
Honestly i dont think so...That doesn’t mean its not a fantastic unit...but you're asking about price...do I believe its worth 2,000...No open flame, no accessories like the Lone Star....I just dont think so...
In theory, both smokers should create very similar tasting ribs. What I want to know, is which grill will produce consistently high temperatures for years down the road? Neither my Traeger nor my Camp Chef will get above 400. My Traeger might hit 375 and the Camp Chef wheezes to get to 330. Yes both machines are clean.
I add them in just about every video...BUT in this case and trying to be fair...I did not because the Traeger can not....maybe wasnt the right decision but....thats what I had in my mind...cheers
@@PelletsandPits I think that’s the advantage worth a comparison. I know it’s not considered “fair”. But in the real world, why not take advantage of the feature? It’s there for a reason. Either way, I’d be curious to see if it makes a discernible difference. Knowing that pellets alone the two are very close, you could do some butts or ribs comparing the Treager on pellets to the LSG with chips. I’ve been looking at the LSG and Yoder YS640, the idea of wood chips in the LSG really has me leaning that way. But I know the Yoders’s pretty well since my dad has a YS640 and YS1500.
@@cpftank09 yes that could absolutely be a video. That way in the video I can’t explain the difference etc. I just want to make clear chips are not used in all smokers etc. many many people reach out asking if they can. Great video for sure. I wish I had two of the same smokers etc. that way the pellet flavor can change as well. Just to tell difference
I'm going to guess the ones on the left (your right) are from the LSG as they look like they have better bark. Yup. Also, remember that the LSG can take wood chips apparently, so that gives it another leg up. There are some pellet smokers that take wood chunks, but you can't just dump them in there like you could in a gravity fed smoker, you have to put a wood chunk on the fire every 40-45 minutes. If you're going to put wood on the fire every 40-45 minutes, just use an offset and get a better product for the same amount of work.
You should try the cold smoke feature on the Lsg. Lot my ribs and meats. i will cold smoke it about 1 hour before the regular cook. You will get a lot heavier smoke flavor. Plus, they just had an update for the fireboard, and i feel it works litte better than older firmware. I had to msg fireboard to get the update
You can also use the super smoke function on the traeger for the first hr or so. It helps add more smoke flavor as well. The downside is that it only works if you set the temp at 225 or less. I think the LSG is a better smoker, and I love it is made in the USA, but I can not afford it. I bought the Traeger Ironwood (non-XL) on sale, and it was above what I should have spent, but I have been very happy with the results so far. For us folks that can't swing top of the line, it is good to know it does a respectable job. Thank you for this comparison video.
I would think the bigger differences between the smokers would be in features, controls, etc rather than how it cooks unless the heat is horribly uneven or inaccurate in one of them.
no....this was based solely on taste...thats where they are the same....the lone star has better features, size and build quality...not anywhere near same...
I still can’t decide what I want to replace my Laredo with. However every time I watch your videos that Treager XL is just putting out more smoke than the others you have.
So no noticeable difference in the smoke taste? Other reviewers say the smoke in the Lonestar is phenomenal. On my Traeger, I usually can't tell what type of pellet I've used, so I've always been curious if that's just me, maybe my pellet grill, or other factor.
I cant tell different flavors as well....I can barely when compared side by side...but not day from day.....as per the test...if you take the emotion out of it...use the same pellet flavor....you cant tell...no way...
Although I 100 agree a difference would be there...not necessarily a fair comparison since the traeger does not have that option...that was my goal...head to head...BUT....definitely worth another video for sure
ive gotten ribs down to about 1 1/2hrs. In case time is a must. I do 18min in the instant pot and then take em out and put them on the smoker at 285 until done. it works so well its a trip 😂
After reviewing the video, the only other comparison would be how much pellet usage was done with each smoker. You put the exact same amount of pellets in each smoker. I would guess that the Traeger would use more pellets being that its heat retention is not nearly as good as the Lone Star!
Or sure which traeger but they do have a double walled unit there will retain heat well. I have one that I use all winter in Canada. Having said that, my LSG just arrived yesterday. It’s seasoned up now and ready for a test cook today before Christmas turkeys tomorrow.
@@PelletsandPits I’ve cooked some, boneless chicken breasts, smoked a salmon and a turkey. The difference in the grills is significant to me, but some reasons spin still trying to understand. The seasoning stands out more on the LSG significantly. On Sunday I did 8 boneless skinless chicken breasts, 4 on each grill. The LSG breasts were a bit more moist but the flavour on them was significantly stronger. I need to reduce the amount of rub I use with the LSG. Not sure why, but the turkey also reinforced that. For the turkey, being able to turn the turkey around to help it cook more evenly made a difference big difference. With the traeger, I never noticed turning it made much difference. The skin on the turkey was way better. I’d watched another video where the guy said he covered the skin in foil when it hit the colour he wanted. I ignored it because that’s never been an issue. My turkey was very dark and the skin split in a few places. The split may have been because I increased temp the last 20 minutes to speed up. The rub was stronger than I expected, like the chicken. Cleanup is was easier. I expected that though. I got the stainless grates and they clean super easy. Cleaning the deflector was surprisingly easy. I used a scraper and had it cleaned and sprayed with Pam in about a minute. I did forget to clean the firebox on my second cook and it failed to light. That’s one difference, but it’s so easy to clean! The FireBoard and app is way better than the traeger. I found the built in probe did not match the tell true probe, but there’s an offset to fix that. I found the traeger always off 15-20 degrees in temp and the probe temp, resulting in undercooked meats until I figured it out and started using the thermapen to verify. The FireBoard seems accurate. The probe wiring is very clean. I love that it plugs in from below! It keeps the wires out of the way better. Another big difference is the ability to add wood chips. I used those for the turkey and wow, the smoke is significant. And constant.
@snakedoctor416, I ordered my LSG waiting for delivery. How long did it take for you to get your order delivered from order date to delivery date? Thanks@@PelletsandPits
Compared to older pellet grills yes. The new Traegers produce way more smoke though. LSG and Traeger in that order are the #1 and #2 smoke producing pellet grills on the market.
Just like your phone? Your computer? Your internet equipment?...your refrigerator...parts on your vehicle...face it ...we have many things in our daily possession that are made from over seas....so the results are based on taste...not where they are made...
@@PelletsandPits nothing wrong with it at all. And that's awesome you got it from your dad. I just dabble in stock making and save all of mine. Merry Christmas to ya'll!!
Mentioned below but it’s worth repeating. LSG is made in America by American hands not Chinese junk. I’ve found small bones fragments on some rib ends so I always rinse and pat dry.
It’s annoying to keep hearing the term “Chinese junk” like it’s China’s fault. Remember it’s the damn company that decides on going cheap. How is your iPhone built quality?? Made in china, ignoramus
I love my LSG, for lots of reasons, but not so blind to think other grills can cook just as good. When I first got it, I did side by side comparisons with my MAK. When I purchased the MAK, seemed to be considered one of the best around. Like you, we couldn’t taste a bit of difference. That’s not to say I don’t like the LSG way more.
@@SanJoseDale agreed. The upside of this grill with the available accessories, fire board etc just make it that much better for then long the Investment.
I've owned two different Traegers. To get similar flavor you have to cook differently and place the meat differently on each unit. You also have to cook at different temperatures to get similar flavor. Bottom line is you have to really know how to use your grill. Once a month and one YT video isn't going to make you one with the grill. Get out there and cook.
Well I see 1 flaw in this comparison. You didn’t maximize the lone star smoker capability. Lone star is the only smoker that you can add wood chips to the hopper. If you’re going to lower the lone star capability to the treager then what’s the point of the video?
Exactly what you just said...since the traeger can not use wood chips...would not be a fair comparison....this wasnt the best of what the smoker could do...it was compared side by side with equal will the taste matter..it did not....if you add wood chips that absolutely throws and advantage towards Lone Star
Both of those smokers are like race cars and you put in low grade fuel into them. Pellets matter and provide flavor and pit boss pellets are cheap wood
Yeah, I'll go ahead and pay the $1700 for the WWP, instead of the $3000 for the lone star. I keep seeing these creator try so hard, it's almost disappointing to them when the Lone Star doesn't win.
Seriously, who wraps their ribs like that…wtf. Why not fold the paper tightly around it, it was like you were trying to make a foil boat with paper. Really doesnt help validate your opinions when you cant do simple things right…
ahhahaha to each their own...the way I folded the ribs have absolutely nothing todo with the final test...we have other videos...matter of fact...we typically dont wrap...
What a dumb comment...really....why even watch if pellet grills are not your liking...and for the record...maybe watch more than one video before acting so immature ....
The HONESTY is what really makes your channel. You’re not bought and paid for and that really means somethin to us viewers when we looking for info.
Bottom line is, the cook matters a whole lot more than the smoker.
couldn’t agree more to that.
Fantastic job on both Grills. Seems that the only difference was the cooling down faster. Loved the way that both slabs of ribs looked and tasted the same and you were fair in all your comparasions. Thanks for sharing with us Neil and Amy. Merry Christmas to you and your families. Fred.
Thanks Fred...Happy New Year
I've owned the 42" pellet smoker from LSG and owner Chris basically since they rolled out (also have a 36" model)....and I've used just about every brand pellet smoker that's common (aside from I believe Pitts and Spitts model) and I can tell you nothing so far has come close to the tank-like build quality and pure smoke (95% blue) generation as the LSG. This thing will constantly pump blue smoke during the cook. I've had ppl at comps walk up and THOUGHT it was a sticker burner and when I show them the 40 lb hopper they are mesmerized. I used to compete on it (and won quite a few) but I gave graduated to drums because of the cook time aspect and getting more sleep. The 42" is still my go-to smoker at the house for cooking due to the set and forget aspect while I tend to other things. Also, the Fireboard controller built in is amazing with the all the features it has built in...esp setting certain temp adjustments based on internal temps and the ability to log notes and pictures during specific cooks.
Agree with all that...100...I was surprised about how similar the taste were between the two....Im not sure if this is relevant...but to clarify...this was not a what smoker is better...hands down like you mentioned and for me many other reasons...but just a side by side comparison in taste...
totally agree with what you said. I think ppl need to realize at a certain level of experience we can all make food great on most all kinds of smokers. My view point is subjective but I view it for a purchase power dollar to dollar ....the LSG is truly hard to beat and growing in popularity rapidly.
@@PelletsandPits
@@Ribpublicansbbqteam well said.
@@PelletsandPits thank you. Just trying to speak subjectively from experience but i have been very impressed with LSG and Chris and his staff has been some of the best Customer Service to deal with….even calling me on a Saturday night to fix an issue…
@@Ribpublicansbbqteam again… same here. I have no personal or business relationship with him. But several times we have went back and forth on ideas and a few concerns that turned out to be nothing. If asked by people I will give my personal opinion… I know the price is not for everyone. Thats the biggest drawback. But when it is in their price range it’s an absolute no brainer. Heat air flow. Space, extra features like a charcoal basket I love, the fire board, pull out and removable shelves, thick metal, lower noise, wood chips, big hopper, I mean it just keeps getting better 😂😂
As the first commenter and liker, thank you for this comparison before I even watch it, 2 minutes after you released it.
Hope you enjoyed it!
Both racks looked nearly identical color wise other than the slight difference in browning you mentioned. As I watched you biting the meat off the bone, at least from my perspective, it looked as if the meat bit more cleanly off the bone on the Lone Star ribs than the Traeger. It seemed the Traeger ribs were not quite to the “bite cleanly off the bone” level of cooking. Perhaps that was due to what you noted in how quickly the Traeger cooled down vs the Lone Star. There was more carry over cooking in the heavier walled steel grill, thus the ribs cooked ever so slightly more during the resting phase. I wouldn’t be disappointed with either rack as a finished product.
Very well written...thanks
It’s all about using each vessel correctly to achieve greatness. Great comparison.
Damn, sir! You made my mouth water when you guys tasted those ribs! I just pulled the trigger on buying an LSG 42" unit, I can't wait until it gets here!
Great comparisons Neal! Both are a success , Cheers brother 🍻
Thanks ...Cheers
Great video, thanks. Can you compare with briskets next?
I have a few...i could do something...
Thanks man, great video. I have no doubt both grills can get same results. I don't have a Lonestar but the reason I want one is longevity. The Lonestar is very expensive but seems like an heirloom thing that will last your lifetime and probably your sons. The Traeger, Pitt Boss etc big box store pellet smokers seem to have a 2 to 3 year life span. I've been through 2 Pitt Bosses in 6 years. Both catastrophically failed in the middle of a cook and we had to finish in the oven. Both did great, as long as they did.... Well, thats my 2 cents....
Also, with such thin medal cooking in the cold is a challenge. Prepare to double your pellets and babysit that thing to maintain temps...
Thats unfortunate...ive had my first Pit Boss Navigator for 3 years now...still puring..hope it doesn’t crap out to..hhaha Yeah the LSG is definitely a pass on item....holds excellent heat..thick and very very well designed
I’m gonna give those pellets a try. I’ve seen’em and never thought to much about’em. I’m a B&B man myself. I can’t find none better. Thanx for the comp vid. 👍
Honestly I would stay with that...i am a b and b fan as well..for the price and flavor...its spot on
The biggest difference should be fuel efficiency and thermal loss. I just got the LSG 20X36 offset and can't believe how little wood it takes to complete a cook.
I found your video trying to decide equipment for my outdoor kitchen. I really like your videos. Very honest takes!
I think you solidified my choice I’m going with the long star pellet and a long star smoker
Hey I appreciate that...Chris is a great guy....mine still purs like a champ...
Excellent comparison cook. I love pellet grills. There is a lot of technique and finesse in pellet grill cooking the js fun for experimentation. Looking forward to seeing more!
Thanks for watching bud..looking foward to it as well...have so many ideas and not enough time.hahahah
Lone Starz is my dream smoker :). Such a beast of a pellet smoker!
I smoked ribs last weekend and did 1 rack with 'Que That and 1 rack with a Meat Church rub and everyone liked the 'Que That better!
Holy cow...now thats HIGH praise....Truly thankful for that...WOW....thank you
Several thoughts. First agree that not glopping it up with sauces and such gives the meat a chance to shine (if you get good pork).
Second, I'm surprised at how little pull back on the bone you got, assuming they were pull off the bone tender.
Third, I understand your wanting to "equalize" the comparison by cooking on the upper grate keeping roughly the same distance from the heat source, but given how differently they exhaust the heat/smoke I wonder if the LSG would have benefitted from cooking on the lower grate with the rib rack favoring the stack end. The idea being that it might induce a bit more smoke layering on the meat (although you didn't specifically mention smoke flavor profile).
Not the biggest fan of fall of bone tender...but completely agree...no clue about the on grate vs top grate..people swore to use the top grate for brisket...some say don’t matter...had to choose something...
On your lone Star pellet grill. Do you think the stainless steel shelves are better than the ones that come with it? Love y'all's channel. Keep up the good work!
MIne has a few scratches...but it does not bother me...I honestly liked the black over the stainless because of the glare...i have glasses and when that sun hits just right...just drives me nuts...to be honest...thats the only reason why I picked mine black
I love Ribs on my Broil King pellet. Cheers and Merry Christmas
Heck yeah. Merry Christmas bud.
I would like to watch the same comparaison with the weber searwood.
All three...or Traeger vs Weber
@@PelletsandPits The most convenient for you. We know that the Traeger or the LS are good pellet smokers, I'm just trying to verify if a pellet grill like the Weber Searwood can really smoke correctly the protein. If it's the case, it's insane because it's way more versatile (searing,rotisserie, griddle) with the accessories that the Ironwood for example and for "only" 900 dollars (1200 for the XL).
@@PelletsandPitsBring on all three grills!
Neil, you rock as a teacher and family man. The Microwave Queen is wonderful. Good job and Merry Christmas!
Hey Merry Christmas bud...
Great video. I know for me the LSG was my prime pick due to the construction quality, the features you mention, but honestly a lot of just really smart design elements that help avoid pellet cooker issues like the super easy to remove burn pot for insanely quick burn pot cleanouts, the super short open auger that drops to the chute to avoid jamming and burn back issues. Those are the things I spent so much time that felt like it was wasted on a more traditionally designed pellet smoker that now I don't have to waste my time on.
Regarding taste, not super surprised you don't notice a difference. Maybe a longer smoke like a brisket or pulled pork might show? Also it might be the pellet. Don't take this the wrong way, use the pellets you like, not a pellet snob. Though I know videos where people side by sided them those pellets often didn't add as much smoke flavor as say something like the Knotty Wood ones. You might be hitting a smoke flavor cap on the pellets. I know others have reported the LSG kicking out more smoke than other pellet grills (mine seems to be the case, but I only have my previous GMG to compare to) but that could be limited by the amount of smoke a pellet can offer. Though I doubt the difference (even if that is the case) would be massive.
Appreciate the comment...cheers
Excellent comparison. I own RecTek and Green Mountain. Both do the job. The computer temp settings are different but when you learn your grill you get the same results. Merry Christmas to you and your family.
Amen. Merry Christmas to you as well.
10:inches….lol! Anyway…both ribs look juicy, great color and mighty tasty Neal! I do think the LSG ribs had a cleaner to the bone bite from what I could see. I’m just really digging that LSG. Dang now I’m wanting some ribs! Awesome content and results. Merry Christmas to you and your family my friend! God Bless!
Great test, I still want a Lone Star!
Me as well...
Not sure if you know, you can press and hold the dial on the Traeger to shut down instead turning the dial all the way down.
Yeah...that was my fault...had not used it that much ...2 times on that video...thats on me...thanks for helping
Have done a comparison between Recteq and Weber Searwood 600?
I dont have a recteq...
@ Okay but you have reviewed the Searwood 600 and you feel it’s a good grill for smoking only? I have a Weber 26” that I do my actual grilling on. I can smoke on it but want a pellet grill for smoking only. I’m torn between the Recteq Deckboss 590 and the Weber Searwood 600.
Another good video guys THANK YOU FRANK FROM MONTANA....
Thanks for watching Frank...got your letter....truly appreciate you...
@@PelletsandPits always will watch my friend .. Hope y'all have a good holiday .FRANK
Great video, Thanks!
Both racks looked amazing to me. Total home run! Those look so tender and juicy.
This was very helpful, thank you for making this video.
You're very welcome!
What brand is the knife you use in this video? Btw my wife got me the seasoning trio for Christmas, thank you for the great videos and products!
Hey thats great...hope you enjoy...in this one its a victorinox...I actually have the link listed below
Not the boning knife, the black one you use at the end of the video, and thank you for answering questions and interacting with us, not everyone does that.
I have a traeger 575pro…got for $600 and it makes everything perfect besides brisket….i know the lone star will win but holy shit their built right
Great video ! I’ve been a Traeger guy since 2005 but I’m really itching to get that LSG!
They offered different types of cooking grates /LSG. Is there any reason to go with anything other than the standard ones that you’re using? I want to be smart with my add-ons.
reach out to me privately for this...i can help ya with the add ons..if needed...
Would you consider running this test back and using wood chips in the LSG? I feel that it would be using one of the main features of the LSG. Thanks
Yes we plan on doing that exactly...
@@PelletsandPits Appreciate it sir. Looking to learn the most I can before I get mine!!
Based on bite it looks like the Traeger had a little more chew as it didn't pull away from the bone like the rib on the Lone Star. My guess is that is due to the metal thickness on the Traeger causing temp swings in the cold. I used to have a Traeger but got tired of winter cooking requiring the use of a blanket. If this was only basedon smoke taste I'd say it doesn't matter much but I'm interested in meat tenderness, amount of pellets used by each pit, the cook process for cost and efficiency. I'd have also like to have seen a little more inspection all the way around of the ribs to see or determine if each pit had hotter, cooler, more or less smoke areas. Overall though those ribs did look good but I'd take the ones of the Lone Star just based on what I saw and heard on the bites. Great ribs!
Well said...Im sure down the road..I can do something like that...
Fantastic comparison. In your extensive arsenal of cookers do you have a Kamado style grill?
I do...I have the Weber Summit Charcoal....its been renamed the Weber Kamado
Looks great. I love smoking ribs and St. Louis are my favorite. I’m never short on tasters.
ahahh true...
Should have added wood chips to the LSG, cause that really sets it apart. That and see smoker condition between the two in 10 years.
Unfortunately I disagree...only for a few reasons...Absolutely 100 percent it sets it apart...but its not a fair comparison when the other unit cant do it...so when compared apples to apples thats the whole point...no doubt the LSG is a better unit even for the longevity...but I can see the future hahahaha
Neal pick your favorite between the two smokers and send me the other one! Great video mate thanks for sharing!
hahahh absolutely...have another one coming...
Nice review video. Is the Ironwood worth the extra $$$$?
Honestly i dont think so...That doesn’t mean its not a fantastic unit...but you're asking about price...do I believe its worth 2,000...No open flame, no accessories like the Lone Star....I just dont think so...
Do a review on the camp chef woodwind pro please. These 3 are in my finals to buy one. lol
I came close to buying...but held off...im close though...
@@PelletsandPits please do. I enjoy your reviews. Very honest. I need help. lol thank you
Beautiful amount of smoke on both of them👍😊
In theory, both smokers should create very similar tasting ribs. What I want to know, is which grill will produce consistently high temperatures for years down the road? Neither my Traeger nor my Camp Chef will get above 400. My Traeger might hit 375 and the Camp Chef wheezes to get to 330. Yes both machines are clean.
how old are they...we have plenty of videos of both over that temp...
I’d be curious to see how much difference adding wood chips to the LSG would be.
I add them in just about every video...BUT in this case and trying to be fair...I did not because the Traeger can not....maybe wasnt the right decision but....thats what I had in my mind...cheers
@@PelletsandPits I think that’s the advantage worth a comparison. I know it’s not considered “fair”. But in the real world, why not take advantage of the feature? It’s there for a reason. Either way, I’d be curious to see if it makes a discernible difference. Knowing that pellets alone the two are very close, you could do some butts or ribs comparing the Treager on pellets to the LSG with chips. I’ve been looking at the LSG and Yoder YS640, the idea of wood chips in the LSG really has me leaning that way. But I know the Yoders’s pretty well since my dad has a YS640 and YS1500.
@@cpftank09 yes that could absolutely be a video. That way in the video I can’t explain the difference etc. I just want to make clear chips are not used in all smokers etc. many many people reach out asking if they can. Great video for sure. I wish I had two of the same smokers etc. that way the pellet flavor can change as well. Just to tell difference
I'm going to guess the ones on the left (your right) are from the LSG as they look like they have better bark.
Yup. Also, remember that the LSG can take wood chips apparently, so that gives it another leg up. There are some pellet smokers that take wood chunks, but you can't just dump them in there like you could in a gravity fed smoker, you have to put a wood chunk on the fire every 40-45 minutes. If you're going to put wood on the fire every 40-45 minutes, just use an offset and get a better product for the same amount of work.
You should try the cold smoke feature on the Lsg. Lot my ribs and meats. i will cold smoke it about 1 hour before the regular cook. You will get a lot heavier smoke flavor. Plus, they just had an update for the fireboard, and i feel it works litte better than older firmware. I had to msg fireboard to get the update
Thank you...can you elaborate...whats up with fireboard...how did you know..what can i do...etc....mine seems fine..but
You can also use the super smoke function on the traeger for the first hr or so. It helps add more smoke flavor as well. The downside is that it only works if you set the temp at 225 or less. I think the LSG is a better smoker, and I love it is made in the USA, but I can not afford it. I bought the Traeger Ironwood (non-XL) on sale, and it was above what I should have spent, but I have been very happy with the results so far. For us folks that can't swing top of the line, it is good to know it does a respectable job. Thank you for this comparison video.
I would think the bigger differences between the smokers would be in features, controls, etc rather than how it cooks unless the heat is horribly uneven or inaccurate in one of them.
My gripe with Lonestar is gasket placement,should be on movable door not on stationary cooker
You can remove it from cooking chamber and install on the lid. Texas Bluesman did it to his , video is on his channel
Recteq all the way! May you and your family have a safe, Blessed and a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
Happy holidays!
I'm hearing stock grill vs stock grill the Traeger is a better value, correct? Taste are the same?
no....this was based solely on taste...thats where they are the same....the lone star has better features, size and build quality...not anywhere near same...
But the taste is the same? End of the day it’s about taste.
I still can’t decide what I want to replace my Laredo with. However every time I watch your videos that Treager XL is just putting out more smoke than the others you have.
not trying to have you watch more...but have you seen my just uploaded Smokin Pecan Pellets...it shows just how much better the Traeger preformed...
@@PelletsandPits I did and I’ll watch it again!
The ironwood'S FAN go to high when cooling down. This cooles it down faster. I don't know about the lone star
So no noticeable difference in the smoke taste? Other reviewers say the smoke in the Lonestar is phenomenal. On my Traeger, I usually can't tell what type of pellet I've used, so I've always been curious if that's just me, maybe my pellet grill, or other factor.
I cant tell different flavors as well....I can barely when compared side by side...but not day from day.....as per the test...if you take the emotion out of it...use the same pellet flavor....you cant tell...no way...
@@PelletsandPits thanks! I agree
Great video! If you add Lone Star's wood chips - the difference will likely be significant.
Although I 100 agree a difference would be there...not necessarily a fair comparison since the traeger does not have that option...that was my goal...head to head...BUT....definitely worth another video for sure
@@PelletsandPits Totally valid point. Comparison vids are tough. Thank you for all your hard work!
Great comparison. Look and your bite go to the LSG. How about a long cook like brisket or pork butt. Thanks! 🍻
Yeah...we will definitely do something...
I have a treager ironwood XL and i find the ambiant temperature runds 25 F below the treager shows on the D2 controller. Does yours do that also???
depeneds on where my thermometer is located...if close to theirs...yes....if on the other side....its off...
On my ironwood XL it is low everywhere. I cook to the recipe temp and time and the food is always way under done
Next you need to add in the wood chips that they sell and utilize its full smoke producing capability.
We do in several or just about all videos...but I didnt do that in this case because the Traeger could not do it...would not be a fair comparison
I'd go LSG because of it being USA made. Traeger is overpriced for chinesium imo. Nice ribs!
ive gotten ribs down to about 1 1/2hrs. In case time is a must. I do 18min in the instant pot and then take em out and put them on the smoker at 285 until done. it works so well its a trip 😂
WOW..something I would not thought of...sounds so wrong..but you must like it...thanks for sharing..
What brisket knife are you using?
something that Pit Boss sent us...its not serrated...dont know if I honestly love it...I like it...just dont love it...
Thanks for the quick come back. I enjoy your vids a bunch.
Gotta hide that tape measure boy! Haha good job on the cook man
hahaahha You know it...
How much was the Lone Star?
around 5,000 with all my options, taxes and delivery...right at 3,000 before all that
Do a nice Picanha Roast or a Prime Rib comparison. its the season for it
I do not...but that would be a great comparison.....I was thinking about the comparison of brisket cook but using tri tip vs chuck roast
My tape measure I hide from my wife, laughing out loud!
ahahahha
After reviewing the video, the only other comparison would be how much pellet usage was done with each smoker. You put the exact same amount of pellets in each smoker. I would guess that the Traeger would use more pellets being that its heat retention is not nearly as good as the Lone Star!
BUT....its a smaller unit...I think its very very efficient....I honestly think it uses less...not by much....but less
Or sure which traeger but they do have a double walled unit there will retain heat well. I have one that I use all winter in Canada. Having said that, my LSG just arrived yesterday. It’s seasoned up now and ready for a test cook today before Christmas turkeys tomorrow.
@@snakedoctor416 great timing… love to hear your feedback
@@PelletsandPits I’ve cooked some, boneless chicken breasts, smoked a salmon and a turkey. The difference in the grills is significant to me, but some reasons spin still trying to understand. The seasoning stands out more on the LSG significantly. On Sunday I did 8 boneless skinless chicken breasts, 4 on each grill. The LSG breasts were a bit more moist but the flavour on them was significantly stronger. I need to reduce the amount of rub I use with the LSG. Not sure why, but the turkey also reinforced that.
For the turkey, being able to turn the turkey around to help it cook more evenly made a difference big difference. With the traeger, I never noticed turning it made much difference. The skin on the turkey was way better. I’d watched another video where the guy said he covered the skin in foil when it hit the colour he wanted. I ignored it because that’s never been an issue. My turkey was very dark and the skin split in a few places. The split may have been because I increased temp the last 20 minutes to speed up. The rub was stronger than I expected, like the chicken.
Cleanup is was easier. I expected that though. I got the stainless grates and they clean super easy. Cleaning the deflector was surprisingly easy. I used a scraper and had it cleaned and sprayed with Pam in about a minute.
I did forget to clean the firebox on my second cook and it failed to light. That’s one difference, but it’s so easy to clean!
The FireBoard and app is way better than the traeger. I found the built in probe did not match the tell true probe, but there’s an offset to fix that. I found the traeger always off 15-20 degrees in temp and the probe temp, resulting in undercooked meats until I figured it out and started using the thermapen to verify. The FireBoard seems accurate.
The probe wiring is very clean. I love that it plugs in from below! It keeps the wires out of the way better.
Another big difference is the ability to add wood chips. I used those for the turkey and wow, the smoke is significant. And constant.
@snakedoctor416, I ordered my LSG waiting for delivery. How long did it take for you to get your order delivered from order date to delivery date? Thanks@@PelletsandPits
Everyone who owns the LSG pellet grill says it smokes like no other, interesting.
Compared to older pellet grills yes. The new Traegers produce way more smoke though. LSG and Traeger in that order are the #1 and #2 smoke producing pellet grills on the market.
I can tell you which one is better. It is the one still made in the USA.
Just like your phone? Your computer? Your internet equipment?...your refrigerator...parts on your vehicle...face it ...we have many things in our daily possession that are made from over seas....so the results are based on taste...not where they are made...
Both look great, but it really does mess with my OCD that chine bone wasn't removed. 🤣🤣
ahhahaha Dont ask why...maybe because growing uo thats how dad made em...but I lve the bones and skin....we dont shy away from em....
@@PelletsandPits nothing wrong with it at all. And that's awesome you got it from your dad. I just dabble in stock making and save all of mine. Merry Christmas to ya'll!!
Hey neal do you like dino beef ribs
I do...never cooked em....YET...hahahah
@@PelletsandPits i know how i smokem but cant to see how you do it.
Merry christmas to you and your family good sir
Mentioned below but it’s worth repeating. LSG is made in America by American hands not Chinese junk. I’ve found small bones fragments on some rib ends so I always rinse and pat dry.
It’s annoying to keep hearing the term “Chinese junk” like it’s China’s fault. Remember it’s the damn company that decides on going cheap. How is your iPhone built quality?? Made in china, ignoramus
Nice!
Wow, you really stepped in it now, all the LSG guys are gonna be really upset. LOL
ahhahahah.....when its side by side....in a video...unedited...its undeniable....
I love my LSG, for lots of reasons, but not so blind to think other grills can cook just as good. When I first got it, I did side by side comparisons with my MAK. When I purchased the MAK, seemed to be considered one of the best around. Like you, we couldn’t taste a bit of difference. That’s not to say I don’t like the LSG way more.
@@SanJoseDale agreed. The upside of this grill with the available accessories, fire board etc just make it that much better for then long the
Investment.
I've owned two different Traegers. To get similar flavor you have to cook differently and place the meat differently on each unit. You also have to cook at different temperatures to get similar flavor. Bottom line is you have to really know how to use your grill. Once a month and one YT video isn't going to make you one with the grill. Get out there and cook.
Then just use salt n pepper and stop masking the flavors with bbq rubs. Smoke will not penetrate thru heavy rub.
what.....????? is this the first video of mine you have seen?
Well I see 1 flaw in this comparison. You didn’t maximize the lone star smoker capability. Lone star is the only smoker that you can add wood chips to the hopper. If you’re going to lower the lone star capability to the treager then what’s the point of the video?
Exactly what you just said...since the traeger can not use wood chips...would not be a fair comparison....this wasnt the best of what the smoker could do...it was compared side by side with equal will the taste matter..it did not....if you add wood chips that absolutely throws and advantage towards Lone Star
Both of those smokers are like race cars and you put in low grade fuel into them. Pellets matter and provide flavor and pit boss pellets are cheap wood
ahhahah......ok
10-fo on the tape measure.
ahahhhah
Yeah, I'll go ahead and pay the $1700 for the WWP, instead of the $3000 for the lone star. I keep seeing these creator try so hard, it's almost disappointing to them when the Lone Star doesn't win.
Woohoo ! I am like 777. Peace !
Maybe edit out the chewing noise next time...geez!
ahahhah Na....im good
The big difference one smoker is made in China.
Yeah....but the taste wasn't different...thats the point of the video..
Great video until the super loud chewing with your mouth open sounds…
Noted!
I couldn’t watch past the first minute. Can’t take you serious when you did zero prep
Because we dont trim the ribs...we like em that way....what a joke...I only cook what we like...why should I change...
Seriously, who wraps their ribs like that…wtf. Why not fold the paper tightly around it, it was like you were trying to make a foil boat with paper. Really doesnt help validate your opinions when you cant do simple things right…
ahhahaha to each their own...the way I folded the ribs have absolutely nothing todo with the final test...we have other videos...matter of fact...we typically dont wrap...
It’s an oven. There is no smoke. Grow up and cook real bbq
What a dumb comment...really....why even watch if pellet grills are not your liking...and for the record...maybe watch more than one video before acting so immature ....