@@shinigami_kira9675 lol its the other way around for me. The singularity pull out thing confuses me because I dont know when I can shoot. The oni phantom is more obvious
@@aaronjohn7346 he's talking about people who run and gun with spectres not vandal. It's actually more forgiving to use spectre and phantom while moving or if you forgot to counter strafe
simple breakdown: phantom is better for near to mid range while vandal is better if it is long range defensive side: phantom attacking side: vandal use a phantom if u are playing around with smokes
QOTD: honestly I'm not interested in Icebox being apart of the competitive rotation. I think it is a really stupid map, but that is probably because I only got to play it 4 times before it got added to the lineup and now I can't make the necessary call outs to my team. I also just don't like the map, the asstetics of the map are nice and it seems well done, but there are many problems that I have with it. I am more of a vandal person, I find that it is easier to use and control. The Phantom to me feels way to shaky and hard to control, I was a big fan of the M4A1-S in Counter Strike because I like the feel of suppressed guns, but the phantom ruins that feeling for me. I have watched most of the videos regarding maps and aim because I just came back to Valorant after taking a break for half of Act 1 and the entirety of Act 2. Getting used to Kill joy being there was hard enough, but my reaction time and aim were pretty bad. The Vandal is normally my go to gun because I used it the most and I really like the Prime skin I have. My thing is that I can rack up kills faster with the Phantom, but I'm better at clutch situations with the Vandal. That's pretty much all I have to say.
i like vandal more but i know phantom is better. I like icebox, as it's omen's playground and i main him lol. he has so many tricks and omen plays you can do
@@fate6535 yeah, I understand that the phantom is better. But I when I played Counter Strike I primarily practiced the AK because it was probably the best gun, I could easily shoot enemies and if they played into where I predicted I could kill them with a single bullet. Icebox is a fun map with certain characters: Omen, Jett, Raze, sometimes Sage. But overall I feel like it gives those characters a major advantage as they can be in places that you normally don't expect someone to be in. I can understand that the map was designed with the purpose of challenging the players in order to make them think more strategically, but to the newer players and those that don't have much map knowledge it puts them at a disadvantage. I want a map that is easy for newer players to understand, but also can trip up pros. I think haven is probably the closest in that regard, while it might have the most sites, it is the easiest to play for both the attackers and defenders.
QOTD: Yes! Personally I really like the map, and there's a lot to learn still. But it definitely adds a much needed "freshness" to the game. I was a Vandal player, I don't know why I never gave the Phantom a proper chance. In the past few days I tried it more and I'm in love lol. The recoil difference is really big
I think it each weapon is better depending on the agents you play, I prefer the phantom as I play cypher and can reliably shoot through 1-way smokes or regular smokes with a less chance to die
@@lilchopan8418 no ban system is not necessary for now because there's only few agents available right now they can release it if theres 20 or more agents available in the game
Bruh that has no difference tho so it’s a waste of time just stick to right cuz you have been using it longer unless you played csgo and used left hand
I don't get people saying the phantom has the easier spray, I feel I can spray pretty consistently with the vandal securing kills, while the phantom the spray pattern goes side to side so fast before you even kill the first guy you're aiming for
Depends if your an attacker or a defender. The Phantom is better for defenders because it can be highly lethal when holding a position. The Vandal however is better for Attackers because its the perfect pushing a site weapon because its an easy to use one tap dink machine
what I have learned : Vandal Is For People Who Can Control A Harder Spray Pattern and Is Better For Long Range. Mean While Phantom's Spray Pattern is Relatively Easier to Learn and Control and Phantom Is A Lot Better for Short Range and It Sucks for Long Range.
The fact that tapping with phantom is better than tapping with vandal, anyway u r going to hit headshot, hitting a follow up shot after headshot isnt a hard task, phantom has better accuracy, so tapping with phantom is good, whether its spraying or bursting or tapping, phantom is better, but prime or elderflame skins have better visible tracers which helps in controlling spray or burst, and also it feels so good firing and getting kills, So for fun and ranked, use prime or elderflame skin, While for pro play, phantom is way way way better and gives advantage than using vandal
Wrong at 15 meters vandal is better because it’s only 4 shot instead of 5. And if at medium ranges to long ranges if you don’t get a head shot then body shot then ur gonna lose to the Vandal most of the time
@@koldex5922 well you see all the good players can headshot easily so body shot is not that important but in long ranges vandal is better I personally like phantom because of the recoil
I have the ultimate reason for being TeamVandal, I'm a Sova main and since he's Russian I want to use the gun that is closest to the AK (Even though it's more like a Galil AK Variant)
@@tatakaeZ72 If your forcing then fine but play close angles but still the stinger is the king for close angles. It can mows down enemies close range. Or the sheriff is really good if you can hit headshots.
Personally, i like to use the phantom better. The vandal's recoil is harder to control for me. Plus, i like the phantom better because its silencer makes me practically invisible when i attack from behind.
Can you ask riot to change the rank system and make it like using lp on league I have no idea why I'm stuck in this rank when I've won 80% of my matches in the last 20 games
i'm new to Valorant so i find the LMGs more comfortable for the current moment but opponents always get mad and say i'm bad for using it does anyone know why
what if people that is good with vandal tries a phantom but the gun sound is vandal sound :0 its just like using a gun with a skin and feels better because of the sound and skin
vandal = defender phantom = attacker cuz i thought that the phantom will win the fight when you have to do the 1v1 cause of the firerate and the vandal would eaily will when he just have to hold the site and shooting in long range
Whichever maybe better, but all of us can agree that Vandal gets the best skins.
Well, sadly phantom gets oni
Singularity too
@@washeddismiss dk bout you, but personally i didn't like oni phantom at all, Singularity tho was on another level
@@shinigami_kira9675 lol its the other way around for me.
The singularity pull out thing confuses me because I dont know when I can shoot.
The oni phantom is more obvious
I keep a Spline Phantom on me
Phantom or vandal
“After intense thinking”
Odin it is
Haha odin goes brrr
odin goes boom boom and dead
Vandal vs phantom?
Me:I’ll use the one with the better skin
Same lol
In that case, oni phantom and prime vandal is still a hard choice
@@ssammachi9615 yeah and reaver skin is also really good
@@blasterdarkness5649 the finisher of the reaver is the best one for me so far
Oni phantom & Reaver Vandal is my favorite
vandal weakness: people shooting spectre while straveing and running
@@aaronjohn7346 he's talking about people who run and gun with spectres not vandal. It's actually more forgiving to use spectre and phantom while moving or if you forgot to counter strafe
Lol that is true but then again u dont take short ranged fights. With vandal your first couple shots are everything.
simple breakdown: phantom is better for near to mid range while vandal is better if it is long range
defensive side: phantom
attacking side: vandal
use a phantom if u are playing around with smokes
You just have illuminated me with this comment, def trying it tomorrow
Thanks
Thx
Thnx
ayy thanks
"A headshot with the vandal will always be a kill"
me in comp slamming my desk because it only did 146 and got me killed
Mate I feel ur pain but God damn can I stop hitting a 148 then getting clapped with a phantom
Was it a wall bang
ToxinLab had to have been
@@toxin6584 probably because vandal gives 150
It must have been a wallbang otherwise I have used Vandal against an operator and it bullies the person using the operator XD
QOTD: honestly I'm not interested in Icebox being apart of the competitive rotation. I think it is a really stupid map, but that is probably because I only got to play it 4 times before it got added to the lineup and now I can't make the necessary call outs to my team. I also just don't like the map, the asstetics of the map are nice and it seems well done, but there are many problems that I have with it.
I am more of a vandal person, I find that it is easier to use and control. The Phantom to me feels way to shaky and hard to control, I was a big fan of the M4A1-S in Counter Strike because I like the feel of suppressed guns, but the phantom ruins that feeling for me. I have watched most of the videos regarding maps and aim because I just came back to Valorant after taking a break for half of Act 1 and the entirety of Act 2. Getting used to Kill joy being there was hard enough, but my reaction time and aim were pretty bad. The Vandal is normally my go to gun because I used it the most and I really like the Prime skin I have. My thing is that I can rack up kills faster with the Phantom, but I'm better at clutch situations with the Vandal. That's pretty much all I have to say.
Omg how u type these??
@@mikoo8193 wdym? by not being a 5 year old with ur keyboard wpm is easy
i like vandal more but i know phantom is better. I like icebox, as it's omen's playground and i main him lol. he has so many tricks and omen plays you can do
My man wrote an entire essay
@@fate6535 yeah, I understand that the phantom is better. But I when I played Counter Strike I primarily practiced the AK because it was probably the best gun, I could easily shoot enemies and if they played into where I predicted I could kill them with a single bullet. Icebox is a fun map with certain characters: Omen, Jett, Raze, sometimes Sage. But overall I feel like it gives those characters a major advantage as they can be in places that you normally don't expect someone to be in. I can understand that the map was designed with the purpose of challenging the players in order to make them think more strategically, but to the newer players and those that don't have much map knowledge it puts them at a disadvantage. I want a map that is easy for newer players to understand, but also can trip up pros. I think haven is probably the closest in that regard, while it might have the most sites, it is the easiest to play for both the attackers and defenders.
Phantom or Vandal
Me An intellectual : BullDog
Lol best comment
oDiN
The ADS mode of the bulldog is underrated
It does have the most predictable recoil
Guaridan and Bulldog have the least recoil and r pretty accurate
Vandal us just a more satisfying gun just hitting those one taps is just something else
Fax
True
very very true
Yeah it somehow gives some UDK to explain sime pro vibes
Yeah but also when you come up against actual good players, they won't give you a chance to one tap
video starts at 2:34
This channel is really improving my gameplay. Yesterday I used to aim at the floor and today i am getting aces and triple kills left and right!
6:53 Renya winked at us.... just wanted to point that out
True lmao
Where
@@soapimie2665 Look at the top right and she will wink. Well actually she blinks but she does it twice from 6:50-6:53
@@edelserna2369 Cant see
Nice sighting
I really thought you'll go for Vandal. I'm a Phantom fan too btw.
i can say it in 2 sentences. if your aim is good, us the vandal. If your aim is trash, use the phantom.
Vandal: Higher skill weapon; One taps
Phantom: Less skill; Better spray patterns
True
most pros use phantom tho
Phantom is better in close and mid ranges because of the higher fire rate. You don't get one tapped
yeah phantom is just a better weapon accept it
Less first shot inaccuracy, no tracers trough smoke, more rps... And u get why im using it :p
Noice guide!! Much needed one ngl :)
Vandal is a huge confidence booster for me
Specially when i am new to fps and everyone keep telling me to uninstall this game
QOTD: Yes! Personally I really like the map, and there's a lot to learn still. But it definitely adds a much needed "freshness" to the game.
I was a Vandal player, I don't know why I never gave the Phantom a proper chance. In the past few days I tried it more and I'm in love lol. The recoil difference is really big
My Opinion: Phantom = Defense, Vandal = Attack
😍🖒🖒
ima try that thanks
You can also use vandal in defend if you want to peek at long range , or phantom if you want to be aggresive .
when you are earlier than the notifs
I'm late
Lol
I think it each weapon is better depending on the agents you play, I prefer the phantom as I play cypher and can reliably shoot through 1-way smokes or regular smokes with a less chance to die
Vandal= AK47
Phantom= M4A1-s
Thx this help me actually more than the video lol
dang wheres the notifs, i saw this in my home page
Same....
We should have map selection option
yeah but only for unrated
True, just like in csgo
Yeah but I think it should come with pick and ban system 'cause some agents are too broken on some maps specifically and may be abused a lot.
@@lilchopan8418 no ban system is not necessary for now because there's only few agents available right now they can release it if theres 20 or more agents available in the game
that's what i wanted....... thnks a lot guys....
Just like sheriff one taps feel better than anything else on secondary, the same goes for vandal in primary.
Do a left hand mode or right hand mode. I'm stuck on which one to use
Bruh that has no difference tho so it’s a waste of time just stick to right cuz you have been using it longer unless you played csgo and used left hand
@@koldex5922 actually there is a difference. But you gotta know what is your dominant eye to make use of it
@@koldex5922 stop giving false info lol
I started using Vandal. My life changed :)
I don't get people saying the phantom has the easier spray, I feel I can spray pretty consistently with the vandal securing kills, while the phantom the spray pattern goes side to side so fast before you even kill the first guy you're aiming for
Phantom or Vandal?
Riot: gUarDiAN
Nope cant spray with guardian and one taps are tuff at certain points
this videos helped me to have better understanding of the game
Depends if your an attacker or a defender. The Phantom is better for defenders because it can be highly lethal when holding a position. The Vandal however is better for Attackers because its the perfect pushing a site weapon because its an easy to use one tap dink machine
2:10 how do you get that kill-picture?
I chose which ever gun i have on hand, but i prefer the firing sound of the vandal
this was so helpful!!!!
what name is dat outro music? pls tell
also you missed the damage rate of the guns
what I have learned : Vandal Is For People Who Can Control A Harder Spray Pattern and Is Better For Long Range.
Mean While Phantom's Spray Pattern is Relatively Easier to Learn and Control and Phantom Is A Lot Better for Short Range and It Sucks for Long Range.
Vandal shines on icebox. More space, longer distance fights.
i was a vandal player but as an omen player, I realized that phantom is better. (I don't really take long fights)
i pop off more with the vandal so I like vandal better.
Keep changing every round, subconscious created variation in location to play the weapon it's at best
what the fuck did u just say
Its always good to be a mix of both but i also have a little bit of an opper.
Very Nice Bro Keep It Up
Bro, the weapon in the left hand throws me off
What screen recording software you guys use for VOD review?
I find that the quantity of munitions is not a really good point for the phantom. The 5 bullets difference don't make vandal useless for spray.
im currently using both depending on the map
Can you give more detail?
I use the vandal when I am feeling good and confident with my aim, and sometimes buy the phantom if I am in a slump xD
Can you make a video for Specter vs Ares
The fact that tapping with phantom is better than tapping with vandal, anyway u r going to hit headshot, hitting a follow up shot after headshot isnt a hard task, phantom has better accuracy, so tapping with phantom is good, whether its spraying or bursting or tapping, phantom is better, but prime or elderflame skins have better visible tracers which helps in controlling spray or burst, and also it feels so good firing and getting kills,
So for fun and ranked, use prime or elderflame skin,
While for pro play, phantom is way way way better and gives advantage than using vandal
QOTD:What song do u use at the background plz tell me someone????
With the tracer thing, doesn't some phantom skins have tracers?
This man talks like a merchant NPC
This man is watching his buddy switch cards for him to say lol
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS FINALLY A VANDAL AND PHANTOM THANK YOU
I am the team of vandal, I feel that it is more precise than the phantom and also I fell that I makes more damage
phantom is the better weapon in most maps... vandal is only viable if you want to challenge people at a long distance
Wrong at 15 meters vandal is better because it’s only 4 shot instead of 5. And if at medium ranges to long ranges if you don’t get a head shot then body shot then ur gonna lose to the Vandal most of the time
@@koldex5922 well you see all the good players can headshot easily so body shot is not that important but in long ranges vandal is better I personally like phantom because of the recoil
I have the ultimate reason for being TeamVandal, I'm a Sova main and since he's Russian I want to use the gun that is closest to the AK (Even though it's more like a Galil AK Variant)
Thanks
whichever one has the best skin IS the best, no doubt.
Can u do ares or spectre
Don't use them other than the second round. Evn then i recommend going for a bulldog. Use ares if you are a sova main unless don't use them.
@@chiranadevsath8315alright i will try it
@@tatakaeZ72 If your forcing then fine but play close angles but still the stinger is the king for close angles. It can mows down enemies close range. Or the sheriff is really good if you can hit headshots.
@@chiranadevsath8315 ok thanks for advice by the way wanna valorant duo?
@@tatakaeZ72 which server are you playing on
QOTD: Icebox is really annoying to play on even in unrated. Comp will be a nightmare
Patch: 1.11
Video: 11:11
Phantom: Whatever game you’re playing it won’t work you can’t defeat me
Vandal: I know but he can
ELDERFRAME VANDAL
is it up to date?
Kids use - Phantom
Adolescent use - Vandal
Pros Use - Bulldog
Legends use - Guardian
Please don't get triggered it's only a joke.
@@vidhusharma9452 big boi brain use - classic
Firstly let me get out of the iron elo then I'll think about vandal and Phantom
I thought phantom was good at first but when I got better at the game I just learnt to use the vandal
phantom good. vandal also good. use whatever you like lol. I prefer the Vandal myself...
Personally, i like to use the phantom better. The vandal's recoil is harder to control for me. Plus, i like the phantom better because its silencer makes me practically invisible when i attack from behind.
I don't have a prime vandal skin but I have the latest phantom akin so I will go with phantom
I want to know if vandal or phantom is better with jett
still think that " ice box " is a mistakes too many angles and now killjoy and cyper being nurfed is the icing on the cake,
What about bullet penetration?
Its hard to think but i guess im going to choose vandal
What about the wall penetration?
I use both phantom and vandal depending on the map
bought my first weapon skin today so pumped but cant play 4 2 weeks as i am at school ;)
Left hand mode is sooooòoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo fcked up
how do you make that crosshair?
I love playing with vandal, but I'm trying to play Viper more so I need to start training with phantom instead
Can you ask riot to change the rank system and make it like using lp on league I have no idea why I'm stuck in this rank when I've won 80% of my matches in the last 20 games
Vandal all the way. Hitting 1 taps on enemies gives a next level satisfaction and confidence in your own aim
My heart says Vandal but my brain says Phantom
Frick Vandal and phantom
Legends use bucky
More like aimless noobs....
QOTD:THE NEW MAP IS THE BEST BECOSE I AM JET MAIN
ive been using vandal for a while and my aim started to rust so i played phantom and got so many more kills
I play vandal to improve my aim and keep it sharp. Really helpes with picking up an op. And sheriff
yessssssss for the new patch
2:40 if you want to skip the ridiculously long preamble
at first i really liked the phantom and hated the vandal, but now i love the vandal and cant control the phantom
For me..vandal is better..since i use a dot sight
i'm new to Valorant so i find the LMGs more comfortable for the current moment but opponents always get mad and say i'm bad for using it does anyone know why
because they might think the lmgs take no skill and get irrated from dying to you. Just do you buddy ^_^
idk i use both the vandal and the phantom and i’m pretty good of both of them
what if people that is good with vandal tries a phantom but the gun sound is vandal sound :0 its just like using a gun with a skin and feels better because of the sound and skin
I will go with the phantom when i attack, n vandal when i go to defense
Others getting kills with vandal and phantom and vandal and they compare em
Me who uses only bulldog everytime and gets kills :- InTeReStInG
As a Reyna main I would only play vandal because when I ult the phantom recoil becomes like how I pee in the toilet.
Didn't they post this video before?
vandal = defender
phantom = attacker
cuz i thought that the phantom will win the fight when you have to do the 1v1 cause of the firerate
and the vandal would eaily will when he just have to hold the site and shooting in long range
Basically the phantom only has to aim at the chest
Who needs Phantom and Vandal when u run and gun with a STINGER