Making an Odin's Grimoire +7 is like the Ultimate Odin fantasy, as it means you've been waiting and charging your magical attack for decades before finally unleashing it upon your enemy for minimal gain.
Magnus Gallant from Ogre Battle 64 also approves. In that game, you can progress the calendar by moving around the map constantly and then getting a free birthday gift on your main character's birthday, some which are crazy strong. The in-game characters will grow more and more tired of your shenanigans every birthday and the in-game glossary will display the actual ages of all the characters, despite their portraits or models never changing.
Do you have any insight on how supports work in this game? I feel this is a very obscure topic, specially on fates and its a shame because it can be very useful because of reclassing.
Yeah, I could do a video on that. A lot of the support mechanics are scattered across multiple sources and isn't really super consolidated into once place as far as I can tell.
Conquest birthday items: An awesome tome, a niche but useful dagger, another powerful tome. Birthright: uhh here's a twig, a piece of paper, and a *monke*
In FIre Emblem Fates, characters get rewards for their birthdays that help them out in the long run. But whenever MYyYY birthday comes, I just get a heaping pile of mental debuffs.
Funny how Conquest has the only real useful birthday items, save for maybe the Sunrise Katana in Rev. But as you say, it’s not really worth it, but man is it funny.
@@ChillstoneBlakeBlast serenes forest has this documented somewhere on their Fates section. I was just looking at it today. Probably under the same section as Tag Team.
I got recommended this on my birthday funnily enough, I never thought about doing this though it’s pretty interesting! if I played on emulator I would try it a bit, it’s kinda funny to think you’re technically prolonging the war for numerous years just to forge a dinky low level weapon lol
As far as I can tell, you will gain ~2 WEXP, or the equivalent of entering two combats with that weapon for all weapons that character that can use. It's really not much.
I think I've gotten most of these birthday items as random items my units found around the castle. Now I'm wondering how the game decides what loot your units should give you in My Castle.
As far as I can tell, it's random but the "higher tier" items only appear in later chapters. Testing this out in particular is much more difficult, though.
The system clock... you should have mentioned as an extra data, the actual 3DS console for the date potential limit (never mind, you mentioned the actual hardware issues). Edit: Conquest gifts are really good overall (Moonlight being the most useful), Birthright as expected, those are pretty much get them and sell them, Revelation the Lantern could be the only good one as emergency healing might save your life in the long run, but overall is still not good enough, just like Birthright birthday items, those are better suited for sell to get some money for other stuff.
Garon:"Why has Corrin not completed his mission of bringing me 100 Hoshidan heads?" Iago:"It would seem that he has learned the art of time travel so that he can take weaponry from his own troops."
It's a good thing you didn't find out about this until the online scene died, imagine if this information came out in Fates' hayday and everyone was running +7 Sunrise Katanas alongside dodge tank builds in the game's online mode.
Sunrise Katana is actually based, it’s the only sword aside from the Axe Splitter and the S rank Hagakure Blade that lets a Swordmaster use the awesome dual sword animations.
@@ryangallagher9723 To be completely honest with you, that's more of am issue with relying on dodgetanking in general than anything to do with Fates as a Fire Emblem title. If you put a character in a situation with multiple enemies, even if they have low hit rates against your unit of choice, you still risk at least one of them scoring a hit on you sooner or later if their chance to hit is anything above zero percent; this is true of any game that uses rng for calculations, I would assume. I feel like people just complain more about the rng of Fates for some reason than they do for other games, so it probably just feels worse because there are more people pointing it out, even though it's not the only game in the series to use the system to calculate rng
@@matthewkuscienko4616 The reason for that is the fact that Fates uses a different calculation formula for RNG than other games before it! IIRC, Awakening and a few other games would use a formula that rolls for two numbers (I think they’re averaged unless I’m mistaken), making high hit rates even higher and low hit rates even lower than the displayed hit rate. Meanwhile, Fates uses a single RN, which means the actual hit rate is closer to the displayed hit rate, causing low% hits and misses to happen more often, which generates complaints from some sections of the playerbase. I’m indifferent, personally, but I can see how it would be frustrating for some players, and how others might appreciate the added challenge.
@@Kris-ds6wj You can. Just have to go to a friend's castle on the BR or RV route that has a Dawn Armory and forge it there. (If you have no friends, then random Internet denizens.)
That would explain why I keep getting Odin's Grimoire so often. At least on my first save file. I also keep getting lots of Odin's Grimoire and Iago's Tome on that same save file as random loot everyone finds in my castle. I have a hunch that certain items are always acquired in my castle when different characters find loot laying around (although you can still get random loot).
probably the only route where tie traveling for gifts may be useful is conquest as you don't have infinite resources and using money to forge one weapon means another weapon type isn't getting forges. With birthday time travel shenanigans, you effectively get free weapons to forge at small cost (aside from time and ores you don't have)
Making an Odin's Grimoire +7 is like the Ultimate Odin fantasy, as it means you've been waiting and charging your magical attack for decades before finally unleashing it upon your enemy for minimal gain.
Classic Owain/Odin
Underrated comment, take my like.
Protracting a war for sixty-one years for the sake of plunder. Marth would be proud.
Magnus Gallant from Ogre Battle 64 also approves. In that game, you can progress the calendar by moving around the map constantly and then getting a free birthday gift on your main character's birthday, some which are crazy strong.
The in-game characters will grow more and more tired of your shenanigans every birthday and the in-game glossary will display the actual ages of all the characters, despite their portraits or models never changing.
@@Maxmagnus20019 that sounds way too funny, now I have another reason to play that franchise
Excelblem: Odin's Grimoire is more of a detriment to you than to the enemy
Also Excelblem: *forges a +7 Odin's Grimoire*
next video in this style will probably be about the Fates exp formula, let me know what other things you might want covered
Do you have any insight on how supports work in this game? I feel this is a very obscure topic, specially on fates and its a shame because it can be very useful because of reclassing.
Yeah, I could do a video on that. A lot of the support mechanics are scattered across multiple sources and isn't really super consolidated into once place as far as I can tell.
Conquest birthday items: An awesome tome, a niche but useful dagger, another powerful tome.
Birthright: uhh here's a twig, a piece of paper, and a *monke*
In FIre Emblem Fates, characters get rewards for their birthdays that help them out in the long run. But whenever MYyYY birthday comes, I just get a heaping pile of mental debuffs.
Happy birthday.
Congrats! You got a -2 HP debuff for the next 100 years ^^. Happy Birthday~
Funny how Conquest has the only real useful birthday items, save for maybe the Sunrise Katana in Rev.
But as you say, it’s not really worth it, but man is it funny.
More of these obscure mechanics. There are many many aspects of fates that are just not discussed or catalogued properly online
If there really more obscure mechanics like this in fates, Im all for seeing more of videos like this.
I'll be glad if Someone explains Passive Pair Up Bonuses (The bonuses that affect Hit, Crit, Avoid, Dodge)
Yeah, crazy how this stuff has barely been documented, despite how well Fates sold...
@@ChillstoneBlakeBlast serenes forest has this documented somewhere on their Fates section. I was just looking at it today. Probably under the same section as Tag Team.
@@duetopersonalreasonsaaaaaa It does. There is both character and class bonuses.
I do really like when you play fire emblem so incorrectly that you make unique discoveries and consistent information on vague mechanics.
I was waiting for this video ever since you time traveled in the streams
I cried when I saw the birthright items
I wouldn't be averse to seeing more of this type of content in the future.
I always set my birthday few days ahead of the day I start playing and time it that way to get the +4 birthday speed bonus for chapter 10.
love these longer edited videos it’s the good stuff
You are literally a mad man, I am so here for this content
I got recommended this on my birthday funnily enough, I never thought about doing this though it’s pretty interesting! if I played on emulator I would try it a bit, it’s kinda funny to think you’re technically prolonging the war for numerous years just to forge a dinky low level weapon lol
Now we know that Excel’s computer won’t live to see the events of Cyberpunk 2077.
I could've sworn I just hit Jakob's birthday in CQ and didn't get something on the list
Thanks for this vid regardless, i like learning about the things you can get in FE that would take too long to grind or reset for
"Oh boy what'd he do this ti-"
_only based on route and chapter_
"I don't like where this is going"
words cant describe the euthoria i feel when i watch videos like these.
Absolutely love this! Please make more videos about these little known and weird/scuffed, fire emblem mechanics
TIL I share my birthday with the twins. That makes 3 game characters (Futaba from Persona 5) I share a birthday with.
The most I ever got from doing this on my 3ds was a plus 4 sunrise. It took waaaaayyyy too long to even get that far.
how much weapon XP does the birthday grant?
every source I know just says "some"
As far as I can tell, you will gain ~2 WEXP, or the equivalent of entering two combats with that weapon for all weapons that character that can use. It's really not much.
Revelation? You mean the 19.95 Route?
The important thing is forging the +7 Marth's Glock to one-shot Ryoma with the haha funny meme tome
"But its funny"
THIS IS WHY I SUBBED
i remember having a save file so old i managed to +4 a sunrise katana just to make swordmaster corn untouchable
The paper scroll is funny, i like it
I think I've gotten most of these birthday items as random items my units found around the castle.
Now I'm wondering how the game decides what loot your units should give you in My Castle.
As far as I can tell, it's random but the "higher tier" items only appear in later chapters. Testing this out in particular is much more difficult, though.
I love fun but generally useless trivia like this.
You can do the time travel exploitation on the Citra and then transfer the savefile to a homebrewed 3ds
very informative. nice, and thank you.
This was glorious
I would LOVE a sunrise katana in Conquest; 50 avoid on Odin early game is really nice sounding
I'm very impressed
Plz do More of this!!!
Can't wait to not use this info because I don't want to time travel :D
for 3ds you can visit other my castles and find different ore
Rally skill not rally resistance on harp yumi
The system clock... you should have mentioned as an extra data, the actual 3DS console for the date potential limit (never mind, you mentioned the actual hardware issues).
Edit: Conquest gifts are really good overall (Moonlight being the most useful), Birthright as expected, those are pretty much get them and sell them, Revelation the Lantern could be the only good one as emergency healing might save your life in the long run, but overall is still not good enough, just like Birthright birthday items, those are better suited for sell to get some money for other stuff.
love it
How do you unlock marth's glock
I don't even know what to say.
Great video, I love dumb mechanics
Werid none of this showed up for me for I checkec
Fates has great music. The games themselves are somewhere between meh and not good
Wait I can have a +7 forge gard nagisaki I’ve been playing birth right wrong unkillable wall here We go
coment
this feature is a mistake.
More garbage please.
Garon:"Why has Corrin not completed his mission of bringing me 100 Hoshidan heads?"
Iago:"It would seem that he has learned the art of time travel so that he can take weaponry from his own troops."
Marth would be proud.
A worthy successor!
It's a good thing you didn't find out about this until the online scene died, imagine if this information came out in Fates' hayday and everyone was running +7 Sunrise Katanas alongside dodge tank builds in the game's online mode.
I did exactly that back in the day but just with a +1 version and the S rank blade (hagakure blade i think it was called. Also gives 20+ avoid)
You forgot the most important part of the Sunrise Katana: it looks cool when Swordmasters dual-wield with it.
Strangely, all this time-manipulation stuff sounds more believable than the Deeprealms.
If you really think about it, this is how the Deeprealms works actually
Sunrise Katana is actually based, it’s the only sword aside from the Axe Splitter and the S rank Hagakure Blade that lets a Swordmaster use the awesome dual sword animations.
There's also the Daikon Radish.
And spirit katana
The sunrise katana is one of the weapons that Swordmasters dual-wield, that's why you want a +7 one. It looks cool.
It's also worth mentioning that the +20 avoid it gives can make a swordmaster with a high speed stat very dodgetanky as well
@@matthewkuscienko4616 plus on a female swordmaster with the skills Awakening and Vantage makes it borderline insane.
@@matthewkuscienko4616 tbf dodgetanking isn't really a thing in fates because enemies have non-negligible hit rates
@@ryangallagher9723 To be completely honest with you, that's more of am issue with relying on dodgetanking in general than anything to do with Fates as a Fire Emblem title. If you put a character in a situation with multiple enemies, even if they have low hit rates against your unit of choice, you still risk at least one of them scoring a hit on you sooner or later if their chance to hit is anything above zero percent; this is true of any game that uses rng for calculations, I would assume. I feel like people just complain more about the rng of Fates for some reason than they do for other games, so it probably just feels worse because there are more people pointing it out, even though it's not the only game in the series to use the system to calculate rng
@@matthewkuscienko4616 The reason for that is the fact that Fates uses a different calculation formula for RNG than other games before it! IIRC, Awakening and a few other games would use a formula that rolls for two numbers (I think they’re averaged unless I’m mistaken), making high hit rates even higher and low hit rates even lower than the displayed hit rate. Meanwhile, Fates uses a single RN, which means the actual hit rate is closer to the displayed hit rate, causing low% hits and misses to happen more often, which generates complaints from some sections of the playerbase.
I’m indifferent, personally, but I can see how it would be frustrating for some players, and how others might appreciate the added challenge.
These videos are great. It's really interesting how you find these hidden mechanics that are generally never known about even in the hardcore fanbase.
Sunrise Katana would be poggers on conquest to compensate for the max weapon rank enemies in lunatic.
Can't forge katana's in cq
@@Kris-ds6wj Doesnt matter. Avo +20 is the big moneyshot.
@@Kris-ds6wj You can. Just have to go to a friend's castle on the BR or RV route that has a Dawn Armory and forge it there. (If you have no friends, then random Internet denizens.)
That would explain why I keep getting Odin's Grimoire so often. At least on my first save file. I also keep getting lots of Odin's Grimoire and Iago's Tome on that same save file as random loot everyone finds in my castle. I have a hunch that certain items are always acquired in my castle when different characters find loot laying around (although you can still get random loot).
Excelblem video without Marth killing meme and more than 59 seconds? Unacceptable.
Very interesting but silly. I think I would just grind gold using the dlc maps and buy the amiibo weapons since they don't have downsides
probably the only route where tie traveling for gifts may be useful is conquest as you don't have infinite resources and using money to forge one weapon means another weapon type isn't getting forges. With birthday time travel shenanigans, you effectively get free weapons to forge at small cost (aside from time and ores you don't have)
Debunkering the mechanics and paramters behind so-called "random" mechanics
The Paper +7 is the best tome.
Divine pulse fates edition
Weird that you started from sh*tpost to make actual guide (that are also sh*tpost sometime)
Fire Emblem Fates 20(7)76 OwO
commenting because i wanna see more of these
I believe the mine you get is generated at Ch.5, so if you get the "wrong" mine, you can replay Ch.5 and try again
Not when u spent 12 hours leveling up your Azura in this chapter
Crazy that a video about this took until now (well, earlier this month) to exist! :o
Very interesting
But at that point I'd rather just give myself something with FETwiddler lol
i swear you are actually insane excel, but funny to be sure
I love stupid garbage though
Ah, nothing like good old useless data.
Would love to see more videos like these!
Nice niche mechanic
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