This 20,000 Bangladesh estimate is complete fiction. Look at the census data. And they have arguably OVER representation on the present council, with 3 members out of the 25. According to official data, there are 4400 Bangladeshi in the entire LA area, not just in this neighborhood council district. They are heavily outnumbered by Koreans and Latinos, even white people in this area. Vice, you've gotta do better than this. Spend some time independently verifying facts and figures. It's one thing for Ktown and Bangladeshi reps to give out misleading and false info, but you guys call yourself Vice NEWS, do some actual journalism. This is really lazy reporting. holy shit: watched the whole thing. This is a hit piece. And I say that as a twinkie who thinks splitting the council up to get more funding and allowing council members to address needs with more specificity has merit. Just that a group who represents a tiny fraction of the population wanting to name it after themselves being the issue. (look back at the history, Bangladesh leaders wanted to actually rename Little Koreatown to Little Bangladesh in 2009 when they realized Ktown was never made an official city designated area). Jarin, executive vice president of the WCKNC, kept this petition a secret, never revealing it was in motion until she was legally obligated to just a couple of months before the vote.
VICE have been biased for years and modern economics for the press doesn't incentivise journalistic rigor. This isn't shocking anymore, no one should be watching any "news" or "documentary" without a grain of salt regardless of which side of the political spectrum you're on.
2015 estimates from the Pew Research Institute has it at 6000 for the entire Los Angeles area. 2017 Los Angeles Economic Development Corporation estimates has the Bangladesh as being .3% of the Asian population in Los Angeles County, so roughly 4400.
Vice is a garbage 'news' company pushing ideologies and meddling in elections. This is coming from a 'liberal'. Never trust any of their reporters or programs.
The 20,000 Bangladeshi people take 70% of the K-Town area from 100,000 Korean people who live in an area for nearly 4 decades. It's soooooooooooooo make sense.
Seriously VICE, I live in KoreaTowl Los Angeles, and I normally hugely respect VICE news, but frankly you are way off on this story. there are but a few Bangladeshi stores in the entire area, and tons of Korean stores / population. don't want to be politically incorrect, but is this a case of VICE trying to create a story of a forgotten group that simply don't exist in the capacity VICE represent? (at least not in KoreaTown Los Angeles) for the record Im originally from Denmark and there are maybe 100 of us in this area, maybe VICE could make a story about why the area is not called "Little Danmark" ?
Bangladeshi could do what Koreans did in past at different area. Before Koreans, Koreatown was basically another shitty part of LA. It started to develope when Koreans opened up businesses and started to cultivate the area. They survived riots and looting and rebuilt the place. Bangladeshi's want representation for them? They already have Little Bangladesh. If they want to expand it then do it there and build it, don't take shit from a place where it was built by Korean-American blood, sweat and tears.
The two things not really covered to my satisafaction were how much of a minority those from Bangladesh were in the area in proportional terms, and if they were truly a minority then why were they attempting to gain the larger half of the split territory in the first place?
Reichi Kirisaki 20k were Bangladeshi, but they have no presence. 6-8 businesses turned into 1000’s makes no sense all of a sudden. They were the ones who were power hungry in attempting to take over most of the territory lol.
If anyone is curious on how it ended “KOREATOWN, LOS ANGELES - Preliminary results of the vote on whether Koreatown would be divided to include Bangladesh Town overwhelmingly favored the status quo Wednesday. Among the 19,126 votes counted, 18,884 of them elected against the official recognition of a Bangladesh Town.”
I think the issue here is not that they don't want Bangladesh to have representation. However looking at the plan for the town is that it will be 60/40. It's like the Bangladesh is imposing the 60%. Korea Town is Korea Town its coming off as theft almost.
Sort of how those against ILLEGAL immigration are upset because they see ILLEGALS working jobs earning income but also collecting welfare for their kids etc. that qualify knowing that they earned only $3 too much this month so they get their food stamps cut? But they get called racists and xenophobes. There is a reason more blacks and legal immigrants are switching to team Trump and it's because hey are seeing it like it is. People want them to give up things and they feel stolen and cheated and unrepresented. America has some splainin to do and some hypocrisy to work out.
The Korean community raised awareness about the proposition within their community, communicated, organized, voted and they won, this is democracy. Don't be salty and cry Bangladeshis, go out and vote next time..respect the process!
Not a single Bangladeshi person in the video said they were crying or salty or upset with the result. It was entirely about the Korean perspective on the issue other then that women describing the store that's been around for awhile.
Jerry Parker u do realize they can't, right. Most of them would be immigrants. It's like saying, "illegal aliens go vote for the Democratic party". It's not possible, they don't have a citizenship, which in turn they just have to hope.
I live in l.a and I am not saying there shouldnt be a Bangladesh town, but I don't think taking half of Korea Town is the solution. I think it would be best to wait a little longer, a decade longer. I know that may seem very long but when u think about it, we self diverse ourselves and at a certain point, there will be 1 particular place in l.a that will densely be populates with Bangladesh people like K-town or China Town and ect. It's like if koreans lived in China Town and they decided to give half of China Town to make it K-town.
that would start a war in mainland. that's why this situation is so outrageous. there is history within the area. i would sue if they got more than 70 PERCENT of the main ktown area.
S M I agree,there could have been various other solution but they were being very impatient with high demends, and sadly it's going to probably sorta be the Trump effect. High demands in very little time won't feel outrageous anymore if they keep doing it then they might get something like 51% of K-Town and a large concil group which can out vote K-Towns council very easily.
If Bangladeshi businesses become the majority in that area, I don't care if it's renamed next year. The world is constantly changing, LA is constantly changing. It's okay. But maybe at least make it happen organically, by making your businesses the most recognizable and dominant feature of an area, not by trying to sneak a vote in. th-cam.com/video/-DNEV_EPRPY/w-d-xo.html
Having a small Bangladeshi minority group take a larger territory from the Korean majority is part of story, but Koreans want to keep what little representation they have in their area of majority. This is not racist, it’s about representation. Anyone calling this racist or bending it towards “white right” is insidious. It’s democracy actually. Let them voice themselves. They aren’t killing, raping, enslaving...it’s not like they said “Bangladeshis are rapists” and btw the “Koreans” here are actually Americans.
Lol, wait, if they’re a minority within k-town, why are they asking for over 50% of ktown to be appropriated to the Bangladeshi community? I feel like if they asked for a portion that better reflected their population within the district, most people wouldn’t care too much. But asking for that much just feels like a deliberate power grab, can’t blame the Koreans for not wanting to give up a large portion of their district to a group that seems to have decided that working with the Koreans alongside the Latinos isn’t worth it anymore.
Thanks for mentioning us... And yeah we are still here Lakota nation's chumash. Land is long gone but spiritually we will always be connected to this city. 500 yes later and still standing
Coffee AtMidnight I mean, sure, but it was taken. There was no politeness, it was taken like many other civilizations. Also i would say it rude to consider the Gabrielino, Chumash, and Tataviam all the same as the other 549 federally recognized tribes. If you want to know why they lost and settlers won, just keep reading the previous sentence until you realize, the feudalism of old, is a gigantic failure compared to what now exists over those tribes.
Laughable. 1st native indian tribe populations could never lived on the majority of North America land. 2nd What land rights would they had for nomads? Darn you are slow
Even if the bangladesh won democracy still works. People vote and theres a result, its not like if the result its not what you want democracy dont works
Everyone is saying mix in but I quiet split on this as I'm quite right wing but at the same time Korean. I mean I went to KoreaTown and its not like we hate america or some other stuff. We love America but when the 1960s LA riots were going on and the police went to go protect the white suburbs and left the Koreans to defend for themselves. We, Koreans came together and used our right of the 2nd Amendment to protect ourselves. 60% of Korea Town was burnt and like the American Dream we brought it up and now you want to split our hard work? The work our fathers and mothers brought up? In the comments you guys are calling us racist, territorial, unamerican and we are segregationist? I saw from my time many south-east asians, whites, hispanics and blacks eat at Korean restaurant. When has any Korean store refused service? We are Americans we follow the laws we learn the language and everything else.
"We wouldn't go into your town and change it" I'm pretty sure that's exactly what they did. So sad to hear a minority being a bit racist, I guess we forget that all nationalities and ethnicities are racist.
ziljin Asian's have traditionally throughout history have been quite xenophobic, religious persecutors, and had a superiority complex towards the rest of the world, China epsecially. Anyone that is surprised by these facts just need to open up a history book on how China, Japan, etc. blocked outside trade for 100's of years at a time, were constantly at war (both civil wars and national ones) obviously the case now isn't nearly as severe, but they still exist in minor form, as shown in this video
Since they're admittedly the ethnic minority the only thing that doesn't make sense here is why their council was going to encompass more than half of Koreatown. Seems like making a proposal for a smaller area where the Bangladeshies were the most concentrated would make more sense.
youtubeyoutubeyoutube No they didn't, it just sorta happend. Like silicon valley, it's just happened by coincidence that most wealthy business and people started to live there. And later it just became what it is now, at some point people just brought it up, and was like, "we need this space to be called something else, like TechValley
Korea Town is nothing like Silicon Valley. I used to live in Palo Alto, I would know first hand. Inflated housing market, everyone coming here to create start-ups and fail at a rapid pace and tech millionaires on every block. It's a different world in Silicon Valley. Korea Town is just some place to get food Korean food and groceries. Sure, there's culture, but the Indians are coming. They signed up and got it. Nothing can be done.
lol. People are just so silly, but you, I like you. You actually think of what these people are saying and it just makes zero sense. Even the journalist interviewer guy called them xenophobic and not wanting others to come here, basically segregating others.
youtubeyoutubeyoutube but that isn't the point of their petetion, they just didn't want the government or whomever is in charge of making these changes to just take a certain amount of culture and move it around like an object they can play around with. They k I and understand about the Bangladesh's peoples concerns but they don't want something that has been enticed into land and paper to be removed and replace it with something else. There is no real clash with ethier culture but they just don't want something that has been there for many many years to be gone. Just ask the Native Americans, thier land stripped away from the newcomers of Europe. I honestly think a better solution would be to wait. Waiting long enough for a place where there is more of them in one place where it would be more logical to separate K-town
the problem that most Koreans have isn't that bangladeshis want representation, it's that the bangladeshis are such a small percentage of the population would control such a large portion of koreatown
The irony of all this is that as the Bangladeshis and Koreans are talking about representation, they forget that Hispanics make up a majority of the neighborhood (though Koreans outnumber any individual Hispanic ethnicity)
What bugged me was when the guy said “I think the majority should be represented” because that’s exactly what we Koreans have been combatting. Obviously the majority has to be represented, but so do minorities. We are a minority, why oppose supporting others?
Jose Martinez Shifting blame I see. Now tell the truth. Mostly all races look after their own in some type of way. Yet were made to believe white people only do it, and are the worst of it. Far from true. But you knew that, right?
As long as you’re fine calling Little Italy as Little Europe, then fine. I’m sure the Irish would appreciate being called as coming from the same place as Italians.
geh. Am.. Reality check. Both Italians and Irish currently live in Europe and don't have a problem with the name of the continent, do they? It's the same thing, but on a smaller scale.
No, there’s a little Tokyo, Chinatown, and Koreatown in different regions. If you wanted to include all things Asian under one name it would take up a substantial amount of Los Angeles and everyone would complain.
Living in Koreatown as a Korean, I am honestly not impressed at the Koreatown council. What has that council brought to us that aren't the 1% ? How many new public parks are built in Koreatown, the answer is none . I honestly think there is 1 public park in the neighborhood of Koreatown. A great place to raise a family... How many high rise multi million dollar high rises are built, seems like one opens it's door everyday. It seems to be that the current council only cares about money and does not care about providing for the community.
Koreans built this community to what it is today, even after it was completed destroyed by the riots with blood, sweat and tears! No one is going to take that away ever!
kenim I'm SEA and we are pretty conservative too. The media thinks just because we're minorities we fall into the liberal group. I'm a centrist so I go with what makes sense. My father voted Republican for over 20 years. I don't agree with him all the time but it's America baby! Also Asians love the military. SEA believe being a military man/woman is a very Noble position. My father served and many served a long Americans and my brother and I both served. I plan on keeping the tradition. Asian American baby!!!!
Yes I agree Bangladeshis should have a place of their own. But don't put your own name on someone's elses work. It took decades for Korea Town to become as it is now. You cant just see finish work and put your own name on it. Power to you for having your own place. Just dont take someone elses.
In all seriousness, when it comes down to it, would you rather have all you can eat kbbq or all you can eat whatever Bangladesh food is. There ya go, I'm not even Korean but keep ktown as ktown, there's already little Bangladesh, I can see why they want some representation but look at the area they want to control, that's a lot to ask for
The Japanese in LA did it to the Koreans, and now the Koreans are doing it to the Bangladeshi. The Bangladeshi will eventually win, its only a matter of time.
To the people in the comments. As a member of the koreatown community, someone who’s grown up eating the food, someone who’s grown up being korean. I understand what you’re saying. A lot of us don’t think that they don’t deserve their own community, but how much they were asking, and where they were asking of it from, is where it began to become ridiculous. There are over twice the amount of koreans in that area than Bangladeshi people, so for them to ask for over half the area is ridiculous. If there are 20k Bangladeshi people there and 50k koreans, why should they be allowed to have more land which is called little Bangladeshi? That’s ridiculous. A smaller portion, more proportional to how many Bangladeshi people are there, probably would’ve passed.
"Now this didn't mean that half of Koreatown would suddenly become Little Bangladesh. Koreatown would just get a second neighbourhood council to deal with issues like trash pickup and neighbourhood festivals." That's what the reporter said in the video. Was it wrong? Every single Korean seems to be talking about Bangladeshi people taking over the place. Instead, they just want representation on the council. This is why it smacks of xenophobia so hard.
Jann Lee Native American is a rather funny term. By definition a Korean born in America is a Native American. Also, how can Native Americans really be native to the Americas if they came here from another continent such as ASIA?
Exactly, but which tribe? And whose to say that tribe didn’t murder and erase from existence some previous tribe...hmmm we need to find the first prehistoric person to inhabit koreatown and declare that person the ultimate victim. Koreatown owes reparations.
Where are Americans I guess the country is America, Americans are busy bashing trump it’s funny the land is American but Korean and Bangladeshi are claiming it as there’s
This vote was relatively symbolic... One way or another, it perpetuates an us vs. Them mentality. It's tricky. We want all voices heard. However, sometimes one side turns out right and needs to pull the other into line, like in the Civil War. The Confederacy was a subgroup of the US... Should we have let them go their own way? Tough...
I'm Bengali and was fine with people being against the neighborhood council idea. Was unnecessary as well to put Little Bangladesh as part of the name. But I don't like seeing the fake news involved in the issue where it seemed like everyone was thinking Koreatown itself was actually going to be divided. Going to bet most voters didn't even know it was about a new neighborhood council.
"Historically", the culture remains. The city is still called what? Don't stray off the topic that your desire to keep it "Korea town" is some proxy race war. Watch the video before you comment.
I was one of the vendors at the Korean Night Market shown in the beginning of the video and spoke to the organizers of the keep Korea town group. Koreatown is one of the most interesting parts of LA and it would be a sad thing to break it up. There are so many other areas of LA that have not been claimed by any community that could be used for this. I walked up and down and spent a lot of time in this neighborhood and all I saw was Korean joints and businesses. It’s not even a case where there is a lot of Bangladeshi influence and cultural centers here like a Jackson Heights in NY
KTOWN has been getting screwed for 50 years, either stuff like this or school reasoning, or electoral districts to marginalize and dilute Korean Americans. Good to see residents finally standing up for for their rights.
What people don't understand about equality is that it is giving more power to a minority group. Which mean the majority group does have to lose some power so that the minority group can get some representation. This story always happens it similar to how the Irish American felt when black people wanted to be treated equally. At the time the Irish were the lowest group in the white community and when black people wanted to be treated equally. The Irish American felt that they are losing the small amount of power they got at the time and fear that they now have to compete with black people in getting low paying jobs.
1:49 So, the people are not wanting Bangladesh immigrants and descendants of Bangladeshi immigrants to have their own representation? That’s discrimination right there.
I feel like the Koreans are being very territorial. They need to understand splitting up the district is part of being in LA. Mexican have dealt with all types of people moving in on them lol
Sergio Rodriguez yea but that is like saying, hey this is a Mexican neighborhood, let's say 1 person from a different race moves in, then they say they want all the houses down the block except 3 to be my culture, and the 3 houses are still with the Mexican culture. Obviously they should share , but bc it's a samll minority of them a smaller portion should be used, or a different place in town where a huge majority is the minority
Thay need to share it's America give some representation and don't be racist Koreans are really racist though they're like the Japanese that believe that they are of a higher race than people who are darker skin
I lived in LA during the riots-- still do. And I do not remember " large swaths of koreatown being burned to the ground" Sure some buildings burned but not that many.
Why don't they just take a chunk of less developed area in LA in general and give financial aid to make a Bangladesh town there so they can cultivate it and make it how they want and develop it how they want. In Korea town taking such and integral large chunk of that town to turn into Bangladesh town is like taking the heart out of an animal and replacing it with another animals. Can anyone give me s9me usngiht or info that vice forgot to mention so I can understand the situation more
Im shocked they have "councils" for each particular neighborhood & trying to split it, just cuz of the blocks. I'm from NYC, we the 2nd CULTURALLY DIVERSE STATE in U.S(behind Cali) & our neighborhoods don't have these such conflicts. Im from Brooklyn, 5th ave & 7th ave have to very seperate cultural communities(Mexican & Chinese) but never been an conflict. If you from Brooklyn you know what I mean😎.
Rick Jamal that is liberal SJW media and their editing techniques. They ALWAYS shit in Asians. Also they keeping inner city blacks dependent on welfare. In the long run, they NOT doing you any favors.
I'm so confuse on the map explanation. Why is 2/3 refer as half? Like I get that they deserve some recognition and their own space, considering they're been there for three decades and also make up 10-20% of the population of ktown. But why is 2/3 of ktown is getting renamed as "little Bangladesh". It like renting your room to a guest and they claim the whole house. Honestly they should just rename the place but it would erase the historical value. So idek but it not fair and this could easily be avoided with better planning and communication.
I love Korea town Los Angeles. Keep it as it is. Vancouver, Canada Korea town is crap compared to Los Angelesthat is North Road Burnaby. Korean Americans always always stand up what is right. My relatives live in California.Even Edward Koongkang Kim my uncle was born in Pyongyang, North Korea and he is 86 living in San Diego. Heescaped and came to Seoul in the 1950s. Then came to Hartford back east. He studied Biochemistry at UCONN!
seriously.... and for them to try and claim more than half of Koreatown is ridiculous. Korean immigrants have established and built Koreatown for what is it today. Not to mention... faced losses upwards of 250 million + in damages sustained in the Ktown riots and rebuilt it AGAIN. Yall can't and won't take Koreatown... Bangladeshis may have been in Koreatown but yall rode off of the success of Koreans.
With all due respect Bangladeshi’s don’t try to do free grab after Korean Americans built KTOWN. Do you remember 1992 when Koreans defended against lobsters and rebuilt it with their blood sweat and tears!
I doubt South Koreans would allow Kenyas or Somalis to immigrate there enmasse and establish a Kenyantown or Somalitown in Seoul. This to me seems like good old tribalism and ethnocentricism at display here.
There is a Chinatown in Incheon. Seorae Village is famous as a French village, Dongbu Ichon-dong was called Little Tokyo. And there is a world food street in Itaewon. Daelim-dong is full of signs written in Chinese characters. In Ansan city, not Seoul, Many Southeast Asians and Central Asians live in Wongok-dong, Ansan city, and the streets there are called multicultural streets Besides these, there are more foreign town in Korea
Man I'm a Korean dude that's lived in Ktown for 20 years and never really noticed a significant Bengali presence. Feels like this shit came outta nowhere. I remember seeing the flyers asking the community to vote against splitting the neighborhood council but never thought it would blow up like this. Anyway I'm seeing a lot of ignorant and misinformed comments and opinions in this comment section so if anyone has any questions regarding this issue I'll be happy to answer as best I can. Trolls will be ignored. AMA.
I thought it was strange he said this. Not sure what "sympathy" has anything to do with it. Koreatown didn't come about because Koreans arrived in that area and demanded it be called that. They built it up and revitalized it twice. Even the Vice piece says the rebuilding started 25 years ago, so just 5 years after the first Bangladeshi were arriving, Koreans were already working on Koreatown Version 2.0. But to me, this means nothing. Mexicans were here first, by that logic, we were here first, there wouldn't be an American LA. Neighborhoods change. If the Bangladeshi businesses flourish to the point where when people go through that area and think to themselves, "this is like being in Dhaka" then it should be called Little Bangladesh. The neighborhood councils are simply named for their neighborhoods. Look it up. None of them are named for the sole purpose of increasing the prestige or visibility of a minority group. They have names like Echo Park, Sherman Oaks, and Encino. They are very sensibly named for the neighborhood they are in. And this one happens to be in Koreatown. Simple. It's not about population. Little Ethiopia isn't full of 50,000 Ethiopians, and Little Tokyo isn't predominately Japanese. It's about businesses.
ziljin How are they using the same arguments as the alt right? Saying it isn't fair for a minority of Bangladeshis to split up half of KTown is alt right thinking? Koreatown is a community literally built on the backs of Korean Americans during a time when it was seen as a useless piece of land lmao. Maybe you need to research the history of Koreatown before making idiotic statements like that lmao.
Wait what so they are saying that they are discriminating the Korean community...but at the same time they are discriminating the Bangladesh community. Makes sense
It really doesn't make sense for people to get angry about changing Korea Town. The large amount of people who live in the area are Bangladeshi. They have a right to have their voice heard. Why don't they drop Korea Town and call it "Wilshire Center", so they all feel pride in their community as opposed to their ______ town name.
during the LA riots Koreans stood their grounds while the police ran away and rebuilt the town and made it what it is today. I live Sydney and Strathfield is what you would call Korea town. Every shop is Korean. Now you see Indians from that area loitering outside opening one store at a time and now you see an Indian side of town. It’s just not right. We have Vietnamese in Cabramatta, Filipinos in blacktown, Chinese in Burwood, Malaysians in campsie, Indians in Harris park. Italians in five dock, Greeks in Earlwood. It’s just the way it is. Having Bangladesh making a move like that is disrespectful.
As someone who can say born and raised in KTown I don't think it should change. For years there's been a Salvadorian community on Olympic and Vermont who where also there when the riots where happening but we know its KTown and why change it.
Can people just be fair and get the space based on the population size, whoever has more population or influence there gets the bigger land. Case solved
I live about 5 miles west of there and I'm thinking to myself do I want third world country like little Bangladesh or do I want a Vibrant hip ktown. Do I want very conservatively Islamic group taking from mostly intellectually modern Christians? I'm torn here.
why would 1/5 of the population think they deserve over half of all the land in ktown. maybe their council plan would’ve worked had they chosen a smaller area
I don't understand why Asian ethnic neighborhoods are defended so much compared to other ethnic neighborhoods. Watching southern brooklyn go from Italian to Chinese while complaining about Chinatown getting a jail saying it's negative confuses me.
It was never going anywhere, you're being sutch a hypocrit. I bet you'd have a different opinion if the white americans said #KeepWhiteVille when yous arrived. Fuckin basic racist spastics are on the rise.
This why America is racist. People living divided and actually think it okay. If those people become the majority it would be fair for them to change the town name. But because of racism taught at school it is.
This video seems terribly one sided. Little Bangledesh already exists in L.A. You can see the signs for it off the 101 freeway. This is about expanding Little Bangledesh beyond 4 blocks and expanding representation to take over a half of Koreatown. Koreans in Ktown have had a strong sense of pride since the L.A. Riots. Don't try to make it seem like xenophobia.
It sounds like you're confusing xenophobia with racial discrimination. Are you not going to acknowledge that Little Bangledesh already exists or that the new Little Bangledesh wants to take over more than 50% of Ktown? LA Riots were exceptionally difficult for Korean business owners. They were forced to protect their shops on their own. Koreans feel proud of what they established in Ktown and what they had to fight for when no one else was fighting for them. Would it be easy for you to give up over half of what you spent decades working on? This is NOT xenophobia.
Yes, I would equate it with pride, but definitely not xenophobia. They don't have an issue cohesively living together, but to take the namesake is different. If it was Chinatown, I don't think it'd be a big issue. The history isn't the same for Koreatown and Chinatown. But also, minorities move. San Gabriel Valley was predominately Japanese people in the 60s but then Chinese people took it over in the 80s and 90s. I understand what both sides want, but I do not agree with the way information was relayed in the video. 1. Koreans in Koreatown are prideful, not xenophobic, because of the history in Los Angeles and in Ktown. 2.There is already a Little Bangledesh in Los Angeles (that was never mentioned in the video). The desire is about expanding the territory deep into Koreatown. I'm not Korean but my interpretation of the situation is based off of conversations with Koreans.
I love Korea town Los Angeles. Never divide it. My relatives live in California and I used to live in Oakland, California.Although I live in Surrey, B.C., Canada. Forget about Korea plaza in Burnaby. This is the real deal. Korean American girls are hot.It is not a joke! Look at Bring It On with Nicole Bilderback who was adopted and used to live in Dallas, Texas. She was a dancer.Yes I never forget the kindness of Korean Americans helping my dad who is 84. American people love Koreans a lot and have an interest in learning the Korean language. Canadians is a question mark because they have no interest in learning Korean.It is mostly Asians here who are Chinese, Filipinos, and Indian who eat Korean food. Some white Canadians like Korean food but, it is not like the USA where Americans eat Korean food. Korean food is very tasty. Unlike Chinese and Japanese food.
Splitting up the council is a good idea but why did the Bangladeshi community try for over 50% when they only make up 20% of the population. Go for 30% at most and they should have won. Both sides were being unreasonable
If you want little Korea or little B'desh why did you leave your country in the first place?? All respect for minority rights but you can't just make part of a sovereign Country and name it after another country.
SAGAR MASKE Why is there a little Italy or Greek areas or Spanish town or Irish neighbourhoods etc immigrants move to other places and bring part of their culture with them its the American way.
Most ethnic groups were treated harshly whenever they came to the United States. Before it was german immigrants, then irish and italians, asians, latinos, etc. And every time a large group of ethnic minorities immigrated, they created a “little italy” or “koreatown” to feel safe in a country that was mostly xenophobic and hurtful to the ethnic minority at the time. Chances are, your family was an ethnic minority at some point in the US. If not, you’re from like England, where colonists literally just took land from Native Americans (making a sovereign country out of multiple native american tribes and nations). If you’re native american, sorry man...
America had a role to play in starting the Korean War with their great game against the Soviet Union. Bangladeshis can't say the same and point fingers at the US, should have went to the UK.
An entire video on the Koreans resisting this bullshit attempt, but only a few seconds devoted to the cause of the problem. And the cause of this entire problem? A Bangladesh Muslim woman called "Jarin Islam" th-cam.com/video/MTmTvRTyvnM/w-d-xo.html ! - for some reason her name is only shown for one second. She and her husband filed the petition to change the name to Bangladesh town. Of course she has to weir the Islamic headscarf (a sexist attribute that only women wear), but complaints that the name Koreatown is discriminatory.
No one cares what u want , I'm muslim european and I always support muslims businesses, I don't agree in taking over from other cultures or nationalities, everyone has their own success, world needs Islam tawheed oneness of Allah, sunnah of Muhamed and understanding of sahaba
The woman at 1:56, isn’t it discrimination that you don’t want to let another race in into your race’s personal space? I personally don’t care, but you can’t use the discrimination card using a discriminating “act” (whether intended or not, in which I don’t believe she is purposely)
That ending man the Koreans just lost my support ... also just because someone starts something doesn't mean you gotta continue it just some food for thought...also the hardship your parents went through ..the Bangladeshi are feeling now
This 20,000 Bangladesh estimate is complete fiction. Look at the census data. And they have arguably OVER representation on the present council, with 3 members out of the 25. According to official data, there are 4400 Bangladeshi in the entire LA area, not just in this neighborhood council district. They are heavily outnumbered by Koreans and Latinos, even white people in this area.
Vice, you've gotta do better than this. Spend some time independently verifying facts and figures. It's one thing for Ktown and Bangladeshi reps to give out misleading and false info, but you guys call yourself Vice NEWS, do some actual journalism. This is really lazy reporting.
holy shit: watched the whole thing. This is a hit piece. And I say that as a twinkie who thinks splitting the council up to get more funding and allowing council members to address needs with more specificity has merit. Just that a group who represents a tiny fraction of the population wanting to name it after themselves being the issue. (look back at the history, Bangladesh leaders wanted to actually rename Little Koreatown to Little Bangladesh in 2009 when they realized Ktown was never made an official city designated area). Jarin, executive vice president of the WCKNC, kept this petition a secret, never revealing it was in motion until she was legally obligated to just a couple of months before the vote.
VICE have been biased for years and modern economics for the press doesn't incentivise journalistic rigor. This isn't shocking anymore, no one should be watching any "news" or "documentary" without a grain of salt regardless of which side of the political spectrum you're on.
2015 estimates from the Pew Research Institute has it at 6000 for the entire Los Angeles area. 2017 Los Angeles Economic Development Corporation estimates has the Bangladesh as being .3% of the Asian population in Los Angeles County, so roughly 4400.
Vice is a garbage 'news' company pushing ideologies and meddling in elections. This is coming from a 'liberal'. Never trust any of their reporters or programs.
Yeah, I stopped watching a long time ago. They seem to find the biggest trolls to be their on air talent, too.
ChaunceyDos Can you give me real source of your claim in 2018? or you just shitting?
The 20,000 Bangladeshi people take 70% of the K-Town area from 100,000 Korean people who live in an area for nearly 4 decades.
It's soooooooooooooo make sense.
Seriously VICE, I live in KoreaTowl Los Angeles, and I normally hugely respect VICE news, but frankly you are way off on this story. there are but a few Bangladeshi stores in the entire area, and tons of Korean stores / population. don't want to be politically incorrect, but is this a case of VICE trying to create a story of a forgotten group that simply don't exist in the capacity VICE represent? (at least not in KoreaTown Los Angeles) for the record Im originally from Denmark and there are maybe 100 of us in this area, maybe VICE could make a story about why the area is not called "Little Danmark" ?
Bangladeshi could do what Koreans did in past at different area. Before Koreans, Koreatown was basically another shitty part of LA. It started to develope when Koreans opened up businesses and started to cultivate the area. They survived riots and looting and rebuilt the place. Bangladeshi's want representation for them? They already have Little Bangladesh. If they want to expand it then do it there and build it, don't take shit from a place where it was built by Korean-American blood, sweat and tears.
Jay Caspian Kang is a moron.
The two things not really covered to my satisafaction were how much of a minority those from Bangladesh were in the area in proportional terms, and if they were truly a minority then why were they attempting to gain the larger half of the split territory in the first place?
Tyler from the description box it said out of roughly 100k ppl, 20k were bangladeshi. In terms of how spread out they are, no idea.
+Reichi Kirisaki Thank you for pointing that out.
Reichi Kirisaki 20k were Bangladeshi, but they have no presence. 6-8 businesses turned into 1000’s makes no sense all of a sudden. They were the ones who were power hungry in attempting to take over most of the territory lol.
CB W they still would receive over half of the area to govern, and make the korean representation kind of fade away in that area
Because of Islamic privilege.
Fvck Mahomet & Islam...
If anyone is curious on how it ended
“KOREATOWN, LOS ANGELES - Preliminary results of the vote on whether Koreatown would be divided to include Bangladesh Town overwhelmingly favored the status quo Wednesday.
Among the 19,126 votes counted, 18,884 of them elected against the official recognition of a Bangladesh Town.”
I think the issue here is not that they don't want Bangladesh to have representation. However looking at the plan for the town is that it will be 60/40. It's like the Bangladesh is imposing the 60%. Korea Town is Korea Town its coming off as theft almost.
Sort of how those against ILLEGAL immigration are upset because they see ILLEGALS working jobs earning income but also collecting welfare for their kids etc. that qualify knowing that they earned only $3 too much this month so they get their food stamps cut? But they get called racists and xenophobes. There is a reason more blacks and legal immigrants are switching to team Trump and it's because hey are seeing it like it is. People want them to give up things and they feel stolen and cheated and unrepresented. America has some splainin to do and some hypocrisy to work out.
It's also about gerry mandering and redistricting. Vice News didn't do a very good job of investigating.
The Korean community raised awareness about the proposition within their community, communicated, organized, voted and they won, this is democracy. Don't be salty and cry Bangladeshis, go out and vote next time..respect the process!
Not a single Bangladeshi person in the video said they were crying or salty or upset with the result. It was entirely about the Korean perspective on the issue other then that women describing the store that's been around for awhile.
Jerry Parker u do realize they can't, right. Most of them would be immigrants. It's like saying, "illegal aliens go vote for the Democratic party". It's not possible, they don't have a citizenship, which in turn they just have to hope.
Tell that to the Democrats :)
Stove Games Games you know your status did not qualify or disqualify you from voting in the neighborhood election.
Because you're an immigrant doesn't make you illegal, nor that they don't have citizenship.
I live in l.a and I am not saying there shouldnt be a Bangladesh town, but I don't think taking half of Korea Town is the solution. I think it would be best to wait a little longer, a decade longer. I know that may seem very long but when u think about it, we self diverse ourselves and at a certain point, there will be 1 particular place in l.a that will densely be populates with Bangladesh people like K-town or China Town and ect. It's like if koreans lived in China Town and they decided to give half of China Town to make it K-town.
that would start a war in mainland. that's why this situation is so outrageous. there is history within the area. i would sue if they got more than 70 PERCENT of the main ktown area.
S M I agree,there could have been various other solution but they were being very impatient with high demends, and sadly it's going to probably sorta be the Trump effect. High demands in very little time won't feel outrageous anymore if they keep doing it then they might get something like 51% of K-Town and a large concil group which can out vote K-Towns council very easily.
Stove Games Games well said.
If Bangladeshi businesses become the majority in that area, I don't care if it's renamed next year. The world is constantly changing, LA is constantly changing. It's okay. But maybe at least make it happen organically, by making your businesses the most recognizable and dominant feature of an area, not by trying to sneak a vote in. th-cam.com/video/-DNEV_EPRPY/w-d-xo.html
The Koreans helped the people from bangladesh to settle down within Koreatown and now they are trying to take over😂
Having a small Bangladeshi minority group take a larger territory from the Korean majority is part of story, but Koreans want to keep what little representation they have in their area of majority. This is not racist, it’s about representation. Anyone calling this racist or bending it towards “white right” is insidious. It’s democracy actually. Let them voice themselves. They aren’t killing, raping, enslaving...it’s not like they said “Bangladeshis are rapists” and btw the “Koreans” here are actually Americans.
Lol, wait, if they’re a minority within k-town, why are they asking for over 50% of ktown to be appropriated to the Bangladeshi community? I feel like if they asked for a portion that better reflected their population within the district, most people wouldn’t care too much. But asking for that much just feels like a deliberate power grab, can’t blame the Koreans for not wanting to give up a large portion of their district to a group that seems to have decided that working with the Koreans alongside the Latinos isn’t worth it anymore.
Bcuz we r dominant
I would love to hear the opinion of the native americans on this matter
That was over a hundred years ago, can you move on thanks.
Thanks for mentioning us... And yeah we are still here Lakota nation's chumash. Land is long gone but spiritually we will always be connected to this city. 500 yes later and still standing
The 100% native americans dont exist anymore
Coffee AtMidnight I mean, sure, but it was taken. There was no politeness, it was taken like many other civilizations. Also i would say it rude to consider the Gabrielino, Chumash, and Tataviam all the same as the other 549 federally recognized tribes. If you want to know why they lost and settlers won, just keep reading the previous sentence until you realize, the feudalism of old, is a gigantic failure compared to what now exists over those tribes.
Laughable. 1st native indian tribe populations could never lived on the majority of North America land. 2nd What land rights would they had for nomads? Darn you are slow
20K Bangladesh? I don't think so. They need to check the census data again. More like 6K at most.
You're right. Not even close. Vice didn't fact check anything. th-cam.com/video/-DNEV_EPRPY/w-d-xo.html
Well they voted,the proposition was defeated. Democracy did it's job here. Better luck next time i suppose.
Not my problem anyway.
Proud Portugalball *Spain intervenes
Even if the bangladesh won democracy still works. People vote and theres a result, its not like if the result its not what you want democracy dont works
Skisword D Well that *was* my point. The voting worked anyways.
Proud Portugalball Spoken like a true ostrich with their head in the dirt.
Basillio11 Alright then smartass,please indulge me with your "intelligence" on the problem that is at hand.
Everyone is saying mix in but I quiet split on this as I'm quite right wing but at the same time Korean. I mean I went to KoreaTown and its not like we hate america or some other stuff. We love America but when the 1960s LA riots were going on and the police went to go protect the white suburbs and left the Koreans to defend for themselves. We, Koreans came together and used our right of the 2nd Amendment to protect ourselves. 60% of Korea Town was burnt and like the American Dream we brought it up and now you want to split our hard work? The work our fathers and mothers brought up? In the comments you guys are calling us racist, territorial, unamerican and we are segregationist? I saw from my time many south-east asians, whites, hispanics and blacks eat at Korean restaurant. When has any Korean store refused service? We are Americans we follow the laws we learn the language and everything else.
@DMP Koreans are not, Chinese and Japanese are
"We wouldn't go into your town and change it" I'm pretty sure that's exactly what they did. So sad to hear a minority being a bit racist, I guess we forget that all nationalities and ethnicities are racist.
Fluke~ the alt right calling them model minorities must have imparted some racism on them
ziljin Asian's have traditionally throughout history have been quite xenophobic, religious persecutors, and had a superiority complex towards the rest of the world, China epsecially. Anyone that is surprised by these facts just need to open up a history book on how China, Japan, etc. blocked outside trade for 100's of years at a time, were constantly at war (both civil wars and national ones) obviously the case now isn't nearly as severe, but they still exist in minor form, as shown in this video
The word that you're looking for is "prejudiced" not racist.
Bangladeshi immigrants turned England into the acid attack capital of the world.
Logan Boyette pfft Asians still seem to hate each other. At least Europeans put their hate for each other down after WW2
Since they're admittedly the ethnic minority the only thing that doesn't make sense here is why their council was going to encompass more than half of Koreatown. Seems like making a proposal for a smaller area where the Bangladeshies were the most concentrated would make more sense.
Sometimes you have to like your own comment to get the ball rolling.
speaks truth.
The thirst is real in this one, like if you agree, and like if you don't agree.
so true. I do that all the time. I like all my own comments including this one XD
Fvcken lame & attention-seeking but honest & possibly true
dude I'm subscribed to you hell yeah
We didn't move into your town and set up little korea" - Ummm, yes you did. Ya'll all migrated to that area lol.
youtubeyoutubeyoutube No they didn't, it just sorta happend. Like silicon valley, it's just happened by coincidence that most wealthy business and people started to live there. And later it just became what it is now, at some point people just brought it up, and was like, "we need this space to be called something else, like TechValley
Korea Town is nothing like Silicon Valley. I used to live in Palo Alto, I would know first hand. Inflated housing market, everyone coming here to create start-ups and fail at a rapid pace and tech millionaires on every block. It's a different world in Silicon Valley. Korea Town is just some place to get food Korean food and groceries. Sure, there's culture, but the Indians are coming. They signed up and got it. Nothing can be done.
lol. People are just so silly, but you, I like you. You actually think of what these people are saying and it just makes zero sense. Even the journalist interviewer guy called them xenophobic and not wanting others to come here, basically segregating others.
youtubeyoutubeyoutube but that isn't the point of their petetion, they just didn't want the government or whomever is in charge of making these changes to just take a certain amount of culture and move it around like an object they can play around with. They k I and understand about the Bangladesh's peoples concerns but they don't want something that has been enticed into land and paper to be removed and replace it with something else. There is no real clash with ethier culture but they just don't want something that has been there for many many years to be gone. Just ask the Native Americans, thier land stripped away from the newcomers of Europe. I honestly think a better solution would be to wait. Waiting long enough for a place where there is more of them in one place where it would be more logical to separate K-town
youtubeyoutubeyoutube lol dumbass
the problem that most Koreans have isn't that bangladeshis want representation, it's that the bangladeshis are such a small percentage of the population would control such a large portion of koreatown
Ur a kpop lover so you shouldn’t have an opinion
Let's be real here. It has to do with racism. That's the only reason why they aren't comfortable with it.
U are so racist
Why can’t Bangladeshi get their own representation? This is just racism. Koreans moved into some random place and created Korea town.
Phlegethon 100 year leases in some cities.
The irony of all this is that as the Bangladeshis and Koreans are talking about representation, they forget that Hispanics make up a majority of the neighborhood (though Koreans outnumber any individual Hispanic ethnicity)
What bugged me was when the guy said “I think the majority should be represented” because that’s exactly what we Koreans have been combatting. Obviously the majority has to be represented, but so do minorities. We are a minority, why oppose supporting others?
People who have been discriminated learn to discriminate.
Just bc u learn it does not mean u have to implement it in to ur life. Dont make excuses for stupidity.
More like poetic justice
Jose Martinez Shifting blame I see. Now tell the truth. Mostly all races look after their own in some type of way. Yet were made to believe white people only do it, and are the worst of it. Far from true. But you knew that, right?
having lived in LA....many Koreans are racist af
Latinos/Hispanics should be one to talk...GTFO
They should have changed the name to "Little Asia". This way the name would represent them all.
Ideologically it would, but then doesn’t that beg the question of whether then that would perpetuate the idea that all Asians are the same?
geh. It perpetrates an idea that all Asians are from Asia.
As long as you’re fine calling Little Italy as Little Europe, then fine. I’m sure the Irish would appreciate being called as coming from the same place as Italians.
geh. Am.. Reality check. Both Italians and Irish currently live in Europe and don't have a problem with the name of the continent, do they? It's the same thing, but on a smaller scale.
No, there’s a little Tokyo, Chinatown, and Koreatown in different regions. If you wanted to include all things Asian under one name it would take up a substantial amount of Los Angeles and everyone would complain.
Living in Koreatown as a Korean, I am honestly not impressed at the Koreatown council. What has that council brought to us that aren't the 1% ? How many new public parks are built in Koreatown, the answer is none . I honestly think there is 1 public park in the neighborhood of Koreatown. A great place to raise a family... How many high rise multi million dollar high rises are built, seems like one opens it's door everyday. It seems to be that the current council only cares about money and does not care about providing for the community.
Koreans built this community to what it is today, even after it was completed destroyed by the riots with blood, sweat and tears! No one is going to take that away ever!
And this is why assimilation is important.
The Koreans are making literally the exact same arguments Trump an the alt right make.
KWolfOkami true we Koreans are very conservative and Japanese are also conservatives but liberal in their free time.
KWolfOkami thought it was KAG now. Keep America Great
Lol
kenim I'm SEA and we are pretty conservative too. The media thinks just because we're minorities we fall into the liberal group. I'm a centrist so I go with what makes sense. My father voted Republican for over 20 years. I don't agree with him all the time but it's America baby! Also Asians love the military. SEA believe being a military man/woman is a very Noble position. My father served and many served a long Americans and my brother and I both served. I plan on keeping the tradition. Asian American baby!!!!
Dot Com Ok, what's your point? Hillary lost, deal with it libtard.
I agree that the Koreans chose to feature didn't make very good arguments. It was pure cringe.
I'd rather have Korea as a neighbor than Bangladesh, for sure.
John Smith says the guy name John smith. The Koreans are wrong
John Smith pretty sure that eliminating Bangladeshi s isn't in the table. Great comment though.
I'd rather have a "Juan Blanco" neighbour than a " James Smith"!
Wait what!?
John Smith Damn right!
Yes I agree Bangladeshis should have a place of their own. But don't put your own name on someone's elses work. It took decades for Korea Town to become as it is now. You cant just see finish work and put your own name on it. Power to you for having your own place. Just dont take someone elses.
You know how sound
In all seriousness, when it comes down to it, would you rather have all you can eat kbbq or all you can eat whatever Bangladesh food is. There ya go, I'm not even Korean but keep ktown as ktown, there's already little Bangladesh, I can see why they want some representation but look at the area they want to control, that's a lot to ask for
CroutonsRawk WORD!
The most reasonable comment i have seen so far.
Man really said “whatever Bangladesh food is”
To get that much, more than half, of the territory for a minority group? How much of a minority are they really?
There should not be a "Korea" town in America. These people are separating themselves from Americans of all races.
The Japanese in LA did it to the Koreans, and now the Koreans are doing it to the Bangladeshi. The Bangladeshi will eventually win, its only a matter of time.
To the people in the comments. As a member of the koreatown community, someone who’s grown up eating the food, someone who’s grown up being korean. I understand what you’re saying. A lot of us don’t think that they don’t deserve their own community, but how much they were asking, and where they were asking of it from, is where it began to become ridiculous. There are over twice the amount of koreans in that area than Bangladeshi people, so for them to ask for over half the area is ridiculous. If there are 20k Bangladeshi people there and 50k koreans, why should they be allowed to have more land which is called little Bangladeshi? That’s ridiculous. A smaller portion, more proportional to how many Bangladeshi people are there, probably would’ve passed.
"Now this didn't mean that half of Koreatown would suddenly become Little Bangladesh. Koreatown would just get a second neighbourhood council to deal with issues like trash pickup and neighbourhood festivals."
That's what the reporter said in the video. Was it wrong? Every single Korean seems to be talking about Bangladeshi people taking over the place. Instead, they just want representation on the council.
This is why it smacks of xenophobia so hard.
This is not Korea our Bangladesh town.
This is the land of native Americans!
Jann Lee was
Jann Lee Native American is a rather funny term. By definition a Korean born in America is a Native American. Also, how can Native Americans really be native to the Americas if they came here from another continent such as ASIA?
actually the land belonged to the dinosaurs long ago so any mentions of natives is invalid
Exactly, but which tribe? And whose to say that tribe didn’t murder and erase from existence some previous tribe...hmmm we need to find the first prehistoric person to inhabit koreatown and declare that person the ultimate victim. Koreatown owes reparations.
Stfu
Do you guys have any updates on what happened with this issue?
The Korean American community is very exclusive
Where are Americans I guess the country is America, Americans are busy bashing trump it’s funny the land is American but Korean and Bangladeshi are claiming it as there’s
Nitin Goswami thats how liberals work. Lol
+Nitin Goswami:
Are you saying? Americans are only White. That's kind of Racist mind set you have.
This vote was relatively symbolic... One way or another, it perpetuates an us vs. Them mentality.
It's tricky. We want all voices heard. However, sometimes one side turns out right and needs to pull the other into line, like in the Civil War.
The Confederacy was a subgroup of the US... Should we have let them go their own way?
Tough...
I'm Bengali and was fine with people being against the neighborhood council idea. Was unnecessary as well to put Little Bangladesh as part of the name. But I don't like seeing the fake news involved in the issue where it seemed like everyone was thinking Koreatown itself was actually going to be divided. Going to bet most voters didn't even know it was about a new neighborhood council.
why can't it just be a town?
Historical roots? This all used to be Mexico, yet no one is calling it little Mexico. Your argument is weak and null.
"Historically", the culture remains. The city is still called what? Don't stray off the topic that your desire to keep it "Korea town" is some proxy race war. Watch the video before you comment.
No, I showed your argument for "historical roots" is baseless.
Yes because I know how to debate and not revert to ad hominem fallacies.
I expose how our schools need to do a better job.
zero
It is just a town. Koreatown is a marketing gimmick within LA.
I was one of the vendors at the Korean Night Market shown in the beginning of the video and spoke to the organizers of the keep Korea town group. Koreatown is one of the most interesting parts of LA and it would be a sad thing to break it up. There are so many other areas of LA that have not been claimed by any community that could be used for this. I walked up and down and spent a lot of time in this neighborhood and all I saw was Korean joints and businesses. It’s not even a case where there is a lot of Bangladeshi influence and cultural centers here like a Jackson Heights in NY
KTOWN has been getting screwed for 50 years, either stuff like this or school reasoning, or electoral districts to marginalize and dilute Korean Americans. Good to see residents finally standing up for for their rights.
Gabriel 1 thank you!
What people don't understand about equality is that it is giving more power to a minority group. Which mean the majority group does have to lose some power so that the minority group can get some representation. This story always happens it similar to how the Irish American felt when black people wanted to be treated equally. At the time the Irish were the lowest group in the white community and when black people wanted to be treated equally. The Irish American felt that they are losing the small amount of power they got at the time and fear that they now have to compete with black people in getting low paying jobs.
Bengali invading Korean Town. They are also invading Western Myanmar. They call themsleves Rohingyas.
Muslims once again demanding special spaces for themselves.
Someone actually compared this to the Israel Palestine conflict. Wow
1:49 So, the people are not wanting Bangladesh immigrants and descendants of Bangladeshi immigrants to have their own representation? That’s discrimination right there.
I feel like the Koreans are being very territorial. They need to understand splitting up the district is part of being in LA. Mexican have dealt with all types of people moving in on them lol
Sergio Rodriguez yea but that is like saying, hey this is a Mexican neighborhood, let's say 1 person from a different race moves in, then they say they want all the houses down the block except 3 to be my culture, and the 3 houses are still with the Mexican culture.
Obviously they should share , but bc it's a samll minority of them a smaller portion should be used, or a different place in town where a huge majority is the minority
Thay need to share it's America give some representation and don't be racist Koreans are really racist though they're like the Japanese that believe that they are of a higher race than people who are darker skin
Blacks too
RCP Pilot i guess we all get our turn lol
well what would you expect? You don't get territory without resistance. Plus Korean history is literally being territorial.
Roof-Top Korean's represent!
operator af
IT'S OVER ANAKIN, I HAVE THE HIGH GROUND
I lived in LA during the riots-- still do. And I do not remember " large swaths of koreatown being burned to the ground" Sure some buildings burned but not that many.
Thank you for pushing the argument on xenophobia. Just because you're a POC doesn't mean you can't hold some prejudice.
As a Korean i can tell you, our genitals look like two jelly beans hanging under a tootsie roll so you can understand why we need to be territorial.
Why don't they just take a chunk of less developed area in LA in general and give financial aid to make a Bangladesh town there so they can cultivate it and make it how they want and develop it how they want. In Korea town taking such and integral large chunk of that town to turn into Bangladesh town is like taking the heart out of an animal and replacing it with another animals. Can anyone give me s9me usngiht or info that vice forgot to mention so I can understand the situation more
And where are these less developed areas in LA?
Im shocked they have "councils" for each particular neighborhood & trying to split it, just cuz of the blocks.
I'm from NYC, we the 2nd CULTURALLY DIVERSE STATE in U.S(behind Cali) & our neighborhoods don't have these such conflicts.
Im from Brooklyn, 5th ave & 7th ave have to very seperate cultural communities(Mexican & Chinese) but never been an conflict. If you from Brooklyn you know what I mean😎.
Bring the native americans to the table
The Korean Community has the most hypocritical arguments ever heard!!!
Rick Jamal that is liberal SJW media and their editing techniques. They ALWAYS shit in Asians. Also they keeping inner city blacks dependent on welfare. In the long run, they NOT doing you any favors.
What's about Bengali community that has only 20,000 but takes 70% of K-town? Meanwhile Korean in K-Town around 100,000.
Koreans in general are hypocrites
Argue with me please.
SJW getto moron...lol.
I'm so confuse on the map explanation. Why is 2/3 refer as half? Like I get that they deserve some recognition and their own space, considering they're been there for three decades and also make up 10-20% of the population of ktown. But why is 2/3 of ktown is getting renamed as "little Bangladesh". It like renting your room to a guest and they claim the whole house. Honestly they should just rename the place but it would erase the historical value. So idek but it not fair and this could easily be avoided with better planning and communication.
keep korea town my dude
DIVERSITY IS NOT A STRENGTH
"They started this." So if someone goes stealing, you will do the same? Seriously, that is their argument? You lost my vote just right there.
What happened at the end though, did they win?
Koreans being xenophobic? Boy, am I shocked.
Xenophobia exists everywhere in Asia.
I love Korea town Los Angeles. Keep it as it is. Vancouver, Canada Korea town is crap compared to Los Angelesthat is North Road Burnaby. Korean Americans always always stand up what is right. My relatives live in California.Even Edward Koongkang Kim my uncle was born in Pyongyang, North Korea and he is 86 living in San Diego. Heescaped and came to Seoul in the 1950s. Then came to Hartford back east. He studied Biochemistry at UCONN!
Wth I live in ktown and I’ve never seen or met any Bengali people. It’s either mostly Hispanic or Korean.
seriously.... and for them to try and claim more than half of Koreatown is ridiculous. Korean immigrants have established and built Koreatown for what is it today. Not to mention... faced losses upwards of 250 million + in damages sustained in the Ktown riots and rebuilt it AGAIN. Yall can't and won't take Koreatown... Bangladeshis may have been in Koreatown but yall rode off of the success of Koreans.
@@natenate88 get off our domepiece damn you white saviour
With all due respect Bangladeshi’s don’t try to do free grab after Korean Americans built KTOWN. Do you remember 1992 when Koreans defended against lobsters and rebuilt it with their blood sweat and tears!
I doubt South Koreans would allow Kenyas or Somalis to immigrate there enmasse and establish a Kenyantown or Somalitown in Seoul.
This to me seems like good old tribalism and ethnocentricism at display here.
There is a Chinatown in Incheon.
Seorae Village is famous as a French village, Dongbu Ichon-dong was called Little Tokyo. And there is a world food street in Itaewon.
Daelim-dong is full of signs written in Chinese characters.
In Ansan city, not Seoul, Many Southeast Asians and Central Asians live in Wongok-dong, Ansan city, and the streets there are called multicultural streets
Besides these, there are more foreign town in Korea
Im still confused what do they want korea town and bangladesh?
Soon there will ba a north korea town vote...
+trytrustinmejc:
That made my day! You got a vote from me.
Man I'm a Korean dude that's lived in Ktown for 20 years and never really noticed a significant Bengali presence. Feels like this shit came outta nowhere. I remember seeing the flyers asking the community to vote against splitting the neighborhood council but never thought it would blow up like this.
Anyway I'm seeing a lot of ignorant and misinformed comments and opinions in this comment section so if anyone has any questions regarding this issue I'll be happy to answer as best I can. Trolls will be ignored. AMA.
"While I'm sypathetic to the need for a KoreaTown...kinda seem like some of your arguments border on xenophobic" 😂
Vibe Create yea they literally use the same arguments of the alt right and Republicans. Wonder if they voted for Trump?
ziljin everybody looks out for their own. It’s only controversial when whites do it
Yep
I thought it was strange he said this. Not sure what "sympathy" has anything to do with it. Koreatown didn't come about because Koreans arrived in that area and demanded it be called that. They built it up and revitalized it twice. Even the Vice piece says the rebuilding started 25 years ago, so just 5 years after the first Bangladeshi were arriving, Koreans were already working on Koreatown Version 2.0. But to me, this means nothing. Mexicans were here first, by that logic, we were here first, there wouldn't be an American LA. Neighborhoods change. If the Bangladeshi businesses flourish to the point where when people go through that area and think to themselves, "this is like being in Dhaka" then it should be called Little Bangladesh. The neighborhood councils are simply named for their neighborhoods. Look it up. None of them are named for the sole purpose of increasing the prestige or visibility of a minority group. They have names like Echo Park, Sherman Oaks, and Encino. They are very sensibly named for the neighborhood they are in. And this one happens to be in Koreatown. Simple. It's not about population. Little Ethiopia isn't full of 50,000 Ethiopians, and Little Tokyo isn't predominately Japanese. It's about businesses.
ziljin How are they using the same arguments as the alt right? Saying it isn't fair for a minority of Bangladeshis to split up half of KTown is alt right thinking? Koreatown is a community literally built on the backs of Korean Americans during a time when it was seen as a useless piece of land lmao. Maybe you need to research the history of Koreatown before making idiotic statements like that lmao.
Wait what so they are saying that they are discriminating the Korean community...but at the same time they are discriminating the Bangladesh community. Makes sense
Koreatown is beautiful.
king of horn african. Thank you.
Keep koreatown beautiful, make koreatown great again
China Town number 1!
It really doesn't make sense for people to get angry about changing Korea Town. The large amount of people who live in the area are Bangladeshi. They have a right to have their voice heard. Why don't they drop Korea Town and call it "Wilshire Center", so they all feel pride in their community as opposed to their ______ town name.
Better Koreans than Bangladeshi
during the LA riots Koreans stood their grounds while the police ran away and rebuilt the town and made it what it is today. I live Sydney and Strathfield is what you would call Korea town. Every shop is Korean. Now you see Indians from that area loitering outside opening one store at a time and now you see an Indian side of town. It’s just not right. We have Vietnamese in Cabramatta, Filipinos in blacktown, Chinese in Burwood, Malaysians in campsie, Indians in Harris park. Italians in five dock, Greeks in Earlwood. It’s just the way it is. Having Bangladesh making a move like that is disrespectful.
As someone who can say born and raised in KTown I don't think it should change. For years there's been a Salvadorian community on Olympic and Vermont who where also there when the riots where happening but we know its KTown and why change it.
Can people just be fair and get the space based on the population size, whoever has more population or influence there gets the bigger land. Case solved
I live about 5 miles west of there and I'm thinking to myself do I want third world country like little Bangladesh or do I want a Vibrant hip ktown. Do I want very conservatively Islamic group taking from mostly intellectually modern Christians? I'm torn here.
why would 1/5 of the population think they deserve over half of all the land in ktown. maybe their council plan would’ve worked had they chosen a smaller area
Korean & Indian food in the same area. Why are they complaining? That's awesome for us.
Because not everything is about food.
India & Bangladesh are not the same
people like this who make comments like this are always hideous losers. don't question the method but it's true.
Actually for Koreans food is everything.
Joker Bangladeshis were Indians before the split.
I don't understand why Asian ethnic neighborhoods are defended so much compared to other ethnic neighborhoods. Watching southern brooklyn go from Italian to Chinese while complaining about Chinatown getting a jail saying it's negative confuses me.
Wants the bangladeshis to understand their place, LMAO
Share that town or else we'll take that town for ourselves and rename it "Extraterrestrial Town"
#KeepKoreatown
we been doing that since the riots
It was never going anywhere, you're being sutch a hypocrit.
I bet you'd have a different opinion if the white americans said #KeepWhiteVille when yous arrived.
Fuckin basic racist spastics are on the rise.
Don't you like... diversity? Are you xenophobic?
#keepkoreatown and #maga same play different cast of actors.
Same actors as well, Koreans definitely voted for that man.
This why America is racist. People living divided and actually think it okay. If those people become the majority it would be fair for them to change the town name. But because of racism taught at school it is.
The guy with the hat sounds very xenophobic :p
If I was Korean I'd move back to Korea. Korea is dope.
This video seems terribly one sided. Little Bangledesh already exists in L.A. You can see the signs for it off the 101 freeway. This is about expanding Little Bangledesh beyond 4 blocks and expanding representation to take over a half of Koreatown. Koreans in Ktown have had a strong sense of pride since the L.A. Riots. Don't try to make it seem like xenophobia.
It sounds like you're confusing xenophobia with racial discrimination. Are you not going to acknowledge that Little Bangledesh already exists or that the new Little Bangledesh wants to take over more than 50% of Ktown? LA Riots were exceptionally difficult for Korean business owners. They were forced to protect their shops on their own. Koreans feel proud of what they established in Ktown and what they had to fight for when no one else was fighting for them. Would it be easy for you to give up over half of what you spent decades working on? This is NOT xenophobia.
Yes, I would equate it with pride, but definitely not xenophobia. They don't have an issue cohesively living together, but to take the namesake is different. If it was Chinatown, I don't think it'd be a big issue. The history isn't the same for Koreatown and Chinatown. But also, minorities move. San Gabriel Valley was predominately Japanese people in the 60s but then Chinese people took it over in the 80s and 90s.
I understand what both sides want, but I do not agree with the way information was relayed in the video.
1. Koreans in Koreatown are prideful, not xenophobic, because of the history in Los Angeles and in Ktown.
2.There is already a Little Bangledesh in Los Angeles (that was never mentioned in the video). The desire is about expanding the territory deep into Koreatown.
I'm not Korean but my interpretation of the situation is based off of conversations with Koreans.
I love Korea town Los Angeles. Never divide it. My relatives live in California and I used to live in Oakland, California.Although I live in Surrey, B.C., Canada. Forget about Korea plaza in Burnaby. This is the real deal. Korean American girls are hot.It is not a joke! Look at Bring It On with Nicole Bilderback who was adopted and used to live in Dallas, Texas. She was a dancer.Yes I never forget the kindness of Korean Americans helping my dad who is 84. American people love Koreans a lot and have an interest in learning the Korean language. Canadians is a question mark because they have no interest in learning Korean.It is mostly Asians here who are Chinese, Filipinos, and Indian who eat Korean food. Some white Canadians like Korean food but, it is not like the USA where Americans eat Korean food. Korean food is very tasty. Unlike Chinese and Japanese food.
I’m from LA ...... it’s Koreatown..... nothing else!
Splitting up the council is a good idea but why did the Bangladeshi community try for over 50% when they only make up 20% of the population. Go for 30% at most and they should have won. Both sides were being unreasonable
If you want little Korea or little B'desh why did you leave your country in the first place??
All respect for minority rights but you can't just make part of a sovereign Country and name it after another country.
SAGAR MASKE Why is there a little Italy or Greek areas or Spanish town or Irish neighbourhoods etc immigrants move to other places and bring part of their culture with them its the American way.
Most ethnic groups were treated harshly whenever they came to the United States. Before it was german immigrants, then irish and italians, asians, latinos, etc. And every time a large group of ethnic minorities immigrated, they created a “little italy” or “koreatown” to feel safe in a country that was mostly xenophobic and hurtful to the ethnic minority at the time.
Chances are, your family was an ethnic minority at some point in the US. If not, you’re from like England, where colonists literally just took land from Native Americans (making a sovereign country out of multiple native american tribes and nations). If you’re native american, sorry man...
Korean War and the Partition of India/Indo-Pakistan War
America had a role to play in starting the Korean War with their great game against the Soviet Union. Bangladeshis can't say the same and point fingers at the US, should have went to the UK.
Mimi Locke Literally only heard Little Italy nothing else
An entire video on the Koreans resisting this bullshit attempt, but only a few seconds devoted to the cause of the problem. And the cause of this entire problem? A Bangladesh Muslim woman called "Jarin Islam" th-cam.com/video/MTmTvRTyvnM/w-d-xo.html ! - for some reason her name is only shown for one second. She and her husband filed the petition to change the name to Bangladesh town. Of course she has to weir the Islamic headscarf (a sexist attribute that only women wear), but complaints that the name Koreatown is discriminatory.
I live in Korea town. Happen to live in the now "Bangladesh town" don't want them here as much as the Koreans.
No one cares what u want , I'm muslim european and I always support muslims businesses, I don't agree in taking over from other cultures or nationalities, everyone has their own success, world needs Islam tawheed oneness of Allah, sunnah of Muhamed and understanding of sahaba
The woman at 1:56, isn’t it discrimination that you don’t want to let another race in into your race’s personal space?
I personally don’t care, but you can’t use the discrimination card using a discriminating “act” (whether intended or not, in which I don’t believe she is purposely)
Omg I grew up here and totally support KTOWN
That ending man the Koreans just lost my support ... also just because someone starts something doesn't mean you gotta continue it just some food for thought...also the hardship your parents went through ..the Bangladeshi are feeling now
Please watch the rebuttal video with real facts