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Tanks of the Early North-Africa Campaigns, by The Chieftain - WW2 Special

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  • The Chieftain takes us to North-Africa, where he talks us through the tanks that were used during the first months of the Battles in North-Africa between the Italians and Germans on the one side and British and commonwealth forces on the other.
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  • @WorldWarTwo
    @WorldWarTwo  4 ปีที่แล้ว +297

    This video is, obviously, made by The Chieftain. He covers the tanks of the early campaigns in the North-African theatre in this video, but he has lots more videos on World War Two topics on his own channel. Make sure to subscribe and check out his other stuff as well, as we couldn't dream to cover tanks as in-depth as The Chieftain does on his own channel. You can find that right here: th-cam.com/channels/p4j9Y9L6jie44iZroCb99A.html
    Cheers, Joram
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    • @sirgonzoofrotherham236
      @sirgonzoofrotherham236 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      i hope are going to get some content about Tobruk

    • @bartdecoucke7708
      @bartdecoucke7708 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Please get Ian and Drachinifel on board for guns and ships specials

    • @farhanrahman7119
      @farhanrahman7119 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      More collaboration specials please!!

    • @mmink9336
      @mmink9336 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bart De Coucke I love that guy

    • @ShiftyBandit214
      @ShiftyBandit214 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Honest question, is The Chieftain going to be doing a doctrine video for the Soviets, U.S and Japan like he did for Germany, Italy Britain and France?

  • @stephengalindo6340
    @stephengalindo6340 4 ปีที่แล้ว +754

    "contrary to popular belief, the Italians were not totally incompetent"
    "That's not the vibe I'm getting from Indy on Saturdays"

    • @Grimmtoof
      @Grimmtoof 4 ปีที่แล้ว +148

      There is a large difference between the courage and skill of the various units and the effectiveness of their equipment and high command. In other words some good soldiers with poor kit and bad direction.

    • @Wallyworld30
      @Wallyworld30 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      galindo stephen Speaking of incompetent LindyBeige did a gofundme for a Hannibal graphic Novel that was supposed to ship 3 years ago. In his latest update he tells his backers he’s halfway done with it. Incompetent indeed!

    • @strangerakari2836
      @strangerakari2836 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@Wallyworld30 Are you sure you're not messing up Indy Neidell, host of Great War and this channel, and Lindybeige, who's doing "In Search of Hannibal"?

    • @PennyAfNorberg
      @PennyAfNorberg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Note "totally"

    • @Wallyworld30
      @Wallyworld30 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Stranger Akari Indy is the best it was Lindy that screwed all over his backers. Thanks you guys I love Indy and I’ll edit my First post for correction.

  • @darthcalanil5333
    @darthcalanil5333 4 ปีที่แล้ว +357

    "determination would only go so far against 3 inch of armour" 🤣🤣🤣
    Man do I love Chieftain

    • @johan8969
      @johan8969 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      "That building offends me!" - Chieftain before firing a 75mm round from a Sherman.

    • @macknut2033
      @macknut2033 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tell it to the boys of the giovani fascisti division

  • @mattwoodard2535
    @mattwoodard2535 4 ปีที่แล้ว +230

    "And they all had radios." An important point. sm

    • @mjbull5156
      @mjbull5156 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      The Italian tanks do not have radios and their warships do not have radar. They were fighting half deaf and half blind, relatively speaking.
      In

    • @erikthomsen4768
      @erikthomsen4768 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @MJBull515
      Got a source for that?

    • @mjbull5156
      @mjbull5156 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@erikthomsen4768 The information in this video and the one on the naval battle a week or two where the Royal Navy surprised an Italian task force at night due to the advantage in radar.

    • @The_Crimson_Fucker
      @The_Crimson_Fucker 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@mjbull5156
      Most warships didn't have radar at the start of the war, to the best of my knowledge at least. Well, at least as far as the Axis powers were concerned. The British and the Americans especially where quite big on radar.

    • @AndrewAMartin
      @AndrewAMartin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@The_Crimson_Fucker And even more important than just having radar, is having it tied to the fire control systems. It's one thing to know where your enemy is, it's even better to be able to aim your guns at him in the dark.

  • @eugenioderevell3826
    @eugenioderevell3826 4 ปีที่แล้ว +163

    It is reffreshing to see an actual non biased italian content, keep up the good work!

    • @ACCB710
      @ACCB710 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yes indeed the M13 was not so bad a tank only outdated and the M15 was one of the best light tank the italians ever designed

    • @indianajones4321
      @indianajones4321 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @Vittorio Emanuele Rommel even said the Italian infantry were good in combat and relied on them in battles, it was their leadership that was the problem

    • @ACCB710
      @ACCB710 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@indianajones4321 agreed

    • @eugenioderevell3826
      @eugenioderevell3826 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@indianajones4321 i disagree, the italian high command was full of capable men like giuseppe tellera and annibale bergonzoli, and most died on the field or where captured.

    • @indianajones4321
      @indianajones4321 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @Vittorio Emanuele good point

  • @Idcanymore510
    @Idcanymore510 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    The Italian Folgore Airborne division was amongst the very best fighting units of the entire war. Their exploits are legendary in Italy and Germany. Rommel concluded that they were as good if not better than the German Afika Korp troops. Their sister unit, the Nembo, greatly impressed the British when Italy changed sides in 1943 and they served under British command. Again they were deemed a first class fighting unit as good if not better than their British counter-parts. Hey guys at WW2, why not do an episode on these units, it would be an eye-opener for a lot of people!

  • @BHuang92
    @BHuang92 4 ปีที่แล้ว +369

    The German soldier has astonished the world; the Italian Bersagliere has astonished the German soldier.
    -Erwin Rommel

    • @Johnny_Rico.You_Know_WhatTo_Do
      @Johnny_Rico.You_Know_WhatTo_Do 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      "Logistics? What's that?" -Erwin Rommel

    • @TheIfifi
      @TheIfifi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      @@Johnny_Rico.You_Know_WhatTo_Do oh that old myth.... Rommel was not incompetent with logistics. Halder hated him and fucked him over.
      Halder then survived the war and could spread that rumour of Rommel.

    • @Johnny_Rico.You_Know_WhatTo_Do
      @Johnny_Rico.You_Know_WhatTo_Do 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@TheIfifi Oh I was referring to reality

    • @virginiastatesman4672
      @virginiastatesman4672 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      ​@@Johnny_Rico.You_Know_WhatTo_Do Who knew it's hard to supply giant metal gasoline chugging machines in a desert?

    • @TheIfifi
      @TheIfifi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @Johnnie Walker Why would you think so?
      Rommel did what he could with what he was given. Halder was the one who failed to supply his men in Africa. No matter who lead them it would have been the same.

  • @TheNinjaGumball
    @TheNinjaGumball 4 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    As fantastic as the whole crew here is, collaborations are always amazing, and are a surefire way to grow the channel. I'd love to see more collaborations with The_Chieftain, and maybe Sabaton, C&Rsenal, Forgotten Weapons, Military History Visualized, and more!!! Keep up the great work Team!!!

    • @Arbiter099
      @Arbiter099 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      MHV, FW and Bismarck, of Military Aviation History collaborated on a documentary, 16 Days in Berlin, about the battle in '45. Reccomend checking it out!

    • @luxin6235
      @luxin6235 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Check out sabaton history for the collab series between sabaton and Indy

    • @TheNinjaGumball
      @TheNinjaGumball 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@luxin6235 ive seen every sabaton history episode!

    • @Raskolnikov70
      @Raskolnikov70 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same, as long as they don't introduce that gahd-awful World of Tanks music every 20 seconds in the video that made me unsubscribe from Chieftan's channel.

    • @LukeBunyip
      @LukeBunyip 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Raskolnikov70 He's doing his own editing now. It's such a relief...

  • @martinelliotedwards1883
    @martinelliotedwards1883 4 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    My ancestor commanded a Matilda in North Africa. His Matilda was part of the defense at Tobruk.

    • @Colonel_Overkill
      @Colonel_Overkill 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      He and others on both sides have my respect. Life for the poor bastards on the front is shit and they deserve to be remembered. Remember his service with pride.

    • @christiandauz3742
      @christiandauz3742 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If the Allies (excluding the Soviets) had T-14 Armata Tanks at the start of WW2 how much of a dramatic change is it?
      Could Poland survive? The Chinese stop and counterattack the Japanese?

    • @arianas0714
      @arianas0714 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@christiandauz3742 Yes, they most likely could, with some careful planing.

    • @babylonsburning1
      @babylonsburning1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Grandfather?, great Grandfather? but surely not an ancestor...........

  • @Bird_Dog00
    @Bird_Dog00 4 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    Hehe, I could almost feel how Nick had to restrain himself to stay within the 15 minute time limit.
    Such an intresting topic, so little time...
    For the broad overview this was intended to be, good video.

    • @scrubsrc4084
      @scrubsrc4084 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Putting him infron of a tank and a camera with David Fletcher and we have a 24 hour live stream ready to go

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Thanks!

    • @christofferthorsson7657
      @christofferthorsson7657 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@scrubsrc4084 I'd watch that

  • @SuperLusername
    @SuperLusername 4 ปีที่แล้ว +212

    I bless the tanks down in Africaaaaaaa!

    • @SuperLusername
      @SuperLusername 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Sry I had to

    • @ACCB710
      @ACCB710 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@SuperLusername no no you good homie

    • @Raskolnikov70
      @Raskolnikov70 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      WOOOOOOOO!!!! TOTO!!!! YEAH TOTO!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @dr.lyleevans6915
      @dr.lyleevans6915 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Gonna take some time to do the things we never had -BM

    • @BeingFireRetardant
      @BeingFireRetardant 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Hurry boy, she's waiting there for you...
      Ah, yes, Matilda.

  • @benwilson6145
    @benwilson6145 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    During Operation Compass Wavell noted that after capturing an Italian position the guns were all still their and the gunners also (All dead). Wavell had a lot of respect for the Italian soldiers, he had fought with them in WW1, Rommel won his Pour le Mérite fighting the Italians.

    • @SaulKopfenjager
      @SaulKopfenjager 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Um, you do know how Rommel won his Blue Max fighting the Italians? It was something like cutting off 10000 men & capturing them with just 200. (Without Panzers!)

    • @timonsolus
      @timonsolus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Saul Fischauer : If you had to carry out repeated WW1 style human wave frontal attacks against a well trained and well equipped enemy dug in halfway up a mountain, you’d be demoralised too.

    • @benwilson6145
      @benwilson6145 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SaulKopfenjager Richard O'Connor won his Silver Medal of Military Valor and a Bar to his DSO.for helping the Italians defeat the Austro Hungarians,

    • @dogsnads5634
      @dogsnads5634 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SaulKopfenjager The weird thing is most Italian's would have rather fought the German's than the British, the carnage of WW1 was remembered and the British fighting alongside them.

    • @jackjohnson2101
      @jackjohnson2101 ปีที่แล้ว

      there

  • @Italian_Military_Archives
    @Italian_Military_Archives 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Chieftain is great as always. Happy that he covered such topic, especially italian tanks which are often sidlined but formed a large part of Rommel's armoured units

  • @DiggingForFacts
    @DiggingForFacts 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    For anyone wanting to read more into Italian Armour in the Desert campaign, I recommend reading 'Iron hulls, Iron hearts: Mussolini's Elite Armoured Divisions in North Africa' by Ian Walker.

    • @carroarmato199
      @carroarmato199 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for the suggestion! I didn't know such a book existed!

    • @dogsnads5634
      @dogsnads5634 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@carroarmato199 Treat it with care....its not seen as a very good historical source by most historians.

    • @carroarmato199
      @carroarmato199 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dogsnads5634 ok thanks!

  • @martinlaird4738
    @martinlaird4738 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    So excited for this video! and a great Collab with the chieftain is always welcome

  • @YaBoiVinnyBot
    @YaBoiVinnyBot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    History video: *Italians actually did okay on some things*
    Comments section: LA LA LA I CAN’T HEAR YOU ITALY DUMB HAHA GIVE ME MY REDDIT GOLD NOW

    • @loods2215
      @loods2215 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lmao

    • @Raskolnikov70
      @Raskolnikov70 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Have an upvote, kind stranger!
      (p.s. the narwal bacons at midnight tee hee!)

    • @YaBoiVinnyBot
      @YaBoiVinnyBot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Raskolnikov70 bro omg u r redditor too??? Le epixxx :DDD

    • @oskarrasmussen7137
      @oskarrasmussen7137 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Personally I hope it keeps up.
      It works great as a setup for Kasserine Pass.

    • @YaBoiVinnyBot
      @YaBoiVinnyBot 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oskarrasmussen7137 Oooh fair enough, that'll be fun when it gets covered.

  • @indianajones4321
    @indianajones4321 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Yes! The North Africa theatre is my favorite one

    • @loods2215
      @loods2215 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @42 i swear I've seen this guy before

  • @hendrikvanleeuwen9110
    @hendrikvanleeuwen9110 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Such a cool era of mechanised warfare. Odd ball vehicles from Britain, Italy, Germany and France, all trying to work out what this tank thing was all about.

    • @JTA1961
      @JTA1961 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tanks for the observation. 🍳😎

    • @pagodebregaeforro2803
      @pagodebregaeforro2803 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Now is guided portable missiles and drone era. Seems even more scarier nowadays.

  • @danielbat9887
    @danielbat9887 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Collaborations confirmed!!! This means Chieftain, most likely MHV, Ian from Forgotten Weapons, C&R Arsenal and many more excellent historians! I love seeing the quality of the show go up. I'll contribute to Patreon as soon as I can.

    • @exohead1
      @exohead1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      C&Rsenal has already said no they’re not doing WW2, Ian is most likely a no between his schedule and some of what was said on IRTV suggested a no as well, and InRange is totally out.

    • @exohead1
      @exohead1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Deborah Meltrozo IRTV’s video on their reasoning th-cam.com/video/2lN8FC1cKUk/w-d-xo.html

    • @exohead1
      @exohead1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      As for C&Rsenal, Othais has repeatedly said on video they will not be doing a WW2 series, as they aren’t even finished with WW1, WW2 has some serious issues regarding copyrighted footage and audio making the usual format much more challenging, and that they want to explore something else for a while, like Civil War guns or sporting shotguns.

    • @Raskolnikov70
      @Raskolnikov70 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can't wait for the collab with Donut Operator. TACPACCCC!!!!!

  • @stevebarrett9357
    @stevebarrett9357 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "But, by and large, Matilda went where Matilda wanted." I can visualize the Broadway musical:
    Whate'er Matilda wants
    Matilda gets
    And little tank
    This Matilda wants you . . .
    Once again a great talk. Thank you Chieftain.

  • @agdgdgwngo
    @agdgdgwngo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Very interesting run down of the tanks in theatre. For some reason, I'm much more interested in early war and light tanks then I am Tigers and Shermans and what have you

    • @timonsolus
      @timonsolus 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too.
      For me, it’s because they are the tanks in use when the strategic outcome of the war was still in doubt. By the time the Tigers and Shermans first appeared in late 1942, it was a foregone conclusion that the Allies were going to win. The only thing still in doubt was exactly how long it was going to take.
      Strategically, Germany lost the war in early December 1941 when Operation Barbarossa failed to knock the USSR out of the fight, and Hitler declared war on the USA. Even if the Germans had captured Stalingrad and Alexandria in mid-1942, it would not have changed the outcome of the war, as they could not have held either for long.

    • @dogsnads5634
      @dogsnads5634 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The campaign's in Western Europe and the Eastern Front are all interesting. But the most interesting campaigns are the least known. Operation Compass is one of the great campaigns of the war, the East Africa campaign including the naval and air war there are also amazing.

  • @HSMiyamoto
    @HSMiyamoto 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Percy Hobart as a Home Guard Lance Corporal. That is one of the most surprising historical facts that I have ever heard of. I can just imagine him with his spectacles shouting "Don't Panic! Don't Panic!" and "They don't like it up 'em!"
    Just kidding, I'm sure Hobart was a fantastic Home Guardsman for as long as it lasted. He seems to have been one of the most imaginative general officers in the history of the Regular Army.

    • @colbeausabre8842
      @colbeausabre8842 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I imagine being a member of the squad he was leading was an "interesting experience:. BTW, for all the Dad's Army garbage, many of the Home Guard were veterans of places like the Western Front and Palestine and would have been fighting for their homes, not such a joke, I can remember a picture of a sixtyish guardsman grinning wolfishly as he sharpened his just issued bayonet and middle aged squad brandishing their freshly issued kukris.

  • @Mrdax707
    @Mrdax707 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Given the work it took to restore Bovington's Matilda and their assertion that the roller bearings and road gear was meant to go only 50 miles before needed to be completely refurbished, I don't blame the commander's sparing driving of them.

    • @timonsolus
      @timonsolus 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      D. Sal : Absolutely. The Matilda was never designed for long desert drives. It did pretty well, all things considered.

  • @LmgWarThunder
    @LmgWarThunder 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I loved the visuals that accompanied what The Chieftain was saying. They really added to his quaint but a tad static routine of talking to the camera

  • @MrPedroleiria
    @MrPedroleiria 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Matilda will go where Matilda damn well pleases, thank you very much!

  • @johnlansing2902
    @johnlansing2902 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Having known Italian soldiers who fought and were captured in North Africa their expressed attitude seemed to be, why should I fight to make hitler happy? They were not cowards just did not follow the party line at all.

    • @loods2215
      @loods2215 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Exactly, and people go around saying they were all just cowards

    • @keptinkaos6384
      @keptinkaos6384 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Australia got lots of them as pows did wonders for our world view and in the end, Italian immigrants were some of our best imports turned us into espresso addicts and a country of coffee snobs and pasta eaters.

    • @keptinkaos6384
      @keptinkaos6384 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@loods2215 a lot of germans must have wondered in the dying months of WW2 when the Nazis were butchering them too WTF did we do?

    • @dr.lyleevans6915
      @dr.lyleevans6915 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      It wasn’t really Germany’s fault they were in North Africa though, that was BM’s delusions of recreating the Roman Empire

    • @doolittlegeorge
      @doolittlegeorge 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dr.lyleevans6915 yeah, exactly. Plus Italy attacked into the Balkans before Germany invaded as well. And this ignores what will happen with Army Group South in Southern Russia. One I think could argue correctly is that *all* Hitler ever did was copy the ideas of Italy save for the one where Germany defeats France in 6 weeks and of course Norway. In any case look at the terrain Italian motorized units are having to fight in. No matter how good your engineering all of these Theaters(Southeastern Europe, North Africa, soon Southern Russia) are a worst case scenario for any type of performance machine. Ironically enough this would become a major failing of German engineering as well but so much of World War 2 was about fielding the untested and unproven straight into Battle. Some of that would still work out spectacularly well for the Germans particularly in the realm of Artillery. Prime movers were a disaster from Day One for the Axis Powers tho so just look at the area of all too real conflict and imagine having to walk that as your prime mover! Not good! Really, really, really bad in point of fact.

  • @RockinL7BuckingBulls
    @RockinL7BuckingBulls 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting subject. Thank you I will be rewatching this for all the info.

  • @artkoenig9434
    @artkoenig9434 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for your direct and dry humored delilvery. It made your presentation easy to listen to and passed on a wealth of information at warp speed.

    • @JTA1961
      @JTA1961 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good point

  • @orbitalair2103
    @orbitalair2103 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My favorite campaign and time, North Africa 40-42. Thanks for this little video !

  • @weswatkins2810
    @weswatkins2810 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think you make some of the most informative war videos on the internet. My only complaint is you talk faster than I can hear. Just glad the CC button works. You keep making them and I'll keep watching them.

  • @rgm96x49
    @rgm96x49 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wouldn't ride it to battle and all but I'd totally drive around in a CV33 if I could. Seems pretty fun.

    • @tomdynia9951
      @tomdynia9951 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes! I built a model of a CV33 a few years ago and figured out the real vehicle would fit comfortably in my garage. Would love to go to the grocery store in one!

  • @Grundag
    @Grundag 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm currently building a 1/35 Tamiya Pz IV 'D' Afrika version as a research tank for detailing and painting a Heng Long Pz IV 'early 'F'. This video was informative and very useful. Thank you!

  • @gelgamath_9903
    @gelgamath_9903 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There are so many backhanded compliments in this episode. I love it

  • @Kralanil
    @Kralanil 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s good to see chief here.

  • @mr.pickles6158
    @mr.pickles6158 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Awsom work guys, keep it up!!!

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! We'll keep on making it if you carry on supporting us! The best way to do that is via Patreon (if you haven't already) www.patreon.com/TimeGhostHistory

  • @AverytheCubanAmerican
    @AverytheCubanAmerican 4 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    They would’ve had a chance if they used Bob Semples

    • @inthepipe_5x5.56
      @inthepipe_5x5.56 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      As long as they didn't encounter any Emu

    • @ianmiller8399
      @ianmiller8399 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Carson Lund Wrong country. Bob Semples were from New Zealand

    • @inthepipe_5x5.56
      @inthepipe_5x5.56 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ianmiller8399 I think you are reading too much into a one off joke. Hopefully you aren't going to explain to the OP that Italians couldn't use them too because they were from New Zealand

    • @allangibson8494
      @allangibson8494 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@inthepipe_5x5.56 A Bob Semple would struggle against a kiwi...

    • @ulissedazante5748
      @ulissedazante5748 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If the neozelanders have brought a Bob Semple with them, the Africa campaign would have been a lot shorter.

  • @leemondez
    @leemondez 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Three cheers for The Chieftain. Love from Ireland

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you out if the hatch from the Chieftain

  • @markcantemail8018
    @markcantemail8018 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Nich and Indy . I enjoyed this video .

  • @russwoodward8251
    @russwoodward8251 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great content, nice inset photos too. Thanks for the research.

  • @averyzucco220
    @averyzucco220 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Italian military command to AFC designers "Build us your best armored vehicle!"
    Italian engineers "We build a fast car with a gun on top"

    • @DiggingForFacts
      @DiggingForFacts 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Oh the engineers were perfectly capable of designing good vehicles. The Industry's ability to build them and Mussolini's desire to fund them however...not so much

    • @martijn9568
      @martijn9568 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DiggingForFacts Yes, the italians were able design such good vehicles, but I'm curious how well adapted they were to mass production

    • @timonsolus
      @timonsolus 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      DiggingForFacts : One of Mussolini’s mistakes was building too many huge 15” gun battleships. While Littorio and Vittorio Veneto entered service in 1940, their sister ship Roma wasn’t ready until late 1942, and Impero was never completed. The steel from the last 2 ships would have been enough to build at least 5,000 tanks.

  • @seanlander9321
    @seanlander9321 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    At Bardia the British 7th was almost useless. The Australian infantry had to baby them to the front line, through wire, mine fields and tank traps, which is where the Matilda’s promptly broke down, only three made it to the end of the battle, one of which was towed. The problem was that the British engineers hadn’t the training for dealing with sand, particularly in air filters. Nevertheless the Australian infantry took Bardia from three times their number and the British took the credit until the American newspapers set the record straight for what was the first decisive victory on land for the Allies in WWII.

    • @grahamlowe314
      @grahamlowe314 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The first decisive victory was at sidi barrani sport to burst your bubble

  • @tetrapack.mantovano
    @tetrapack.mantovano 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The l3/35 was also in other 2 models, one with a flamethrower and one with a 20 mm salothurn rifle

    • @timonsolus
      @timonsolus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Federico Manerba : The flamethrower version was quite effective.

  • @Bob.W.
    @Bob.W. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    From division commander to lance corporal in the home guard? Who did Hobart piss off?

    • @657449
      @657449 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He must have had many important enemies who had the power to remove him. He must have done or said something that they used to get him retired.

    • @Blazo_Djurovic
      @Blazo_Djurovic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Given Indy's wording and what I remmeber him being a fanatical proponent of mechanization and an "original character", I'd expect it was less pissing a specific person, but more him ticking off pretty much ANYONE who might dissagree with him on stuff and having probably a bit abrasive personality.

    • @jon-paulfilkins7820
      @jon-paulfilkins7820 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Blazo_Djurovic So more a case who didn't he tick off! yeah, I have met some people like that, noticeably brilliant, visionary even, people skills and diplomatic tact however, less said the better.

    • @retiredstillriding843
      @retiredstillriding843 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      General Wavell dismissed him, basically on instruction from the war office, for as you say winding everyone up

    • @retiredstillriding843
      @retiredstillriding843 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      General Wavell dismissed him, basically on instruction from the war office, for as you say winding everyone up

  • @DeaconBlu
    @DeaconBlu 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great vid.
    Thanks folks!
    😎👍

  • @farhanrahman7119
    @farhanrahman7119 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great collaboration,loved this episode!

  • @nacht_kaperschiff2670
    @nacht_kaperschiff2670 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice to see the Chieftain working with the WWII crew.

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      We're pretty happy about it as well.

    • @nacht_kaperschiff2670
      @nacht_kaperschiff2670 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WorldWarTwo Any chance of you guys getting "The Mighty Jingles" to work with you guys on WWII ships?

  • @DeePsix501
    @DeePsix501 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    LOVE THIS. Please do more with The Chieftain

  • @eskimo05w
    @eskimo05w 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @ 15:53 What a strange photo! Armed Commonwealth troops lining the street and riding atop, what appears to be, an active and armed German Pkfw I. Very, very strange.

  • @giovannifontana1433
    @giovannifontana1433 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My great granduncle fought the all the in African campaign from 40 to the fall of tripoli.
    He was a driver of AB 41, it was not a bad vehicle, he was enlisted in to the Bersaglieri and captured soon after the the fall of tripoli and then deteined in South Africa until 1947.
    He executed recon mission during the Rommel campaign in Egypt.
    After the war he was lorry driver carried heavy machinery from Spain to Pakistan.

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you ever get to meet him? He must have had some great stories!

    • @giovannifontana1433
      @giovannifontana1433 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@WorldWarTwo unfortunately no but I have met is wife. One thing he has always remember was the heat of the desert, he sad that some times u could fry eggs on the armor.
      During the preliminary phase of the 2 battle of El Alamain their armored car broke the the transmission and they had to walk for 100 km only to discover that the they're line was fall in British hands and they to walk another 60 before they found a German patrol unit.

  • @Warump
    @Warump 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had to check multiple times what channel am I watching. Nice video, thanks !

  • @Punisher9419
    @Punisher9419 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My great grandfather was in North Afrika. He was in an A13 cruiser.

  • @bashirmuhammad8181
    @bashirmuhammad8181 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really enjoyed this narrative and the wonderful photos. Great archival work. Great presentation.

  • @jfdavis668
    @jfdavis668 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great! I've been waiting for this subject. Thanks.

  • @Kollider115
    @Kollider115 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love the video, hope airplanes are on the way! I have been trying to do my own research on how much of what types of planes for which nations were in what numbers at different points of the war

  • @maxsmodels
    @maxsmodels 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love it when these channels overlap.

  • @rikijett310
    @rikijett310 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you!!! You take care as well!!!

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you enjoyed the video!

  • @fishsmiddy1048
    @fishsmiddy1048 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Some of those tanks look like fun to build as models!

  • @dirkbonesteel
    @dirkbonesteel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Attention Bovington Tank fans He has a hat!!!!

    • @TheChieftainsHatch
      @TheChieftainsHatch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      And a gun. And I live in Texas.

    • @justarandomguy37
      @justarandomguy37 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheChieftainsHatch do you got the same hat as doyle?

    • @TheChieftainsHatch
      @TheChieftainsHatch 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@justarandomguy37 no, it has more brass.

  • @paultzacos7470
    @paultzacos7470 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the WW2 stuff.......thx Chieftain.

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How interesting. He talked about a lot of interesting tanks. Some of which I didn't know existed. Nice job.

  • @rvail136
    @rvail136 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Didn't think you were doing any more of these.

  • @loganater45
    @loganater45 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice vid. Arietes victory at Bil el Gubi would have been worth a mention.

  • @Kevin_M312
    @Kevin_M312 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not going to lie Chieftain, you doing videos about tanks makes me want to play some World of Tanks haha. Excellent video as always.

  • @alexeytoptygin7581
    @alexeytoptygin7581 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At 13:42 did you notice that the Matilda has the crew's helmets protecting the lights on the front? Says something about how important those lights were.

    • @punishedgondola1814
      @punishedgondola1814 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would also imagine that all the glass in the lights would give off reflections from the sun during the day.

  • @its_dippy6779
    @its_dippy6779 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So tall tank man is a fan of Monty Python too, yeah?
    I see one figurine of the Black Knight and what I assume to be a plush of the killer rabbit Caerbannog back on that rack there.

  • @GaldirEonai
    @GaldirEonai 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Italy: Not Entirely Incompetent.
    - The Chieftain, 2020.

  • @wfp9378
    @wfp9378 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    9:32 The story about that photo would be intriguing. Surrendered British tommies in France having a joy ride on a Pz 1. The commander looks nonplussed and is ignoring them. I am feeling old. I worked with guys who had served in the desert. Where have the years gone?

  • @lilandry
    @lilandry 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Chieftain, amazing and informative as usual, very like's his videos

  • @MyCaptainPugwash
    @MyCaptainPugwash 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Australian used to call them Ice-Cream soldiers, melted in the sun......

  • @goodsous
    @goodsous 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Honestly, an hour long video would have been fine as well!

    • @mikefinkbiner4905
      @mikefinkbiner4905 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes - I would love to see more details about the early desert equpiment

  • @BRAgamer
    @BRAgamer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:11 yup, and that gun is actually a Vickers project made by Terni.

  • @PhillyPhanVinny
    @PhillyPhanVinny 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    awesome video, keep up the good work

  • @mattrguitar
    @mattrguitar 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another really informative, well sourced video. Thank you, sir!

  • @GunnyKeith
    @GunnyKeith 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks sir, well done

  • @billbutler335
    @billbutler335 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you look at the Italian units individually, what you find is this:
    1. over all very good troops (especially Artillerymen)
    2. generally saddled with bad to mediocre equipment (Infantry and Armor), note that the British and later American troops have a high respect for the Italian artillery,
    3. with a command structure that was hamstrung by the orders from home that bore no basis in reality.
    So no wonder they had problems, When they could fight within their capabilities they did pretty well.

  • @iupetre
    @iupetre 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I saw ads on this channel! Congrats guys! I know they will probably not be there for most episodes, but it's still nice to see. I hope you're getting some of that money.

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The money is not the main issue - when monetized the videos get recommended. TH-cam pays pocket change per thousand views (less than 50 cents).

  • @marlecmarine5393
    @marlecmarine5393 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, interesting and informative, the depth of his knowledge on this subject is staggering.........fantastic collaboration...more please.....:-)

  • @lkey1843
    @lkey1843 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    At first, when reading the title, i thought no wonder that the Italians got beaten badly when the British allready had the Chieftain!

  • @folgore1
    @folgore1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Regarding the puny Italian tankettes, I saw the one at Bovington. Never mind trying to wedge the Chieftain into that thing; as a man of 5' 7", I don't think I would've been able to fit into it! I dare say your typical five year old would've found it claustrophobic!

  • @loods2215
    @loods2215 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Looking forward to all the geniuses down here with the "haha Italy bad" original and extremely historically accurate jokes

  • @slone679
    @slone679 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    shortest video ever by chieftain? Must have been quite the exhausting exercise in restraint.

    • @TheChieftainsHatch
      @TheChieftainsHatch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You have no idea....

    • @JTA1961
      @JTA1961 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's what I thought also...

  • @briankorbelik2873
    @briankorbelik2873 ปีที่แล้ว

    Perhaps I'm old school or just old, but when I think of the war in North Africa Shermans and Tigers are not the first tanks to come to mind. I think of the many types of British "Cruiser" tanks, ths Matilda, the Italian M13/40, 41's, and 42's, the German PZ I's, PZ II's, PZ III's and PZ IV's. I know that there were many others but when I think of tank battles in North Africa I think of say PZ III's vs whatever model of British Cruiser tanks that the 8th Army was fielding at the time.

  • @Unknown-ei7we
    @Unknown-ei7we 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tanks for the video

  • @Lord.Kiltridge
    @Lord.Kiltridge 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Mk VI light tank is an example of the adage: in the land of the blind the one eyed man is king.

    • @timonsolus
      @timonsolus 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lord Kiltridge : The Mk VIC was an OK tank as long as the only thing you used it for was reconnaissance. It’s when you start expecting it to actually fight the enemy that the problems start.

  • @user-oh2kt8lf6g
    @user-oh2kt8lf6g 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    3:17 The prototype was Renault FT 17 rather than Fiat FT 17.

  • @Sum41rthe1
    @Sum41rthe1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love a tank special!

  • @donaldvandergriff6590
    @donaldvandergriff6590 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your the best brother, love listening to your posts. Thank you.

  • @papaaaaaaa2625
    @papaaaaaaa2625 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I wanted to Point Out that the Chieftain did a minor mistake here, there where 3 STUG III in Africa with a really interesting Unit.
    In late 1941 a Part of the Sonderverband 288 was send to Libya, in early 1942 the Rest of this Unit.
    They where equimpt with 4 STUG III (only 3 arrived).
    Two of these vehicles got into british Hand, where shipped to England and tested.
    One of these STUG III is restorated and in running condition in England!
    You should try to Cover the Story behind Sonderverband 288 and 287. 288 was planned as a offensive Force into India!
    Nuts...

    • @papaaaaaaa2625
      @papaaaaaaa2625 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is a Video of the STUG III I'm talking about. You can also find Videos where it is running. Note the Green Palm Tree Emblem of Sonderverband 288 in the Front!
      th-cam.com/video/fqd4PifP8F0/w-d-xo.html

    • @pincopallino6765
      @pincopallino6765 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      PAPAAAAAAA!!! This video is referred to the time-frame already covered by the serie (1940/1941): he will likely adress the evolution of armor in Africa (late 1941/1942) in a video the next year, where StuG, M3, M4, Churchill, Semovente 75/18 etc will appear.

    • @papaaaaaaa2625
      @papaaaaaaa2625 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pincopallino6765 You're right. I misunderstood the Years in the Thumbnail and didn't realized that the WorldWar 2 Timeline ist important.
      Thanks.

  • @madogthefirst
    @madogthefirst 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am simple man I see Chieftain I like video.

  • @damianousley8833
    @damianousley8833 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Given the state of armour of the Italians and their limited motorised logistics it is easy to understand the early successes the British and Commonwealth forces had against the Italians in Libya and East Africa. One thing to be said is that the largely conscript nature of the Italian army with troops that had grown weary of the military life as they were kept in uniform for a long time, they were easily convinced to put their hand up in surrender when tactically they were outmanoeuvred. No one really wanted to die for Mussolini and his facists. Though, when the situation was in their favour, they fought reasonably well. As the British forces said of the columns of surrendered Italians " there go the gentleman". I think the Italians who surrendered early in the war were very lucky characters and very pragmatic to the situation they found themselves in as prisoners of war and felt lucky they didn't have to go to Russia and most survived the war to see the peace and return home. Many immigrating after the war to greener pastures. We were lucky in Australia pre abd post war in that the Greek and Italian immigrants bought their peasant food and coffee cultures to our shores with their greasy spoon cafes and coffee shops. They quickly adapted to the Anglophile fish and chip shop as well.

  • @RailfanDownunder
    @RailfanDownunder 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    British acquired some Bofors 37mm anti tank guns and they were some of the first portee guns at Brda Fomm .... Universal carriers also made up Divisional Cavalry Regiments with Vickers Light Tanks

  • @terrystephens1102
    @terrystephens1102 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    An excellent episode, thanks.😁👌👌👌👏👏👏

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're very welcome @Terry Stephens! It is all thanks to the contributions of the TimeGhost Army that we can do specials and collaborations like this in addition to our regular episodes so consider signing up if you haven't already

  • @mollysmoshingtankcrew9441
    @mollysmoshingtankcrew9441 ปีที่แล้ว

    "determination will only go so far when your opponent has 3 inches of armor"
    OOOF!

  • @mikereger1186
    @mikereger1186 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    YES the best kinds of collaboration, TimeGhost and the Chieftain :D

  • @Stephen-wb3wf
    @Stephen-wb3wf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Alright The Chieftan!!! Nice surprise.

  • @edmondbarrett3968
    @edmondbarrett3968 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The early stuff is often more interesting simply because it's more experimental.

  • @jcorbo7518
    @jcorbo7518 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Top 10 anime crossovers in history

  • @PalleRasmussen
    @PalleRasmussen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nicholas (Y)
    Either TIK or Bernard from Military History Visualised has done a video on how Italy's industrial infrastructure was not in any way prepared for war, while many Italian soldiers did not really fancy fighting in a world war. But even those who were motivated and brave, needed modern equipment- and did not have it.

    • @QuizmasterLaw
      @QuizmasterLaw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It was MHV (Bernard).

    • @QuizmasterLaw
      @QuizmasterLaw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I believe Dr. Mark Felton did a great video on the Italian sea cavalry (or whatever their frogmen are called) and their special boats, which were then copied by the SBS.
      Btw, I win wars with Russian Bear Cavalry. SKRITNO!

    • @PalleRasmussen
      @PalleRasmussen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@QuizmasterLaw I am not keen on Felton, He emphasizes the propagation and sensationalism over sources and validity.

    • @martijn9568
      @martijn9568 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PalleRasmussen And he really seems keen on the wunderwaffe

  • @cheuvelmans
    @cheuvelmans 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    thx for your video's. I enjoy them a lot

  • @alexamerling79
    @alexamerling79 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Timeghost for continuing to post videos :) I'm really interested in the German Panzerwaffe so anything about tanks (especially the German tanks) is especially appreciated :)