INSTANT REACTION: Patriots using their tag option on Kyle Dugger | Felger & Mazz
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ก.ย. 2024
- Mike Felger, Tony Massarotti and "Big Jim" Murray offer instant reaction following news that the New England Patriots have use their 'tag option' for the 2024 season on Kyle Dugger. The team has transitioned tagged the safety, rather than the franchise tag, with guarantees Dugger a 1-year deal worth $13.8M and gives the team the right to match any offers he receives in free agency, but does not include draft compensation if he signs elsewhere.
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These dudes are so negative is sickening
youtube.com/@PatriotsToday?si=QltWkGTINvn4ZiTb wayyyyy better
Unless they are faking it every show who would marry their negative asses lmao
Watch them say they over paid now lol
talk about getting mad over nothing
youtube.com/@PatriotsToday?si=QltWkGTINvn4ZiTb wayyy better
100%
Our media is garbage negative idiots everywhere besides the main team podcast guys and Phil Perry
They save 5 million dollars because his contract is paid at the top 10 in his position rate not a top 5 rate like the franchise tag
Yeah probably, you really shouldn't get upset at the team until they fail that retaining a guy or offering him a competitive contract. That said if they end up losing him any sons to reasonable money elsewhere, it's worth revisiting this decision
Felger, what you might be missing is that the Patriots didn't know the true market for Dugger and so used the transition tag to find that number from other teams. Additionally, Dugger's team may have suggested his market was much higher than the Patriots imagined, and so the tag calls their bluff. The main risk to the Patriots is if they are wrong about Dugger's market value, and he does receive an offer they don't match - in that case, they lose draft compensation and Dugger. My guess? Dugger wanted $15m/year with 3 years guaranteed on a 4 year deal. The Patriots wanted to pay him $12m/year on a 2 year guarantee on a 4 year deal. Patriots are trying to save $6-8 million over 2-3 years and are risking a late 3rd round compensatory pick for the savings. Time will tell.
Damn, I’m gonna have to stop watching this. Are they only fans when we’re winning? These guys find the illest shit to get mad at lol
They aren’t fans . They give realistic analysis on the team and are right most of the time
@zOd8KL They have literally won championships and they dogged the patriots the entire year
@@reganderson9721 cuz they suck. And Belichick ran the organization into the ground and Kraft is a overrated owner
@@aaronsinger they aren’t fans tho. What fans Want to hear isn’t always reality.
@zOd8KL lol yeah after 24 years 2nd all time in wins and 6 rings.....pretty ran down
Imagine getting mad about the patriots retaining a good player. 😂
Imagine wanting to pay a safety who can't cover anyone 15+ million a year
Its great audio though 😂
@patriotsdynasty4866 then who would you pay stupid idiot? Do you expect a team full of 53 HOFers?
Fr 😂
@@patriotsdynasty4866 dude the way these guys are acting you'd think they gave Devante Parker this kind of money lmao.
These dudes r complaining like theyve ran a NFL team before nothing will every be good enough for felger cuzz its not belichick
But he hated belichick too nothing is good enough for him in general
He's always been frustrated with the tag but just didn't know what it was😂😂😂😂
The franchise tag would have given Dugger $17.1 million next year vs. $13.8 million on the transition tag. $17.1 million would have tied him with Antoine Winfield Jr. for for the third highest average salary among all safeties which I think is a bit rich for Dugger. With the transition tag it allows him to test the market and match any offers, so it's a way to allow him to safely test the market some and if he doesn't get a better offer but still doesn't want to sign with the Pats we're guaranteed to have him for at least 1 more year. It's actually a really smart move. My guess is he ends up with the Pats at somewhere around 4 years and $15 million a year.
“Full throttle,” and “Burning cash,” are sounding funnier by the day.
Nice lighthouse Kraft, put a damn team on the field.
FELGER: This is so useless! I hate it. ALSO FELGER 3 seconds later: I don't know what the tag is
They pay him 2 to 5 million less in this because he is paid the top 10 rate for his position '13M' instead of the top 5 rate of 16 to 18M as a franchise tagged player.
These 2 have no idea about it as you may have guessed.
The most they gonna give him would be like 17mil wit the regular tag. Ominuwe is gonna get the bigger contract which he deserves. Trust dugger is not poyer or hyde his not gonna get have that kinda of market he will stay wit the pats
Somehow he thinks that we believe he doesn’t always find something “tickey tacky”! 😂😂😂
Felger sucks!
You suck. Felger is great.
Maybe what you're missing is that there have already been reports of FAs like Evans and Mayfield not wanting to sign in New England, probably because they view it as signing up for a long rebuild. I don't think Tom Curran is wrong in saying it's setting up like the Patriots are going to have to spend a "suck tax" in order to convince a FA to sign there.
Also, this decision probably doesn't engender the same negative sentiment from the player as the franchise tag does. Though the players have been outspoken about how the franchise tag just delays their ability to obtain long term security, it does also change contract negotiations - they're able to bank a year of guaranteed salary and go back to the market the next year for another chance at long term security. In the case of the transition tag, you allow the player to obtain that certainty and security of a market rate contract for themselves while also ensuring you get the chance to determine if that known cost is what you want to pay to keep him around long term. It also means you're less likely to have a disgruntled player who doesn't want to be here, cause he got his market rate contract either way. Without the tag, the agent is able to hold you over a barrel and say "We have an offer in hand, but you have to blow it out of the water in order to get him to choose you, because he doesn't want to sign up for a long rebuild." Additionally, it seems to me that this is a way of signaling to players that, unlike the previous regime, they're not against paying players market value on long term deals.
Also, the non-Dugger related part: it might signal that they've made progress in negotiations with Onwenu - or at least have been assured that he's interested in signing back with them. The tag deadline is over a week before the start of free agency, so they still retain exclusive rights to negotiate with him beyond the tag deadline. Maybe they think they're able to get that deal done within that timeframe, and chose to use the tag option on Dugger instead, because there was less of a chance that he would extend prior to free agency (and they chose the transition option over the franchise option for the reasons I listed above).
If you intend to match you retain the player. Good move. JMO Basically you get one year of the player and time to make a decission of getting a FA and drafting a replacement.
We are listening to people who never played football can’t throw a football. So I’m not suprised
Tell me when the media won a Super Bowl or any Championships. Money waste for an opinion, when the media is so negative.
This is not a good sign of things to come on spending the cap money.
I’m with these guys, just resign the guy or let him go.
He’s clearly a good safety and I want to keep this guy long-term.
I really don't understand Felgar. Dude is always complaining about nothing.
I’m so glad I don’t have to listen to this everyday. This shtick is very annoying
Aww yeah, burning that cash
let him go we already know peppers plays good and is still under contract.
I’d like to see players getting more freedom
lmao these two idiots are hilarious.
This segment was such a waste of time. Could of turned off the video 30 seconds in and got everything they had to offer.
What if they have a starting number and they want to meet half way? It gives you time to negotiate
Man, these guys are whiners! Every time I watch, it is just complaining and whining.
Feel like this means dugger was definitely about to leave us ..
This dude looks really naive.no business common sense at all.
So we signing Mike?
They are probably in talks with him or may use the franchise tag on him.
Edit
A team can only use one or the other.
Can’t can use one or the other
Didn’t even make it 30 seconds. Paused at :29 what a terrible excuse for content. Do better.
Dugger is overrated though. They aren’t saying anything that’s wrong. He sucks in pass coverage and if I’m running a defense that is where I would rather have my safeties be good at. Against the passing game. Them being good against the run is icing on the cake. If they aren’t great, but good when it comes to run defense I’ll take that. I want them to be great against the pass though.
Thank you
Man this sucked
You sound like crybabies
So instead of tagging one of our best Offensive lineman we tagged an old safety (28 years) 😂 isn’t this move why bill would do or close to it ? All the dissing about we don’t want to be like bill smh 😂😂
How can you judge this regime by one move without knowing what further and future moves.
@@osonhouston because if they don’t want be like bill they would’ve tag Micheal first
@@osonhouston our OL was bad and you mean to tell me your not gonna prioritize it on the first weeks of free agency? When every kept saying bill was urgent with important things
@@ElChema0719 How do you not know they aren't in talks with him now and are negotiating a contract.
@ElChema0719 Bill also left this team bereft of talent on the offensive side of the ball, so signing a DB is exactly what Bill will do.
See how stupid stringing words together without any thought looks.