Patriots Handling of Mac Jones was ATROCIOUS! - Felger & Mazz

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  • @YoshiMaeshiro
    @YoshiMaeshiro 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    If the NFL was like a regular job, Mac Jones could probably sue Bill Bellichick for some sort of labor violence.

  • @Jack-ms3so
    @Jack-ms3so 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    I am a big supporter of Belichick. But he blew it on Jones! A young QB needs consistency, competent coaching and encouragement. He needs to be given a line to protect him and competent receivers!

    • @youtubeconnollyfamily
      @youtubeconnollyfamily 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      First year he did good but after that when they messed around with all the coaching. It just messed everything up.

  • @CoryD_85
    @CoryD_85 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Drafting all defensive players last year was atrocious too. Not getting a young tight end in the draft even before Henry was atrocious this offense got so screwed. Reaching for scrubs 2years ago in the draft was atrocious

    • @fatpatlives1998
      @fatpatlives1998 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The defense was good while missing 2 of the best players

  • @markmccreadie6212
    @markmccreadie6212 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Here is reality. Mac was solid in his first year till the patriots took the training wheels off in the 2nd half of the year, then he was poor. He was horrendous in the playoff game, couldn't be much worse if he tried. I don't blame him much for season 2 but last year his decision making was horrendous, to where he was the worst qb in the nfl. Listen again, the worst qb in the nfl. He made bad decision after bad decision with the ball and that has nothing to do with coordinators, that's on Mac. He isn't a starting qb in the nfl, clearly and he won't be. Teams make mistakes in the draft the time, like trading a huge haul to get the Trey lance and then him being a total bust. That's 500 times worse than Mac jones

  • @jasonlebrun5474
    @jasonlebrun5474 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    He wasn't good enough ?!!!! Really.
    He made the pro bowl his rookie season. He's good enough.
    The patriots had a core of unbelievable coaches and staff for a Long time. Dante, Josh, Ernie and the list goes on and on and on. Their all gone now. Other staff and coaches came and went - but the guys Bill leaned on remained for a long time. They've all gone. Mac came as they were all heading out. He never had a good situation there.
    But, with Josh calling the plays - he made it to a pro bowl. Pretty damn good.

    • @ald7248
      @ald7248 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Pro Bowl selection is meaningless. Player selection is largely determined by fan vote. Heck, *Gardner Minshew* nearly made it this year.

  • @digitaltwizzlers8065
    @digitaltwizzlers8065 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You guys say the same shit every day and someone how earn a living wage for it. Unreal

  • @ThePuertoRican_Goat
    @ThePuertoRican_Goat 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I feel bad for him but it’s the nature of this game ruthless

    • @EastieRick
      @EastieRick 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      L😆L ruthless it’s not even, your one of those that think everything is amazing

  • @hbgrimmer850
    @hbgrimmer850 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    These guys are clowns. Like were supposed to forget all the crap they said about Mac up until the Patriots traded him. SMH.

  • @mtadams2009
    @mtadams2009 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is all on Bill. He runs Tom out of town, with absolutely no plan at the QB position. Bill then brings in Cam at the 11th hour. Bill treated the most important position on the field like it did not matter.

  • @SamUHells
    @SamUHells 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Let’s just hope the patriots actually acquire weapons for the next qb we draft. Cause if not it will be another 3 years of mediocrity

  • @Demarini71691
    @Demarini71691 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I don't care if Mac had Shanahan for 4 straight years that noodle arm can't throw outside the numbers and got exposed after just half a year in the NFL. He could never overcome that deficit. That led defenses to cheating making it harder for receivers to get separation. Mac doesn't have the composure or accuracy to make those throws.
    He would throw interceptions when attempting difficult throws making him hesitant for future throws, which amplified an already mediocre pass protection's deficiencies because he would hold on to the ball too long, which led to him having to deal with a collapsing pocket and again, he just didn't have the composure to deal with that shit. People always talk about him lacking confidence like it's the coaches fault. He lacked confidence because he was bad and he knew it. He knew he couldn't reliably make the throws that he had to attempt because whenever he did he would throw an interception.
    He's just simply not an NFL QB, you have to be able to make every throw in the NFL because if you can't, defenses that are already loaded with the best talent in the world will cheat and expose you further. It's too narrow of a margin to cut off half of your field like that in the league.
    Add on top of that his personality just...not being great. Was Patricia a good offensive coordinator? No, of course not...but it wasn't even a week into training camp and the team folded on the guy. A real leader would have rallied around the situation trying to work through it and overcome hardships instead of sowing seeds of discord throughout the offense. Mac abandoning the offense and Patricia led the entire offense to do same. And they were STILL one game from making the playoffs. Imagine if he didn't act like a bitch that year?

  • @conor2439
    @conor2439 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Coordinators change teams all the time. In college and NFL. That excuse for Mac makes no sense and is out of the control of the organization anyways. Mac does not have the physical tools, size, and temperament to be an NFL QB. The only thing he potentially had was game management and the ability to grow into being a QB that's a good decision maker, which is the area he regressed the most in '23. His ceiling was always as a backup.

    • @Mark-r2r9k
      @Mark-r2r9k 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      BS-Mac had the best Rookie QB season in recent history, and they were not that talented. Then in his second year you put a DC and ST coach as his position coached? Baffling. This was all on the Patriots and he is better off leaving that dumpster fire.

    • @John-ms6bv
      @John-ms6bv 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Was putting Matt Patricia and Joe Judge in place out of the organization’s hands? Or putting BoB in place a year later?
      Also, just because it happens elsewhere doesn’t negate the negative impacts. I have yet to hear an NFL coach or executive talk about the benefits to young QBs of rotating OCs every year.

  • @GarveyMustangMan
    @GarveyMustangMan 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    All on Bill, god awful personnel management.
    Three coordinators in 3 years, no player will ever have success with that inconsistency.

  • @Stezzone
    @Stezzone 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    People will say he was always bad and even if that it is true the problem is how we supported him so poorly that he legit got worse every year. Like if he really was already so bad then okay well dang but you would think he would still get better after every year but he got WORSE.

  • @johnhaversack1634
    @johnhaversack1634 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Patriot fans/media really want to draft a QB at 3 GIVEN that the Krafts went along with Bill destroying the Patriots last 1st round QB/offense as a whole. That is the real ? that needs answered.

  • @Rucarlos
    @Rucarlos 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    If Curran believes at best Mac could've been a top 12 QB, we should all thank Bill for expediting the process and ridding us from 10 years of mediocrity

    • @DMKFACTOR
      @DMKFACTOR 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yeah, it’s FANTASTIC that Bill RUINED AND WAISTED a 15th pick! It’s an UTTER DISGRACE!

    • @APTTMH_3
      @APTTMH_3 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂😂😂😂 he said top10

    • @dovo66
      @dovo66 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The mediocre QB was drafted by Belichick. He made the decision to bring Jones in and then he couldn't develop him, which in the end led to his own demise.

    • @APTTMH_3
      @APTTMH_3 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @dovo66 he made the decision to bring him in with the thought of him getting better and being a freaking professional. Mac was never a 1st round pick that could make his teammates better. I blame Bill for wasting the pick of him, but it's been revealed that Mac was Krafts pick no Bill. Bill was forced to make him work, but he quickly realized Mac was just a Jag so he proceeded to trade him after year 2. Kraft should have let him do that, Kraft intervened and threw Bill under the bus when the world realized that Mac was 💩. Media tried to change the narrative saying that Bill broke Mac, it's infuriating. For one how are you going to let a grown man break you, is Mac a man or a little boy? I'm so glad he's gone, it's been maddening dealing with him and his emotional fanboys

    • @dovo66
      @dovo66 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@APTTMH_3 Well, then there was an awful evaluation made by Belichick and other members of the team based on the arrogant and delusional belief that they could coach Jones' improvements. But after a grudge, Belichick decided to destroy the player's confidence.

  • @mikechan231
    @mikechan231 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Any draft pick can be set up to fail ANY DRAFT PICK, but especially the QB. The notion that somehow he should be able to overcome an untenable situation is how you get yourself into the same problem, again, which is why we when from 2022 to 2023 with zero weapons and zero O line. And a repeat disaster of a season. WRF is a pocket QB supposed to do. Yeah- glad our defense was ok but offensive was completely neglected year after year.

    • @a.p.980
      @a.p.980 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bill never liked the pick. I keep thinking back to the moment he was drafted. Bill asked around the room if everyone was ok with this

  • @garybird7474
    @garybird7474 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It’s on Belichick. Look how bad the offense is now. He screwed Mac.

  • @ponce1741
    @ponce1741 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    it was failed to draft him at 15 overal......it was obvious he didnt have the talent to be middle of the 1 round QB....you only draft at 1 round a QB propsect with something elite, mac didnt have anything

  • @kennethchen319
    @kennethchen319 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Where did Murray come from?! it was McBone one minute and then Murray!

  • @peterjacoby8019
    @peterjacoby8019 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    picking qb's based on physical talent is how brady fell so far.
    seriously Felger, did brady wow you with his talent? you'd have been calling brady a system guy hahaha

    • @Demarini71691
      @Demarini71691 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Brady had a ton of physical talent, though. He didn't have speed or quickness but he could throw darts in windows that only 1 or 2 other QBs in the league could.

    • @ts9332
      @ts9332 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      When they were winning SuperBowls in the beginning they said it was all because of Belichicks coaching. Near the end, they flipped the narrative to run Bill out of town. This is an old media tactic and I'm surprised that people still fall for it in 2024.

    • @afmartin2734
      @afmartin2734 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Felger and Mazz are the two biggest frauds in the history of sports radio. Mac Jones is an entitled whiny turd. That's the problem. BB didn't even want Mac Jones. It was a Kraft pick. Kraft even blocked BB trying to trade him after 2022.

    • @cc352
      @cc352 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Demarini71691while Brady's arm has certainly been under-rated, let's face it, it's his mental processing of the game that sets him apart which no combine would show until you get into a real game situation.

  • @smuj77
    @smuj77 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    He was a B level talent wise and the turned him into a D-

  • @gregoryphillips3969
    @gregoryphillips3969 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Joe Gibbs won the Super Bowl with 3 different quarterbacks. Bill Belichick can't do anything without Brady and he's supposed to be the greatest coach of all time. What a joke.
    Belichick is a defensive coordinator who got lucky and then he walks around like he's king of the world even after he's been totally exposed.

  • @ald7248
    @ald7248 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yes, they mishandled Jones. But my sympathy for Mac is somewhat reduced by the ugly & inconvenient truth that a 5th round, talent-less, scrub of a backup QB *did* manage to outperform him when given the starter role. Parting ways was the right thing to do and the underwhelming Lawrence may yet give Jones a 2nd act.

  • @cc352
    @cc352 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    With the exception of Lawrence, I think that entire QB class of 2021 went into bad situations that may ultimately be career-defining unfortunately for them. What I mean with TL is that he was not mismanaged (post Urban Meyer) but still underwhelming so far.

  •  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Belichick messed this whole quarterback thing up with the Patriots from Brady to Jones, I can't blame the Krafts for trusting in Belichick because he was successful in the past but he failed them on this one.

  • @Tsepete
    @Tsepete 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why is so hard to understand that most players don't pan out in the NFL? Mac Jones is a bust. And if his decision making last season didnt show you then you are blinded by your Mac Jones cult membership.

  • @FantasySportsZen
    @FantasySportsZen 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As if you guys didn't crush the kid and make jokes all the way through. These guys make me sick, honestly. Who listens to this anymore????

  • @merc1248
    @merc1248 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    “Commanding presence & good arm” = Joe Milton III

  • @brucehartman7605
    @brucehartman7605 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That’s BS… Mac quit right after his injury in 2022.. watch the film… he was never the same…

  • @markoneil5279
    @markoneil5279 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As a big fan of Bill, the reality is that his management of the offense after Brady left was utter and complete negligence.

  • @gregoryphillips3969
    @gregoryphillips3969 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Belichick's good luck is totally tied to the fact that he had Tom Brady as his quarterback.

  • @youtubeconnollyfamily
    @youtubeconnollyfamily 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Also, I like what they’re doing right now. Spending some money to build around their new young quarterback. Bringing in Gibson was good. Give the young QB a quick weapon to throw to. When needed.

  • @EastieRick
    @EastieRick 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I hope Mac takes the Jags to the Super Bowl.

  • @JoseVargas-lx6up
    @JoseVargas-lx6up 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    In bill we trust 😂😢

  • @martinalbert29
    @martinalbert29 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They handled him badly. But if he was good he would have handled it fine.

  • @joeytrees
    @joeytrees 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mac played terrible and ran out of excuses four games into the season

  • @chanorando
    @chanorando 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm way late to this party but many QBs don't fail alone. That nails it describing Mac Jones experience as a Patriot. As a native Pats fan, I was disgusted by the mismanagement. At the very least, his opportunity to succeed was ruined by mishandling. At worst he was very possibly a victim of intentional sabotage by a vindictive HC. IMO, Belichick is a hypocrite. Belichick expects EVERYONE ELSE to be accountable and team driven so, WHY ISN'T HE??!! I put the blame squarely on COACHING for the decline of Mac. Let's not forget Mac's success.
    Season 1: Made Playoffs @ 10-7 and pro-bowl alternate: That doesn't happen by accident in the NFL! Mac wasn’t flawless but deficiencies were completely coachable.
    Season 2: He loses a great OC, replaced by a couple meathead yes men with NO Offensive credibility!... Couple that with head scratching, uncomplimentary, offensive schemes/gameplans. Add the HC undermining Mac's confidence by benching him after ONE interception in a game! W*F!! How many other HCs would bench the starter after ONE interception early in a game??!! Answer: NONE!!
    Season 3: Under "sink or swim" duress with another questionable meathead OC, more inexplicable schemes/gameplans, and no support from an uncommunicative dis-engaged HC!! Recipe for failure ONLY!
    Was Mac Jones at all responsible for his decline? The answer is: MINIMALLY! Yes, he is high strung and impatient. Yes, he lost the team by calling out teammates for perceived failures. Yes, he was guilty of being a young immature player who made some poor decisions. None of those things were good, but he was understandably frustrated in dealing with an UNTENABLE situation!! I wish the best of success to Mac and my personal apology. I am embarrassed by what my team did to him. He should have had a 4th Pats year with a legit chance to thrive…
    It's abundantly clear that Belichick is a brilliant Narcissist. He's the best defensive mind the game has ever seen, but he has NO respect for offense and offensive players, and NO respect for the Owner that employs him. He has repeatedly undermined what was best for the team while claiming otherwise. Sitting Malcolm Butler in SB 52 threw ALL Players under the Bus! How was that best for the TEAM?! Players are human and all different. It's a HC duty to manage personalities and CREATE an atmosphere of SUCCESS for overall TEAM benefit! Ruining the starting QB consciously or unconsciously because he isn't "your guy" is Textbook NARCISSISM and absolutely NOT what is “BEST” for the TEAM!
    Belichick does what is best for his EGO! He may have cut his football teeth under Navy Athletics, and he may THINK he runs a team modeled on the military, but he does NOT! He FORGOT that EVERY serviceman swears an oath and is accountable to a higher authority! The Admiral or General, may not agree with or even respect The President, but it's their duty to their country to follow orders and to NEVER undermine or subvert “The Boss” or the MEN under their command. Belichick should never again be trusted with a HC position. He's borderline megalomaniacal, and a cancer in any position of authority. I would hire him as a DC with very minimal authority only.
    IMO, players were willing to endure the "Belichick Way" because they believed TB12 ensured a legitimate SB shot year after year. Yes, the defenses were equally important to the repeated success, but The GOAT was the GLUE that held it all together. When the glue dissolved, it unsurprisingly fell apart.

    • @JasonBrown-z5y
      @JasonBrown-z5y 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Best summary I've heard well done 👍

  • @DM-mp6gq
    @DM-mp6gq 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bill is totally to blame! His roster management undermined the team. He will never get a head coaching job in the NFL.

  • @jbloun911
    @jbloun911 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Billy the B strikes again!

  • @michdico9591
    @michdico9591 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They didn't do right by Mac. Never gave him a chance. And they knew that he needed resources, but didn't give it to him. Matthew Stafford might have a great arm, but he didn't do anything until he go the resources in LA. And let's forget this "Get a guy in the 3rd Round" nonsense. Have you seen the history of 3rd round QBs? These guys can't read defenses. That's why they are picked in the 3rd round. Next guy will need to get lots of support.

    • @cc352
      @cc352 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      99% of the time that would be true. But every once in a while you get QBs like Purdy and Russ Wilson that gets teams to look for those hidden gems.

    • @michdico9591
      @michdico9591 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@cc352 yes, but can't count on finding those hidden gems when you need them.

  • @kelseykjarsgaard5774
    @kelseykjarsgaard5774 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yup after his rookie year

  • @APTTMH_3
    @APTTMH_3 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    😂 i get they must do this for clicks but man these dudes gotta know better.

  • @winsonboss1240
    @winsonboss1240 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mac Jones, Clark Kent who never turned into Superman....

    • @user-vg2eg7oo5n
      @user-vg2eg7oo5n 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Closer to Jimmy Olsen.

  • @jasonrutherford4453
    @jasonrutherford4453 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    enough mac jones my gosh

  • @ApocalypseKurtz
    @ApocalypseKurtz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mac would never be a top 12 QB.

    • @ald7248
      @ald7248 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Truth.

  • @yournewbestfriend8149
    @yournewbestfriend8149 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tom Curran should stick to reporting, rather than analysis. His takes tend yo be wrong, more often than not.

  • @sleigh4019
    @sleigh4019 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    No mazz your right don't take 200 pick wait another year get nothing ..seems they saw the righting on the wall and got few bucks back ..I agree mismanaged ...but getting away from bad situation is smart

  • @dwayneroberts6616
    @dwayneroberts6616 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mac Jones is a back up QB at best. I have seen so much film of that guy not even seeing wide open recievers. Waiting to long to deliver the ball and running into defenders trying to roll out of the pocket. He's terrible he's got a weak arm bad footwork out of shape tennis body. I'll take whatever QB falls to NE in the 3rd slot and be ecstatic. Anyone of the top 3 QB this draft are heads and shoulders better than Mac noodle arm Jones. I'll take Daniels or Maye thank you. Either one will be good in this league given time to develop. Most young QB struggle or completely fail being tossed right into the NFL. Bring a veteran bridge QB in and build the team while you teach your franchise QB. Let the kid take over when he's peaking.

  • @ral3514
    @ral3514 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a bears fan I can really relate

  • @johnhaversack1634
    @johnhaversack1634 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Patriots better get this draft/FA RIGHT...if not...get used to 2..3..4 win seasons until further notice. BET.

  • @sleigh4019
    @sleigh4019 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Felger right ..top 12 ..I think jimmy G was a much better player by miles on this team..solid QB let d hold and go 10-12 wins and maybe make couple great runs

  • @petercole8798
    @petercole8798 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hey Mazz Who never played football. S T F U Lawrence sucks too why ...they go to awful teams. 😞. We will be back this year.. Wildcard.

  • @winsonboss1240
    @winsonboss1240 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    51-49 Pats management/coach at fault....

  • @jayy88
    @jayy88 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Felger is just mad because he thought Mac was good.

    • @afmartin2734
      @afmartin2734 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yep. And, he over-dramatizes everything to target BB. Mac Jones needed to be held accountable and he refused to take any responsibility. The tell is that Zappe looked the same with Patricia and O'Brien. Mac was way worse with O'Brien, even with a good run game.

  • @marktyers1248
    @marktyers1248 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where’s Murray?

  • @st.anthony1134
    @st.anthony1134 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bill and Kraft screwed Mac. They failed Mac. It's hard to even root for the Patriots after this. He wasn't a baby like you say. He was frustrated and embarrassed. I couldn't imagine how he felt going through some of that crap. I hope he haunts the Patriots. screw Bill, cheap Kraft, and the Patriots. Go JAGS.

  • @tomascarlsson1856
    @tomascarlsson1856 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Always wrong sound these jokes

  • @alexanderoubre1959
    @alexanderoubre1959 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    BB built an archaic culture that was unable to cater to a Gen Z QB prospect. Any QB the Pats pick they will struggle to develop because their culture is from the 1980’s Bill Parcels era. They needed a fresh start at head coach, and instead they hired Mayo, a guy who no other team would have hired as a coordinator. This community knows shockingly little about football, if Mac jones couldn’t succeed here, what makes these people think they can develop a kid like Drake Maye with less natural talent, lower IQ, and who struggled for long stretches in an inferior conference? Mac wasn’t the problem. They patriots culture is no longer relevant in the modern era when every prospect needs kid gloves.

  • @Jessdogg-j1i
    @Jessdogg-j1i 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When Mac gets his chance this szn he is going to ball out and all the haters are going to eat a big piece of humble pie courtesy of Mac F'N Jones ba ba!

  • @jolyonyates3898
    @jolyonyates3898 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is great analysis by Felger 👏 I wish he did this instead of trolling Patriots fans 🧌