@joke no need to go at their house we can already predict it tho. Otherwise, you're not Asian so you wouldn't know how our parents literally have 2 difference face.... supportive only when infront of many people, but when not.... uuhh u know lah
THANK YOU! Some of the most successful people on the planet do not have college degrees, let alone high school diplomas. Granted, some careers require college such as the medical field.
Do you expect universities to handpick students? Anyways chances are the universities know a lot are going to fail so they will make the minimum mark lower
Yes! This is societal pressure. People think once removed from this environment, even if parents give no pressure in a new society, it goes away. But it doesn't. I immigrated a long time ago. This unspoken pressure is still present. It's been difficult to adapt to living without this pressure... I see my cousins raise their second generation immigrant children. They really don't have this pressure and live completely carefree. 🤦 I don't know if this self added pressure is a +/- thing. 😅
Plus if you tried your hardest and put all you could, that's all that really matters right? You did your best, but it's just not one if your strong points and that's okay. I dont mean to be condescending, as I'm not too great at keeping up with schoolwork at all 😅
That's the whole point of school you study not for knowledge but for that piece of paper. I prefer self education because it helps me to improve that's why I love the library and the internet more than school itself.
Or you can also asia as whole. Our parents and the society put too much stress on us to do our best. I'm now living canada but the stress of going to school is still there
The parents from 2:30 made me tear up a little. Everyone needs supportive and loving parents during these challenging times. Hope everyone will hold their head up high regardless of their grades. Remember: some geniuses didn't do well at school so don't let this test define you.
i totally agree with you, im from the UK and when A-level (grades that determine whether you get accepted into your university) results came out , my parents were too busy and i can understand that but i died a little seeing my friends and their supportive parents. The fact that i got A*AAA didnt matter to me anymore. I think more parents should be supportive than imposing their standards on their children because we are human and we do have feelings.
My mom was so dissapointed everytime I get low grades, believe it or not Asian parents care more about grades and how you present yourself to society than their child's mental health.
Imagine getting back the marks for a test you've prepared for for over 2 years, knowing that it literally decides your future, and getting a low grade. If that situation happened to me I'd jump off a bridge right away. No wonder why these types of tests are harmful for student's mental health
you can give the test again but thats like dropping a year? And that year becomes the most depressing ones because everyone you know your age is already in the colleges they wanted and you are just stuck
One more thing is that the results will literally decide their fate therefore they will likely to be stressed about it while reviewing and wont perform well
@@janicesee__ fighting❗ I genuinely hope that you pass, I have to take my exams too next year... let's do our best together😊 But first I need my results back from my math test, it's killing me😔 JAN‼️ UPDATE I PASSED, let's both do our best next year kay😁✊
As a teacher in the US, this breaks my heart. Students you are more than a test score! You are a human being and you are so important to the world. Your life has meaning and is valid. It hurts me to know that countries outside of the states put so much emphasis on what you score determines the path you take in life. I took the SAT and bombed everything, but the essay. I ended up attending a junior college (2 year institution) then transferring to my University to complete my BA. I graduated with a BA in History and a Social Studies composite teaching certification with honors in 2019 and just landed a teaching position in December. I love my school, I love my job. I love my kids. My parents did not force me to choose a career. While people told me I would never be happy because I would not make enough money, my parents and my friends encouraged me to pursue a career that would make me happy. You should enjoy your secondary education and enjoy your college experience. And do not be afraid to change your path if you come to discover the career you thought you wanted it not what you truly want to do. And if your parents, family, teachers, or professors never told you this, then let me say it. “You should be proud of the hard work you are putting in or have put in to reach you goal. Be proud of the mistakes, hardships and trials you have faced or are facing, because those will make you grow. You are doing this for you, your happiness, your future, no one else’s”. -Ms. Lotre A high school World Geography and Economics teacher from Texas, USA.
The kids who hate it are probably are in the class of lazy, undisciplined, rebellious or video game addicts. For the hard working kids, it is the best social mobility system in any society.
@@87togabito literally one of the top scorers in this vid talks about how liberal studies isnt brainwashing and is an important topic... isnt that pretty "snowflake-y"? Lol.
@太邪太恶了犹太佬 that is definitely not true uneducated learn the facts. People have to work hard their whole life's so no westerns do not have it easy I've met people who live paycheck to paycheck in America. The whole world is messed up no country is perfect there will always be people who suffer sadly this is the reality 😔
太邪太恶了犹太佬 “westerners have it easy” until we go to the emergency room for 15 minutes and proceed to get billed thousands of dollars to the point people file for bankruptcy
Nope delete that thought.. I have worked way too hard since last 2 yrs to get into an nice engineering college in India which is pretty tough.. But my dad always told me that life is also beyond yours marks.
School shouldn’t be this stressful. Finland has a much, much less strict attitude towards testing, etc and yet they consistently show that they have the best schooling on Earth.
I agree that they should mitigate the stress level, unfortunately Finland and China can’t be comparisons when it comes to education due to massive population differences
I mean these high school parents should know their own kids ability by now so if they actually know that their kid is failing school then they wouldn’t have high expectations. Not saying that this is true for everyone.
I’ve personally learned how to not let my grades demolish my mental health and my emotions. it’s not the end, there is so much more life outside of education
The thing is education decides most of your future and exams and tests will remain a key component of your education and it decides which university you go to Going to a higher level university means more resources, better facilities, more competitiveness, better teachers and most importantly more career opportunities especially to work in higher-level businesses and or institutes It'll make life a whole lot better But yeah preparing for exams is stressful We have an 8th grade entrance exam and most top high-school’s will only accept admission for top students and remember it's high school admission not university Prep for most students begins in around end of 6th grade or beginning of 7th grade and it's stressful af cause firstly it's a hard paper, secondly the grading and marking is very strict, the timing given is also not that much so you have to be fast, there's also a lot of stress and it's extremely competitive putting a lot of stress especially for top students
@@Kakashi-ck9tp what you’ve said makes sense and I partially agree. It’s also important to understand that there are other streams and means that can support your life as well outside of higher education. Education is fundamental yes however it shouldn’t be the sole reason that your life is miserable and you’re battling depression and anxiety amongst other things. We need to allow people to be outside of standardized tests and classes.
Yes..I'm Asian to..but my mom in another level..didn't want continue study? Great..I won't forcing my girls to do whatever they didn't want to..but make sure u find ur husb rich enough to support your life..
This is how it is for us Americans too. It’s truly sad. I get a f and I’m scolded, I get a c and I’m still scolded. I get a B or an A and all I get is “I’m surprised you actually passed”....
Probably not. America has different values. They don’t view people who only study as qualified. They rather get people who are well rounded and active in their community
@@kevinnguyen8631 totally. and even when these students are scoring great marks. It doesnt really say weather they are best at that subject, maybe they've just memorised it and would probably forget it
@@phenomenalphysics3548 It's only in the us where subjects are only about memorising, in most countries you have complecated think where you need to think
To be completely honest, it's a very fine line between stern discipline and outright mental abuse. Where do we draw the line is a serious question we all need to answer
one time a foreign exchange student came to our class and finished a math test that had an hour to complete in 5 MINUTES. the teacher asked him, “how did you finish already?” and he said “too easy”
Saw the title and immediately felt really anxious and stressed. I can't even imagine how stressed they are, I feel very lucky that here we aren't put under that much stress. Exams in Asia are no joke... I wish the very best for those who didn't do as well as they wished, also for those who did well. But it breaks my heart knowing there are people who would be devastated by their results.
I think it's either you spend your entire life and focus on one exam or like in America, over many different things such as extracurriculars, SAT, GPA and et cetera.
@@mayas1655 Here in NZ they aren't the most important thing in highschool, we focus on getting through the year with enough credits. Exams are important but they don't mean everything
@@ashbutminier Not from america but as an outsider looking in, it seems like who knows you and who you know matters much more there. They pay for connections rather than education, I think. Someone pls correct me if im wrong lol Edit: grammar
Inure it is a feature of all capitalist countries, even China is reliant on connections when you’re at the top of the capitalist system but the people at the bottom of the system will study hard to climb to the top. (China is basically capitalism but they just call themselves socialists)
I swear, I was in 10th grade in highschool and everything was just so easy (Im from Germany,)😂 Englisch Ap, yes, Biologie for 11th grader, here I go, oh look a subject I never had and dont understand, still A And when the exams were, everyone was like "I have to learn or else I will fail" "it will be difficult"..... an exam where you just have to choose between 4 answers is easy (they should change that bc it doesnt prepare you for life where you have to write WHOLE essays/texts + I heard in college you have to do so)
I got my DSE results last year, and I broke down in tears as soon my eyes laid upon the results. I’d been revising for months and months before the exam and I still got horrible results. It’s affected me so much in the past year and both my physical and mental health have deteriorated immensely. The education system is honestly terrible, although effective. If you’re a parent, don’t raise your child in Hong Kong unless you want to give them lifelong trauma.
I got poor grades in high school including failing maths and I still got into a top 100 ranked University. If I was in Hong Kong I'd probably have to be a janitor or something, it's crazy how competitive asian countries are
Similar story as yours. My brother failed in the HK exam but my mom gave him a tiny amount of money to go study in a community college in the US. He rode a bike to school and worked at Denny's to support himself. To make the story short, he founded a company that became a Fortune 500 company.
@Anna Lee, On the contrary, you get ahead because of education, without relying on one source of information. In east asia: "Yeah I didn't make the cut for this top university, time to work as a janitor as at best I'll be mediocre" In the west: "Yeah I didn't make the cut for this top university, let's create a business around what I wanted to study, and learn as I operate it".
@@justinf.5688 Hong Kong is artificially kept small so that real estate prices can stay high, I mean it's more than 50% unused due to the government, but if such a huge amount of people can live there, then even universities shouldn't have a problem.
Karen luvs Jesus I understand bro. I never needed college or certain grades in high school for the life I am striving for. Being more successful than anyone can get out of any degree. Anyone can succeed if they look outside of what the world and parents teaches them to be
@@enea_7280 well realistically speaking people in the top colleges have better chances of getting a job as their college signifies they can work hard. Others in different colleges have a much harder time getting a job and either have to settle for very low paying jobs or find something else, especially in a country overflowing with engineers. There's not a lot of focus on vocational training as a realistic career.
Updatesys we all have stress and watching these students stressed me out just to see how hard and important these tests are. No judgement and non biased so chill!
You know what's the bitter truth of society everyone talk about celebrities' struggle but no one talks about students' struggle which I think is the hardest sitting on a chair for like 10-12 hrs doing that thing which we don't like i. e. study no one likes to study...
@@darkdelphin834 Yeah.. Actually if you've interest in something than it'd be easy for you... So yeah basically if you wanna achieve something than first you've to fall in love with that...For example for me Physics and Maths are not a subject they're emotions.. 😅
@@darkdelphin834well heres the thing not all that you learn interest you. Some make you bored and you have to study even if it is against your free will.
It's a all girls school they even showed a pic where boys are toppers some schools have separate classrooms for girls and boys also many schools take girl toppers and boys toppers pictures separately. But actually Asian girls take education very seriously as they think that's the only way to proof themselves in society because in China/Hong Kong boys where preferred over girls so many girls put alot of effort in exams.
My parents tried to pressure me on my studies before, hoping to improve my grades. But I'm too hard headed af, my parents gave up pressuring me eventually lol.
this sounds incredibly ridiculous but i actually sobbed when the boy was being comforted by his parents and even had his dad acknowledge his hard work. some of us aren't that fortunate with supportive parents. sorry for going off in a rant.
It's more stressful in HK because there's only a handful of Universities but one of the densest cities in the world. Best of luck, from the mainland, guys. We don't always see eye to eye but the stress of tests unite us.
VPN, my dude. And no, no one care about it, contrary to western belief. They only care when people commit crimes. The police here are more like...how do you say it...community helpers. They didnt even carry guns until a couple years ago after that terrorist attack at the train station.
People laughing and making jokes about this makes me disgusted. You dont know how stressful it is to not only have such a huge burden and concern about your future but your parents' expectations of you as well. It's never just about the scores.
@Mike Jack you may not be like that but parents concerns are more likely the reasons why students study. Some doesn't want to let their parents down and some are downright scared about their parents
Mike Jack Darling, you’ll never understand Asian culture so why bother? Everyone is fighting their own battle that you’re not aware of so, until you have something nice to say, shut your mouth.
@@husenpr You just dont understand. You are lucky even your smart there's alwalys people that smarter and more diligent than you. I felt the same when I was in senior high school. 76 score isnt Bad right? Wrong!!! When everyone scores 80-90 even 100 mark! Teacher making us more stress comparing our result. Welcome to Asia btw.
@@七海千秋-e9i let me tell you that school will be over someday, and you will be free from that toxic environment, until then hang in there, you're not alone!! :')
IncinerateZ turns out admission to one of the best universities in the world requires more than pure academics. In Cambridge they expect more from their students. In reality more than half the knowledge you gain throughout high school will be unused through university, the majority of your schooling is more important as a sign that you are capable of learning difficult concepts/ applying yourself rather than just the amount of knowledge you can retain.
This is literally happening all over Asia not only in China, Japan and Korea. When I took my college entrance exam and did not meet my parents expectation I cried because I felt my hardwork is not enough and my parents were disappointed at me.
You worked hard and that is what counts ❤️ Trust me. If you work hard. You will make it one way or another but if you give up. Then you shall never make it. This is late, but you can do it and life is much more than just tests and exams. You will realise it. Your parents should have been happy for you because you worked hard. It's rare to find people who are hardworking and especially when they are not planning to give up. You can do it. What helps me is planning a goal. A goal you really want to accomplish. So when you think: 'I can't do this anymore' or 'I will never make it'. Think about that goal you really want to accomplish. I hope this helped you!
I live in Asia and I know the feeling, what’s worse is that my parents always bring me down every time my scores are not what my parents expected, it’s like I have to reach their expectations in order to be successful, but I don’t want that, I have another dream. I wish my parents appreciate talent instead of scores. I do this sport and I really want to go to the Olympics but I don’t think it’s possible because my parents are gonna choose my future, not me. I really hope my parents start changing
Sometimes I wish I had talent. In the toppers girls school most of them are very intelligent, always get straight As, some kind of whole Hong Kong champion in sports, at least reached grade 8 in an instrument by age 10, won awards in Visual Arts. Yep, talent matters the most here
This is true, I live in ph and when I got a low score on exam, I can't get my hands on my cellphone so I always study and got top in class. I just study for me to play games because I always fight in online tournaments and playing is really my passion.
It's same in India too...The competition for a seat in prestigious college is so tough. And In entrance exams like NEET, JEE main and Jee advance, the selection rate is only about 2-3% and almost around 10- 16 lakh appears each year.
@@bellecwy yep even Harvard is 5 percent even mit has 8 percent but in indoa ,china the acceptance rate is sometime even less than 1%. As of 10,000 are selected out of 1.5 to 2 million students . And Except these colleges other college degree has no value its zero beacuse these are the only options or even other options are there but falling these breaks you too much with society pressure that you can even do anything .
@@manasa7351 Yeah...And right now I am crying because I just missed a medical seat by 2 marks😭😭😭... I will try again next year... It hurts knowing all my hardwork just go in vain 😭
@@ipshita12345 aw I'm so sorry!! You tried your best that matters more (ik how this society is) All the best for your 2nd attempt! I'm sure you'll rock it!!!💕
yeah Indians are asians too....and i will say the pressure is same on me......it is not easy...not at all....i am preparing for JEE Advanced 2022...i have wasted my 6 months already.....and am struggling...i hope for best in 2021
Well do you want them to keep mentioning all those countries everytime, I mean everyone knows not all Asians are the same but saying they are Asians is easier and shorter
Whatever the results, I just hope that these students got a "Congratulations/it's okay, we know you did your best. We're proud of you." *Edit: Btw to everyone who feels discouraged or pressured rn, I'm here along with others to tell you that it's okay and still, congratulations. We know you did your best and we're proud of you! Take heart, stay healthy, and be safe 😃
@@stormintheshell5130 yeah, it's a sad reality especially in our world where expectations and pressure exist. But for now, we can just hope they did and if not, well then we're here 😃
@@shineeshome Agree. But as long as there is that chance where expectations and pressure may cause bad stuff, I guess a few kind words or an ear wouldn't hurt 😁. And yeah, I guess my idea of expectations and pressure being a sad reality may have resulted from experience where even if it helps you excel for example, sometimes it doesn't really make yoy happy or satisfied. But oh well, it's just my opinion hehe and this isn't for me to disagree with you btw 😅 We all have our ways of dealing with things and thanks for pointing that out 😁
@@shineeshome too much pressure though can have major negative effects like mental issues and suicide. There is a thin line that many parents and teachers go over, but it's hard to say where that line is
Not really. They’re parents will be disappointed and worried for their futures, because they don’t want a hard life for their children. These marks influence not only the parents happiness but the kid is intrinsically motivated to do well too.
As an Asian i know how it feels our exams marks is everything for us . We not only have exam stress but loads of comparing with either our elder siblings or relative's children if we get less than them we are literally considered as black spot of family We are judged by our exam results not by how productive we are in our daily lives
This reminds me every day of that kid I once knew in my graduating high school class that committed suicide because he got a low score on the SAT & ACT...mind you his parents had super high expectations and controlled every aspect of his life from who he talked too and really honestly they cared more about the name of the college he would get into rather than his health. They wanted to brag that their child made it into this prestigious ivy league school. I remember the kid being like a blank paper, people knew his situation and became friends with him & talked. But he ignored everyone as if he didn't care...I never not think about this kid every day and if the circumstances were better he'd still be alive today.
Man, I nearly vomited the day I had to take one of my AP exams. I wasn’t even studying European History for my future, but my anxiety levels were through the roof.
Elizabeth Spain AP exams are super low stakes though. They don’t really affect your future. They could be nerve wracking, yes, but the AP text at its worst is a score you can ignore and its best is something you can boast about and perhaps get college credit before. The worst isn’t even that bad
I know! That’s why I can’t even imagine taking one of these tests that is very important for my future. Because I can’t lie to myself and say, if I fail, it won’t harm me in any way.
@Karen luvs Jesus Sometimes I'm jealous of western society. Teens over there have so much carreer choices and picking a non-STEM course doesn't seem to be frowned upon in the west. Here in Asia, society pushes everyone to go on the same path(like choosing STEM courses) even if a person doesnt fit in those courses.
@@James-wt5uh mine is just no going out for at least 3 weeks, the cold shoulder from my parents and the classic slipper or hanger...whichever they choose
@@James-wt5uh I remember that one time when I was in 8th grade. I was studying in a science high school in the Philippines. And each grade was divided into five sections based on our academic performance each year. We were ranked in every subject, classroom, and by the whole batch. I was in section three at that time and I was usually ranked as top 6. That quarter though, my rank dropped to top 16. My parents threatened to send me to a common public high school, took away my phone for about two months, reduced the amount of my monthly allowance by half (forever), got a 3 hour scolding, and questioned my ability to study and become successful in the future 🙃
If I compare this to my german a level exams I feel so guilty. Not gonna flex or anything but I passed with ease and only studied like a month before the great exams. The way education is forced onto chinese teenagers is so wrong. Life isn’t a competition. It’s a constant journey of growth. And one should chose how to do so.
@@b_kby Auf jeden fall, guter punkt. Ich wusste halt was ich studieren wollte und wusste das der schnitt irrelevant ist. Leider ist das in asiatischen Ländern nicht so. Da musst du dich abakern weil es nur einen weg zum "erfolg" gibt
The future isn't just a piece of paper. One has to achieve the future they want by their own experience and guts, and not by scoring high points in a exam. What's important in life is knowing how to be happy, and how to live happily.
Oblivion[2] That high points in exam gets you to the best colleges which will entail you to get better connections with big companies. This will result with you having a better chance at high paying jobs meaning if you wanna succeed you better try harder. Working hard won’t always get you to succeed. Working 12 hour shifts 5 days a week at Mcdonalds because you dropped out of high school won’t get you to succeed.
Imagine a test so hard that you actually need companion dogs to help you not have a mental breakdown and they take interviews of you if you pass the test.
I got 88% here in Pakistan scored 98 out of 100 in Advanced Math (equivalent to Add Maths of A level Oxford) also scored 96 in Biology 97 in Physics but couldn't handle the pressure in chemistry and scored 71 out of 100% and 74 in English and some low in non science subjects and here now I am not eligible for Med school so now I have to repeat my second year again 😔(I have offers from Australia National University and Bradford Oxford but cannot get a seat in any med school out of tens of in my city plus I m broke!!
IDK...Saying your entire future lies in a sheet of paper in one exam is a bit out there...Should focus on accumulating skills and experience instead, not memorizing 50,000 pages for one exam, which immediately forget after!...
That's true here in the west but as someone with friends from China I have heared enough, their entire future does depend on that test, if they don't get into the top colleges they end up in a community College and get a low salary job due to china's huge population
Yay, tell this to the school, the bosses and society , as long as this is the easiest and laziest way to determine a person, they will keep being what they are
You should live in Asian countries because as an Asian, we are judged by our exam results plus the expectations of your parents. Add if you have smart friends who can ace an exam with just an hour of review. Expectations, future life and more expectations is what exam papers always remind me. And if you failed, you'll feel isolated, idk if some of y'all feel that way but I feel that way when a time I failed a test.
Asian parents always compare you to the smartest people in the school/area. So if you want to avoid a very long lecture and scolding, your results do depend on that "piece of paper". Also that "piece of paper" helps you decide your future, do you want to be scrubbing floors on the streets or working for a multinational corporation? It's up to that "piece of paper". Think before you talk
I got mediocre results for my national exam. I remember how nonchalant most of the teachers were upon knowing what I got. But two most meaningful things happened on that day, one the teacher of my weakest subject was the only one that literally cheered for me and I didnt even get an A for his subject. Second, my parent were so happy for me as if I got excellent result, we even celebrated with dining at expensive restaurant which my family usually wouldnt and couldnt go to. I might not get achieve excellence in my academic performance, but I learn that there are more beautiful things in life other than that.
Southeast Asia here. I graduated from elite school. My school is rank 1 in region since elementary till high school. Half scholarship in bachelor degree. Full scholarship in master degree. And here I'am jobless. Playing League and PoE all day since graduate. Paper and tittle doesn't decide your future. For sure. But nowadays in spare time from gaming all the times (gamer is I'am). I do my own research paper to apply for some money and have my own gift shop to pay my daily expenses also I take courses in basic Japanese Language N5 (so it's study time again). So in the end its my own efforts to break this jobless stalemate. *Play Kimetsu no Yaiba opening song*
I’m a South Korean student in America. I was born and raised in America but with more traditional values and respects of Korea and Eastern Asia. Even in American schools, where I’m expected by my family, my classmates, my teachers, and the current society we live in to outperform the norm- it becomes very overwhelming. At many points I convinced myself to have abnormally high expectations for myself, and there were also many times where all I could think about was my inferiority, and how much I would want to die (passively). I’m going into only my junior year of high school. But with a new outlook. Covid-19 is running rampant, school is even stranger than it was, and I still hate everything about the education institution. Just so far, if there’s anything I’ve learned over the past 6 years, is that students before my age should live their lives and middle and high schoolers doing the things they love. Don’t waste your time worrying about trivial things like I did. Your educational experience in school is only a fraction of a fraction of what the years to come will bring.
America taught the world this, but they accepted everything else, except for what matters. The students know that they dont have a life. Myself included, I go to classes that go from 6 am to 11.30 pm, mostly with just a hour for lunch. All this for a piece of paper,
The schooling system is unnatural, it was created to train young people to do what they're told and prepare them to work in factories. We should be learning through mentorships and apprenticeships, learning the trades of our father/mother/family or training with a mentor/scholar in small groups of 10 or less. The modern schooling system is focused more on scores than on actual learning.
@@JeffieDabs the thing is can you imagine what was happening closed doors tho like we never really know how much a struggle or even pressure they had to ace them
" *Some students came away very satisfied* " Literally from every class that one Albert Girl!- " *Not everyone was happy with their results* " Half of the school-_-
As a American student i feel respect to all countries who have this much stress in their lives, even though I’m only just going to high school in August I hope I don’t get stressed out.
As a student who has been through the hkdse, it’s true that the result of this exam will have a huge influence on your future...ppl studied really hard for this so it’s not “just an exam” to us, it’s three yrs of hard work, tears and an entire bookshelf of notes...therefore it’s normal for us to be emotional
me an asian: "yes. I know life is way more important. I know, papers don't determine your path in life. Anything can happen" also me: *cries internally*
I remember having my first 50% exam result on my test back in 4th grade and it felt like I wanted to move to a new house or to an island where no one would find me with that failure. Yeah, the house was VERY VERY LIVELY when they found out.
There's an artist who need not get full mark Chemistry There's an entrepreneur who's English marks wont matter This exams are important but dont let them judge who you are.Please know that *Life is a serious business, but it is not meant to live seriously*
This video got recommended to me today right before my exam tmr, oh what a great timing, I’m now form 4 (high school, grade ten? I think ?) in HK and I’m already so scared/stressed that I would fail in this exam, and, in the future, DSE exam. Best of luck to all of you and I’m rooting for anyone who’s going through tough time, we can do this :D !!
@@rinnzu yooo, I still haven't had my exam yet, it starts at 21st of April, soon, very soon, im trying my best :D im trying to stay positive, for example, even if I fail, I can always retake the exam :>
This is the reason I left Hong Kong,the exams are very stressful,having exams 4 times a school year, one of my friends got diagnosed with anxiety bcouse of all this school stuff
I got sorely below average grades in high school. Now, 6 years later, I'm in my first years of a Masters programme. It's not the end yet, it's only just begun.
you have inspired me Haha, my exams this time flopped so bad and I'm sure I'm not gonna be in my honour class this time. No one has rlly comforted me so I'm just bottling my feelings up. thanks!
I mean it’s not just the DSE in Hong Kong,Recently a middle school girl(13 years old) committed suicide in a parking lot 15 minutes away from my home. Reports said it was all due to stress anxiety and a new principal that was too strict. One of my classmates was a close friend of her. So to everyone in world,I hope that you not only word hard but think positively,not everything is defined by a grade even in a stressful environment,we should try are best and give are all. Even if we don’t succeed.We still have a future. Everyone has a future. -a 6th grader in HongKong🧡💛❤️💙💜
I'm so proud of everyone who made it through, and took these tough assessments. I'm really happy they continued even when it was hard, and I am really motivated after watching this video. Thank you so much, students in this video, you are helping me keep motivated no study even when I don't want to- well done, you guys really deserve to do well, I'm so happy many of you got great marks, and even if you didn't, I believe in you and don't give up on your dreams!!! Thank you so much
When i got an D for my result , my dad is very happy because he already given up on me since all i did was playing game and still to these days , he still won't believe I did it base on my ability but cheating ...
LordTouchMe 77 also whether we like it or not, hongkong and macau are parts of china and by ethnicity we are chinese, we have no firewalls here :) not everyone needs vpn
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"stressful day"
One guy: "I find the dog very cute"
That guy has priorities man
Megumin did you even read what he said? *A PART* of happiness comes in nature
@@carnum1159 Yup! And it's the most irrelevant comment to ever add. It's like saying there is at least one human on the planet!
Yed
Must protecc man
Carl Ortiç funny, but still a bit offensive
Those parents being so supportive on camera.
*At home it's a different story*
true but no soo super true
@@misty_ravy Hopefully :P
“您為什麼不學習更難？！，我什至讓您修訂了一千倍，您是愚蠢的嗎？！”，
@joke no need to go at their house we can already predict it tho. Otherwise, you're not Asian so you wouldn't know how our parents literally have 2 difference face.... supportive only when infront of many people, but when not.... uuhh u know lah
@joke No, it's a joke lol. Don't take it literally.
I think us East Asians put too much focus on exam results. We are judged by how well we do in our exams. Life is more than just a piece of paper.
Sad truth.
Those paper will effect your future.
IF u just finished high school and no collage degree, for sure no job for u.
THANK YOU!
Some of the most successful people on the planet do not have college degrees, let alone high school diplomas. Granted, some careers require college such as the medical field.
Yoga Wan maybe yes, maybe no
Well more population= competition, while job market stay same or will be reduce by tech, what do you expect
If students are this emotionally recked and a single standardized test determines their future then something in their education system is wrong.
Exactly
Yep
Asian countries like this put too much focus on memorization
not so much the system but the competition
Do you expect universities to handpick students? Anyways chances are the universities know a lot are going to fail so they will make the minimum mark lower
but sometimes, even if your parents or family doesn't pressure you, you can't help but put pressure on yourself.
So true
Same except I don't really do anything about it lol
Yes! This is societal pressure. People think once removed from this environment, even if parents give no pressure in a new society, it goes away. But it doesn't. I immigrated a long time ago. This unspoken pressure is still present. It's been difficult to adapt to living without this pressure... I see my cousins raise their second generation immigrant children. They really don't have this pressure and live completely carefree. 🤦 I don't know if this self added pressure is a +/- thing. 😅
This is right....
me
If I did that, you’d see me cry right away because I didn’t pass.
Egg Egg How do you know you won’t pass? You may have other times you didn’t but you can’t be sure if this time will be the same as the rest.
Plus if you tried your hardest and put all you could, that's all that really matters right? You did your best, but it's just not one if your strong points and that's okay. I dont mean to be condescending, as I'm not too great at keeping up with schoolwork at all 😅
Macoroniyu ! You can’t assume.
SkyloverMC
It’s ok. It’s a joke
same
I'm from Hong Kong, and the fact that people study not for knowledge, just for passing DSE shocked me.
I'm sure majority of the people study for that reason
MyrohComments they have drones for that
@MyrohComments Bruh here in Asia university exams are taken seriously, they have serious checking, security, cameras even the dress code
That's the whole point of school you study not for knowledge but for that piece of paper. I prefer self education because it helps me to improve that's why I love the library and the internet more than school itself.
@@serpentzachary1340 Until you get hit by the reality truck finding out that most companies only accept university graduates.
In front of camera/crowds: "it's ok it's ok"
Already in home : "look at your cousin and your neighbor they got high score"
That happened to me
that sh is a fact bro they be bringing us down and comparing us to other better people
I hate how some parents compare their children to someone else
Ikr
Beryl語詩 My parents did this to me tho ;-;
This is what drives suicide rates
@ϟϟ White Wolf ϟϟ so cute. Have to make others feel weak to make yourself feel a tad bit confident. If anyone here is a beta, it's you.
RombaKungen agreed 😂
RombaKungen I thought it was a joke. If he was serious then I feel bad for him.
Archaic Savage You wouldn’t really joke about suicide..
@@taejunchang396 I was addressing the white wolf guy.
As a American student, I have huge respect for students from China, Japan, and Korea... It’s crazy how different our school system/life is...
Or you can also asia as whole. Our parents and the society put too much stress on us to do our best. I'm now living canada but the stress of going to school is still there
The challenge for American students may not be getting into university but rather graduating from it. Some programs have 50% or less completion rate.
@@eternalobi true
Not only in China, Korea and Japan. Almost all of Asian countries put too much expectations on students.
Malaysia,singapore and to be honest all asian countries...it is so stressful here
As an Asian kid I actually cried while watching this. Its too relatable
Lol what a beta 😂
@@unnamedindividual5157 that means child or kid
Stay in school still tho, aint don't want to not get a job
So Yashika as l get that we r both indians, which grade u r in??
@@unnamedindividual5157 Look guys, we got a badass alpha here
The fact that they need a therapy dog tell you something. It’s like having bars outside your window, there’s a reason for it.
Most universities I know in Canada also bring in puppies during exam season. It's a common practice
You don’t have bars outside your window?
@@mizu4305 ?
@@andrewdoesyt7787 I look out and every window has bars over it
@@mizu4305 What city do you live in? 😂. I don’t think I have seen bars on a window for a few years lol
In India especially Tamilnadu hundreds of students have committed suicide because they scored less marks! This zombie system needs to change!
Jawohl.
சங்கி மங்கி sanki manki
Hey bro! I'm also from Tamilnadu. I'm just gonna take my math exam tomorrow. Now itself I'm dying from fear.
Bro , don’t forget kota.
@@ventithedrunkon66 i gave my 12th boards too and I swear I was shivering in fear on my way to maths exam 😂😂😂
The parents from 2:30 made me tear up a little. Everyone needs supportive and loving parents during these challenging times. Hope everyone will hold their head up high regardless of their grades. Remember: some geniuses didn't do well at school so don't let this test define you.
i totally agree with you, im from the UK and when A-level (grades that determine whether you get accepted into your university) results came out , my parents were too busy and i can understand that but i died a little seeing my friends and their supportive parents. The fact that i got A*AAA didnt matter to me anymore. I think more parents should be supportive than imposing their standards on their children because we are human and we do have feelings.
When u fail they ain’t supportive
It’s easy to say but how easy is it to get anywhere in life without that gold gilding of a college education?
I just had fights with my parents regarding university and studies..and this part of the video just teared me up
My mom was so dissapointed everytime I get low grades, believe it or not Asian parents care more about grades and how you present yourself to society than their child's mental health.
Imagine getting back the marks for a test you've prepared for for over 2 years, knowing that it literally decides your future, and getting a low grade. If that situation happened to me I'd jump off a bridge right away. No wonder why these types of tests are harmful for student's mental health
you can give the test again but thats like dropping a year? And that year becomes the most depressing ones because everyone you know your age is already in the colleges they wanted and you are just stuck
One more thing is that the results will literally decide their fate therefore they will likely to be stressed about it while reviewing and wont perform well
3 years*, it's my turn next year and I'm terrified
@@janicesee__ fighting❗
I genuinely hope that you pass, I have to take my exams too next year... let's do our best together😊
But first I need my results back from my math test, it's killing me😔
JAN‼️ UPDATE I PASSED, let's both do our best next year kay😁✊
@@janicesee__ all the best dude. Rooting for u. U can do it.
As a teacher in the US, this breaks my heart. Students you are more than a test score! You are a human being and you are so important to the world. Your life has meaning and is valid. It hurts me to know that countries outside of the states put so much emphasis on what you score determines the path you take in life. I took the SAT and bombed everything, but the essay. I ended up attending a junior college (2 year institution) then transferring to my University to complete my BA. I graduated with a BA in History and a Social Studies composite teaching certification with honors in 2019 and just landed a teaching position in December. I love my school, I love my job. I love my kids. My parents did not force me to choose a career. While people told me I would never be happy because I would not make enough money, my parents and my friends encouraged me to pursue a career that would make me happy. You should enjoy your secondary education and enjoy your college experience. And do not be afraid to change your path if you come to discover the career you thought you wanted it not what you truly want to do.
And if your parents, family, teachers, or professors never told you this, then let me say it.
“You should be proud of the hard work you are putting in or have put in to reach you goal. Be proud of the mistakes, hardships and trials you have faced or are facing, because those will make you grow. You are doing this for you, your happiness, your future, no one else’s”.
-Ms. Lotre A high school World Geography and Economics teacher from Texas, USA.
Thank you
Thank you so much.
Thank you
Thank you, teacher. You're gonna make me tear up
Thank you, I really needed this.
I hate it when your life is determined by a piece if paper but I can’t do anything about it.
I hate it when snowflakes cant take the harsh reality of life either
@@87togabito ^
The kids who hate it are probably are in the class of lazy, undisciplined, rebellious or video game addicts. For the hard working kids, it is the best social mobility system in any society.
@@87togabito Judging people based on piece of paper is stupidity nothing more nothing less.
@@87togabito literally one of the top scorers in this vid talks about how liberal studies isnt brainwashing and is an important topic... isnt that pretty "snowflake-y"? Lol.
"He needs to find his way at the end"
Yes, every Asian mom says that in front of public, at home is another story
@太邪太恶了犹太佬 that is definitely not true uneducated learn the facts. People have to work hard their whole life's so no westerns do not have it easy I've met people who live paycheck to paycheck in America. The whole world is messed up no country is perfect there will always be people who suffer sadly this is the reality 😔
太邪太恶了犹太佬 “westerners have it easy” until we go to the emergency room for 15 minutes and proceed to get billed thousands of dollars to the point people file for bankruptcy
Nope delete that thought.. I have worked way too hard since last 2 yrs to get into an nice engineering college in India which is pretty tough.. But my dad always told me that life is also beyond yours marks.
maybe she's not one of those typical moms. who knows.
no she they seem like pretty genuine parents. My parents are like that too
And schools be like, "Why students are committing suciding?"
Killing yourself is committing suicide
@@rat4588 I just escaped from Nagito's basement.
@@rat4588
@@rat4588 What did you think happened?
Your englishing is committing suiciding
School shouldn’t be this stressful. Finland has a much, much less strict attitude towards testing, etc and yet they consistently show that they have the best schooling on Earth.
Finland is country with a population less than population of metropolitan city in India or China.
You can't really compare Finland and china as Finland has 5 million people while China has 1 billion
I agree that they should mitigate the stress level, unfortunately Finland and China can’t be comparisons when it comes to education due to massive population differences
to everyone saying not to compare finland to china… hong kong isnt china. :)
@@emperor8716 HongKong is China and anyone who disagree can go to China and ask the PLA.
“Don’t let schooling interfere with your education.” - Mark Twain
Well said
Easy to say as a westerner
rigolol ur just mad the United States is the most successful country in the world 🤷♂️
@@wizardsyndicate5505 you are actually delusional
totally agree!!!
"I don't have too many expectations"
*lies, all lies*
I mean these high school parents should know their own kids ability by now so if they actually know that their kid is failing school then they wouldn’t have high expectations. Not saying that this is true for everyone.
.
hong kong parents expectations are very different in comparison to mainland Chinese parents
@@theresachen3634 this is Asian mom
@@thingamajig9565 ? Is there something you wanted to add to my comment?
Asian parents grading system
A = acceptable
B = beating
C = can’t have dinner
D = don’t come home
F = find a new family
I am indo and we use number to grade score
Max:100
Min:0
Isn't not coming home like finding a new family?
Imagine having a name it’s more like don’t come home = all of the above and you have to beg to come back
@@shaiRSN oh ok ty
@@trainer-bq4wj anjim awoakwoakwo
I’ve personally learned how to not let my grades demolish my mental health and my emotions. it’s not the end, there is so much more life outside of education
That is honestly so important
Your comment literally gave me hope after the above depressing ones. You're great and made the right choice.🤗
The thing is education decides most of your future and exams and tests will remain a key component of your education and it decides which university you go to
Going to a higher level university means more resources, better facilities, more competitiveness, better teachers and most importantly more career opportunities especially to work in higher-level businesses and or institutes
It'll make life a whole lot better
But yeah preparing for exams is stressful
We have an 8th grade entrance exam and most top high-school’s will only accept admission for top students and remember it's high school admission not university
Prep for most students begins in around end of 6th grade or beginning of 7th grade and it's stressful af cause firstly it's a hard paper, secondly the grading and marking is very strict, the timing given is also not that much so you have to be fast, there's also a lot of stress and it's extremely competitive putting a lot of stress especially for top students
@@Kakashi-ck9tp what you’ve said makes sense and I partially agree. It’s also important to understand that there are other streams and means that can support your life as well outside of higher education. Education is fundamental yes however it shouldn’t be the sole reason that your life is miserable and you’re battling depression and anxiety amongst other things. We need to allow people to be outside of standardized tests and classes.
@MofuMofu wait wat ? where you live ?
Even people who did “so so” are harsh on themselves!!! This is the nature of Asian culture. If you don’t hit the mark, you’re not the norm.
Yes..I'm Asian to..but my mom in another level..didn't want continue study? Great..I won't forcing my girls to do whatever they didn't want to..but make sure u find ur husb rich enough to support your life..
Yea I'm also an Asian...well I scored B on one subject and she would still be dissapointed. I've tried my best...
I'm asian too and my mom said if I get under a 95 she'll take my gaming setup away.
This is how it is for us Americans too. It’s truly sad. I get a f and I’m scolded, I get a c and I’m still scolded. I get a B or an A and all I get is “I’m surprised you actually passed”....
@@Hazelbagelnut C is a pass
"I am very surprised that I achieved it. I didn't expect it to happen"
- every topper ever
True😂😂
😂😂😂
🤣🤣
pretty sure they practiced for this acceptance speech
"i dont think i studied enough, i think im not gonna pass" - every topper ever before the test
litterally the ones who got “okay” or “poor” marks on that could come to america and probably win every top award in the country
Probably not. America has different values. They don’t view people who only study as qualified. They rather get people who are well rounded and active in their community
@@kevinnguyen8631 totally. and even when these students are scoring great marks. It doesnt really say weather they are best at that subject, maybe they've just memorised it and would probably forget it
@@phenomenalphysics3548 It's only in the us where subjects are only about memorising, in most countries you have complecated think where you need to think
@@maten146 asian countries? Well in India, if you prepare for entrance exam, that's only when you need to think (well a lot)
In your country too?
Probably not. Studying and scores are not the only valued thing in America. Our education system is sub-par though
Bruh I'm already having a hard time in school in America, I can't even imagine going to school here. ;-;
To be completely honest, it's a very fine line between stern discipline and outright mental abuse. Where do we draw the line is a serious question we all need to answer
one time a foreign exchange student came to our class and finished a math test that had an hour to complete in 5 MINUTES. the teacher asked him, “how did you finish already?” and he said “too easy”
@@ghoodbhabie2558 reallyyy , which country was he from?
@@mehreenali3602 china
@@ghoodbhabie2558 wow wth
Saw the title and immediately felt really anxious and stressed. I can't even imagine how stressed they are, I feel very lucky that here we aren't put under that much stress. Exams in Asia are no joke... I wish the very best for those who didn't do as well as they wished, also for those who did well. But it breaks my heart knowing there are people who would be devastated by their results.
I agree. To be honest I felt heartbroken
I think it's either you spend your entire life and focus on one exam or like in America, over many different things such as extracurriculars, SAT, GPA and et cetera.
I don't think exams are a joke anywhere
@@mayas1655 Here in NZ they aren't the most important thing in highschool, we focus on getting through the year with enough credits. Exams are important but they don't mean everything
@@raykarpp well the video shows the opposite
In the result day i become the Most Religious Person in the World
Sameee. Atheism leaves my body as soon as tests and exams begin.
@@danica._.6822 😂fr
😂
Lol
On result day I shall pray like no other Christian has ever prayed before 😀
Just come live in America for a little bit. You’ll be the smartest person in the room anywhere you go 👌🏼
Smartness doesn’t mean much in America.
@@ashbutminier Not from america but as an outsider looking in, it seems like who knows you and who you know matters much more there. They pay for connections rather than education, I think. Someone pls correct me if im wrong lol
Edit: grammar
Inure it is a feature of all capitalist countries, even China is reliant on connections when you’re at the top of the capitalist system but the people at the bottom of the system will study hard to climb to the top. (China is basically capitalism but they just call themselves socialists)
I swear, I was in 10th grade in highschool and everything was just so easy (Im from Germany,)😂
Englisch Ap, yes, Biologie for 11th grader, here I go, oh look a subject I never had and dont understand, still A
And when the exams were, everyone was like "I have to learn or else I will fail" "it will be difficult"..... an exam where you just have to choose between 4 answers is easy (they should change that bc it doesnt prepare you for life where you have to write WHOLE essays/texts + I heard in college you have to do so)
Karen luvs Jesus I’m kind of confused by your comment.. but, okay?
I got my DSE results last year, and I broke down in tears as soon my eyes laid upon the results. I’d been revising for months and months before the exam and I still got horrible results. It’s affected me so much in the past year and both my physical and mental health have deteriorated immensely. The education system is honestly terrible, although effective. If you’re a parent, don’t raise your child in Hong Kong unless you want to give them lifelong trauma.
I'm so, so sorry. I wish you all the success and happiness in life, you're more than your grades.
Hope you doing well
i am the dser this year. i got your feeling even though i havent started my dse exam.
Hope you're doing ok now :(
I hope you are doing something which is better than this.
I got poor grades in high school including failing maths and I still got into a top 100 ranked University. If I was in Hong Kong I'd probably have to be a janitor or something, it's crazy how competitive asian countries are
Crazy what money can do eh
Similar story as yours. My brother failed in the HK exam but my mom gave him a tiny amount of money to go study in a community college in the US.
He rode a bike to school and worked at Denny's to support himself. To make the story short, he founded a company that became a Fortune 500 company.
@Anna Lee, On the contrary, you get ahead because of education, without relying on one source of information.
In east asia: "Yeah I didn't make the cut for this top university, time to work as a janitor as at best I'll be mediocre"
In the west: "Yeah I didn't make the cut for this top university, let's create a business around what I wanted to study, and learn as I operate it".
I mean there isn't as much universities in Hong Kong, it's a small piece of land. That's probably why it's that much more competitive
@@justinf.5688 Hong Kong is artificially kept small so that real estate prices can stay high, I mean it's more than 50% unused due to the government, but if such a huge amount of people can live there, then even universities shouldn't have a problem.
Kinda relate as a Singaporean. Remembered they had security guards checking the rooftop doors to make sure they were locked during A level results day
Oh my
WOW
O-oh...
That bad? Wow
And they should know it isn't gonna stop a suicidal person from killing themselves, they will find some other ways...
Too much people too less university space and jobs. High competition= stress and potential increase in suicide rate
Karen luvs Jesus I understand bro. I never needed college or certain grades in high school for the life I am striving for. Being more successful than anyone can get out of any degree. Anyone can succeed if they look outside of what the world and parents teaches them to be
@Happy Dude and no studied stereotypes and hate
no choice. life is always a competiotion, and a unfair one.
wanna do the thanos solution?
@Karen luvs Jesus I want to start my own business but I am stucked in my 9-5 rat race job
42% can apply to universities, this is such a great number. In India result is maximum about 5 to 10%
exactly, most others have to settle for other private colleges
@@workplease5696 yes people like me
@@enea_7280 for girls the only option is " marriage", while boys work as a janitor.
@@enea_7280 well realistically speaking people in the top colleges have better chances of getting a job as their college signifies they can work hard. Others in different colleges have a much harder time getting a job and either have to settle for very low paying jobs or find something else, especially in a country overflowing with engineers. There's not a lot of focus on vocational training as a realistic career.
In Ukraine 120% students can apply to universities. Our universities is empty.
Remember kids getting an "A" doesn't guarantee you're going to be a Billionaire, Always in everything that you do, do it best with full passion.
Well getting an "A" can determine whether or not you go to uni.
A students work for C students.
Kevin Zhang name a c student CEO?
Kaisya Ng A lot of CEOs are college dropouts
@@kaisasong1332 You should read the book "why A students work for C students" by Robert Kiyosaki.
*Meanwhile*
Additional maths - F
Meh, it's not important anyway.
Edit: additional maths = advanced maths. We call it that where I live.
Additional maths is torture! For me at least
@Subaru Natsuki agree
Lol what is additional maths why do y’all say maths instead of math
Tbh addmaths isnt really that hard, chem is💀
@@MariahX.5 it's two different maths.
Ugh the stress of it all must be very hard for all of them. Wishing them success and happiness in the future!
Hello from Long Island, New York🙂
Lucky you no stress
Slowlikehoney Too I live in Long Island too
Updatesys shutup you don’t even know
Updatesys we all have stress and watching these students stressed me out just to see how hard and important these tests are.
No judgement and non biased so chill!
Taejun Chang where about neighbor?🙂
You know what's the bitter truth of society everyone talk about celebrities' struggle but no one talks about students' struggle which I think is the hardest sitting on a chair for like 10-12 hrs doing that thing which we don't like i. e. study no one likes to study...
Studying is not really that bad. Ideally when you are learning about sth that interests you. The pressure is what makes it so tough...
@@darkdelphin834 Yeah.. Actually if you've interest in something than it'd be easy for you... So yeah basically if you wanna achieve something than first you've to fall in love with that...For example for me Physics and Maths are not a subject they're emotions.. 😅
@@darkdelphin834well heres the thing not all that you learn interest you. Some make you bored and you have to study even if it is against your free will.
"some students came out very satisfied"
*Literally all girls*
Because.... the scene theyve taken is from an all girls school(?)
So?-
clockwork ssh they’re wearing DGS uniform, yes its a girl school.
It's a all girls school they even showed a pic where boys are toppers some schools have separate classrooms for girls and boys also many schools take girl toppers and boys toppers pictures separately. But actually Asian girls take education very seriously as they think that's the only way to proof themselves in society because in China/Hong Kong boys where preferred over girls so many girls put alot of effort in exams.
@@Marklee-lx7cd yeah, pressure over girls is different at average.
I love how supportive those parents are.
For other Asian students, the pressure comes FROM the parents.
they’re very caring, in their own way most of the time
So true
I'm not Asian but my hispanic parents do be putting pressure on me
My parents tried to pressure me on my studies before, hoping to improve my grades. But I'm too hard headed af, my parents gave up pressuring me eventually lol.
this sounds incredibly ridiculous but i actually sobbed when the boy was being comforted by his parents and even had his dad acknowledge his hard work. some of us aren't that fortunate with supportive parents. sorry for going off in a rant.
It's more stressful in HK because there's only a handful of Universities but one of the densest cities in the world.
Best of luck, from the mainland, guys. We don't always see eye to eye but the stress of tests unite us.
Look at Singapore
Wait, TH-cam is banned in the mainland, how were you able to set this out?
VPN, my dude. And no, no one care about it, contrary to western belief.
They only care when people commit crimes.
The police here are more like...how do you say it...community helpers. They didnt even carry guns until a couple years ago after that terrorist attack at the train station.
Adspecter Chinese Need to export goods outside the country, so its not banned totally
@@123fourfive5 how is your social credit score ? lol
I feel like in China you HAVE to be a star student, whereas in the west you have some options if school isn’t your forte
Not only china dude but every Asian country!!
Right! Although the China part applies to nearly all of Asia.
@@insanelyawesam1420 yeah
Yep in the western even if you fail, there are a lot of opportunities to a dream life.
@@anikdey9706 Well, the grass is always greener on the other side. Opportunities don‘t come easy anywhere these days.
People laughing and making jokes about this makes me disgusted. You dont know how stressful it is to not only have such a huge burden and concern about your future but your parents' expectations of you as well. It's never just about the scores.
That's why don't be dumb
it's not like they died or something. life doesnt end after DSE.
@Mike Jack you may not be like that but parents concerns are more likely the reasons why students study. Some doesn't want to let their parents down and some are downright scared about their parents
Mike Jack Darling, you’ll never understand Asian culture so why bother? Everyone is fighting their own battle that you’re not aware of so, until you have something nice to say, shut your mouth.
@@husenpr You just dont understand. You are lucky even your smart there's alwalys people that smarter and more diligent than you. I felt the same when I was in senior high school. 76 score isnt Bad right? Wrong!!! When everyone scores 80-90 even 100 mark! Teacher making us more stress comparing our result. Welcome to Asia btw.
Wow, if coronavirus wasn't a thing, I'd be flying over there to hug everyone, no cap.
Same! I just wanted someone to hug them all
And I need to go to school physically soon and I can't wait to get bullied and getting mocked again and making my life worse.
@@七海千秋-e9i Aw man, sorry to hear that. I wish you the best and here is an internet hug. つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
@@七海千秋-e9i let me tell you that school will be over someday, and you will be free from that toxic environment, until then hang in there, you're not alone!! :')
fr i just wanna go over there and hug them all and give them food/presents lol idk
"I cant believe I got top marks, I'm only aiming to study at Cambridge in the UK"
@Yeshua is Lord. Yeah because in UK there are only 3 unis. Cambridge , Oxford and Harvard. Thanks stereotypes
Skywalker Mapping Harvard is in the U.S. 😂
Tina Z. 😂
IncinerateZ turns out admission to one of the best universities in the world requires more than pure academics. In Cambridge they expect more from their students.
In reality more than half the knowledge you gain throughout high school will be unused through university, the majority of your schooling is more important as a sign that you are capable of learning difficult concepts/ applying yourself rather than just the amount of knowledge you can retain.
@Yeshua is Lord. UCL is seriously overrated i honestly dunno why
Only their medical school is world class
This is literally happening all over Asia not only in China, Japan and Korea. When I took my college entrance exam and did not meet my parents expectation I cried because I felt my hardwork is not enough and my parents were disappointed at me.
You worked hard and that is what counts ❤️
Trust me. If you work hard. You will make it one way or another but if you give up. Then you shall never make it.
This is late, but you can do it and life is much more than just tests and exams. You will realise it.
Your parents should have been happy for you because you worked hard.
It's rare to find people who are hardworking and especially when they are not planning to give up.
You can do it. What helps me is planning a goal. A goal you really want to accomplish. So when you think: 'I can't do this anymore' or 'I will never make it'. Think about that goal you really want to accomplish.
I hope this helped you!
Yea especially India
Imagine caring what your parents say.
@@templexdank2933Said by the unloved child.
@@Truthholder345I wouldn’t say India cares about grades more, for me I think they care about grades as much as any other Asian countries.
Now I know what they meant by
"School kills creativity" 😞.
And belle delphine making money without doing NOTHING
@@twinkiet.muffin1634 stick to the topic
Art school and art subject still exist in asia calm down
@@quietperson3886 Though it really shouldn't be a mandatory subject middle school onwards
@@quietperson3886 really? What about philosophy or poetry? I never see east asians being into these.
I live in Asia and I know the feeling, what’s worse is that my parents always bring me down every time my scores are not what my parents expected, it’s like I have to reach their expectations in order to be successful, but I don’t want that, I have another dream. I wish my parents appreciate talent instead of scores. I do this sport and I really want to go to the Olympics but I don’t think it’s possible because my parents are gonna choose my future, not me. I really hope my parents start changing
Facts!I can’t remember not being called a failure.
Sometimes I wish I had talent. In the toppers girls school most of them are very intelligent, always get straight As, some kind of whole Hong Kong champion in sports, at least reached grade 8 in an instrument by age 10, won awards in Visual Arts. Yep, talent matters the most here
This is true, I live in ph and when I got a low score on exam, I can't get my hands on my cellphone so I always study and got top in class.
I just study for me to play games because I always fight in online tournaments and playing is really my passion.
Try to managing time. It would be awesome if you could do both.
Don't give up on your dream that easily.
Be your own savior if your parents don't change, rely on yourself as hard as it sounds. You got this, it's your destiny.
It's same in India too...The competition for a seat in prestigious college is so tough.
And In entrance exams like NEET, JEE main and Jee advance, the selection rate is only about 2-3% and almost around 10- 16 lakh appears each year.
for real
@@bellecwy yep even Harvard is 5 percent even mit has 8 percent but in indoa ,china the acceptance rate is sometime even less than 1%.
As of 10,000 are selected out of 1.5 to 2 million students .
And Except these colleges other college degree has no value its zero beacuse these are the only options or even other options are there but falling these breaks you too much with society pressure that you can even do anything .
Was looking for this comment.
@@manasa7351 Yeah...And right now I am crying because I just missed a medical seat by 2 marks😭😭😭...
I will try again next year...
It hurts knowing all my hardwork just go in vain 😭
@@ipshita12345 aw I'm so sorry!! You tried your best that matters more (ik how this society is) All the best for your 2nd attempt! I'm sure you'll rock it!!!💕
2:33 "Parents were there, supporting their kids" Well apparently the dad in the middle left is different
It's funny how the ppl in the comment section refer to only Chinese, Japanese, Korean when they refer to Asians....
I haven't seen any comments specifying this, as there are cultural similarities with other Asian countries
yeah Indians are asians too....and i will say the pressure is same on me......it is not easy...not at all....i am preparing for JEE Advanced 2022...i have wasted my 6 months already.....and am struggling...i hope for best in 2021
Well do you want them to keep mentioning all those countries everytime, I mean everyone knows not all Asians are the same but saying they are Asians is easier and shorter
Indian here I hate when people do that.
Another Indian here, tbh i don't really care about it cause it's obv that they didn't mean any harm
Whatever the results, I just hope that these students got a "Congratulations/it's okay, we know you did your best. We're proud of you."
*Edit: Btw to everyone who feels discouraged or pressured rn, I'm here along with others to tell you that it's okay and still, congratulations. We know you did your best and we're proud of you! Take heart, stay healthy, and be safe 😃
sadly many of em probably didnt
@@stormintheshell5130 yeah, it's a sad reality especially in our world where expectations and pressure exist. But for now, we can just hope they did and if not, well then we're here 😃
@@janatumapang8508 expectations and pressure aren't bad though, only if you let it get to you, sometimes being under pressure helps people
@@shineeshome Agree. But as long as there is that chance where expectations and pressure may cause bad stuff, I guess a few kind words or an ear wouldn't hurt 😁. And yeah, I guess my idea of expectations and pressure being a sad reality may have resulted from experience where even if it helps you excel for example, sometimes it doesn't really make yoy happy or satisfied. But oh well, it's just my opinion hehe and this isn't for me to disagree with you btw 😅 We all have our ways of dealing with things and thanks for pointing that out 😁
@@shineeshome too much pressure though can have major negative effects like mental issues and suicide. There is a thin line that many parents and teachers go over, but it's hard to say where that line is
Those who failed, when they got home, they'll be punished.. that's what asian parents do.
Not really. They’re parents will be disappointed and worried for their futures, because they don’t want a hard life for their children. These marks influence not only the parents happiness but the kid is intrinsically motivated to do well too.
Rose W oh how wrong you are
Not every parent, there are some toxic and some that are understanding
@@rosew8495 (￣ヘ￣）ᴴᴹᴹᴹ nope at least not a lot of parents I know
@@rosew8495 true
As an Asian i know how it feels our exams marks is everything for us . We not only have exam stress but loads of comparing with either our elder siblings or relative's children if we get less than them we are literally considered as black spot of family
We are judged by our exam results not by how productive we are in our daily lives
Same here
Exam can change our life
Same my mom always compares her friends children to me😃
it is true, my parents always compare me to others
The companion dogs really brought a smile to my face. I’m glad they could calm their nerves :)
Well after 3 years , i will be in their position. I promise I WILL STUDY HARD ;~;
Hope the best for you :)
@@superxrod thank youuuuu :333333
I'm rooting for you °^°
@@helli5057 °^° wahhh thanksss
Study smart not hard, they say
This reminds me every day of that kid I once knew in my graduating high school class that committed suicide because he got a low score on the SAT & ACT...mind you his parents had super high expectations and controlled every aspect of his life from who he talked too and really honestly they cared more about the name of the college he would get into rather than his health.
They wanted to brag that their child made it into this prestigious ivy league school. I remember the kid being like a blank paper, people knew his situation and became friends with him & talked. But he ignored everyone as if he didn't care...I never not think about this kid every day and if the circumstances were better he'd still be alive today.
I have nothing to say besides that I feel sorry for him.
This is really sad. I just want to hug them and tell them it's ok🥺💚
Same
Now I’m waiting for my results in weeks (2021 DSE)
Man, I nearly vomited the day I had to take one of my AP exams. I wasn’t even studying European History for my future, but my anxiety levels were through the roof.
Elizabeth Spain AP exams are super low stakes though. They don’t really affect your future. They could be nerve wracking, yes, but the AP text at its worst is a score you can ignore and its best is something you can boast about and perhaps get college credit before. The worst isn’t even that bad
I know! That’s why I can’t even imagine taking one of these tests that is very important for my future. Because I can’t lie to myself and say, if I fail, it won’t harm me in any way.
As an American, I just wanna give m a d respect to them. I’d die if I tried doing this.
@Karen luvs Jesus Sometimes I'm jealous of western society. Teens over there have so much carreer choices and picking a non-STEM course doesn't seem to be frowned upon in the west. Here in Asia, society pushes everyone to go on the same path(like choosing STEM courses) even if a person doesnt fit in those courses.
You don't have board exams in the US? Here in Scotland we have the national exams I thought the US was the same as the UK on that front
Hussnain Ali Well we have the SAT which universities look at to see if u qualify and are at the correct level for their school.
Sons hug their Fathers while crying? Wow, that's actually amazing.
Nakshatra Rajput if i get bad grade the least punishment is no food for 2 weeks
@Cloudy Clouds Unless you look like a concentration camp prisoner after two weeks, it's not really been two weeks.
@@James-wt5uh mine is just no going out for at least 3 weeks, the cold shoulder from my parents and the classic slipper or hanger...whichever they choose
@@James-wt5uh I remember that one time when I was in 8th grade. I was studying in a science high school in the Philippines. And each grade was divided into five sections based on our academic performance each year. We were ranked in every subject, classroom, and by the whole batch. I was in section three at that time and I was usually ranked as top 6. That quarter though, my rank dropped to top 16. My parents threatened to send me to a common public high school, took away my phone for about two months, reduced the amount of my monthly allowance by half (forever), got a 3 hour scolding, and questioned my ability to study and become successful in the future 🙃
Rheyyy M classic ASIAN PARENTS
The paper isn’t worth your life...
this is truly sad that schools have made us value things too much like this
school in America is the worst, I feel their pain, jesus its already hard to keep up, I've barely passed my grades
@@mW-yp9gn school in america is 100x easier than this
Yeah american school is better than serbian school
My country exams aren't that near-impossible level
At least more than 50% accepted to university
@@mW-yp9gn UK is harder, but I feel your pain either way
Some students in China even stay over at school overnight for several weeks as exams get closer as well :’(
To play games at night...i saw it
@Karen luvs Jesus Uh, that's kinda the whole point of education, ya know? To make you a productive member of society.
Same in South Korea 😫 I really hate Korean education system. To be honest,I wanna leave Korea
If I compare this to my german a level exams I feel so guilty. Not gonna flex or anything but I passed with ease and only studied like a month before the great exams.
The way education is forced onto chinese teenagers is so wrong. Life isn’t a competition. It’s a constant journey of growth. And one should chose how to do so.
Not only Chinese students,but all asian countries are the same.
@Michael Scofield Es gibt halt 'nen Unterschied zwischen "bestanden" und "gutes Abitur".
they're from hong kong, but yes almost every asian country does this
A Levels? I completed that 2 months ago. Now I’m awaiting results
@@b_kby Auf jeden fall, guter punkt. Ich wusste halt was ich studieren wollte und wusste das der schnitt irrelevant ist. Leider ist das in asiatischen Ländern nicht so. Da musst du dich abakern weil es nur einen weg zum "erfolg" gibt
Its not just about "oH I got bad result"
Its your future
The future isn't just a piece of paper. One has to achieve the future they want by their own experience and guts, and not by scoring high points in a exam. What's important in life is knowing how to be happy, and how to live happily.
Oblivion[2] i do understand what u mean, but it doesn’t work on our broken education system
Oblivion[2] That high points in exam gets you to the best colleges which will entail you to get better connections with big companies. This will result with you having a better chance at high paying jobs meaning if you wanna succeed you better try harder. Working hard won’t always get you to succeed. Working 12 hour shifts 5 days a week at Mcdonalds because you dropped out of high school won’t get you to succeed.
@@oblivion2755 yep, i understand your point but this asia, duh
Oblivion[2]
Well that’s just how it is. That piece of paper determine your future and you can’t live a “happy life” if you do bad...
Imagine a test so hard that you actually need companion dogs to help you not have a mental breakdown and they take interviews of you if you pass the test.
Their parents support them?! So sweet! Here in India they would be round housed with slippers! While heaping prices on neighbour's kids!
It’s just some of the parents not all I KNOW THEYRE VERY STRICT IN HK
@Hoàng Nguyên vietnam actually learned from India
@@thanos9704
What did vietnam learn from india? Lol
I got 88% here in Pakistan scored 98 out of 100 in Advanced Math (equivalent to Add Maths of A level Oxford) also scored 96 in Biology 97 in Physics but couldn't handle the pressure in chemistry and scored 71 out of 100% and 74 in English and some low in non science subjects and here now I am not eligible for Med school so now I have to repeat my second year again 😔(I have offers from Australia National University and Bradford Oxford but cannot get a seat in any med school out of tens of in my city plus I m broke!!
Nah chinese parents usually don’t care about their kids
IDK...Saying your entire future lies in a sheet of paper in one exam is a bit out there...Should focus on accumulating skills and experience instead, not memorizing 50,000 pages for one exam, which immediately forget after!...
That's true here in the west but as someone with friends from China I have heared enough, their entire future does depend on that test, if they don't get into the top colleges they end up in a community College and get a low salary job due to china's huge population
@@merve4661 think about India then . We even have caste system which defies the merit based exam results
Yay, tell this to the school, the bosses and society , as long as this is the easiest and laziest way to determine a person, they will keep being what they are
You should live in Asian countries because as an Asian, we are judged by our exam results plus the expectations of your parents. Add if you have smart friends who can ace an exam with just an hour of review. Expectations, future life and more expectations is what exam papers always remind me. And if you failed, you'll feel isolated, idk if some of y'all feel that way but I feel that way when a time I failed a test.
Asian parents always compare you to the smartest people in the school/area. So if you want to avoid a very long lecture and scolding, your results do depend on that "piece of paper". Also that "piece of paper" helps you decide your future, do you want to be scrubbing floors on the streets or working for a multinational corporation? It's up to that "piece of paper". Think before you talk
chinese parents:he tried his best, i am proud of him
my parents:we are spending so much on him for nothing
Asfandyar Imran other way around
Asfandyar Imran focus more?
I think its me replace with chinese and chinese replace with me
STUDY MORE!!
Same
I got mediocre results for my national exam. I remember how nonchalant most of the teachers were upon knowing what I got. But two most meaningful things happened on that day, one the teacher of my weakest subject was the only one that literally cheered for me and I didnt even get an A for his subject. Second, my parent were so happy for me as if I got excellent result, we even celebrated with dining at expensive restaurant which my family usually wouldnt and couldnt go to. I might not get achieve excellence in my academic performance, but I learn that there are more beautiful things in life other than that.
I’m so glad u got to enjoy those things even after such a stressful ordeal.
Southeast Asia here. I graduated from elite school. My school is rank 1 in region since elementary till high school. Half scholarship in bachelor degree. Full scholarship in master degree.
And here I'am jobless. Playing League and PoE all day since graduate. Paper and tittle doesn't decide your future. For sure.
But nowadays in spare time from gaming all the times (gamer is I'am). I do my own research paper to apply for some money and have my own gift shop to pay my daily expenses also I take courses in basic Japanese Language N5 (so it's study time again). So in the end its my own efforts to break this jobless stalemate.
*Play Kimetsu no Yaiba opening song*
Bruh
Bruh.
Bruh
Bruh
Why aren't you getting hired?
Exam results is not everything. I failed school once, but now I'm a millionaire, owning big house and big car.
Then I woke up
Still failed though 😣
please give me money h
Hahahhaahahahag
@@reenaasmr8451 read it again...!!!
@@MariaGarcia-pl3kj LOL
*are
You clearly failed English
I’m a South Korean student in America. I was born and raised in America but with more traditional values and respects of Korea and Eastern Asia. Even in American schools, where I’m expected by my family, my classmates, my teachers, and the current society we live in to outperform the norm- it becomes very overwhelming. At many points I convinced myself to have abnormally high expectations for myself, and there were also many times where all I could think about was my inferiority, and how much I would want to die (passively).
I’m going into only my junior year of high school. But with a new outlook. Covid-19 is running rampant, school is even stranger than it was, and I still hate everything about the education institution.
Just so far, if there’s anything I’ve learned over the past 6 years, is that students before my age should live their lives and middle and high schoolers doing the things they love. Don’t waste your time worrying about trivial things like I did. Your educational experience in school is only a fraction of a fraction of what the years to come will bring.
I must agree. Isn't happiness the ultimate goal? I take achieving that a success in life no matter where you stand in the eyes of society.
America taught the world this, but they accepted everything else, except for what matters.
The students know that they dont have a life.
Myself included, I go to classes that go from 6 am to 11.30 pm, mostly with just a hour for lunch.
All this for a piece of paper,
The schooling system is unnatural, it was created to train young people to do what they're told and prepare them to work in factories. We should be learning through mentorships and apprenticeships, learning the trades of our father/mother/family or training with a mentor/scholar in small groups of 10 or less. The modern schooling system is focused more on scores than on actual learning.
Man, I just wanna give each and every one of them a hug. They're all so much more than a test score
Dude- why did I have the idea to watch this I’m crying so much knowing my grades have dropped because of my procrastination-
Always believe and never forget that you're number 1 at anything thats one of the beliefs that keeps tou from procrastinating
The top girls a holding a press conference I CAN'T
Yes, they're THAT smart if they aced it
@@JeffieDabs the thing is can you imagine what was happening closed doors tho like we never really know how much a struggle or even pressure they had to ace them
that's the most famous girls school is all of Hong kong
I think they do it to show off and make other parents to compare their child from her and blame them..(I say this by my experience)
@@darksouls6014 Indian right!? Bhai hum comparison main hi marnge
Those who posted their comments here making jokes about these students probably didn't know how to study🙄
Add these words
...... in asia
HK students shld just focus on protest than school!
@@AyupChuck pRoPeR eNgLiSh SeNtEnCe
that is why asians are always better than them
@@spammmedubu And first time seeing a Scientist with a cartoon profile pic....grow up kid.
" *Some students came away very satisfied* "
Literally from every class that one Albert Girl!-
" *Not everyone was happy with their results* "
Half of the school-_-
The parents who comforted their child was so lucky, I wish my parents would do that :( if I scored that low, they would srsly abuse me
You okay bro?
I'm so sorry I hope your doing better😿😿
Jesus loves you❤❤❤
They just said that cuz of camera and their son is probably suffering rn
Ansthethicc same here my father would do that to me
As a American student i feel respect to all countries who have this much stress in their lives, even though I’m only just going to high school in August I hope I don’t get stressed out.
watching this while procrastinating for studying for a test stresses me out even more
same lol
Don’t let school interfere with your education - Mark Twain
@Lord Jashin I think the guy is East Asian judging from the name and pfp
As a student who has been through the hkdse, it’s true that the result of this exam will have a huge influence on your future...ppl studied really hard for this so it’s not “just an exam” to us, it’s three yrs of hard work, tears and an entire bookshelf of notes...therefore it’s normal for us to be emotional
i remember when i received mine, i was just like "oh, ok" since my score was within my expected score lol
can't be disappointed if you come without expectations EH
@@kayziix9618 if you think you dont have to pay for a service and then have to pay for it makes me dissapointed without any expections
me an asian: "yes. I know life is way more important. I know, papers don't determine your path in life. Anything can happen"
also me: *cries internally*
This is like the embodiment of my life TT
Oml same ;-;
Don't expose me
Exam paper is just a paper. Money is just paper as well, why don't you recycle all your money then?
Me too
I remember having my first 50% exam result on my test back in 4th grade and it felt like I wanted to move to a new house or to an island where no one would find me with that failure. Yeah, the house was VERY VERY LIVELY when they found out.
There's an artist who need not get full mark Chemistry
There's an entrepreneur who's English marks wont matter
This exams are important but dont let them judge who you are.Please know that
*Life is a serious business, but it is not meant to live seriously*
0:19-0:22 I can literally feel the stress through the screen
Same
I am so glad my parents immigrated
ME TOO 😂
Me three
lucky asf
Me five x5
I hate school and get distracted in studying a lot, maybe school in Florida isn’t that bad 😬
This video got recommended to me today right before my exam tmr, oh what a great timing, I’m now form 4 (high school, grade ten? I think ?) in HK and I’m already so scared/stressed that I would fail in this exam, and, in the future, DSE exam.
Best of luck to all of you and I’m rooting for anyone who’s going through tough time, we can do this :D !!
Hey! It’s been 2 years. Mind if I know how your exam went?as an Asian, study culture in sch is very stressful too 😔
@@rinnzu yooo, I still haven't had my exam yet, it starts at 21st of April, soon, very soon, im trying my best :D im trying to stay positive, for example, even if I fail, I can always retake the exam :>
hey how'd you go on ur exam?@@lemonpeel01
This is the reason I left Hong Kong,the exams are very stressful,having exams 4 times a school year, one of my friends got diagnosed with anxiety bcouse of all this school stuff
Four times a school year heheh, I need exams every month and four extra for every period/semester, and we have nine subjects :')
4 exams in a school year? that's not much compared to ours which is 8 exams in 10 months with 8 subjects.
Lebanon is like signafore
@@InternetAntagonist nah in lebanon 5 exam in one week or more
Wait 4 exams per school year isn't normal?
I got sorely below average grades in high school. Now, 6 years later, I'm in my first years of a Masters programme. It's not the end yet, it's only just begun.
you have inspired me Haha, my exams this time flopped so bad and I'm sure I'm not gonna be in my honour class this time. No one has rlly comforted me so I'm just bottling my feelings up. thanks!
I mean it’s not just the DSE in Hong Kong,Recently a middle school girl(13 years old) committed suicide in a parking lot 15 minutes away from my home.
Reports said it was all due to stress anxiety and a new principal that was too strict.
One of my classmates was a close friend of her.
So to everyone in world,I hope that you not only word hard but think positively,not everything is defined by a grade
even in a stressful environment,we should try are best and give are all.
Even if we don’t succeed.We still have a future.
Everyone has a future.
-a 6th grader in HongKong🧡💛❤️💙💜
I'm so proud of everyone who made it through, and took these tough assessments. I'm really happy they continued even when it was hard, and I am really motivated after watching this video. Thank you so much, students in this video, you are helping me keep motivated no study even when I don't want to- well done, you guys really deserve to do well, I'm so happy many of you got great marks, and even if you didn't, I believe in you and don't give up on your dreams!!! Thank you so much
Life success isn’t determined solely by school scores
Adnan A its not but its is somewhat important
Chup baiye choothiyee!
When i got an D for my result , my dad is very happy because he already given up on me since all i did was playing game and still to these days , he still won't believe I did it base on my ability but cheating ...
Jasio you can play video games and make A's in school.
Jasio i am Chinese i play lots of games, my mom hates it and i feel you,
@@anthony42- how tf do chinese people use youtube?
@@lordtouchme77 vpn
LordTouchMe 77 also whether we like it or not, hongkong and macau are parts of china and by ethnicity we are chinese, we have no firewalls here :) not everyone needs vpn
After seeing this, I'm more happy that some of these kids have supportive parents, even with whatever score they got. Best of luck to all of them.
Parent: "I don't have much expection" - Meaning (Mostly A s with a couple A- s )