NHL Roundtable: MacLean sits down with Orr, Messier, Gretzky and Lemieux

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  • @ginazhang
    @ginazhang 7 ปีที่แล้ว +440

    I'm surprised that room didn't explode with that much talent surrounding the table. So many legends in one place.

    • @gatesgates7788
      @gatesgates7788 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Gina Zhang what does that even mean lol

    • @ginazhang
      @ginazhang 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Filmon Tiku Idk bud.

    • @dabadguy7882
      @dabadguy7882 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I was just thinking the same...Those 4 legends are easily among the all-time top 10. Hell they could be in all-time top 5.

    • @ETRacing
      @ETRacing 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My head exploded just watching this!

    • @user-hd1qx2bd1r
      @user-hd1qx2bd1r 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You're so right Gina, These Canadian boys are the best of the best who have ever played the game, I wish Gordie Howe and Jean Beliveau could have been there too!!! Amazing Home Grown Talent!!!

  • @patkajape
    @patkajape 7 ปีที่แล้ว +574

    These kids have potential

    • @h.p.6223
      @h.p.6223 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      yup

    • @FINgaming1000
      @FINgaming1000 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      patkajape are you sure?

    • @jeffreydean5112
      @jeffreydean5112 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Gretzky will be a bust tho

    • @stephenjewell8455
      @stephenjewell8455 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      JD....You're not the first person to say that. I'm from Burlington, Ontario same region as Wayne Gretzky who was playing for Brampton, Ontario. I'm a little over a year older. Yet I played against him a few times in the 1970s. He was generating all sorts of new coverage at the time as a teenage player scoring lots of goals. I had a coach who at the time didn't seem to understand or appreciate that his father had chosen to put him in our bantam division as a peewee aged player for the extra competition and challenge he wasn't getting in his own age group. My coach on his first look at him, in a game where we held him to just two goals scored, came away with this infamous line I'll never forget, "He's good but I don't know what all the fuss is. He's too small and he's never gonna play pro!" How very wrong he was!!

    • @sk8torboycrip
      @sk8torboycrip 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@stephenjewell8455 my dad actually played against gretzky one year back then but idk if your lying? Gretzky never played for brampton... only for brantford Steelers.. and he dominated the league with like 400 points that year and then left to play juniors

  • @HardRockMiner
    @HardRockMiner 7 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    The Canadian Knights of The Round Table.

    • @riff2072
      @riff2072 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Add Howe and Béliveau for the even half dozen.

    • @nolanmacphee4761
      @nolanmacphee4761 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yzerman Sakic dionne lafleur Francis Esposito at the second table maybe. Crazy how many legends are Canadian

  • @LegosDeus
    @LegosDeus 7 ปีที่แล้ว +208

    One trait unites them all: HUMBLE

    • @bbb462cid
      @bbb462cid 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      well said

    • @dakruise1
      @dakruise1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Unlike the NBA

    • @ronbonora7872
      @ronbonora7872 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      and Great!

    • @caindog29
      @caindog29 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Literally each one of them would say the other 3 are better.

    • @PapaJoeB
      @PapaJoeB 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@dakruise1 You don't think BIll Russell, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Dr. J, Larry Bird and Magic are humble in interviews such as this? Because that's what the comparison is here...

  • @happytrails1963
    @happytrails1963 6 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Bobby Orr...... such a legend

    • @gollese
      @gollese 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You forgot the other guys! And gretzky, being so far ahead on the top - Unreal!

    • @jimwade2045
      @jimwade2045 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Orr best

    • @manrajcheema6453
      @manrajcheema6453 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nicke5487 First of all your grammar is atrocious. He wasn't overrated, was more than a ppg player, Canada cup MVP, two time champion, countless all star games. He's not the best but he is the best defensemen ever, and belongs at that table. Messier was way less than ppg player, played with the GOAT in Gretzky who was the main contribution to his rings, and missed 10 all star games.

    • @manrajcheema6453
      @manrajcheema6453 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nicke5487 Also wth does "Call me kid when your brains grow bigger", you seem very idiotic.

    • @manrajcheema6453
      @manrajcheema6453 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nicke5487
      I don't care about what you do and don't like, you cannot respect someone yet still call them overrated, that in itself is a contradiction.

  • @popinstock
    @popinstock 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I could sit at this table listening to these guys for hours !

  • @bailinnumberguy
    @bailinnumberguy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    Amazing to see these 4 together. Messier, Gretzky and Lemieux, as kids in Canada, undoubtedly grew up idolizing Orr. Great stuff.

    • @bbb462cid
      @bbb462cid 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Well...Gretzky's idol was Gordie Howe.

    • @jimwade7680
      @jimwade7680 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And ever one oz was orr

    • @4inchesofpleasure
      @4inchesofpleasure 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Randy Bailin Lemieux's was Guy Lafleur

    • @thebigpicture2032
      @thebigpicture2032 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@4inchesofpleasure and Gretzky

    • @bmoshareholderappleshareho855
      @bmoshareholderappleshareho855 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's like having Elvis Presley, The Beatles, and Micheal Jackson all in the same room together.

  • @CanadianBongRipper
    @CanadianBongRipper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    When Orr was talking you could tell how they were paying attention. The goat.

    • @RevAlKhemy
      @RevAlKhemy 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      give Bobby the puck

  • @mikes3827
    @mikes3827 6 ปีที่แล้ว +147

    To be arguably the greatest hockey player ever, t's almost unfathomable to think that 3 games into his NHL career, Orr had a knee injury, and consequently had TWELVE surgeries on both knees over his career. And keep in mind when Orr played, they didn't have scopes and the technology to make a "clean" procedure. Each of his 12 operations were about going in and tearing the knee up. It really is mind-blowing to think that as great as Orr was, imagine HOW much greater he could have been without his chronic knee problems. Similarly with Mario and his chronic bad back that plagued him throughout much of his career.

    • @dgcmusi
      @dgcmusi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Mike S great point Mike...thinking how much greater he could have been...mind blowing...he definitely was mesmerizing watching him...especially a man down doing the ....catch me...👀

    • @jamesd2128
      @jamesd2128 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      A lot like Mickey Mantle who completely blew out his knee in the 1950 WS [His rookie year] and played the rest of his career without an ACL or MCL, and still put up numbers most could only dream about. If only Bobby and Mick could've had the kinds of knee repair we take for granted now.

    • @Excalibur2112
      @Excalibur2112 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      He was better on 1.5 legs than most hockey players on 2.

    • @aapelireijonen1839
      @aapelireijonen1839 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If i won in a lottery i would be rich ,stop with ifs cant know what would have happened for sure

    • @lawrencewright2816
      @lawrencewright2816 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nobody told him about the topical application of DMSO.

  • @rosannarossi4472
    @rosannarossi4472 7 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    Gretzky and Lemieux together the best of the best got to love it.

    • @gregpek6191
      @gregpek6191 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Like the 87 Canada Cup. That is where Mario said he really learned the work effort from Wayne. Those two were on a different planet that last three games.

    • @ORagnar
      @ORagnar 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Orr is right there with them. He may have been the greatest.

    • @gregpek6191
      @gregpek6191 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      In many ways, all three of them were the best. I think better than Gordie Howe mind you Gordie is all time second on the scoring numbers total. Mario was in ways better than Gretzky on a pure scoring basis but he had physical advantages. Those physical advantages (height and size) also made him vulnerable to back injury.
      Bobby Orr in my mind was the best skater ever and was magic.
      But to me Gretzky was too small and too skinny to be good. Yet somehow he was just the best. I think that counts in my book to make him the number 1 just because of his sheer numbers given his puny size.

    • @4orrcountry
      @4orrcountry 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Greg Pek Among Gordie Howe, Red Fisher, Milt Schmidt and Ron Wilson, they saw ALL NHL players from the 1930's right up through 2010 - and each of those esteemed hockey men said that Bobby Orr was the best player they ever saw. Do you know more about hockey than them?

    • @4orrcountry
      @4orrcountry 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Rosanna Rossi You mean the best of the players who you got to see play. Did you see Gordie Howe play? Or Bobby Orr?

  • @sagedemko8696
    @sagedemko8696 6 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    When Orr says "sorry to interrupt" too McLean and he replies " you played for don,you learned something" now that was funny

  • @michaelcanney7218
    @michaelcanney7218 5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Bobby orr, the best

  • @johnarouet5030
    @johnarouet5030 7 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    Hockey players are awesome. So humble and classy compared to the other big time leagues.

    • @lastlaff2777
      @lastlaff2777 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      The only league, outside of maybe soccer, where the players all wear suits to the games.

    • @richard_nj
      @richard_nj 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      They're Canadian. Nuff said

    • @miker7115
      @miker7115 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@richard_nj Yeah, but so are guys like Tom Wilson & Brad Marchand.

    • @gunman462
      @gunman462 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@miker7115 Great point but those guys are rare.

    • @jujuun8992
      @jujuun8992 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@gunman462 Mark Messier is on the same level of being dirty as Wilson and Marchand, though.

  • @hebber1961
    @hebber1961 7 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    That could go on for hours. Too short.

  • @chipgriffiths3655
    @chipgriffiths3655 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    A guy came down on my shoulder, I don't remember his name. Yeah, sure, it's that you are such a class player that you wouldn't name him. Class. My respect for Messier grew immensely during this interview. He just sat there and let the others speak.

    • @erickouniakis5722
      @erickouniakis5722 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Messier was always a class act even when he was a kid in St Albert our home town.!! Hockey in the 80's was second to none.!!!

  • @ericbrufatto5371
    @ericbrufatto5371 6 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Ron McLean is a treasure, and the best, and I suspect often overlooked, as the best hockey broadcaster and interviewer ever. Ron has such a quick mind and verbal skills, and an an amazing facility to recall anecdotes so accurately. The highlight for me Saturday night, even if I don't watch the game, is to try and catch "Coaches Corner." Ron deals with Don, like a loving son, or an excellent therapist with a client, and of course, Don is a treasure himself.

    • @alex_sceptionqc1175
      @alex_sceptionqc1175 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry, the greatest le John Forslund

    • @mithex8414
      @mithex8414 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      lmao this comment didnt age well

  • @brettdwyer1635
    @brettdwyer1635 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Orr's statements are just AWESOME

  • @bossduff
    @bossduff 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Who in the heck could have given this a thumbs down?
    Greatness at the table

    • @rvermeulen66
      @rvermeulen66 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Russians

    • @ChyloeReece
      @ChyloeReece 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      rvermeulen66 Ovechkin idolized Lemieux, (and Nolan) as I'm sure many other Russians did as well, or another Canadian great. While you and so many other Canadians want to be prejudiced and condescending and project it onto everyone around you, Russians appear to have far more class and dignity.

    • @martytruelove5026
      @martytruelove5026 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably because McLean is doing the interview.

    • @beaumontracer1640
      @beaumontracer1640 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably because it's TOO short.

  • @bkscollections2491
    @bkscollections2491 6 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Bobby Orr was the best.

  • @briancarroll3232
    @briancarroll3232 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    So respectful of history of game and one another

  • @davidcaruso5491
    @davidcaruso5491 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I could listen to these greats for hours.

  • @Mike-ji8ez
    @Mike-ji8ez 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    All 4 guys have humility and CLASS!

  • @johnmanor5236
    @johnmanor5236 6 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Love it! Orr interrupts Maclean..."You played for Don (Cherry) you learned something."

    • @paulthake7963
      @paulthake7963 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hahaha ya that was good. Ron's as sharp as they come

  • @calcrappie8507
    @calcrappie8507 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    The few times I saw Gretzky playing in person I watched him like a hawk. The guy would conserve energy away from the direct action. Gretzky would almost park and hide near the mid ice boards watching everything. His defender would tend to lose focus. Then Gretz would explode and arrive at the right place at the right time and be a couple of steps ahead of developments taking place on the ice. He had an incredible sense of flow and where to be. Orr was completely different. Just give him the puck. He had a commanding presence on the ice and the game revolved around him. Orr could keep the puck away from a team on a power play for almost the whole 2 minutes. Never saw a player like that. You simply couldn't get the puck away from him.

    • @rmelin13231
      @rmelin13231 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You are spot on, both counts. Completely different style players, not to be compared.

    • @calronske1853
      @calronske1853 ปีที่แล้ว

      Orr was something else!

    • @JayRay-zv7hd
      @JayRay-zv7hd ปีที่แล้ว

      Orr may have been the best puck handler and skater while puck handling of all time.

  • @crowlee5111
    @crowlee5111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What a table of the greatest ever. Next table yzermen , Sakic , Jagr , forsberg

  • @patrickhobbs3962
    @patrickhobbs3962 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome table. All five of them have given us so many hockey memories.

  • @DexterHaven
    @DexterHaven 6 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    3:10 as good as these other guys were, ORR was on a different level. He controlled the puck from end to end. No one else did it like him, ever. Think about this: he was the first defenseman to lead the league in scoring. He broke the mold.

    • @DexterHaven
      @DexterHaven 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Les Moore yeah, Crosby belongs at any table of greats, the skating edgework...

    • @jaychip1
      @jaychip1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not only the first. Still the ONLY. He would have 100 goals as a forward.

    • @daniellysohirka5079
      @daniellysohirka5079 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      3 time Art Ross as defenseman in 8 seasons, not even playing all games in each.

    • @trevorclapham5571
      @trevorclapham5571 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jaychip1 I thinking the same. Not just the first but the only defence man to do it.

    • @kodalycat906
      @kodalycat906 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Really, if Pronovost doesn' take out that knee...can you imagine how even more robust the legend would be? What a supremely skilled and intelligent hockey player he was. Only exceeded by his generosity of spirit, his class and respect for the sport. All fans, including this Habs fan, should be grateful for his contribution on and off the ice.

  • @bobdonovan34
    @bobdonovan34 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I'm glad Bobby recognizes the term "God Given Talent" takes away from the relentless hard work these athletes put in to achieve their levels of greatness.

    • @jameswade9375
      @jameswade9375 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      thank god for orr saying that...

    • @keepingitreel...8037
      @keepingitreel...8037 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jameswade9375 - Amen brother! God did indeed give them the talent, by giving them the love of the sport,
      and the desire to work hard enough to become all that God had planned for them to become. . .

    • @Jim-pq9pm
      @Jim-pq9pm 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's why he was the best

    • @NoCluYT
      @NoCluYT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      God gives you the tools, but you gotta do the work.

    • @v4v819
      @v4v819 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's like saying God given seeds takes away the hard days work of the farmer... Doesn't matter how much you water soil, if there's no seeds planted underneath, there will be no fruits from your labor!

  • @Jim-sc2im
    @Jim-sc2im 5 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Orr was the best all around hockey player I've ever seen.

    • @Jim-pq9pm
      @Jim-pq9pm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Can't argue with that

    • @KristenHammerback-pk5wy
      @KristenHammerback-pk5wy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nope. Gretzky.

    • @Jim-pq9pm
      @Jim-pq9pm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@KristenHammerback-pk5wy All around. Gretzky had a very limited physical game, and not a very powerful shot. Orr could do it all

    • @jeffreykaufmann2867
      @jeffreykaufmann2867 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jim-pq9pm Orr's Slapshot wasn't any harder than Gretzky's.

    • @Jim-pq9pm
      @Jim-pq9pm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jeffreykaufmann2867 Honestly, there's some missing context here. I don't remember what Amelie Lopez said, and they deleted the comment.
      I don't think having a weaker or stronger shot of any kind necessarily makes you better or worse, however, Orr did take shots from the point, which has always been reserved for someone with a powerful shot.

  • @m.alexanderzagorski3868
    @m.alexanderzagorski3868 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This served as invaluable wisdom from a collection of hockey's living legends!

  • @benpearse4298
    @benpearse4298 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    4 greatest players of all time all from Canada 🇨🇦

    • @keepingitreel...8037
      @keepingitreel...8037 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      God-given talent comes from all over the world. Even from Canada. But they all live in America now!
      And they could certainly live wherever they wanted to. . .

    • @RazrSharpProductions
      @RazrSharpProductions 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Messier is NOT top 4 of all time. Great player with all due respect, but Howe, Jagr, Lidstrom, Crosby, Hasek just to name a few I’d put before Messier

  • @michaelborek378
    @michaelborek378 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    All these gentlemen are as classy as they are legends. All these guys are so humble

  • @russelljdj
    @russelljdj 7 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Robert Gordon Orr! Nuff Said.

  • @safertobeanonymous2224
    @safertobeanonymous2224 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Could you imagine 3 of the 4 greatest of all time and another super elite player like this in any other sports this humble and respectful of each other and other players?
    This is what makes hockey so special!

    • @v4v819
      @v4v819 ปีที่แล้ว

      Messier may not be on the mount rushmore of hockey... But he as one of the greatest captains/leaders in sports- hockey be damned! He was pure and simply a winner he won in all levels and on every big stage... If you were a general manager and wanted close to two decades of contention for your team then you be hard up doing much better than drafting Messier as your centerpiece and anchor! And Wayne never won without him, Mess won without Wayne and Coffee twice (6 total)!

  • @BillMorganChannel
    @BillMorganChannel 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for posting. Great talent, great gentlemen...

  • @bobdennis2745
    @bobdennis2745 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Most people have no idea what a strong work ethic these gentleman had at an early age that made them better than the rest. I am a lifelong Oiler fan and was fortunate enough to watch #99 and #11 play together for years... We were spoiled. Four truly great men and great Canadian's... Thank you for making us all better.

  • @MikeyD22
    @MikeyD22 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Add Gordie Howe to this group and you have the Mount Rushmore of Hockey. True legends and class acts.

    • @letdomf
      @letdomf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Replace Messier with Richard and then you have it

    • @roberthuot7887
      @roberthuot7887 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@letdomf correct

    • @tonybleau6219
      @tonybleau6219 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      By the time he's done playing, Crosby over Messier 👌

    • @slauzon01
      @slauzon01 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tonybleau6219 He's already above him. Crosby is a top 5 for sure

    • @claude878878
      @claude878878 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@slauzon01 Here's the official ranking as greatest of all time... 1- Mario. 2- Wayne. 3- Orr. 4- Sid. 5- Howe. No one else in hockey history comes near these guys.

  • @C_MP_LENT88
    @C_MP_LENT88 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bobby Orr has to be the nicest superstar any sport has ever seen. Hes just so gracious and humble

    • @vinceniederman
      @vinceniederman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      One of My Dad’s Favorite NHL Player Even Though He Was a Boston Bruins Player Before Getting Traded To Chicago

  • @randybailin4902
    @randybailin4902 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Arguably the 3 greatest players of all time sitting at that table and Messier isn't too far behind.

    • @raybo780
      @raybo780 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No argument from me on those three, no one else is even close (Howe and Richard are two who some might mention, but those are more legacy picks from where I sit)

    • @sageantone7291
      @sageantone7291 ปีที่แล้ว

      They all agree that Gordie was the greatest.

    • @JackBirdbath
      @JackBirdbath ปีที่แล้ว

      Messier is quite far behind.

    • @bmoshareholderappleshareho855
      @bmoshareholderappleshareho855 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wait a minute. Messier is third in all-time points. That is quite an accomplishment. I doubt any future hockey player beat that.

  • @Magik1369
    @Magik1369 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember watching all these guys, especially Bobby Orr. We had maybe 10 channels on TV and you had to adjust the antenna just right to get the game from Boston. My whole family would stay glued to the TV. Amazing.

  • @raybo780
    @raybo780 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I love all these guys, but something about Mario just gets me….he such a cool headed, even-handed boss. Not enough is said about how amazing his accomplishments were in spite of so many very serious health issues

    • @siddiq106
      @siddiq106 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      dude has a serious case for the GOAT of any sport.

  • @dknadeau0912
    @dknadeau0912 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’d love to sit here and listen to them tell stories for hours. So cool

  • @slovenskosvet2717
    @slovenskosvet2717 7 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Lemieux is a very charming man.

    • @gregpek6191
      @gregpek6191 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      They all are. In fact I don't know of one other sport anywhere where such great legends are so diplomatic, so kind and decent and so gentle. Like Howe.

  • @scrambie
    @scrambie 7 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Sportsnet wanted to invite John Scott but they were worried he'd steal everyone's thunder.

    • @jimwade7680
      @jimwade7680 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Scramblieggs best player for one day

  • @realtome100
    @realtome100 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    BOBBY ORR THE BEST EVER PERIOD.

    • @earlviney5212
      @earlviney5212 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bullshit. That would be lemieux

    • @ChrisE-iy7ok
      @ChrisE-iy7ok 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@earlviney5212 lemieux and orr but lemieux only by talent not achievements

  • @gambl0r
    @gambl0r 7 ปีที่แล้ว +123

    surreal seeing the 4 greatest hockey players of all time sitting at the same table, alive and well

    • @LeFoxer
      @LeFoxer 7 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      mark messier is not top 4 = gordie howe , mike bossy , domink hasek , patrick roy , jaromir jagr are better

    • @garchbrown
      @garchbrown 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Wrong. Messier is actually the greatest hockey player of all time.

    • @allyboybarese2689
      @allyboybarese2689 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Stevie Y

    • @SuperSurviver71
      @SuperSurviver71 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Zachary Lee You can't be serious

    • @RawDogTV
      @RawDogTV 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Gambl0r missing Mike Bossy

  • @joepalooka2145
    @joepalooka2145 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Well, I'm an old-timer so I'm biased, but I agree with Bobby Clarke's quote that "Bobby Orr was so good they should have created another league just for him to play in". Best player of all time for me, and sadly very short because of his knee injury. Other great NHL players speak of him with awe and enormous respect. Had he not been injured, we can only speculate on how much greater he would have become. He changed the game, and no other defenceman since has ever equalled his record.

    • @jimwade5712
      @jimwade5712 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Me too.....

    • @Tsamokie
      @Tsamokie 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Orr controlled the game like no other player could.

  • @thegootz4547
    @thegootz4547 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Orr is very humble, he never thought he was a great talent, just worked harder than anyone.
    Messier is very humble, he knows he is not the best player at the table, but definitely the toughest with talent.
    Wayne is humble in that he too knows he is not the best player, more of a product of a time in hockey and a great supporting cast.
    If Sid was at the table instead of still playing as the best player in hockey for almost 10 straight years, longer than any other player in history, he would be the most humble, he just loves to play hockey but would yield to the hosts pick of the greatest goal by the greatest player ever.
    Mario is the most wonderful role model, coaches his son in local hockey games, settled down with his childhood schoolmate, maintains his roots living in Canada as well as Pittsburgh, stayed with the same team his entire life, masterful business decisions with his team, a player, an owner
    He towers above them all.

    • @chrishager3308
      @chrishager3308 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mario has done so much for hockey, Considering his personal gifts and saving hockey in Pittsburgh, he certainly deserves all possible accolades.

    • @mikegike7273
      @mikegike7273 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I heard earlier in Marios career, Wayne talked to Mario about his being a role model and he should consider stop smoking. He stopped that day. If it is a true story, Wayne had such an impact on Marios admiration towards him. All 4, thanks fer the memories. Go Canada.

  • @TrueNorthPatriot
    @TrueNorthPatriot 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    These great athletes are also fine human beings. Proud and confident, yet self-effacing and humble. It's what separates hockey from some other sports. No prima donnas. All-Canadian boys. And yes, Ron McLean, while not a hockey player, is one of the best, if not the best, sports hosts in any sports ever. Pure greatness all around. People today criticize hockey players for being boring. Those people conflate boring with humble and team-first.

  • @johntate9612
    @johntate9612 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow ! Thank you for that. ..FANtastic.....!!!

  • @theGENIUSofART-understood
    @theGENIUSofART-understood 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    All defer to Orr,,, all being Gretz, Mario and Mess... wow. awesome.

  • @thaturaniumguy
    @thaturaniumguy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Knights of the Round Table!

  • @kidt3068
    @kidt3068 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I was the 6th invite to the round table but I had pickup hockey that night

  • @ejomamma6234
    @ejomamma6234 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3 unbelievable players!
    Super nice to hear the humble confidence, and humor of Bobby Orr, especially. The world could take many lessons from any of the 3!!!

  • @earlviney5212
    @earlviney5212 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Lemieux the most talented player id ever seen. Quote from orr himself

    • @codekhalil6437
      @codekhalil6437 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wayne said that as well of him. Such praise

    • @irmadisimone2963
      @irmadisimone2963 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@codekhalil6437 what are they gonna say i was better

    • @ChrisE-iy7ok
      @ChrisE-iy7ok 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lemieux goal/game ratio is the best in hockey history by some distance

    • @rickymainville5590
      @rickymainville5590 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ChrisE-iy7ok as much as i like Mario...Bossy's goal per game is top all time 🤷‍♂️

    • @silntstl
      @silntstl 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rickymainville5590 He should have said points per game.

  • @RadeenChoudhury
    @RadeenChoudhury 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Ron Maclean is such a gem man, one of the most, if not the most respectable media guy out there

  • @chais1111
    @chais1111 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As individual i like Gretzky but i love Lemieux and Orr. Very humble and top class.

    • @shooter1973
      @shooter1973 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mario grew into that. People forget he didn't even get out of his seat when drafted by Pittsburgh. Imagine if a player did that today. So he loses a few points there if we are talking class.

    • @bmoshareholderappleshareho855
      @bmoshareholderappleshareho855 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shooter1973 What about Eric Lindros? He refused to put on the Quebec jersey and refused to play for the Nordiques.

    • @shooter1973
      @shooter1973 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bmoshareholderappleshareho855 if he were sitting there I would've mentioned him.

  • @calronske1853
    @calronske1853 ปีที่แล้ว

    4 of my all-time favorites. Wow!

  • @adamowen6226
    @adamowen6226 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Orr was on another level.

  • @mikemeyer7759
    @mikemeyer7759 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for mentioning Yzerman...

  • @DailyWordsofWisdom888
    @DailyWordsofWisdom888 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome interview. Wish it could have gone longer with these 4 Legends!

    • @bmoshareholderappleshareho855
      @bmoshareholderappleshareho855 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's like having Elvis Presley, the Beatles, and Micheal Jackson all in the same room together.

    • @DailyWordsofWisdom888
      @DailyWordsofWisdom888 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That actually happened ine time with Elvis, Beatles, Rolling Stones and thevDoors.​@bmoshareholderappleshareho855

  • @cindyallcott905
    @cindyallcott905 ปีที่แล้ว

    BOBBY ORR WAS THE MOST HUMBLE PLAYER. LOVED WATCHING HIM PLAY. SAW HIM IN LONDON ONTARIO TRAINING CAMP.

  • @MartinMcClellanGT
    @MartinMcClellanGT 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The bosses!! My Lemieux is there !! 😎 love him !!

  • @kenarthur6253
    @kenarthur6253 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow! What a group of all-time Greats!!!!! And Ovechkin just passed 2 of them in goals this year.

    • @stephengaal2064
      @stephengaal2064 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gonna be fun watching ovi make his run at that career goals record. Woulda thought that was an impossible record to break with the differences in the game now

  • @roberttooth360
    @roberttooth360 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Bobby had such a unique style. Made his team so much better with his heads up passing and end to end rushes. He was a + 128 or something one year pretty much M.V.P. Stuff right there

  • @erickdeveau8635
    @erickdeveau8635 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hockey is thee greatest sport on the planet, ever, period. With the thee greatest guys ever. Especially back in the day. Still today too. I love these guys, Bobby Orr was my favorite, being from Boston and played myself as a kid till after high school. Thank god for the beautiful game of hockey everyone!

  • @ethanyeomans7362
    @ethanyeomans7362 7 ปีที่แล้ว +130

    Arguably the 4 greatest players ever. The only one missing there is Howe

    • @paulsullivan1650
      @paulsullivan1650 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ethan Yeomans You couldn't be any more accurate with your statement...

    • @24BIGDYL
      @24BIGDYL 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Don't forget about the rocket. 50 goals in 50 games was incredible back in his day

    • @markthomas1097
      @markthomas1097 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And maybe Hull as well.

    • @kathywilkins269
      @kathywilkins269 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      and JEAN

    • @shizuokaBLUES
      @shizuokaBLUES 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Who would be the best American , if one was to be invited at the table? Mike Modano?

  • @TBONEMCT
    @TBONEMCT 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    All great ambassadors of the sport.

  • @RKO859
    @RKO859 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    5 GOATS in the same room.

  • @whitebeard24601
    @whitebeard24601 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice! Five of the greatest of their profession!

  • @goalscorerlajon
    @goalscorerlajon 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    How ironic: 4 people disliked this. What the hell? These are without a doubt the 4 greatest players ever!

    • @alvinkim1
      @alvinkim1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bc it was too short! 😭

    • @hockeyslade
      @hockeyslade 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or old blind fellas missing the like button

  • @moemanncann895
    @moemanncann895 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Enjoyed this video, thanks for sharing. "Kids watch you guys on the ice, that's how you lead". So true Bobby 🇨🇦👍

  • @patricktiglao
    @patricktiglao 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Orr is so cool. He even gave a shout out to #7 Paul Coffey.

  • @scaletipping4715
    @scaletipping4715 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wild. All legends but they all know Orr is the hero.

  • @cityofchamps66
    @cityofchamps66 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Little bit of talent at that table, feel fortunate to have met Super Mario and The Great one, so very humble

  • @anthonymagliaro364
    @anthonymagliaro364 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    when you think of Canadian hockey, you can't do better than these 4 men...and what Ambassadors for Canadian hockey....well spoken, humble, and great talent

  • @thunder5843
    @thunder5843 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Orr is such legend. He could compete today very well if he was young no doubt in my mind

    • @bc1173
      @bc1173 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Orr was absolutely ridiculous.

    • @iiiirootiiii
      @iiiirootiiii 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I recently heard Derek Sanderson make the statement that Bobby Orr was as great as he was at a time before expansion, when everyone in the league was superb talent, as opposed to after expansion when the talent pool was watered down. Yeah, Mr. Orr would have done just fine competing today!!

  • @flyingbeaver900
    @flyingbeaver900 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh the memories of a better time.
    Orr lights up a room with his charisma. The most gifted pure hockey talent. #1
    Lemieux so cool as a cucumber. Graceful. Beautiful on the ice.
    Gretzky incredible work ethic, in before everyone - out after everyone, hockey has been a lifelong passion, no one else can match that passion. His Dad was the goal of most men in the day, his passion is what gave birth to Wayne’s
    Messier - very strong. Strong impact on the game, but that chair belongs to Bobby Howe. Orr, Howe, Gretzky, Lemieux.
    Howe is so missed.

  • @korchok32
    @korchok32 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Lemieux is the GOAT

    • @ThouSwell-zx3fd
      @ThouSwell-zx3fd ปีที่แล้ว

      Gretzky was the most statistically dominant *athlete* of all time, never mind hockey.

  • @truckerman8301
    @truckerman8301 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Any kid seeking to play in the NHL should follow the careers of these guys! All great players and each one an absolute ambassador for the game of hockey. Some of Canada's finest people!!

  • @24BIGDYL
    @24BIGDYL 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The final generation of true hockey players

    • @joelbyers7937
      @joelbyers7937 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      24BIGDYL what does even mean?

    • @gollese
      @gollese 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Final generation lol, do you forget 1990-2010 era. Probably the fastest and brutal era. :) Stacked era.

  • @vinnyl6256
    @vinnyl6256 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pure Legends!!!

  • @robertchflynn
    @robertchflynn 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Messier was a stud superstar and one of the best leaders of all time in all sport. What a career, what a player!!! And he sticks out like a sore thumb right there...

    • @vincentmittica9001
      @vincentmittica9001 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Greatest leader in the history of all sports. A champion. Of champions

    • @BRuane-pw6xq
      @BRuane-pw6xq 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      In his last 7 Seasons, NO Playoff Appearances. !!!!!!

    • @conorwreckoner
      @conorwreckoner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Plus the dirtiest sneaky scumbag ever

    • @briancharters8720
      @briancharters8720 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If Mario played the number of games the others did… HE would have the RECORD to break

    • @v4v819
      @v4v819 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sad but true... But he does have one thing over Wayne and all of them else... He won 6 cups and 2 without Wayne and Coffee. Wayne never won without him! He also has more game winning goals then Wayne and everyone else on that panel... He's also 3rd all time in career points in the NHL. So it's hard to argue with numbers!

  • @MickPsyphon
    @MickPsyphon 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Some of the greatest players to ever lace skates!

  • @earlviney5212
    @earlviney5212 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Bang for your buck. Lemieux greatest of all time

    • @irmadisimone2963
      @irmadisimone2963 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      not even close

    • @earlviney5212
      @earlviney5212 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If these guys were all on the ice they would never have the puck because lemieux would have it all the time.

    • @theodorebelmont7922
      @theodorebelmont7922 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@earlviney5212 that's very true. Then add Jagr to the RW and nobody else will touch the puck

    • @sammyweed4771
      @sammyweed4771 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Messier would go check him take the puck and that pus would do nothing, he’s the only all around player there, no disrespect to those guys they where playmakers, but messier would fight knock you on your ass, kind of player

    • @theodorebelmont7922
      @theodorebelmont7922 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sammyweed4771i love Moose too but Mario was another level. He also beat Messier in the playoffs several times.

  • @simgames9133
    @simgames9133 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    at 1:32 ....the best of all time nhl player telling this story , man !!! ....this guy is not only a legend of hockey , but an amazing human being and probably the best hockey ambassador in the world today !

  • @gamingguy6169
    @gamingguy6169 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Goats 🐐 in the same room

  • @ghostspectre1861
    @ghostspectre1861 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Orr: "Is that all?" Laughed my ass off.

  • @jimwade7680
    @jimwade7680 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Orr the best all round real hockey player up there......he play the full 200 ft game...the way it should be.... he had the biggest tool box.....he could do it all.......

    • @cascorick8253
      @cascorick8253 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Jim Wade he wrecked his knees for his love of water skiing, he love to water-ski barefooted, he taught me how to ski when I was 12 years old!

    • @andyp2971
      @andyp2971 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      He also only lasted 8 years in the NHL

    • @KristenHammerback-pk5wy
      @KristenHammerback-pk5wy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      His record didn't come close to Gretzky's, not even close.

    • @jimw4337
      @jimw4337 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cascorick8253 so your one that did god knees in,learning you how to ski..lol.... I'm from Georgian Bay too,and loved water skiing...

  • @jamesmarr8736
    @jamesmarr8736 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bobby Orr the greatest Hockey Player Of All Time..

  • @tonygriffin6144
    @tonygriffin6144 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    gretzky is like 4 days older than me,the great one.but i think the best player of all time is bobby orr,he got the scoring title,like 2 times or more as a defenseman,amazing.

    • @keepingitreel...8037
      @keepingitreel...8037 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      And no other Defenseman in NHL History has ever won a scoring title.
      Bobby Orr is 2nd all time in +/- and Raymond Bourque is 3rd all time.
      (Larry Robinson is 1st and Wayne Gretzky is 4th)

    • @ryanblaney2193
      @ryanblaney2193 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Orr is great but I'll go with Gretzky for goat.

  • @genxmark
    @genxmark 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow.. what a group of legends

  • @joeytomaselli112
    @joeytomaselli112 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The best leader
    The best passer
    The best defence-man
    The most talented player of all time ( Mario )

  • @brucewayne3602
    @brucewayne3602 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    absolutely incredible other worldly talent ... perhaps not ever again !!!

  • @iceking1580
    @iceking1580 7 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I'm a die hard Oilers fan and no question Gretzky was one of the greatest all time but I gotta say if Lemieux stayed healthy and played a full career I think he would have been just as good if not better than Gretzky.

    • @billpierson5830
      @billpierson5830 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      not taking away from gretzky but lemeuix was better

    • @crushit9576
      @crushit9576 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      If Lemieux would have been healthy and started with a team loaded with superstars like Gretzky did. Yes I am sure he would've passed him.
      Ask any hockey players.. When you play with good players...you make more points.

    • @Yorkwoods44
      @Yorkwoods44 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He would’ve came close but was never on par to have equaled Gretzky.

    • @crushit9576
      @crushit9576 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Of course he wasn't on par to have equaled Gretzky... He started with the worst team in hockey. Unlike Gretzky who started with an all star team. And Lemieux had cancer. Anyone who has or had cancer knows that it's always something you have in mind even if you beat it. Cancer always comes back.

    • @jimwade7680
      @jimwade7680 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Allmost as good as orr..

  • @venomous1240
    @venomous1240 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There will never be another Bobby Orr

    • @bmoshareholderappleshareho855
      @bmoshareholderappleshareho855 ปีที่แล้ว

      There will never be another Wayne Gretzky either. Paul Coffey came close to being a Bobby Orr.

  • @kenvee2166
    @kenvee2166 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What great players.... and is Lemieux huge or what?!

  • @miker7115
    @miker7115 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Greatness & class.

  • @Mariodolphins1010
    @Mariodolphins1010 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mario Lemieux the best player at the table

    • @irmadisimone2963
      @irmadisimone2963 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yea 99 2000 points in 837 mario 1751 in 915

    • @irmadisimone2963
      @irmadisimone2963 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      look at their plus minus stats orr was #1 99#4 #1 among offensive players mario like not even on the radar

  • @johnm1720
    @johnm1720 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love all these guys