Volkswagen ID. Buzz Review: Dream Van or EV Nightmare? | Henry Catchpole - The Driver’s Seat
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- The new Volkswagen ID. Buzz isn’t officially a campervan… yet. That will come with the longer wheelbase version (which is also the version which will eventually be available in the USA). However, Henry Catchpole has found a way to turn it into a Camper. With the ingenious Ququq BusBox-4 you can quickly convert the VW ID. Buzz into a mobile bedroom and kitchen. It’s not quite a full Westfalia-style transformation but it is rather appealing, not least because you can slide the whole thing out and revert the Buzz to its original five-seat layout.
Of course you might be the sort of person that thinks hotels were invented for a reason but still likes the idea of owning a Buzz. And why not, because it’s a very funky looking vehicle with its optional two-tone paint (this one is Bay Leaf green) and it seems to make the world a slightly happier place wherever you go.
The fact that the ID. Buzz is an EV is both a blessing and curse. It’s a boon because it makes it feel refined and relatively quick - not things you usually associate with a vehicle like this. However, with a 77kWh battery the Buzz doesn’t have a great range and, if you live in the UK, the charging network still feels inadequate if you want to have an adventure that takes you further than 100miles from your driveway.
Then there’s the festive fun. Santa Claus would certainly be able to fit plenty of presents in the back of a Buzz (although an ID. Buzz Cargo would be even better) and there is room for a tree on the dashboard (look closely). With bi-directional charging you could even use it to help run all the Christmas lights at home. And yes, the decoration is real (there’s a link below if you want one).
We hope you enjoy the film - a slightly more perched version of The Driver’s Seat. Let us know what you think of the Buzz in the comments down below: do you think it would make sense as an alternative to a more conventional family EV like a Tesla Model Y?
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Hope you all enjoy this bit of festive fun! A Happy Christmas to you all and thank you for the support this year. Here’s to lots more exciting films in 2023…
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Thanks for yet another great review. I’ve bought my current sporty cars by trusting the reviews (600LT Spider & 718 Spyder) you given them. You certainly have never let me down. However, I ordered my ID. Buzz long before you get your hands on one. I collect mine on Friday and I am really excited about it. I’ve gone for the 1st Edition in lime yellow and candy white two tone. I’m delighted to get my hands on one so early, especially with the 2 year wait for two tone paint quoted today and I believe it gives me the perfect 3 car garage.
Merry Christmas chap
Merry Christmas, Henry. You’re the best! Keep up the great work.
Thanks Henry!
Hagerty caught a big fish when they reeled in Catchpole. Fantastic films you champs are making.
I’ve driven around Europe in an EV without problems! Last summer, 7500 km in a Polestar 2, from Oslo to Brest, to Monaco, to Torino, thru Swiss alps, around the Ring, and back to Norway! The ID Buzz would probably also manage this trip with ease!
With Tesla opening up their supercharging network to other cars in Europe, makes it even easier to find charging.
@@glennshoemake4200 In Germany finding fast Chargers without the Tesla ones is already easy that's why Range isn't really something care about here. But i heard in the UK it's terrible unless you got a Tesla, so its good they open them
The problem with this version of ID Buzz is that it has a battery size similar to Polstar 2 but in a much heavier car with much worse efficiency. Charging speeds are also far from what Tesla can do. I would love to switch to ID Buzz, but its range and charging speeds are not on par with the best EVs. I hope the long wheelbase will fix those issues.
@@distreall I own a Polestar 2, it's a brick aerodynamically speaking, and this van will be getting almost as far as it.
@@swecreations Unfortunately, it will be worse. Check Bjorn Nyland's test. I own a Model 3, and I can’t imagine downgrading so much in terms of range and charging speeds.
This will still always be more convenient than a huge pickup
lot easier to load the back of a pickup
@@markb2860 no, you try and lift a motorcycle into your truck and I will try the same into the back of a van
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@@henrik1743 drive up a ramp, do it all the time with a quad/snowmobile
@@markb2860 And have everything soaked with rain and water. You can haul a quad.
Great to see Catchpole finding a new home, Uber car nerd, always have time for it
Cool looking Van, put a bigger battery with 300miles, that would make more sense.
300 miles is still far to little
The long wheel base will have a bigger battery
Why have batteries at all except for cranking. Cut the weight 1000 lbs by substituting a fuel efficient gasoline turbo engine. Presto, no more worries about power shortages plus unlimited range.
So long as you're willing to pay the pavement-destroying-heavyweight tax. Sure.
The kerning comment was when I hit the like button. I'd have to grind that off.
I'm sorry, Mr. Catchpole. I usually do pay attention to what you say, but this time I was too busy smiling at that charming Buzz you were driving.
I think this will make a perfect camper. Recreational Vehicles tend to spend a lot of time parked at sites with access to electrical power, at least here in the U.S.
I think, especially in today's car market, that there is a solid argument for novelty.
A nice, pleasant, quirky, accurate, straightforward, honest, no glam presentation. Please continue.
Using ID. Buzz for camping is like setting a tent on parent’s backyard when you’re 11 yo.
As a happy T5 owner I have some serious reservations about the usability of the Buzz as a like-for-like swap. The Campingbox is neat, but I can't see it being used when there's rain or midges around (usually the case on holidays in Scotland or Scandinavia with our campervan), you'll be inside the vehicle. We need to sit around a table inside to eat in the evenings, I can't see there's much headroom or storage space in the much smaller cargo area . A pop-top might work here, but climate considerations in the UK mean that the van in "evening mode" has to work buttoned up rather than raised when it is cold, windy, and rainy (a fair bit of the year). And there's a huge aftermarket already for T4/T5/T6 accessories - which won't fit in the Buzz. I'm just amazed at the dimensions and range of the Buzz being so limiting and VW taking a punt on it. Time will tell I guess.
Still want/need the short wheelbase state side. Give me physical buttons, a shorter wheelbase and a cost below $50,000, and I’ll sign up!
Otherwise, VW will likely lose me to Hyundai, GM or CANOO.
Im hoping that when Cammisa gets a hold of this, it will fair better than the ID4.
The second row seats can't be removed, and the windows don't go down? I know VW isn't trying to get in on the mass-market North American minivan market with this thing, but I didn't expect them to forgo basic usability features.
I think it's just UK thing that the seats are not removable
It's a dream come true for many rich hippies
I know Electricians and Plumbers who make $200k per year. If you make $120k per year you can afford this car. In today's economy $120k does not make one rich! I worked my A$$ off, sold my business, and bought two Teslas.
It starts at $45K... Well actually that's a lot for a Hippie, so you're right only rich hippies.
@@isaiahlouisb2 To buy a $45,000 car you should have a monthly income of about $8,750 which is $105,000 per year. I do not know where you are living, but $105,000 does not make one rich!
@@michaelholliday100 Not sure what world you live in but the average income in the EU is around €55K and the average vehicle price is more than €30K.
You’re making some broad generalization as if everyone follows the same budget. Some people spend more on cars, especially cars they are going to use a lot. A bunch of “should”.
@@georgemcunty6383He thinks people care. Who goes to TH-cam just to brag about one self?
The kerning mistake that you shouted out won my heart. That kerning should be illegal.
Nice initial offering imo. As you note, nice everyday driver, but to meet real potential it needs an update to 275 - 325 mile range for folks who want to use it for a "camping" or "touring" vehicle. All wheel drive would be very beneficial as an option and the promised extended length version would really help the line-up with same updated range and AWD. Hopefully these options will be forthcoming.
Not buying any VW product till they get rid of the capacitive buttons. Literally drove an ID.4 once and my girlfriend got stuck in the back seat because the doors wouldn't unlock, the VW rep was like "just press that button" and I'm like pressing it as hard as I can with no feedback and it's doing nothing. Worked 6 presses later but was embarrassing for all involved.
Not buying a VW product until hell freezes over.
@@David_Journey Yeah VW isn't on my shortlist anyways. I guess I should rephrase to say the lack of physical buttons is one of many reasons they're not in the running, it's not like I'm waiting for them to bring back buttons.
@@ShadowRaptor8 they will add buttons in the next gen products
VW is scrambling to update it's user interface. It's easy to believe they designed that system without any consumer input. I wouldn't consider a VW with the new capacitive buttons. The feel of the switchgear on my old BMW is one of the nicest things about it. Even though it has Idrive, I can perform almost any function without looking.
@@dougrobinson8602 but capacitive touch is modern
I have a ID3 and this "waiting for hours to charge" thing that people trot out is not an issue in practice. With the exception of really long distance drivers I can do 300 miles comfortably with just a 20 minute break for pee, coffee and snack and by then I've more than enough charge to reach my destination. At my parents I use a granny charger to go from flat to full, but as I'm there for a visit for a couple of days that's not an issue either. If you were going longer your stop would be a lunch break and therefore a bit longer. It's also worth saying that charging speeds are not linear. It's must faster to charge when the battery is low than in the 80-100 range when the vehicle will slow the charge down. Thus charge to 100% before you set off then charging at pitstops when the battery is low will have almost no impact on your journey time, assuming like me you need a comfort break every couple of hours.
Fantastic! Love your content Henry!
Best in class. In your own way.
It's great but it's not £60-80k great. £40k would be worth considering.
I’ve had an EV for 4 months and over 6000 miles. The first thing I did in August when I got it is went on a 2800 road trip around Europe. The charging network is fine and growing. It would be nice though if EVs had around 300 miles range at 70 mph, regardless of outside temperatures
I am shocked to not hear anyone call this out as not a van. For me, the definition of a van is the ability to get up out of the driver’s seat and walk around (fine, hunched over). If you have 6” between the seats stuffed with a center console such that to go aft you need to get out of the car and walk around in the rain, it’s not a van. It’s a small mini van pure and simple. Nobody wants that stigma. It is beautiful, I’ll agree to that. But needs to be 12” wider (and their upcoming long wheel base), to be called a van.
It is not a minivan. It is a wagon in a van shape.
I bet the mid life cycle update will make this an ace bit of kit. … That said, all the haters spilling verbal sewage over the Buzz and the T7 lifting the outgoing T6 on a huge pedestal. I really don‘t get …at all. In my eyes the T6 is heavily outdated and for its exterior format does not offer much interior space. (I grew up in a gloriously underpowered rear-engined T3 Multivan with tons of space). So I am all for it. Bring it on with progress and back to clever packaging.
Catchpole you clever lad. Good concise review as usual.
The whole point of a VW van is to have the back fall down to a bed, but also be able to sit had a little table. Otherwise, it’s just the same as any other minivan.
They've been teasing this vaporware since 2003. (I'm honestly stoked they made even a vaguely normal version.)
I agree, now I'm confused is this real?
@@halfwaydecentvehicles who knows ;) for me its real if I see the first one driving by
@@bavariancarenthusiast2722 I did see two in the real world so far. I mean. It's an EV van. So not really an impossible idea.
I've seen 3 so far here around Munich Bavaria. 2 from Dealers and 1 Press Car. Won't be long until i'll see them by Private Owners.
People forget that the Camper Van Version isn't the only popular Option. Alone in my little Village there are several ones that aren't used as Camper Vans but just by big Families, usually with 3 Kids or more. And around here in Bavaria most People have 3+ Kids
@@chartreux1532 good to hear , when I was married with children I could have used one instead had 2 chevrolet astrovan that I loved
Compared to the original VW bus, I feel this is a novelty. The original had much more interior room
This is what the Honda Element should have evolved into.
I would love to see if one could be outfitted to accommodate my daughter's wheelchair. Of course, more range would be good but in all honesty it would be plenty for most of what i need and it looks cool!
Can we please stop referring to plastic as Vegan Leather. They could just use wool or other natural hard wearing fabrics, even hemp lol. But no just use plastic because it's cheaper and whack a marketing term on it.
”Non-renewable fossil oil plastic" is a more truthful name and might curb the smug vegans' propaganda.
@@pistonburner6448 It's not vegan propaganda though, it's businesses using meaningless advertising to market to people who want to attempt to be more environmentally friendly. Whether they are or not is another question.
@@mt1104uk That's exactly vegan propaganda.
@AM What are those few you mention made from then? And which companies use this supposed 'non-fossil' plastic, on which cars?
@AM VW uses 'them'? Which materials exactly? According to which information?
Imagine cooking on that thing and the oil smell getting into the van…
Great soccer mom van! I'd rock that. Addition my my Golf R!
Idk about you but big vw vans are about carefree freedom. Kinda hard to do that when you constantly have to Google where to find a charging station on your road trips. Then waiting for it to charge every time. Not to mention you need a smart phone with you. For me, it's all about unplugging. Not constantly plugging into the grid.
Definitely a fail to not release it as a camper first imo. Camper culture been huge lately.
I have a VW Atlas that I was considering trading in as I don't take it offroad and mainly use it for family stuff. The cost of the ID Buzz is hard to justify the trade in when it does come to the US.
I guess it all depends on how much you drive. You could be surprised when you remove fuel costs
În The US you will get the 7 seat version though.
But the Atlas with the 3.6l engine is amazing as well.
@@arturpotyraa8397 The fuel costs arrive in your monthly power bill. Nothing is free folks.
Could they put pop open windows in the sliding doors instead of drop down. Least passengers could get fresh air. Save on the battery pumping aircon in.
Only Henry would introduce kerning in a car vid!!
The thing that’s very disappointing in this is the price. When first deemed ready for market, the anticipated price was around $36,000. Now, it seems out of reach for many.
Jesus Christ.
I was expecting an MSRP of $45,000 tops. $60,000 is beyond outrageous.
I like the, " Christmas jumper" start of this video :) Its nice to see people can still see reality in something as simple as, "this vs that". Aesthetics vs usefulness ratio, one might say. Factors such as color make a difference in how we perceive wants.
I would look at the Camper van to come out later but I want would like a few things. 4wheel assist when desired (Alaska Snow). Because the van would be longer I would hope there would be more battery and range , I would like 380 (Alaska Road distances). Can’t use these in winter, but solar panels on roof. More ground clearance. And U.S. model, as we have been left out of Camper Vans for decades.
So it's an electric camper van? Where do they expect us to camp? At charging stations?! I noticed the lady across the street is no longer driving her brand new mustang EV nor is the owner of the EV conversion shop driving his Tesla because it is currently -20c and the roads are snow covered. I also have a crate of salvaged li ion and ni-mh batteries salvaged from hybrids that I cannot even give away. Total B.S! How is nobody paying money to take them for recycling/reuse??????
Cause its expensive to recycle, there is barely any incentive
I love the way this looks but £60k + in the UK??? Madness
super heavy expensive beast with very small range..everything an ideal camper van is not!
What a lovely seasonal review - who does the writing of the content? And great acting from Henry. Love it. Also the Van of course like everybody seems to love it.
Henry does his own writing. He's said in podcasts that if he tries to script too much, it comes off poorly, so I think he mostly ad-libs after a bit of prep and notetaking.
Looks great only downsize is the unrealistic price
I wanna see the long wheelbase version
Is Hagerty the new motortrend
GReat Vid. ONE point: long distance travels are easily possible throughout Europe
The rear seats aren't removable? Whose bright idea was that? That's the one thing that would make this more useful than a standard SUV.
Nothing will ever beat the Vanagon.
Mr Catchpole!!! Good to se you are producing quality content again after the end of Carfection. Consider me subscribed :)
Wish it was styled more like a T1 and the interior was better laid out. Does it really need to be that big though?
4.7m? With things going at current paste it will be considered compact in 5 years
It’s the same length as a Model 3 or EV6 but offers way more room.
It should be longer.
I love the idea of that bus but I’m sad we only get the long wheelbase in the US
I mean it's just abit longer
Your roads and garages are huge compared to Europe so it's understandable, the size isn't a problem for you.
@@houssamalucad753 plus everything else is Mercedes Sprinter sized over there
Totally impractical. A nine hour trip to Denver, Co from KCMO turns into eleven or twelve. No way I’m taking it to the mountains for a camping trip
This reminds me of a Top Gear review, God do I miss that show!
I love the creation quality of this video. totally enjoying it
With all due respect to Mr. Catchpole, I find his thoughtful, scholarly analysis and delivery betrayed by a distinct lack of sartorial splendor.
I guess waiting around for charging is not quite as bad when you are in a camper van as opposed to a GT when traveling long distances. You could nap, cook a meal etc.
Also: "vegan leather", i.e. vinyl. Lol.
It probably the most sensible use of EV technology to date if only the UK charging network was as capable 🤔
VW e-Up makes the most sense as EV tbh. And probably most scooters/bikes.
This is cool though
Can Henry do a road trip through Europe in an (non-tesla) EV? I love watching the guy but the speculation on range and charging sounded like a lot of assumptions. Would love to hear the reality of it. In a Tesla it's a doddle as they have the extra network...
The VW cost-cutting measures continue to make the cars look so unappealing to me. My Golf mk7 that I bought new for $17,500 USD in 2014 has better material quality and design than the cars they are making now. The middle row of seats look so unbelievably cheap and not being removeable is a sin. The middle row windows don't roll down either. Come on VW, do better.
I’d be afraid to sleep in there, With all the fires that these cars have had. Seems dumb trust Volkswagen to build something this complicated.
Less likely to catch on fire than any of your ICE cars. ID cars have had barely any reported fires. Do some actual research before commenting something like this.
"Long European road trips.." Laughs in Canadian. Took a 2 hr drive through the mountains just to get groceries the other day. Love EVs, want one a lot, but they are useless for the region I live in due to distance and lack of infrastructure. Getting one would trap me at home. So it will have to wait until I move back to "civilization". Hybrids and ICE make more sense around here.
I think VW are taking a risk with releasing this now. The charging infrastructure isnt quite there yet, but when it is the range wont be an issue due to being sufficient high power charging stations.
Looks cool, a better take on the EV-SUV craze that the other car manufacturers are obsessed by.
In Europe it's quite good already. Benelux, France and Germany no issue. South of Italy and other more remote parts Tesla is still king. But indeed getting a lot better.
40mpg from my T6 150bhp auto. Does the south of France in a day. It's a keeper 👍🏻
What's that? I don't recognize what T6 is.
I don't like EVs. Not because I'm all "ENGINES GOOD!!! LECTRIC BAD!!". I don't like them because they have the potential to easily be 500000+ mile vehicles with minimum maintenance, but they are all loaded down with so much needless electronic crap that doesn't need to or shouldn't be electronic who's main purpose is to go bad before the driveline so when that needs to be repaired there will be so many other things wrong it "won't be worth it to fix it". But I know I am not the target market. The target market are people who stand in line in the rain/cold/snow/night to finance the latest peripheral i-device and pay subscription fees for every app they run on it even though their old one they will throw away has at least a good year left in it. If the only people who could buy new cars were people who's credit rating could get them financing in the mid 1980's we would have a lot simpler options with less chance of being affected by a chip shortage.
"Here's another electric-something, made by a company that promises to align with some intangible emotional political-something, and it weighs 9 million pounds and it goes buzzzzz. Pay out a pile of money and get onboard."
One of the nice things about the situation, is that people who don't like EVs don't have to buy one. Don't have to buy one and don't have to waste their "emotional political" energy being upset with other people who do like EVs. It's a beautiful thing :)
@@41DegreesSouth Drive your dirty EV running on coal and natural gas, charging from a broken down electric grid.
@@exothermal.sprocket it's ok buddy - we can like different things!
@@41DegreesSouth I like facts, truth, economic sense. EV's wouldn't exist if it wasn't for the World Economic Forum driving Nations out of their domestic energy functions into dead-end nonsense like turbines and solar.
@@exothermal.sprocketI don't think we are going to find a place where you and I agree on this topic. I still like EV's, you still don't and that's ok. I wish you all the best sir, and hope you have a wonderful christmas.
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Please make video on Fiat 8v supersonic ghia...
Range is already pathetic, imagine how bad it is if you put a heavy load in it.
Patiently waiting for VW to release the EV to solve all of our problems, the ID 10 T(urbo).
The 0 to 60 numbers are sad in 2023, 7-8 seconds are sort the min today and range could be better. I was excited when I first saw this a few years ago and as a contractor was looking for a small van but I could park in my urban area, sadly this is a no go for me
Nice to see something so fresh
I like this guy, he looks like a crazy scientist that is going to explode in a second 😅
I want a self driving van so I can sleep on the way to work. Heresy I know but it would be dope.
The wierd A pillar is terrible , a hazzard. The range is awful and VW software is a deal killer for anyone smart enough to learn how its supposed to be.
Can we call a spade a spade? Don't let them get away with "vegan leather alternative." It's pleather. Plastic leather. Pleather.
I am not sure what is worse: killing animals or making more plastic. Just use cloth.
This video seems to be made for British viewers, it completely misses the American viewpoint. First, with five seats and a covered cargo area this is not a van, it is a wagon in a van shape. Second, in the U.S. no one uses vehicles of this size as campers (well, some do, is it a new trend actually). This is what minivans like in the U.S., transporing kids to and from school, sports practice and SAT prep. With this size - 2 meters wide and 4.7 meters long - it should have three rows. Two back rows better be removable to fit 4x8 ft sheets of plywood or sheetrock. As for the performance, American minivans get from 0 to 60 mph in less than 7 seconds. So, for a minivan this vehicle has not enough seats, not enough flexibility and not enough performance. For a wagon it has a bunch of A-pillars in the front for no good reason except for the van look.
You're using kW both for charging power and battery capacity here, which is confusing and incorrect. If I didn't know any better, I'd think that a 50 kW charger could fill the 170 kW(h) battery to more than 50 kWh. I fnd that the distinction between the two units makes it much easier to grasp the concept of how fast an EV charges too :)
Every vehicle is a camper if you drink enough or find the right young woman. Just saying..
not a fan of EV but this thing is pretty neat! i love how its buzz for ev as appose to bus
"A vegan alternative to leather." So vinyl then, ie plastic. Euphemistic marketing at it's finest strikes again! 🙄
Not interested... We dont need to change our cars or boilers, we need to change our government.
Ok old man, keep thinking that way. EVs are superior to ICE and the world will continue to adapt.
It looks like VW cheeped out on the paint quality. Every close up shows what looks like to be only one coat of clear coat on the green portion of the paint. Certainly doesn’t have any depth.☹️
I hope it's better than my '02 Eurovan. I had no end to problems with the interior pieces and transmission. I traded it in before the warranty was out for a Sprinter short wheelbase and couldn't be happier with 250,000+ miles. Electric makes no sense for me here in the United States.
Only watching this because of Henru
7:07 i would smile too, it’s a funny looking thing. Reminds me of a clown car 🚙.
Anyone else gonna remark on the fact that the interior just seem...cheap? Henry upsells the fold-up table and pocket for the rear passengers, but that just reminds me of economy seating in an airplane. I do not equate that with quality.
Im disapointed by the interior space. The E-NV200 has much more space
Should have brought back the Eurovan name for a special trim package.
I wonder how these EV's will hold up in areas where the roads are salted.
There are thousands of EVs in Norway and Sweden, which have salted roads. No issue.
EVs tend to be better sealed underneath than ICE vehicles, so probably quite well.
@@Aktenverwalter no issue? 💀🤣
@@henrik1743 😅🫣❤️😉😀🫰🥛🍺🚼😘😎💪🔥😘😙😝🤪😵🥵😇🤧💯
Only the Germans would let an Iconic car
like the VW Bus, be designed by a Paki.
A blind spots in the windshield? WTF?
What were they thinking?
Should have been thinking...
Feet forward of the front wheels,
2 piece windshield
3 adults wide,
9 Adults total,
walk thru/swivel front seats.
Next
soft top option van,
3 door cab Pick Up.
While I want to agree, literally all of your suggestions sound impossible when conforming to modern safety standards. That might be why the end result was relatively boring.
I prefer the original name for this van
I can understand that they used buzz instead beacuse a bunch of purists would have complained about it
Honestly. I think the issue with charge networks, are kind of a none issue. Especially in a couple years when almost all cars being sold new will be EV's. The absolute worst it will be is right now, and will rapidly improve year on year. Just look 5 years back compared to today, charging infrastructure has improved many times over in that short time. And will only increase in speed these new 15 years.
I'm going with nightmare
Carfection weeping into their cornflakes.
4:42 - yes, people call that "plastic"
No pricing info this time? Really?
He did imply that the car will be around £60k since he stated that the Ququq camper conversion kit cost just over £3k or "just about 5% of the ID Buzz."
@@pyrocentury Oh - of course. I heard it and forgot to do the math. 😉