This is the narrowband Pixinsight workflow and tutorial I've been searching for! I'm brand new to PI and was lost in a sea of outdated tutorials. Your workflow is the PERFECT starting point for me as I did purchase the Russel Crowman tools (BXT, STX & NXT) and found the Narrowband Normalization process but had no clue how to use it. This tutorial will be my roadmap as I start my PI journey. Thank you for posting this up to date tutorial with the latest/greatest tools and processes!
Hey Luke! Your tutorials are always relaxing to watch 🙂 It's great that you are sharing your techniques and why I love this hobby as everyone is willing to share for the benefit of the community! Thanks and Clear Skies mate!
Thanks for the walkthrough, Luke! I just started imaging with a mono setup after many years of OSC imaging, and your video really helped guide me through the new-to-me workflow in PI. I have to say, processing mono images may be more involved, but it's definitely fun as well!
New suscriber here, men the way you explain you take your time to even a person like myself who not speak english perfect can understand is just incredible I'm about to download my free trial so wish me luck I gonna keep a eye on your videos for sure
Great image and tutorial Luke. Totally agree on GHS it's a very precise way of stretching I've found. I like the fact fact you can stretch some elements of the image without affecting the rest. Beautiful heart nebula mate 👍
Thanks great image and tutorial and totally free in contrast to tutorials from some other “experts”. Really enjoy your TH-cam channel and will by you a few beers for all your efforts..Just need to find a place to meet with decent beer (I am German although living in Geneva) . Greetings from Geneva Switzerland.
That's very kind of you Klaus! :-D thank you so much for giving your support, I just noticed you joined my Patreon page 👍 I'm very happy to hear that you've been enjoying my channel!
Thank you Luke! I’ve been hoping you’d produce an up to date SHO tutorial using all the new tools available…it was worth the wait! Couple of questions: do you think extracting the CIE L component (and doing some unsharpen, etc.) would be superior to using Ha as the luminance in the LRGB combination? Also, I see that many use the SPCC in the linear phase. Since we manipulate colors, is SPCC superfluous? Again, much thanks for this wonderful tutorial.
Thank you ever so much for that tip Joe!! You raise some interesting questions there, re: the CIE L rather than Ha, I don't honestly know! You'd be best off trying both ways side-by-side during your next processing run to accurately answer that one 👍 As to SPCC - I've not found it to be a needed step for images of this nature, as you say, we're going to massively alter the colours anyway! Hope you're keeping well!!
Great video. May I ask what settings you use in tab 0 in APP to stack your mono data? I have mine at supported and adaptive airy disk with everything else unchecked.
Awesome image Luke, saw this on FB. Thanks again for sharing the data, this is going to keep me occupied this afternoon. I'll likely upload a processing timelapse video again if that's ok?
Currently watching this while capturing data for a mosaic project and every time I see PI the more I want it... no problem spending money of software, I just don't have any right now XD
I hear that mate, haha!! - it costs so much money to get PixInsight and all the tools, but it's really worth it I reckon! :-D buy once, cry once as I always say!
Amazing results! One of the better tutorials on a simple and very effective workflow. Definitely going to be trying this as my current workflow was from another tutorial and was very complicated. Are you able to provide the data for the coloured masks you have created? Thanks mate!
Thank you ever so much my friend! :-) I wish you luck and great enjoyment if you do give this a go! I'm afraid I have no data available for the masks used, - the toolset containing the mask tools themselves however should be provided in the download for you :-) Clear skies!
@@lukomatico No problem Luke you spend a lot of your time making these great video's it's only common courtesy to spend a few seconds liking and commenting
heythere, great tutorial again. 👌👌👌 I am preparing to upgrade from my notebook to be able to use Pi. It is already a pain, although I am "just" using DSS/ASTAP, Ps, siril, GraXpert...do you have any recomendation for the needed hardware? I read them at the Pi website, but I am still unsure how to configure my astro pc. Thanks a lot and cs
Hi Luke Apologies this comment is not related to this particular video. Thanks for all your brilliant tutorials. May I ask a question about Stacking and Calibration? Do you have any tutorials posted on the initial stacking process of LRGB and HSO images. I have just purchased Pixinsight recenently and it is a very steep leanrning curve - but a fantastic bit of software! I have tried to use the stacking processs within it but - getting stuck!! Many thanks Keith Dutton
Hey Keith! - I have an older video on WBPP but it's a little out of date now really, - honestly I don't do my stacking in pixinsight these days though, I use APP instead for that. Sorry I couldn't be more help with this one, my friend!
I got using my StellaMira 90mm f/6 and ASI533mm 80x1 mins of Ha 80x1 mins of SII 80x1 mins of OIII 40x1 mins of L On the Rosette Nebula and I'm giving it a shot
Hey Ana! Great question - honestly sometimes I don't notice much/any benefit, but other times it can really help it seems, not sure about the reasoning behind it, but that's what I've noticed! :-) Hope that helps!
Thankyou for the data luke while we enjoy the beautiful uk weather lol. Gives me another set to learn on. Is the redcat 51 and 533 combo undersampling. i ask as i use the edf60 and 533 and undersample with that. Does that only take effect at a high zoom or crop. Again thankyou and keep up the amazing work
Hey David! Hope you've been well mate :-D The beautiful UK weather has certainly been fun lately hey 😅 Re: undersampling, it is indeed a bit undersampled - that said, and as you suggest, it's only ever noticeable when zoomed right in :-) Hope that helps!
Luke, not sure if you know this but using "L" in LRGB is not meant for linear data, adding "L" i.e. "lightness" uses the LAB color space and must be used on non linear data. Pixinsight strongly says on their website forums to not do this. If you plan on using HA for lightness then just do an RGB combination, stretch, then when you run narrowband normalization process and use the lightness control to Ha because by then the image is nonlinear and lightness can now be changed 😊
Hey Bill! I didn't know that mate no, hah! Thank you for the tip man 👍👍 - I probably do a lot of things that pixinsight advises against, but my shots generally turn out alright so I'm not too worried haha :-D Clear skies dude
I am so mad... I have not done any imaging for months because of weather or telescope problems , and I am not really a proficient pixiinsight user even though I have done some nice work. But I forgot a lot since I have not imaged in some time, so I went to use pix and I have no icons saved for the workflow. I did a reformat some time ago so they are gone. I did a backup of my workflow icons on a external drive but I have no idea where that drive is , How can a drive disappear ? Anyway now I may have to start the learning curve AGAIN !!!!! Prob going to go over a lot of your videos to get a work flow...... Wish you would offer live tutorials with you , would be worth the price , well as long as the price is good. I like the way you do things , you and Shawn Nellson.... Anyway keep the vids coming
Hey Steve! :-) Ah mate having your icons go AWOL is not ideal hey! - Hopefully the ones in this data share on the vid might be useful though to get you started again? I'm really glad to hear you enjoy my work bud, and to get a mention in the same breath as Shawn is awesome too :-D Hope you're well! Clear skies
This is the narrowband Pixinsight workflow and tutorial I've been searching for! I'm brand new to PI and was lost in a sea of outdated tutorials. Your workflow is the PERFECT starting point for me as I did purchase the Russel Crowman tools (BXT, STX & NXT) and found the Narrowband Normalization process but had no clue how to use it. This tutorial will be my roadmap as I start my PI journey. Thank you for posting this up to date tutorial with the latest/greatest tools and processes!
So glad to read that Mark!! Thank you mate and good luck 🙏
Don't worry about wasting our time. The intricacies that add an extra few minutes to the video are possibly the most educational for us.
That's lovely to hear mate, thank you!! 👍👍 I'll try to bear that in mind!
Hey Luke! Your tutorials are always relaxing to watch 🙂 It's great that you are sharing your techniques and why I love this hobby as everyone is willing to share for the benefit of the community! Thanks and Clear Skies mate!
My pleasure Dave! - Thanks ever so much for your kind words mate, cheers!! :-D
Thanks for the walkthrough, Luke! I just started imaging with a mono setup after many years of OSC imaging, and your video really helped guide me through the new-to-me workflow in PI. I have to say, processing mono images may be more involved, but it's definitely fun as well!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks so much for watching mate 👍
Thanks, Luke for the great video. I always enjoy your processing tutorials as it help me refine my processing skills.
Great to hear! Thanks so much mate!
You have such great detail in your images. so amazing and inspirational. Keep it up and thanks for sharing Luke
That's really kind of you to say, thank you so much for watching, my friend! 👍👍
New suscriber here, men the way you explain you take your time to even a person like myself who not speak english perfect can understand is just incredible I'm about to download my free trial so wish me luck I gonna keep a eye on your videos for sure
Aw mate that's really kind of you to say! :-D Thank you so much for your support, clear skies to you!
Great image and tutorial Luke. Totally agree on GHS it's a very precise way of stretching I've found. I like the fact fact you can stretch some elements of the image without affecting the rest. Beautiful heart nebula mate 👍
Thanks so much Paul mate!! So glad to hear you've taken to GHS too, it's a heck of a tool hey! :-D
Hope you've been getting some clear skies!
Very good video Luke ! Always interesting. I just hope we get some decent clear skies soon as for me it’s 3 weeks no imaging !
I hope so too mate! - it's not been a great year for astro!
thank you for these wallthrus. im always looking to improve!
Happy to help! Thanks for watching :-)
Thanks great image and tutorial and totally free in contrast to tutorials from some other “experts”. Really enjoy your TH-cam channel and will by you a few beers for all your efforts..Just need to find a place to meet with decent beer (I am German although living in Geneva) . Greetings from Geneva Switzerland.
That's very kind of you Klaus! :-D thank you so much for giving your support, I just noticed you joined my Patreon page 👍
I'm very happy to hear that you've been enjoying my channel!
Thank you Luke! I’ve been hoping you’d produce an up to date SHO tutorial using all the new tools available…it was worth the wait! Couple of questions: do you think extracting the CIE L component (and doing some unsharpen, etc.) would be superior to using Ha as the luminance in the LRGB combination? Also, I see that many use the SPCC in the linear phase. Since we manipulate colors, is SPCC superfluous? Again, much thanks for this wonderful tutorial.
Thank you ever so much for that tip Joe!!
You raise some interesting questions there, re: the CIE L rather than Ha, I don't honestly know! You'd be best off trying both ways side-by-side during your next processing run to accurately answer that one 👍
As to SPCC - I've not found it to be a needed step for images of this nature, as you say, we're going to massively alter the colours anyway!
Hope you're keeping well!!
Great video. May I ask what settings you use in tab 0 in APP to stack your mono data? I have mine at supported and adaptive airy disk with everything else unchecked.
Awesome image Luke, saw this on FB. Thanks again for sharing the data, this is going to keep me occupied this afternoon. I'll likely upload a processing timelapse video again if that's ok?
Absolutely no problem mate!! Thanks so much for taking the time to watch and comment by the way Pete, I appreciate it 🙏
Currently watching this while capturing data for a mosaic project and every time I see PI the more I want it... no problem spending money of software, I just don't have any right now XD
I hear that mate, haha!! - it costs so much money to get PixInsight and all the tools, but it's really worth it I reckon! :-D buy once, cry once as I always say!
Just great my friend - thanks for sharing your knowlegde :)
My pleasure! Thank you ever so much for watching my friend :-)
where did you get the script for the magenta star correction?
Amazing results! One of the better tutorials on a simple and very effective workflow. Definitely going to be trying this as my current workflow was from another tutorial and was very complicated. Are you able to provide the data for the coloured masks you have created? Thanks mate!
Thank you ever so much my friend! :-) I wish you luck and great enjoyment if you do give this a go!
I'm afraid I have no data available for the masks used, - the toolset containing the mask tools themselves however should be provided in the download for you :-)
Clear skies!
Like, nice job, great data, good steps, thanks for sharing
Thank you as always Antonio my friend!! :-)
I can't even dynamic crop, the options are greyed out
Great tutorial again Luke thanks for sharing your data
No problem at all mate!! Thanks so much for always taking the time to comment, it's appreciated! :-)
@@lukomatico No problem Luke you spend a lot of your time making these great video's it's only common courtesy to spend a few seconds liking and commenting
heythere, great tutorial again. 👌👌👌
I am preparing to upgrade from my notebook to be able to use Pi. It is already a pain, although I am "just" using DSS/ASTAP, Ps, siril, GraXpert...do you have any recomendation for the needed hardware? I read them at the Pi website, but I am still unsure how to configure my astro pc. Thanks a lot and cs
Please tell me how to add it(Generalized Hyperbolic stretch ) to the program. It is not in my pixinsight..
th-cam.com/video/WXY5kOFaxaI/w-d-xo.html that video I made shows you how in just a few minutes 👍
Dude, thank you so so much for this tutorial.
My pleasure mate! Thank you for watching 👍👍
How do you stack narrow band data in WBPP? Do I need to change settings?
It should just work fine without any settings changes I believe mate! Good luck 👍
Hi Luke
Apologies this comment is not related to this particular video.
Thanks for all your brilliant tutorials. May I ask a question about Stacking and Calibration?
Do you have any tutorials posted on the initial stacking process of LRGB and HSO images.
I have just purchased Pixinsight recenently and it is a very steep leanrning curve - but a fantastic bit of software!
I have tried to use the stacking processs within it but - getting stuck!!
Many thanks
Keith Dutton
Hey Keith! - I have an older video on WBPP but it's a little out of date now really, - honestly I don't do my stacking in pixinsight these days though, I use APP instead for that.
Sorry I couldn't be more help with this one, my friend!
I got using my StellaMira 90mm f/6 and ASI533mm
80x1 mins of Ha
80x1 mins of SII
80x1 mins of OIII
40x1 mins of L
On the Rosette Nebula and I'm giving it a shot
Could you do a Siril workflow if the more advanced processing tools?
It's something I'd eventually like to do mate yeah!
Curious to know what size monitor you use for these videos. Thanks.
Hey there! :-) I use a 43" neo-qled screen 👍
@@lukomatico thanks! Wondered how you could fit so many toolbar items...43" will do it!
What software do you use for stacking?
I use astro pixel processor my friend 👍
How important is linear fit? I never used it for narrow band imaging. Thanks
Hey Ana! Great question - honestly sometimes I don't notice much/any benefit, but other times it can really help it seems, not sure about the reasoning behind it, but that's what I've noticed! :-)
Hope that helps!
@@lukomatico Probably, it is target dependent. Thanks
Thankyou for the data luke while we enjoy the beautiful uk weather lol. Gives me another set to learn on. Is the redcat 51 and 533 combo undersampling. i ask as i use the edf60 and 533 and undersample with that. Does that only take effect at a high zoom or crop. Again thankyou and keep up the amazing work
Hey David! Hope you've been well mate :-D
The beautiful UK weather has certainly been fun lately hey 😅
Re: undersampling, it is indeed a bit undersampled - that said, and as you suggest, it's only ever noticeable when zoomed right in :-)
Hope that helps!
Why don't you remove the stars first?
Luke, not sure if you know this but using "L" in LRGB is not meant for linear data, adding "L" i.e. "lightness" uses the LAB color space and must be used on non linear data. Pixinsight strongly says on their website forums to not do this. If you plan on using HA for lightness then just do an RGB combination, stretch, then when you run narrowband normalization process and use the lightness control to Ha because by then the image is nonlinear and lightness can now be changed 😊
Hey Bill! I didn't know that mate no, hah! Thank you for the tip man 👍👍 - I probably do a lot of things that pixinsight advises against, but my shots generally turn out alright so I'm not too worried haha :-D
Clear skies dude
If I have RGB data that I captured for stars, sometimes I use the RGB luminance for my narrowband luminance for OSC data. Works pretty well!
I am so mad... I have not done any imaging for months because of weather or telescope problems , and I am not really a proficient pixiinsight user even though I have done some nice work. But I forgot a lot since I have not imaged in some time, so I went to use pix and I have no icons saved for the workflow. I did a reformat some time ago so they are gone. I did a backup of my workflow icons on a external drive but I have no idea where that drive is , How can a drive disappear ? Anyway now I may have to start the learning curve AGAIN !!!!! Prob going to go over a lot of your videos to get a work flow...... Wish you would offer live tutorials with you , would be worth the price , well as long as the price is good. I like the way you do things , you and Shawn Nellson.... Anyway keep the vids coming
Hey Steve! :-) Ah mate having your icons go AWOL is not ideal hey! - Hopefully the ones in this data share on the vid might be useful though to get you started again?
I'm really glad to hear you enjoy my work bud, and to get a mention in the same breath as Shawn is awesome too :-D
Hope you're well!
Clear skies
The before image should be completely black with about 5 stars showing...
Wouldn't make for a very good thumbnail though, would it? 😅
thanks luko
My pleasure! :-) thank you for watching my friend 👍
Thanks for the data buddy... just a side note... the audio and video are ever so slightly out of sync...
I missed this message mate sorry, seems like it's been deleted or something?